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The cheating frauds general for the discussion of steroid stuff generally

Old thread >>37003619

>being sick sucks edition
>feeling feels edition
>if you are actually sick see a doctor edition
>Google first edition
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>tfw over 20 Celsius
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>>37015161
>if you are actually sick see a camel* edition

Ftfy
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What preworkouts if any do you guys take?
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>>37015212
Cialis, dbol, sdrol, tren base are all dope.

For Otc product I like anything with a lot of hydromax 65% glycerol concentrate, and nitrates. Vasodilation is king.
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>>37015212
Coffee and a banana
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>>37015212
1g L-tyrosine w/ 100mg 5htp. I'm not using orals or stims atm.

Brown spotted bananas are the best preworkout. Next would be beans with white rice.
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>>37015212
ur mom's pussy
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Anyone who has done Keto, do you count calories while on or just eat until full?
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>>37015372
Count cals for fat loss.
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>>37015398
Notice any drastic health differences since going vegan jj?
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>>37015212

200mg caffeine, a ripe banana, and a pb+j bagel or sandwich

usually lift 5-6 hours after dosing 200mg moda

obv plus shit like orals, test or tren base, etc if that's what I'm grooving with

>>37015606

a marked uptick in vaginitis
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>>37015659
How's the lab going?
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>>37015694
Lel
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>>37015372
Depends. Counting is always the better choice if you aren't fatasfatass like some people

Out-eating tdee on keto isn't that hard
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Is dbol only cycle retarded? I've got mad shoulder problems. A couple dudes i know who seemingly had the same problems told me that when they went on a dbol only cycle it healed it up pretty quick
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>>37015779
si senor
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>>37015779
Please be bait
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So, the plan is to go to alphabay for test E, where should I get my PCT and AI for my first cycle guyz. I'm bros with the uni lab tech guy, so syringes and needles aren't an issue
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>>37015789
All my research indicates it is indeed retarded. Just wanted another confirmation

This pain is driving me beyond madness. I cant even sleep anymore due to fuckin shouldet pain. I guess i got excited when they suggested a fix
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>>37015825
could try tb500 or some of those peptides but you have inject them and I take it you're scared of needles.
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>>37015838
Not scared of needles. Just clueless i suppose. Side effects scare me more than needles but if i could fix up all these aches and pains id pretty much do anything at this point
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>>37015853
tb500 is supposedly great for healing joints and deca helps with joints too.
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>>37015880
Ill look more into it. Thanks man
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>>37015892
you'd want to run a test base with the deca though
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>>37015853
TB500, ghrp2-6, bpc-157, MK677 and GH if you can afford it. Everything else, especially AAS, won't help you.
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JFC REEEEEEEEEEEEE
Why are all women stupid cunts that play games
Or at least the attractive ones
They all want to act interested one minute and then not the next, and back and fucking forth. I'm 22 and talking to 18-20 year olds and they're all fucking retarded fuck

What do I have to do to find a mentally mature girl around my age shit /blog

One more pin till I end my cycle, best ways to retain gains when reverting back to natty?
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>>37015659
Hhhhhnnnnng
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>>37015853
Run a test base with low Anavar and Mod-GRF/Ipam, maybe some deca. Do you know what's causing the pain?
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>>37015968
Don't worry about it. Get money. Get pussy. Good ones will make themselves available to you if you're a decent person. Or not. It's a gamble.

Focus on you being well rounded, not a partner rounding you out.
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on test 500mg and tren600mg plus dmz 40mg a day.

literally horniest fucking faggot alive.
masturbate all day. running train on tinder women, literally no preference, just want to cum in something. please never let this feeling leave
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>>37016099
>Focus on you being well rounded, not a partner rounding you out.
TRUTH
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>>37015694

for some reason it's a lot creepier when randos remember shit like that as opposed to trips

and I wrote that shit in like 45mins while my eyeballs were vibrating from enough caffeine to wake the dead

>>37015968

stop giving a fuck, the day you do that is the day you learn the secret to eternal happiness

like sure I've got the collective sex drive of a sybaritic roman orgy and my standards are pretty much binary, but I'm not stressing shit if a chick's not picking up what I'm putting down

you wanna play shitty little games? get the fuck out of my house, I'm going to go beat off and fall asleep

the fucking heel-turn some of these chicks make is enough to make you worry about whiplash when you just completely refuse to dance to their tune like five seconds ago you were giving me the eyes, biting your lip, and all kinds of shit but when I go for the kill you pump the brakes? fine, cool, your choice, now get the fuck out

what, something wrong with that? oh, NOW you want to get fucked?

fucking women

>>37016099

triangle man speaks the gospel truth
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>>37016116
>tfw no Tinder girls

I'm using a mediocre picture and highly inflammatory profile though.
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Tfw quads getting so big that you're almost ripping your underwear it's so tight.
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>be on roids
>1/2/3 easy
>deadlift won't fucking move and has been stuck at 385 for fucking 6 months
WHAT THE FUCK
Literally even ran tren and everything skyrocketed but it
I did recomping a bit though rather than bulking, but fuck that's pathetic plenty of Nattys pull it easy
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>>37015212
Sdrol, bioperine, taurine and cialis.

