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who /finals/ here?

>taking fuckton of stem courses
>as a result skipped more classes than ever before
>realizing I know much less than I should at this point
>all the work and exams are piling on
>can't lift regularly
>can't eat properly
>vyvance fucks with both

at least summer will be 3 months of nothing but gains r-right bros?
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>>36969327
> falling for the uni meme
> not doing a trade
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>>36969327
I am a fkn 35yr oldfag. No school brehs
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>>36969327
im with you bro, last summer i benched 2pl8 for the first time... now i only rep 70kg..

prioritize. Exams are more important than your gains. good exams = good grade= hopefully good job = more money to buy chicken = more gains
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children please go away
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>>36969327

Taking engineering now. Since I go to a shitty university (although it's D1) my professors are dog shit. I took an online class and I kid you not, the professor didn't post one fucking lecture the whole semester. Literally self-taught myself this entire course with the textbook.

I wish all of university was online though. People could actually get a full time job. Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a decent paying job when all your classes are staggered smack dab in the middle of the work day from 9am-3pm.
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>>36969350
Oh look his parents paid for his college
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>>36969333
>falling for the working in industry until your body gives out like a fucking pleb meme

Went to uni, got a top tier job with computers. Have time to lift, money, and I won't have black lung at 35 like most welders.
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check how much content you have left and calculate how much hours you need to study it, divide it in 5-6 days a week from today to 4-5 days before the exam and make a schedule.
When you have a strict routine, things just happen, you don't even need to push yourself, you set your mind to ''this is what I do''
Come on there's no point on making it if you have to spend all summer studying bro.
You can do this.
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>>36969348
>more money to buy chicken
kek'd
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>>36969371
this

I did blue collar for almost 3 years in my early 20's. You know what a lot of blue collar workers tells me? "I always knew I'd be able to make decent money I just never knew I'd have to work twice as hard to do it". Most of these blue collar workers that are bragging about their 80-100k are working around 60+ hours a week.

Meanwhile I have a brother in finance and he makes 110k for only 30 hours a week.
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>going to school
>not owning your own business
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>double major in bio and physics
>two years in and i hate bio
>going to drop it
>19 credits this semester all stem, gains have gone down the toilet for the most part
>mfw 12 credits next semester
>but also mfw i look back and realize i took literally 30 unnecessary credits of time consuming bio and chem courses

at least orgo was cool
at least ill be happy for the back half of college
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>>36969415
yeah but it's not like everyone can get to that salary studying finance
it's a very competitive sector and you have to stand out a lot
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>>36969447
Maybe in finance, but comp sci is 70-80k straight out of school even with a B/C average gpa. So many openings it's almost impossible to not get a job.
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>>36969480

Not with poo-in-loo and ching-lees taking all the jobs. And especially not with idiots like you talking about it.
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>>36969348
holy shit lmao
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>>36969486
Nah, if you knew jack shit you would know that foreigners have a hard fucking time getting jobs in America. Because companies have to pay fees to "sponsor" their green card to work here. So, the jobs go to hard working Americans.
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>>36969327
me
I even feel bad for skipping an hour of study this morning to get a haircut
anyway my exams are pretty far away
the first one is the 27th of may, the second, 7th of June, and the 3rd and 4th, 15th and 16th
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>>36969486
completely wrong

even semi competent CS majors are fucking set
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>>36969480
yo I'm
>>36969447
don't confuse me with
>>36969486
this fag
I agree and I happen to study economics, not sure what the fuck am I gonna do when I finish, if I don't get a very cool master or something I'll spend the rest of my life eating shit
I'm not sure if I'm using the right word, by master I mean that shit you do for 2 years after you graduate from university to specialize in your sector
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>>36969480

Why would you take comp sci. at uni? It is a complete waste of money and time. Sauce: programmer making 75K self taught in multiple languages and programs.

>70-80k out of school.

