If I go below 90 degrees on deadlift will my shit snap up??
>>37027613
wtf are you talking about. You mean dropping your ass more? Go watch professionals deadlift.
>>37027613
No. If you lower your hips too much, they will just shoot up before the bar leaves the ground, once the weight gets heavier.
all these videos and shit and I still don't exactly understand the deadlift, it's fucking frustrating
i need a simple way to ensure proper form
would this be a good way to go about it?
>legs straight, bend over, grab bar
>lower hips and unlock knees until shins touch bar
>>37027694
Best simple explanation I've come across.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3izzg0RCTg
>>37027694
>>37027694
yes, it's a good way, i also squat atg while grabbing the bar and then extend like eddie hall
>>37027694
the problem is that everyone has different proportions. so the 5'5 manlet is going to setup than the 5'10 average person is going to setup differently than the 6'3 lanklet
>>37027728
cool. i need to get the bar closer to my shin. i was relying on looking at the bar from top down and putting my foot under it from that perspective.
>>37027694
there must be proper form somewhere on the net - watching other people won't help because it isn't all visual - it's about which muscles are activated over which other muscles. For example, if you lift using your back muscles it raises risk of injury - I was advised to "load" the hamstrings and glutes and drive up using those muscles, instead of lifting up with the back. Once I did that my back trouble I'd been having (twinges after deadliting) went away.
I think there's more to the deadlift than that, as well - like engaging your lats at the right time.
>>37027735
this doesn't have the information about which muscles to contract when - I think that sets people up to think it's easier than it is. I understand you have helpful intentions but I think it raises risk of injury to simplify the deadlift like that, it's disappointing to see Rippetoe would do that.
>>37027863
>like engaging your lats at the right time
>tfw no idea when to even begin activating lats
>>37027907
No offense, but most of you are too weak to worry about more advanced coaching ques like when to engage your lats. Make sure your positioning is right, and be natural about it. Not trying to shit on anybody, but /fit/ likes getting way too far into the weeds way too early.
See >>37027728
>>37027863
>disappointing to see Rippetoe would do that
it's an excerpt from the book with a whole huge chapter on nothing but deadlifting.
If you take a quick look at the book, you'll see Rip has written plenty on how to avoid injury and the mechanics of the lift.
>if you lift using your back muscles it raises risk of injury
You can't lift using your back muscles. None of them perform hip extension.
>this doesn't have the information about which muscles to contract when
Because it's meant to be a quick visual guide with only the most important cues.
If you squeeze your chest up and contract your lower back, and pull the bar against your legs, you'll be doing most of what you need to avoid injury.
>>37027907
Your lats pull the bar closer to your legs. So just think about pulling the bar closer to your legs, and bam your lats will be activated.
If you want some extra queues you can try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm7ZbgjZklE
>>37027694
Load the hamstrings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEy_czb3RKA
>>37027972
>You can't lift using your back muscles. None of them perform hip extension.
It may not be a literal description but figuratively "lifting with the back" looks to me like a real problem - I've come across with myself and a few other people on here, so I think it's something to watch out for. Maybe most people don't have the problem, I don't know - at the moment it seems quite common to me so I'm trying to help people avoid it.
I think quick visual guides are probably unhelpful - and it wouldn't have taken much to add "load the glutes and hamstrings" and it seems like it would lower injury risk a lot (at least that's how the situation looks to me).
>>37027938
It seems like someone under-trained needs to learn the specifics more than the athletic and well-trained because they're weaker and hence more prone to imbalances and injuries.
I must be as weak as almost anyone here and although the lats advice may be too specific learning how to emphasise my glutes and hamstrings over my lower back would have reduced my injury risk a lot the first few times I lifted before I learned about it.
>>37028271
I guess I need to stop thinking about generally active people taking up lifting and more from the context of complete couch potatoes picking it up.