>>37015315
5-HTP gives me the craziest dreams.

>>37016168
Be more consistent.
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>>37016157
poor guy.

literally message a girl something along the lines of this :
>hey btw if you need someone to eat you out tonight, send me a message "my #".
>sends me a text and tells me to come to her house when she gets back from having a drink
>eat the goods and fucking plow the fields
>get home 2.5 hrs and look for my next victim
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>>37016168
Change your training, not your drugs. My deadlift went way up when I brought up my hamstrings and learned to engage them properly.
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I say these things about romance while in the midst of a personal crisis of fully rejecting passionate, intimate connections if I do porn.

Really missing my ex, but she would stand in the way of me bettering myself or making money. No real difference.
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>>37016190
I'm plenty fucking consistent breh
Literally all of my others lifts are well above 1/2/3/4 but deads, fucking something about them, they just don't fucking move. This shits driving me fuckin insane. I'm doing C6W, I tried running a cycle of deficit deads, lowering the weight and restarting, and it won't fucking budge
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>>37015968
>talking to 18-20 year olds
Found your problem

One of these days you youngcunts will listen to me when I say that young chicks are fucking worthless hosebeasts with no value sexually or romantically.
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>>37016116

Kekd
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>>37016255
lol but women take care of me. my current thing brings me food and clothes
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>>37016200
I assume everyone who pulls off shit like this is either an 8/10 panty-dropper or tried it 20+ times before it worked.
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>>37016168
>>37016250

have you actually tried, y'know... lifting?

but seriously how hard is it to figure out if you're failing off the floor, above the knee, grip, etc?

like basic bitch lifting knowledge here
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>>37016265
get with a 23+ year old
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>>37016255
Well I'm 22, I'm not gonna talk to old used up hags, even if I wanted to they wouldn't want to most likely due to women typically being into guys their age or older
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>>37016269
well im 6'4'' 235lbs and i like to say im handsome. i get rejected sometimes by the stuck up mother mary bitches. works 1/3 times
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How do you guys deal with roid acne. I feel like I look like a fucking junky, acne scars on my arms from cystic acne on a deca dbol cycle 6 months ago..

It has killed my confidence, feel like I have no shot with any women
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>>37016289
Look, either fuck older women or stop looking for meaningful ANYTHING with young chicks. Its just not gonna happen. They're fucking annoying, stupid, self centered and terrible in bed on top of all that.

But maybe you're terrible too and don't know any better... in which case continue on your misadventures.
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>>37016303
shower twice a day, dont put your back on your computer chair, benzoyl peroxide 10%, wash your sheets once a week, dont put bare skin on workout equipment and lower your stress.
all these things work 100%
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>>37016327
I shower twice a day already, I used peroxide 10%. It's mostly scars at this point
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>>37016353
ouch, welp cant help with scars bro
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>>37016303
I get bad backne on PCT and while cruising.

>wake up in the AM and wipe shoulders with salicylic acid acne pads
>goto work
>rub hand sanitizer on shoulders in middle of the day
>go home
>goto gym
>immediately take a shower and scrub back/chest with 10% benzyl peroxide wash
>put on CLEAN shirt
>sleep in CLEAN shirt
>repeat

Works so far... still have some but they aren't huge and disgusting anymore.
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>>37016293
I would definitely get more points if I were 6'0 or so with my build. I'm 5'8 185lbs and thick.
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Will test-e come out on a drug test? Honestly don't know how many different drug tests there are. Can someone help with this?
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>>37016327
>tfw stress acne
It has to be that because I've cut everything else out

>>37016168
>stuck at 385 for fucking 6 months
did you forget to eat or train
thats real bad man
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>>37016318
Nah. You just attract shitty women. There are plenty of quality people in all age ranges of every demographic. Your anecdotes lead me to believe you're bitter about one or several unfortunate experiences regarding fickle young women. I was the same at 18/19/20.
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>>37015659
Ayy pb&j bagel pwo masterrace.
I thought I was the only one.
You alright brick
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>>37016303
Keep hormones balance and if necessary use low dose accutane to get rid of acne.
Then vitamin c serum and retin-a to get rid of scars.
Also the other day Coach was talking about a client of his having success with using TB-500 for scars.

>>37016353
>>37016372
10% benzyl peroxide has no benefit over 2.5%, you're needlessly destroying your skins moisture barrier by using such a high strength.
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>>37016372
>and while cruising

uh, what

>>37016385

if you're worried about it for athletics or a few other things, you're fucked

if it's some bullshit 5-panel piss test then unless you're mixing your tren with some h you won't get popped for shit

>>37016408

pb&j akbar

with a liter of 1% milk (aka full shaker bottle)

hear that you fucks, you want that retard strength you gotta eat a pb&j bagel and some milk an hour before you lift

holy shit I had to give my economy size jug of jif and all my amish-made blackberry preserves to a friend to hold onto, otherwise I'd wake up in the middle of the night and eat like 5k cals from psmf and dnp-induced craziness

can't wait for that tren so I can stop really caring about carbs making me fat
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I've really been interested in hopping on the juice and have been trying to soak in all the knowledge out there beforehand but I have a predicament. I will be heading to Korea soon for a year and Germany for 2-3 after. Now I will not be messing with it while in Korea but will be going through another natty bulk/cut cycle and want to hop on the train once I get settled in Germany. My predicament is I have only found info regarding US transactions and receiving of the goods. Any Europe bros that can point me in the right direction of some good info on acquiring goods over there?
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>>37016429