How much crack are you smoking? Don't fall for the uni meme.
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Studying my ass off and getting diagnosed and prescribed adhd medicine has made school not too bad as a Ch E. but next semester balancing fraternity life and school gonna be rough. Did not get to lift past 3 days and my diets been shit. But i believe brahs.
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Yeah, i had bio finals 3 weeks ago, math 1 week ago, chemistry next monday and then physics 3 weeks from now. I don't know how my parents talked me into doing into medicine. Gone from a 6 day PPL to once or twice a week full body workout, and just before summer aswell.
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>>36969626
What's your stats? I've been running a bro split with legs chest back x arms/shoulders x. I really need to cut to look juicy at 6'4 230 but damn I love food and beer.
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>Went through math degree with 3.8 GPA
>Had plenty of time to lift, work, and have a gf

I never really could sympathize with those who struggled to find time.
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>>36969656
>implying you weren't naturally gifted at math and rarely studied because it all came naturally to you and you could figure your way through exams because it was all based on a skillset you were gifted in

same goes for compsci majors
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>>36969671
I never said that I wasn't. I just said that I can't sympathize/empathize, obviously because I seem to understand math more than the average person.
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Ch E, always loved Chem but now I realize I love calculus and am damn good at it. Also discovers comp sci, loved that and picked up a minor. The question is what is the best programming language to be fluent in and what spoken language Spanish or German?
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>>36969676
Different colleges have more rigorous math programs. My brother at Columbia University will be able to get his applied math degree from Linfield College only after going to Columbia for 2 years.
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>>36969696
>>36969696
Yeah, I didn't go to MIT or Caltech tier, but I don't believe I went to super-shitty university for math. I'm not super autistically gifted at it, just more than the average person. And after meeting many people who are much more successful, and busier than me who also found time to be quite successful at lifting, I find it hard to believe the average doesn't have time in the day.

On a side note, I always wanted to see a log of activities for the day/week of a person who complains they have no time for X, because I have a feeling they'd end up with plenty of time.
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>>36969596
>comp sci is a programming degree
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People who complain about time normally are people who procrastinate at least that's what I've seen. Plus I don't go to a prestigious university so if you aren't an engineer/pharmacy or accounting you really have no excuse.
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>>36969764
I know, I'm just curious what language is the most common in the industrial field.
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>>36969626
lol nigga you aint even started med school yet
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>>36969754
Depends on your course load too. Some people might be taking 3 or 4 more classes than you.
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>>36969841
I always had a full course load, which was 3-4 math courses a semester. The only people who were talking more courses than me were engineers, and professional programs. I get your point that everyone's circumstances are different, but the majority of people are average and actually do have plenty of time on their hands.
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>>36969327
>not putting lifting on hold until after finals week
come on son
if you dont get that grade to get that job to get that how are you going to get them gains?
how you gonna pay for the protein
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>finishing my bachelors in physiology
>entering pharmacy school
>getting pretty bored of tedious health science
>never followed my dreams of being a programmer, was scared of not making money and being a coding monkey for some project i didn't give a shit about
>regrets
>debt
>30 years old
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>>36969327
I've started going to the gym in the evening so that I can study in the morning instead.
But holy fuck the gym in the evening is a shit fest compared to the mornings. Its fucking packed with curl bros everywhere and then the people who do squat do some lmao 3pl8 with 1/8 ROM
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>>36969348
cryin
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biological engineer major in my senior year checking in

this year has been ok. stay on top of things and by now all the important concepts have "clicked" so I don't spend a lot of time in the struggle phase of learning anymore.

however I was probably average 2 all nighters a week my junior year. on campus at 8am to 5pm 5 days a week. two 3 hour labs with 10+ page technical reports for each session. difficult assignments necessitating at the very least 4+ hours to digest and complete. on and on and on.

ended up getting hit with depression purely at the chemical / hormonal level just because I was perpetually sleep deprived, on top of eating only once a day (usually).

bench dropped from 355 to 275 on a good day, squat dropped from 410 to literally grinding 315 for a single.

anyway, by the end of summer my bench was up to 385 and my squat hit 445. there's a light at the end of the tunnel brahs. no matter how terrible it might seem. keep pushing.

>my face now when I'm faced with a few measly weeks of long nights and deadlines after an entire fucking year in the hell that was my junior year
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Lol I graduated last year and am currently a meet full time professional bodybuilder

Yeah I'll start job hunting..
Next Monday I promise
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>>36969676
>I just said that I can't sympathize/empathize
Those words are not synonymous. You can probably sympathize but can't empathize.
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>>36969596
> learning java == degree with useful long term skills to keep you relevant in an ever changing market.