I'm about to start a lil accutane
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>>37016491

Sst, there are European sources
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>>37016386
Trained a lot, like I said, didn't eat a whole lot, recomped, built up a bit of muscle, but cut down a lot of fat as well, but obviously I'm doing something right if all of my other lifts skyrocketed Like at least 50 lbs past those over the last few months, but fuckin deads are a mystery to me. It might actually have gone up a little higher than 385, I actually haven't tested for 1rm, but according to a calc at the most it's only 10-15 lbs more at the most. How is it even possible for my squat to go up ~70 lbs but my dead suck so much dick?
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>>37016168
Mfw im natty and deadlifting nearly 600 lbs

Prob kill urself desu
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>>37016497
Keep out of sun, don't use anything harsh on skin, moisturize and up your fish oil.
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>>37016389
Aye bimbo it's been a minute

Post cb? :0

Are you le shredded yet
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Any good books out there that can help you plan a cycle, pct and such? Hypertrophy is main goal, but strength is a bonus as well
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>>37015606
I haven't had as many issues with steroids. No hair loss/acne. Also thanks accutane dayyum.

Vegans have better blood work confirmed my Dr. Rhonda Patrick.

When I go high carb, low fat with 95% whole foods I never lose slin sensitivity.

Tons of energy in keto. Loads of flax tempeh, greens, avocados, nuts, chia seeds, and olive oil. I'm not cutting hard.

>>37016385
No, not a chance.
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>>37016491

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I hope you're getting sent to casey, enjoy the unrestrained giant veiny throbbing green dick

>>37016534

so are you fat or actually nearing 3x bw

>>37016556
>Vegans have better blood work confirmed my Dr. Rhonda Patrick.

[citation needed]
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>>37016511
But is there any info out there regarding shipping? I'm assuming USPS is out of the question
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>>37016519
when I hit 5pl8 deds my squat was a 185 triple lmao

so theres not a whole lot of correlation if you do em certain ways

That being said, if your actually training DL, thats odd

try delaoding and just classic progressive advancement and your next blast
never fails

>>37016556
>trusting danica patricks mom
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>>37016480
>and while cruising
>uh, what

Yep... dunno why. I never do while blasting but now I'm covered. Its been about 3 months since I dropped dose to 200mg/wk, still backne.
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>>37016594
I'm 230

Being on fucking tren and not being able to deadlift 4 plates is the most pathetic shit I've ever heard. No wonder people say max out your natty limit first. That dude just has no clue what he's doing
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>>37016594
I can't. She's not even vegan herself, so she's pretty unbiased imo. An endocrinologist I know in Miami asked her for me when she was around.

You could ask her about vegans though.

https://www.foundmyfitness.com/about-dr-rhonda-patrick
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>>37016537

No sun? I've been tanning cause it makes the scars less noticable
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if i take 250mg test e every week starting at age 25, will i have the same cholesterol issues, heart issues, and risk of stroke as someone who takes larger amounts of steroids?

if i do cardio everyday and eat clean, will these risks decrease?
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>>37016540
6'4
215

W/ pump
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>>37016631
Well then fucking tell me what I'm doing wrong then bitch lol

I deloaded, I ate enough to at least see more progress than that, I ran a cycle of deficit deads on C6W, which is say is a pretty solid program, and have had no problem upping my other lifts. I've definitely got room for improvement but I've got the fundamentals at least, and you telling me to kill myself isn't fucking helping dipshit
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>>37016689
>who takes larger amounts of dick?
Depends on what you define as larger and who this person is.

You're talking about a TRT dose of test. It will be barely noticeable for the most part both in your blood work and gains.

>Does doing the good things make better
Yes they do, taking steroids doesn't change you biologically. Running and eating healthy is usually always good
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>>37016695
Without pump, fasted.

Lighting at fuckbuddy's place is dope.
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Is it true that even after a cycle and pct a roided will maintain a competitive edge over nasties? Seems like roiding is a no brainer, even if you only run one cycle.
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>>37016540
tfw sadguy still usin the name you recommended him.
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>>37016695
>tfw I'm 6'4" 215lbs but look DYEL as fuck

one day.... one day I may.

I just wanna take test and orals forever though, so I doubt I'll ever get full bimbo status.
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>>37016705
I literally had to do SS to get to 4 plate DL

Your form is probably terrible and you admitted your diet sucks. Should have stayed natty and figured all this shit out before wasting them steroid novice gains
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>>37016716
anything larger than a trt dose of test

i thought that no matter how much steroids you use or what kind, they will raise your cholesterol and put you at risk for heart diease
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>>37016740
kek I remember that
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>>37016748
You'll get there, trust me. If a weak lanklet like me can you will too.

>tfw a studio asked me to cut down on the gear and I said no and they said okay but don't get acne
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>>37016601
>But is there any info out there regarding shipping? I'm assuming USPS is out of the question

what the fuck, are you that retarded

mail from local service delivers to base post office, post office sends shit to unit mail clerk, get shit from mail clerk

>>37016613
>when I hit 5pl8 deds my squat was a 185 triple lmao

no wonder you fucked your knee you spaz

>>37016631

shit's mind-blowing

like I hit 445 after maybe 6 months of training seriously, took a 3 year break, on cruise came back and pulled 495 within a month or so, 9 months after starting lifting again and I'm in the low 6s

if I'd started out lean and blasted, I'd probably be knocking on 7's door easily by now

>>37016664

so we're not actually talking about legitimate reviewed and verified studies done in any kind of controlled environment, just a hey I think I've noticed this pattern in some data by casually examining it without doing any kind of real analysis!

>>37016705

how about you answer my fucking questions >>37016279 instead of having a hissy fit, you dumb shit?

>>37016729

I really need to find a place with baller downlighting to give my pale ass some kind of contrast

>>37016732

semi-permanent upregulation of myonuclei and androgen receptors, plus upregulation of ar sensitivity
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>>37016759
There's a strong genetic component, you won't know how you react until you actually hop on. You might be able to cruise on 300mg, or you might have to run 150mg.
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>>37016759
Of course it will. However it's subject to diminishing returns.

Doing 500mg of test from natty will increase cholesterol by X percent.

Doing 1g of test from natty will increases cholesterol by (X * 1.6) percent.

So doubling the amount of test doesn't necessarily double the amount of cholesterol damage
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>>37016807
>>37016815
ok i get it. genetics will determine the level at which this uptick will occur.

is 250mg of test e equal to approximately 800ng of natty test?
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>>37016838
Approximately yes.
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>>37016553
? Hello? It's me?
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>>37016790
Yeah her downlighting made me look great after 2 hours of depleting as fuck tren sex.
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>>37016790
Yep. Like I said. It's what Rhonda Patrick said. So stop trying to act like a hard cunt about it.

And you know I'm vegan for ethical reasons. Not primarily for increasing my health/lifespan.

Here's his message.

>I did get to speak to Rhonda about all the various types of diets and she did mention that vegans and vegetarians usually have the best blood profiles in terms of natty health markers to natty hormone levels , but she did say that when PEDS are in the mix, it does change many vegan markers and this causes similar results to those of the meat/dairy eaters.
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>>37016838
It put me at ~1400ng/dl, if you want actual TRT then take 200mg or less.
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>>37016859
thank you
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>>37016757
Uhh, when did I admit my diet sucks? Oh that's right, recomping to look better means my diet sucks, I forgot everyone. obviously it's not ideal for gaining strength, but it's been more than enough for the other 3 lifts, and I look a hell of a lot better after
>>37016790
I generally fail off the floor, hence me doing a cycle of deficit deads, as I said, you dumb shit
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>>37016790
lol yeah

yeah but squatting hurt my calve at the time
growing old sucks im breaking apart

going to start real light and rehab my lifts up next bulk

>>37016838
100mg got me to 800ng/dl
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>>37016881
Damn bro. Your roid rage is showing.
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>>37016881
It's okay my diet and strength suck too. We can be friends.
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What program do you all run on a cycle?
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>>37016881
Try Dl'ing 3x a week
Worked for me
Heavy 1rm day 1
Light snatch grip dl day 3
Speed dl 8x3 day 5, intermediate weight
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>>37016867

dude you know, YOU KNOW that espousing some anecdotal bullshit like it's established fact is going to get me to slam your dick in the door 10 times out of 10

>>37016881

then do more than deficits you fucking potato

don't try to get all brody with me when you can't figure it out and just throw your hands up in the air instead of doing basic shit like profile views of all your pull sessions and analyzing it, maybe doing like 5 seconds of research on the most common reasons for people to fail below the knee and trying some shit out

>>37016900
>growing old sucks im breaking apart

don't even

just go slow and steady and focus on mobility

>>37016922

don't you start encouraging this lazy shit
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>>37016966
Idk I'm a lazy shit and I'm doing okay. 800 solo 100 top to 2000 solo 2400 top just because I'm #manpretty. He can be that too just from being lazy!

Seriously, if I can do something literally anyone can because I'm a tard.
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>>37016966
Yeah that's going to be my focus, not even planning on trying to get my old Max's back, just some nice rehab
That and a million curls and Flys
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>>37016949
chest/back
legs
arms/shoulders
chest/back
legs
arms/shoulders
rest

so many sets of each... so many.
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>>37017065
I've found high everything is really key for growth. High volume, 75-100 total reps of a movement. High intensity, 75-85% max weight. High frequency, hit the movement 3-4x a week minimum.