Implying

Have fun being a code monkey, I'll be your boss in under a year because I know underlying principles.
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>>36969880
Becoming a code monkey is a real fear, but money never should have been. Pharma at least pays well, just keep at it. Put money away or invest it and retire early enough to enjoy your life. You only get one.
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>>36969367
Yours didn't? haha
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>>36969783
Depends on what you're working on. Top ones are java, C#, obj C, the bundle of internet programming tools. There are many more you could work with, but those are the big ones.
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>>36970273
Did I dun goofed for graduating in networking?
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>>36970712
hf working in the IT department brah
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>>36969626
Complaining about a test a week at most
Try having them all at the same week
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pic related is awesome but I keep forgetting to eat, sleep, wash and drink
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>>36971288
modafinil is fucking disgusting why would you take that shit... it doesnt even help you concentrate just keeps you awake.
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neet here

only thing i have is lifting

should i just kill myself?
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>>36969327
finished my last law school final two days ago. got three weeks off before i start bar prep. feels good man.
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>>36971458
Helps me concentrate greatly and it way better than becoming an amphetamine junkie
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>>36969338
26 and on dat der no school train 3 years strong. When are you cucks gonna stop taking summer off so you can graduate earlier and start making some fucking money!?
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>>36969596
>tfw computer engineering
>tfw 3.1 GPA, graduating in 3 weeks and already have a job starting @ 77k
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>>36969371
It?
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>>36969433
>19 credits
hahahaha wtf are u doing familia. You had to get special permission to do that right? At my uni (UW Madison) you literally can't take more than 18 credits a semester unless you get special permission
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>>36969626
Why are you in math if you are going into medicine? You a retard or something?
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>>36969596
I had a friend who went into comp sci for a couple years, having already gained tons of knowledge and experience in programming. He just made connections with a few profs and project teams, got incredibly shitty grades, got offered a job working for the school and dropped out. Not sure exactly how much he makes, but he put a down payment on a reasonably nice house the next year.
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Im a sophomore in dietetics but im gonna switch for comp sci. Am i doing it right if i want a comfortable life?
Im good at maths so no problem there
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>>36972441
Mobile app dev
IT isn't my cup of tea
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>tfw I stopped lifting before starting uni
>tfw slowly see my body getting skinnier and lighter
>tfw it's paying off because I've only been getting straight A's
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>>36972555
Math is generally unrelated to comp sci, although they complement well. Yes, you're doing it right for easy mode life.
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>>36970712
Not if you like networking. But the job market will be mostly IT.
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>>36972537
> not knowing that your undergrad literally doesn't matter when going into medicine.

My Gf's gp was a CS major, then he went to get his MD
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>>36972960
>My Gf
>Gf
>then he went to get his MD
>he
>his
>Gf
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Currently working on my bachelor thesis in nursing. Haven't lifted properly in two weeks. I got sick last week too and didn't even get out of bed for three days. Now we're almost done just need to tidy up and make sure references are on point. Will probably hand it in a day before the deadline. Fuck I was so close squatting two plates for reps now I can't even squat 90kgs for five.

Worst part is I don't really wanna work as a nurse. I might try and get into law and become a lawyer after I've completed my two years contract with the hospital.
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>>36972972
> when your reading comprehension doesn't exist.

Try again. "When my Gf's gp" aka my girlfriend's general practitioner, aka the doctor who my gf goes to.
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>>36972972
general practitioner, you dolt
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>>36973003
> 4 years working to be a nurse
> doesn't want to be a nurse

Nigger what are you doing?!
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college isn't hard. anyone who thinks so cannot manage their time correctly and shouldn't be in college. it's amazing what you can get done in a couple hours with maximum focus.

they made it so easy with curving grades and just general retardation that it's unreal.
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>>36973029

I may specialize in anesthesia or intensive care, which is each their own masters degree in top. But I'm not sure I want to work shifts the rest of my life. It's not really compatible with lifting and a nice and comfortable white collar day job seems much easier.

Also I'd work with a lot more guys which would be better.
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>>36973093
This.