This has really brought out my delts.
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>>37017113
>This has really brought out my delts.
Also the steroids.
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>>37017075
Any specific routine? I wanna get big but also stronk, preferably something that also includes the compounds
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>>37017113
I've been doing 8x12 on my target areas
But there were alot of lifts that couldn't handle weight before, but after the tb500 can, so I'm going to destroy my chest+shoulders

Plus I'm moving soon so I'll have to give up the homegym, I am excited for cables again
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>>37017140
Nah. I'm an incredibly poor responder. Like really bad. Lifting, strength sports, BB probably really shouldn't be my gig but I'm passionate and well read enough to eek out enough of my potential to be "okay".
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Is testosterone cypionate still vegan?
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>>37017216
Synthesized from wild yam probably
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>>37017233
are they at least cage free yams?
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>>37017240
They're wild!
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>>37017248
yams gone wild would make a great porno
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guys ever since i finished my blast and started my cruise (~140mg test E a week), my cum doesnt have any thrust when it leaves my dick. it just kind of oozes out. wtf is up.

also jacking off/sex in general feels like more of an obligation now and I don't really care for it, but I'll still occasionally get sexual thoughts.

should i just get bloods and check my estrogen?
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>>37017263
I'll pitch it to my studio.
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>>37017155
If you're on gear volume is your friend... and frequency.

brosplits really do work well if they're frequent (ABCABCx). Also PHAT, HST etc but even those are limited in a sense.

Right now my leg day is 10x10 squats, 10x10 leg extension, 10x10 leg curls 10x10 calf raise. I throw DLs in on my second leg day too. Chest day is fucking hundreds and hundreds of reps of bench/incline/fly/dips etc.

My first cycle I did Shortcut to Size and it was ok but I could have done more. Most weeks I was only in the gym 4x a week and only doing like 4 lifts per major body part and 2-3 for lesser ones.
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>>37017269
congrats on your estrogen, friend
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>>37016992

I'm a lazy shit with certain things, but after a certain point I snap and go full retard, like with this diet

>>37017113

ew

max I'll ever do is like 60 and that's for the last assistance exercise after I'm pretty much burned out

>>37017155
>>37017276

lol

that shit might be great if your sole focus is size, but strength is going to be a fucking joke on that kind of routine

JUST ASK BIMBO

#plsnobully
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>>37017308
I did hit 315x5 on incline bench the other day.
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>>37017270
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>>37017308
>that shit might be great if your sole focus is size, but strength is going to be a fucking joke on that kind of routine
Like I said, hypertrophy is my main goal. I don't even care about strength other than hitting 1/2/3/4.
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>>37015205
M8 its got up to 42 here this summer
You canuckistans and your "warm" weather
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>>37015208
Is your name jim?
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>>37015212
Wealthy Organs kill it pwo
Surprisingly good
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>>37015813
Get everything including gear clearnet
Darknet is bullshit and mostly underdosed
There's no accountability for shitty gear on darknet
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Where should your bf% be before running your first cycle? What should one expect to pay for a 12 wk cycle+pct? Why do I still browse 4chab?
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why cant mods not monitor this thread as an american its hard to be apart of /fraud/
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>tfw shower didnt take
I hate humidity

>>37017727
the lower the better estro
200 max
because youre an autist like us
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is rich piana the ideal physique for you guys?
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>>37017786
Nee Chan that rare shiny type hoe that thicc and a slob but pretty af
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>>37017825
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>>37017825
"No"
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this greek yogurt is super thick
theres no liquid
I eat ALOT of greek yogurt and I've never run into this
this is so THICC
cant even mix in banans

>>37017843
thicc and pretty is all that matters
plus a nee chan?

thats marriage material

>>37017825
this is my goal
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If I want to use TB-500 to try to help facial acne scaring do I have to inject it into my face for it to be effective?
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Why are there no minorities in /fraud/?
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>>37017892
The prostate.
>>37017889
Her cooking skills matter too tho
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>>37017786
Thanks d00d so probably a little over 150 for a cycle and pct? I'm probably at 15% rn but I'm cutting hard
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>>37017867

lowest bf I'd want, obv actual size is pretty much whatever the fuck I can end up at, same general proportions cept I'm like 99% sure my core is thick as fuck despite having a ~32in waist so that'll fuck some shit up

>>37017889

I need to start buying gallon jugs of greek yogurt once I go back to actually eating
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>>37017906
when you leave humanity behind race doesnt matter

>>37017915
shes cooked up a mean erection over here

>>37017949
depends how good you are at sourcing cheap

15s ok I've been much fatter lol, just need mroe ai

>>37017958
I eat a tub a day
but this is thick like cheese
Im worried about why it would be so thick
does it have more calories now because it wasnt seperated or something?
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>>37017958
Hey I don't think either of us are that far off from this.
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>>37017825
This is goals
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Any reason I shouldnt run a huge cycle as a 6 month lifter? I don't really mind being a dirty rotten cheater if it means getting years of results in a few months...
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Have test suspension on hand 350mg/ml..700mg a week is a lot of test..I wanted 500 but my local source started carrying a new lab. Can I shoot 3/4ml twice a week and get roughly 500?
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Nah don't do it.

You'll end selling drugs, g4p, in prison, in the army, or in Australia. Stay away from gear.
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>>37018015
I think you just need more abs and rounder pecs
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SERIOUSLY WHY IS THIS GREEK YOGURT SO THICK

I dont trust this at all

I'm going to have 2 shakes instead

>tfw autism

>>37018084
you dont know what youre doing, so youll hurt yourself, and get subpar results

steroids are the next step in a dedicated lifestyle

>>37018094
no you have to inject 1 whole vial everytime
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hey guise im 145 5'8 19 y.o and around 17%bf. what do you think of running an epistane only cycle? just to cut some body fat and make some muscle
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>>37018104
>in Australia
Already am
Checkm8 roiders
Selling drugs and g4p don't sound too bad though
Actually enjoyable
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>>37018107
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>>37018107
>tfw pinning .5 vial e3d
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>>37018104
I dunno man, those things all sounds pretty great

Except Australia

>>37018107
My diets clean as fuck, and my lifts are all "intermediate."
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>>37018118
The worlds your oyster, pupper. Suck it.
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Damn I threw away the greek yogurt lid already cause I always eat it all
What if this is fatty
I only ran for an hour today I cant handle that

>>37018126
I'll literally kill you
how can you call this shit
its perfection

>>37018127
>tfw cruise is 250ml
hard to find syringes big enough

>>37018132
I mean you can do what you want
I just dont think its enough time

but you'll love it if you do
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>>37018132
I hopped on after 6 months, best decisive of my life.
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>>37018183
I was srs jerbae
2.5g per week of hombrewed gudness
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>>37018184
>I hopped on after 6 months, best decisive of my life.
What do you do now, blast n cruise?
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>>37017984

prob more cals BECAUSE it's separated, higher mass + same volume = greater density

>>37018015

just bf% for me really, maybe lean a bit toward more incline for a lil sternoclavicular head stimulation, plus my bicep insertions are fucked so I've got like a 3-finger gap when flexed

like I said, same proportions but just add another 20-30lbs of mass and you turn into a fucking ogre

starting to get convinced that at least some of my love handle bullshit is actually just massively overdeveloped obliques, almost afraid to see what my abs look like now

>>37018078

only problem with an undercut is the maintenance, after having a fresh haircut every 2-3 weeks being a job requirement for 6 years I'm loathe to commit to something like that again

>>37018132

>intermediate lifts

LOL

>>37018183

>running

fucking ew
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>>37018225
>>intermediate lifts
>LOL
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>>37018211
Yeah b&c for two years now. Tried pretty much everything except mast mtren and msten. I pretty just stick with test and drol now, and if I could tell my pre-gear self one thing it'd be to not waste time with other compounds.
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>>37018194
of test?

dayum

jelly, mirin

>>37018225
I dunno cheese man
but I put it away
I'm not ruining my cut because the greek yogurt was thick

I'd rather swim but runnings free
plus if I dont get enough movement in my calve gets nasty
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>>37018225
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>>37018225
>3 finger gap when flexed
Iktfb :( at least we get a sick peak right?
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>>37015246
>>37016190
I have access to cialis. What benefits can they bestow on me as far preworkout goes?
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>tfw sick tanks got shipped today

but still not the ones I really want

FUCK YOU OAFNATION OPEN YOUR GODDAMN STORE ALREADY

>>37018242

think I'm into elite for everything except squats 'cause hip is borked

>>37018300

well considering I don't even give a shit about bicep peaks, uhhh...
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>>37018348
Greater vasodilation. Shovel blood into those muscles, duder.
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>>37018348
Higher quality erections for your between set masturbation.
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>soap commercial about the female wage gap
why do I watch tv

when its not stupid shit like that its ads saying nuts and milk are FULL of protein

smdh

>>37018361
>not caring about bicep peaks
thats literally all that matters in life
you've got messed up life goals dude
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>>37018381
We should actually #chill.
>>37018374
Lmao
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>>37018381
Skim milk is bretty gud proteins
300 cals 32g protein
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>>37018404
>#chill
That's what the xans for broseph
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>>37018404
ok but I'm not helping you practice for porn

>>37018421
>barely a 1:10 ratio
>good
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>>37018470
Its good for something that isn't meat and doesn't taste like ass. Greek yoghurt and cottage cheese are filth.
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>>37018470
Okay but sugar is anabolic. It's basically steroids.
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>>37018381

look man I just wanna lift really heavy shit while not looking like a walking talking meatball

>>37018421
>>37018488

ew fuck you and your milk water

>greek yogurt
>filth
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>>37018488
greek yogurt has twice the protein
and tastes good
its just an acquired taste, I literally eat 1 raw tub a day

cottage cheese is good too

>he'll stick needles in his ass but not eat food until he likes it

>>37018492
>drinking milk for the sugar
thats what donuts are for, dummy

>>37018509
nah I understand
All I want is huge arms, solid abs, and a 3pl8 c&j

my joints arent good enough for that last one yet lol
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>>37018509
Half a scoop of salted caramel whey and it's like a milkshake. I drink 3 of those fuckers a day.
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>>37018537
Doughnuts are life duder.
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>>37018537
Will u c&j me bb?
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>>37018546
the best part of bulking is donuts
I eat so many donuts on a bulk lol

>>37018548
ok
I'm sure youre twink enough for me too ;)
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How do I know its time to take ai? My nips got kinda sensitive, they are not sore or puffy, just kinda sensitive. I've only got 2 more week our of 10 of shooting 250mg orf test-e every 4 days.
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>>37018570
I eat doughnuts on a cut. They. Are. Life.