It's just a shame I live in a country where admission to the good and prospective professions and careers (well every course actually but who the fuck goes to college for a non-profession major?) are based on your high school GPA. And I barely graduated HS.
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>>36972537
Where im from you have to do 1 year of the 4 basic science subjects to continue, to pretty much sift out people who don't really belong there.
It's pretty much calc 2, statistics, bio, biochem, organic chem, "normal" chem, and then 2 physic courses. This is done at a 200% speed (compared to if you took the courses one by one). We take the courses with the people who are doing the separate science bachelors.

You need 80% to pass (you can only pass and fail the courses and failing one out of 4 exams is enough to not pass) and roughly 50% fail at least one and can't continue with medschool. So it's pretty cutthroat.
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>>36969415
how do I get someone to even employ me for 30 hours a week?
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>>36973093
>tfw community college drop out
>tfw fell for the "college isn't hard" meme
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>>36972345
Hopefully you're going to a big name firm anon (e.g. Jewgle, microsuck, twatter, Yahomo, etc) because otherwise you'll get stuck in your small no name go nowhere firm. And if you work for a small firm and get a lot done, when you go for an interview with a big firm, the interviewing engineers there (who get nothing done because internal politics, shirking, etc) are put off by you and instantly start grilling you with academic trivia to find a reason to not hire you. And if you pass all their academic trivia, they'll say you don't fit their culture and pass on you.

And if get nothing done at a small firm, they fire you, which forces you to get a lot done for yourself, returning you to the previous situation when you apply for a big Corp.
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>>36973466
Typically it becomes an option when you've worked at a firm a while. You can sometimes shift your work to at home or having less hours if you prove your productivity.
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>>36973093
t. psychology major
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>>36973093
>with maximum focus.

and also activating you almonds right nigger ?

What do you think every uni students try to do ? Getting things done with " moderate focus" ?
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>>36973093
>curving grades

I haven't had a professor curve anything in any of my engineering classes. I've had classes where the class average on a test was a forty percent, and they still didn't curve it. College is only easy if you pick an easy degree like you did.
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>>36970253
thanks anon
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>>36972537
my university's premed program requires up through calc 2, myself..
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>>36973093
>maximum focus
>being able to focus on school work
>monkey
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>>36969433
bruh im at like 100 credits that don't go towards my dr
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>>36973585
the company isn't primarily tech like google/apple but its a top 10 fortune 500 company. I'll be in Austin TX as well so a lot of room to shop around my skills.
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>>36969333
>falling for the trade meme
>not being a lawyer
>not billing $350 for an hour of your time

It's like you don't want to life on Jew-God easy mode
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I fell for that uni meme too anon. Best option is too continue to lift and play some spooky pc games. Then cram hours before. Shits cash
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>>36969355
Yeah I'm just living off loans. One day I'll be rich.
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>>36974472
lol exactly what i do. i dont attend lectures or study and just cram everything 2 days before exam time
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>>36973886
Yes. An engineering student I knew kept his TV on by his desk and would watch bullshit sit coms all evening while doing homework.

>duuuuuude
>engineering is so haaaard
> had 7 hours of homework yesterday!
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>>36969327
I don't know how fuckers can skip lecture and feel no remorse whatsoever. We're fucking paying for these classes and these bitchass know-it-alls skip every lecture then still end up getting a decent grade. Fuck em.

Meanwhile I'm attending every lecture and every discussion and still struggle. Fuck internationals and fuck lower division stem courses.
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>>36974629
Lol. It's called actually doing work outside of class and not expecting teachers to spoon feed you information.
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>>36972524
I'm taking 22 in the fall. Nbd. Taking 16 this semester and I have a ton of blowoff time, plus with 10 hrs/wk
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>>36974629
i skip and make good grades.
lecture is not time efficiently spent for me, and i'm not saying i'm gifted.
including the trip to uni and home, the pacing of most lectures, and the awful questions with which my classmates waste precious time, i find myself better off studying material on my own. the internet is wonderful for autodidactic learning
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>>36974629
It really depends on the class for me. In some classes, the lecture is extremely helpful, either because the professor is really good, or the book is terrible. In those cases, I attend religiously because it's very helpful and I do much better in learning and retaining the information.

In other classes, the lecture is either terrible or just unhelpful, or maybe it's ok but the book is far better. In the former case I won't attend because spending fifty minutes learning nothing is a complete waste of time, ESPECIALLY if the professor thinks fucking proofs are sufficient teaching. In the latter case I'll skip because I can learn much more in the time of a lecture from reading the book than I would being in lecture.