>chilling watching magic mike xxl
I wish I knew how to move my body.
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>>37018589
jelly, mirin
im too small to have the cals to eat anything on a cut
my tdee is basically pmsf

>donuts are actually why shes my gf
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>>37018635
>donuts are actually why shes my gf
A glorious insight into Jerry's mind
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>>37018582
My nips don't get itchy or sensitive just achey. Start at 6.25 asin e3d
Or Yolo like me and do 1.25 letro ed
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>>37018653
be careful trying to analyze my genius
might be too much for your synapses to handle

>>37018670
>1.25 letro ed
no wonder your nips dont get sensitive lol
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>>37018704
You're almost as fucking degenerate as my fuckbuddy but she has a "no weeb shit in bed rule" so really you're worse.

Still wall to wall waifus in a 400 sq ft studio is intense.
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>>37018714
Weeb shit isn't as weeby with chicks
Just like nerdy shit isn't creepy with chads
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>>37018725
Idk ex gave me a lot of shit for my love of Eva.

>jokes on her she cosplayed Rei
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>>37017191
U my hero bimbo
New zyzz but less gay

Oh wait are you really doin g4p? Nvm, a little more gay
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>>37018635

>2 am
>think about some shitty 7-11 eclaires
>halfway out the door
>remember you're doing psmf
>internal struggle trying to rationalize it
>tfw
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Went out to celebrate autist client losing vcard. Fella was more successful than me tonight lol. I wasted my time working on a girl who was with her bf. Not being able to cuck wasn't so bad. The fact her bf was a dyel manlet is what killed me.

Internet memes lied.
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>>37018714
sounds like youre pretty jelly of my free wheeling alpha lifestyle

It may be too much for some but I've left humanity behind

>>37018739
she has good taste
I'd say great, but eva's SHIT
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>>37018768
God damn nigga. This is why I lift. To land a middle eastern bitch that'll bellydance on my dick.
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>>37018770
Jerry I'm pretty plastered so take this with a grain of salt but I believe in you man. You're gonna fuck a 3D girl one day. Maybe she won't be as good as your pillow but it will be a luke warm hole u can nut in. Either way one day u may.
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Where can I cop this sweatshirt
does anybody know

>>37018766
iktfb lol

Last Time I did pmsf I saved a box of donuts
I went to bite into one the first day I was done
shit was hard as a rock lmao

>>37018768
how'd he do it
I bet he did lots of curls
did he do lots of curls
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>>37018780
It's all fun and games until you can't steal a manlets gf.
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>>37018748
Cept zyzz had a sick tan and God tier insertions
Bimbos more broey and real tho
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>>37018819
Bimbos mom was a geometry major.
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>>37018807
If she's with and loyal to a Manlet bf she has low self esteem anyway. Probably low self esteem regardless. Who really cares duder? Go make $$$.
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>>37018797
t-thanks
you too

>tfw a girl is aggressively hitting on me
>tfw shes fat
nty lmao
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>>37018829
Woof dropped this
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>>37018829
Fuckin right bud. I'm doing what I love and I'm not tied down. I can literally drop everything and move to south east Asia tomorrow if I wanted to. Regardless you win some you lose some with hoes. Sometimes you have a legendary night other times you go home to shit post on fraud. It's part of the game.

>>37018842
Bimbo my man how's it going? You still got 99 problems with that nutcase?
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anyone else get caught in the American testosterone exit scam? I ordered their first cycle bundle the week it happened and need a new source
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>>37018869
>nutcase
Nah, she's just a confused hurt person that needs her time to grow. She'll figure it out, but it's not my problem.

Everything's a okay. Not sure if I'm imploding it just taking an opportunity as it presents itself with the g4p. Literally everyone I talk to about it as a business thinks it's a solid deal money wise, and reputation rise don't see it as a deal breaker. Even my more conservative or logical buds. Obviously done close friends worry how it'll affect me mentally or emotionally, but life ruining choice wise? Not too much concern.
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>>37018893
>conservative
>logical
LOL
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Startin some winny test and tren in a few days here..

Anyone had experience with winny and tren? I figured itd be good to pair a high anabolic with something as androgenic as tren
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>>37018893
>>37018869
HAHAHAHAHA men are so putrid. You're saying she's a nutcase because her boyfriend isn't 6' tall or am I missing something? Holy shit, men truly are insecure crazies. Going to save this shit for lulz later. Ah, /fit/, you're the best.
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>>37018829
>>37018869
samefagging. The irony is that you are obsessing over a woman and insecure to say "fuck, this girl is LOYAL to her bf.. what a hoe. How dare she not choose me." Thanks for the laughs kid.
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>>37018906
What? You're confusing two different conversations. We're meme'ing about manlets and then he asked about my ex.
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>>37018906
You're an idiot who cannot read
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>>37018881
No. I ask for recommendations in the weekly ta or off topic. I don't fuck with random labs.

It's a cynical view but I feel almost everyone who gets scammed makes poor decisions. There's occasionally sources they sell fire that blindside customers but for the most part quality is a good way to determine how dedicated a source is.

>>37018893
Damn what happened to her that fucked her up so bad?

Good to hear man if you feel good about the decision that's all that really matters at the end of the day.

>>37018906
Lol you seem lost

>>37018913
Even funnier

>>37018914
Manlets take everything way too seriously. They can't tell what's a meme and what isn't. I guess you could say....

IT GOES OVER THEIR HEAD
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>>37018942
>IT GOES OVER THEIR HEAD
kek'd out loud
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>>37018930
>>37018950
Stop samefagging bro you know you're coach. Laughing at you own joke? That's an all time low fella.
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>>37018942
>what fucked her up
Dude there's a laundry list. Personally with me? Nothing I've done. She'll swear up and down she's the fucked up one, that I deserve better and she doesn't understand how to love right now; and I'll agree with that. It's a massive bummer she's special to me and I miss the most intense physical connection I've ever had, but I can't be with someone that can't match my effort.

I actually think Manlet jokes are pretty damaging.

As an aside, regular /fit/ is super intimidated by nipple piercings.
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>>37018958
I'm not though
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>>37018819
I appreciate this. These are nice things to say to someone. Thanks anons.
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I was thinking about cycling TREN but am SUPER TERRIFIED of Gyno. Any before and afters to ease my conscious? Or tips to prevent it?
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>>37018962
>She'll swear up and down she's the fucked up one, that I deserve better
That's always rough especially if you care about them.

>I actually think Manlet jokes are pretty damaging
It's banter. My manlet bros irl roll with it. One even adopted the memes and it got him a nickname. He doesn't let any of it keep him down (srsly didn't intend for a pun there). He's dope AF. Easily 100x more alpha than almost everyone on this board.

>As an aside, regular /fit/ is super intimidated by nipple piercings.
It marks your decent into degeneracy. Everyone should look like a good Christian. Nipple rings are used for Satan worship.

>>37018970
Likely story couch

>>37018994
Mast
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>>37019014
Masteron? Why?
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>>37018962
>As an aside, regular /fit/ is super intimidated by nipple piercings
I laughed when I read the post saying you look like someone that does gay porn.
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>>37019025
Me too. At least I can sell the role.
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>>37019019
Read up on it.
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>>37019041
Everything I read says it is for cutting
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>>37019050
Read what gh15 has to say about mast
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>>37016789
How did/do you prevent acne
I only get it on my delts
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>>37019025
Link? Or thread name?
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>>37019066
I don't get acne. Maybe a zit or two every few weeks but actual boils or cystic shit? Never.
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>>37019058
Not that guy but ive read all the GH15 stuff that's available outside of his site, there's nothing on mast.
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>>37019088
That guy and same
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>>37019088
Taken from online bible which is public

i want you to introduce masterona if you have problem with high estrogen after 50 days! you should not have any problem but if you do introduce masterona at 50mg every 2 days!

Smh read more
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Do Jerry Wards shoulders slope because small side delts?
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>>37019142
Jerrys just a weird dude
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>>37018900
Anyone?
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>>37019137
Oh I thought you meant masteron had its own write up like tren, I've seen that bit yeah. I don't think the guy was talking about estro related gyno though as he mentioned tren, probably worried about prolactin induced (yeah, controversial)
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>>37019172
Nothing in your stack is terribly anabolic so it's confusing. Test tren winny are a great combo, I've tried it for long periods of time.
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>>37019172
Don't use winny for a bulk, don't use winny for long periods of time, don't use winny at all except for 3-4 weeks at the end of a cut.
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>>37019173
Prolactin induced gyno either isn't a thing or can not occur without the accompaniment of high e2.
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>>37019187
>>37019189
Kek
>I used it for long periods of time
>don't use it for long periods of time
Take bimbos word over mine, I just don't like it because knees and ankles
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On day 5 of test E. Shouldn't my libido be up? But For the past month or so I've been feeling weaker erections and it seems harder for me to get them all the way up. But this was 6 months after a Deca/Dbol cycle.

Any ideas boys? Idk if it's just stress and in my head or what. Should I start HCG? I'm about to also hop on Tren..
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>>37019202
I had eq and peps in there too, combating a lot of negatives.
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>>37019214
Why have you been shitting up these threads acting like an expert when you're less than a week into first cycle?
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>>37019229
Nvm can't into reading comprehension. Probably estro related.
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>>37019229

Not my first cycle bruv. Think I'm just overthinking it and stressing myself. Idk.
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>>37019234

Yeah the problem is I don't have any other estro sides... Idk what's going on. I am slightly stressed and possibly just worrying myself into this
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>>37019187
>Stanozolol carries an Anabolic Rating of 320 and anAndrogenicRating of 20
Thanks for your input though, I appreciate it.
>>37019189
Yeah thats the plan
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>>37019237
You are brush, it's fucking 5 days into test e, if you know anything you know you aren't going to feel shit yet.
And lmao pls, don't worry about libido probs if you have tren, except for the ones where you spend too much time jerking off and get boners in public
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>>37019250
Take a small dose of adex or letro and see if symptoms improve
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>>37019272
>>37019268
I didnt notice it was test E, yeah wtf your boner problems are unrelated. You wouldnt need an AI for at least a few weeks.
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>>37019253
I doubt that's an accurate ratio, and if it is that applies to the prostates of rats and has little correlation to impact in the human body.

Winny is typically used as s way to provide a grainy water free look. Decent strength gains with little to no mass added. Okay for strength sports with weight classes.
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