Your time is precious, and if you're working then it's highly unlikely you'll have time to do everything you need to. You need to prioritize, and sometimes that means skipping lectures to better utilize your time. Of course this doesn't apply to faggot professors that make attendance a huge part of your grade and treat you like a fucking five year old that can't manage their time.
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>>36972919
Whats the difference
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>>36974775
Yeah this is how I feel as well depends on the modules/lecturers, some I find really interesting and enjoy going to
It can get pretty toxic not going into uni tho, in 2nd year I barely went to a single lecture and just smoked weed all day with flatmates cause why not. Still managed to get good grades but the rest of my flat failed the year lmao
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>>36973093
this is true assuming you're happy with a 2:1 or whatever the burger equivalent is (90% average or something by the sounds of it), but if you want a first or higher the amount of work you need to put in increases exponentially, assuming you're doing a respectable course at a good college/university. sure, it's easy if you want to graduate with a mediocre standard of degree.
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>>36973923
i picked comp sci. engineering is hard i'll give you that and comp science is easy for me, but most people seem to struggle with it. my first exam in c# i was the only one who got a passing grade (90) and even the 'best guy in computer science' got a 40 on it.

>>36973886
>Getting things done with " moderate focus" ?

it's just a lot of people fuck around and a 30 minute assignment takes them 2 hours because they check their phone after every paragraph or problem and don't even realize how much time they're fucking wasting. if you actually pour every fiber of yourself into an assignment, you can get it done in practically no time.

i was working 35 hours a week while taking 18 credits and still passed everything fine. the most i've done is 23 credits with an internship on top of that and that was cake.
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>>36974629
some people just don't learn in lectures. i can show up having had 10 hours of sleep and be fully alert, and i won't learn a fucking thing. however, i can then go home and spend a couple of hours studying and fully understand everything that was covered, and understand it to a better depth than anyone who went to the lectures. it depends on the person.
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>>36974390
It's pretty tough to get (decent) work as a lawyer without specialization or experience as a paralegal these days in North America.
I did law school after working in land title as a lands manager for four years and went directly into land title law, but most people I graduated with are stuck doing some pretty shitty work for firms even two years out of school, and they're making pretty good money, sure, but they're working fucking hard for it. Meanwhile I'm making about twice what they are, work 9-5, and make my paralegals put together land claims based on a template I spent two weeks putting together.
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>>36974994
As a mobile app dev I make mobile apps for android and iPhone. IT just goes around checking your router when your network quits working unexpectedly.
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>>36975213

Are lawyers still needed? I'm in Europe so I guess it's a different situation. I'm interested in pursuing a career in this.
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I want to be a park ranger. I'm told it's extremely competitive and now I'm depressed.
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>>36975668
i hope you are a minority
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>>36975013
yeah i can see that happening. i'm a super senior this semester. self regulation is a bit harder than staying on campus all day; you don't have much of an option to fuck around
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>>36969480
bruh im not CS but im in a computer information system program. less intensive but theres truckloads of accounting and economics. 75-80k right out of uni too.
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>>36975242
But both are part of comp sci right?
Im not sure what a computer engineer can do
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>>36978235
>CIS
>75-80k out of school
>not a bachelors
>not even a B.A.
nah bruh.
I'm a computer engineer and my best offer was 65 out of college for a Jr. level job.

I'm about to sign on for a cybersec gig at 85
You have a certificate.
Not trying to be an elitist, but whoever told you that is false.
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>>36979014
Yeah, it just depends what you do with it. CS is a blanket term. You can generally do programming, code monkeying and IT with a standard CS degree.

IT you can sometimes get into with just a two year degree or just a GED and some experience.

Mobile apps takes a CS degree plus some additional classes to be qualified.
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dyel Paramedicine student checking
just started liftin because I'll have to lift fat cunts onto stretchers and so forth
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>>36980829
Nurse here,
Lifting heavy things before I got my job was easily the best decision of my life.
It also made me hate fat people even more.
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>>36980283
Is IT like consulting jobs or is that code monkeying? Isnt coding the same as programming? I want to get into cs but i dont know what i could do with it
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>>36969327
stop being such a pussy, just do your work when it's assigned
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