ITT: post the best lessons from starting strength or papa Rippetoe that helped you progress. For me personally:
Hip drive in the OHP: got me out of my stall-deload cycle of hell, and instantly put 20 pounds on my max
Knees out/toes out in the squat: fixed my lower back pain and increased my squat depth significantly.
fives
Anything really. Got me started in lifting. I steal all his cues when training noobs. Rip = God (even if he did basically copy Starr's ideas).
>>36913775
I wouldn't say "steal" considering they were close friends and Starr even wrote stuff for Rip's website.
I feel really dumb now. I started lifting and stole rip's routine and only read a few excerpts, not the whole book. Now, a year into lifting, I'm actually starting to make real progress because I read the book. It's so much more than simple cues, he explains why everything works the way it does, and works every lift from the bottom up. Its so specific, that So long as to understand it, you really can't Fuck it up.
>>36913833
Is that right? I've read the SS wikia and haven't touched the book. Probably need to get one that.
>>36913713
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pu**y. "
Thanks Mark.
“Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general.”
“Humans are not physically normal in the absence of hard physical effort.”
“but the reality of millions of years of adaptation to a ruggedly physical existence will not just go away because desks were invented.”
“Physical strength is the most important thing in life. This is true whether we want it to be or not.”
"You guys that worry about eating clean are actually merely bodybuilders looking for justification for your obsession with abs. You cannot get big and strong on 3000 kcal/day. And you cannot eat 7000/day and eat perfectly "clean". Unless you're rich from gay 4 pay."
"Baby mammals drink milk, and you sir, are a baby mammal. "
"Girls don't like big pecs! they like money and "this"!(as he indicates with his hand mid thigh on the leg) "
"On not calling "The Press", "The Shoulder Press:"
We just call it the press, because how could you press without the shoulders? You can leg press... but that's gay."
"I recommend against a wooden squat rack, for much the same reason that I recommend against a wooden car."
"...what should my ideal body weight be for this program? Have you made a table for this, or what do you recommend?" - trainee
"Your ideal bodyweight as an ectomorph at 6' 0" will be 214.378 lbs. There. Happy? And if you lose or gain a pound, I will have you killed. It is important to be ideal.." - Rip
"If you can't train and work in a warehouse at the same time, you probably have ovarian cancer. Consult your gynecologist."
"The vast majority of women cannot get large, masculine muscles from barbell training. If it were that easy, I would have them."
"Soy milk is essentially Coffee-Mate laced with estrogen, and is best left to vegans and other socialist vegetarian types that can't bring themselves to eat the completely natural-for-humans flesh of our friends the Animals but who have no trouble with slaughtering trillions of our other friends the Plants and processing -- in gigantic factories run by multinational corporations with shareholders that eat meat themselves -- very selectively chosen components of their poor little bodies into gooey **** that humans have never had an opportunity to adapt to digesting. Why, eating such material, with its high levels of isoflavones, touted by gynecologists as tantamount to Estrogen Replacement Therapy (ERT), will make you grow boobs, and this will screw up the clean lines of this fine young man's Under Armor. I recommend against it."
He has a peculiar way of doing Barbell shrugs that that are amazing.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-0t_hCzUgvM
>>36916073
so explosive. That's amazing.
SS is a masterpiece, whether you like the routine or not, the book is wonderful. I like his grip cue for OHP
>>36916073
for a ROM guy, that's minimal ROM.
>>36916140
>I like his grip cue for OHP
paraphrase pls
>>36913713
Basically, any barbell movement I do, I do the way he teaches in SS 3rd edition. For me, it took a lot of reading and re-reading to get done some stuff right. There's a lot of information to process. Getting the form right has helped me progress much faster. The deadlift was the most helped by finally getting the setup right.
>>36916157
>barbell in power rack at proper height
>place hands open over barbell at adequate width
>point thumbs down at toes
>close grip
>get under the bar
>everything is aligned propely
>>36916073
I like those power racks he's got. They're look like a good middle ground between the way-bigger-than-they-need-to-be commercial racks and the comically narrow old York racks.
>>36916249
thx
>>36916073
he's pretty fucking weak for claiming to be such a "strength" guru
also, lots of paid Rippetoe shills in here
>>36916073
Small wonder why he had shoulder surgery
>>36916564
He's also in his fifties and completely broken down.
Was he as strong as some of his disciples like to claim? Fuck no, but he was a reasonably strong guy when he was a serious lifter.
>>36916605
But why is he broken down?
>>36916614
Didn't his elbows get fucked up in a motorcycle accident or something and that's why he can't bench?
"An adult male weighs at least 200 pounds."
he's 60+, natty, and OHPs 200+, DLs 500, and squats 315 for 10. I respect the hell out of him.
video related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNSKqInTi_8
>>36916664
yeah but he's like 5'8
>>36916680
triggered
>>36913713
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rh3MHnRI_I
this one.
>>36916564
>weak
You know he still deadlifts 227kg and squats 180+kg in his 60s, right?
>>36916946
why does he deadlift with his feet so damn close together
>>36916946
Hey, like boardshorts told Raspie, Mark Rippitoes form is awful and his advice shouldn't be taken
>>36917008
How is his form awful and why shouldn't his advice be taken?
>>36917008
nice meme
>>36917024
Hey, who do you listen to, rippletits or a mind reading amateur equipped power lifter who throws homophobic slurs out and gives literally no advice other than "your form is bad"?
>>36917017
His squat is basically a good morning
>>36917008
His taut, sinewy muscles, ripened with age are covered by a thick layer of fat, especially around the the entire circumference of his waist. His form is simply adjusted to his own efficiencies developed over decades of lifting. And rotund.
>>36917052
Nice meme
>>36917044
kek don't bully boardie
>>36917052
I just recently tried doing his bench and deadlift on the same day and it's helped out a lot. I've tried all sorts of workout plans and variations. I was actually surprised how much easier deadlift was after bench. I've kind of been following SS with my own accessories and minor tweaking and I've been seeing pretty good improvements.
>>36917058
it's been proven that a big fat belly gives you leverage on deadlift, it's leverage oriented https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EEGp-66TuI (p.s. I hate this guy George Leeman)
>>36916773
So much this
>>36915760
>And you cannot eat 7000/day and eat perfectly "clean". Unless you're rich from gay 4 pay."
oh fuck me, did he actually say that? that's hilarious.
What helped me the most in coordinating my squat and deadlift is to concentrate on keeping the weight on the line that goes through the middle of your feet and normal to the ground
Just focussing on that fixed so many of my form issues.
>>36917008
Who told the who about what now?
>>36917008
I never said this, dipshit
I like rippe
>>36913728
Gold
>>36913713
I can't squat with a narrow stance at all. Is that bad? I'm 6' 3" and have to spread my legs a little more than shoulder width
>>36913713
>Hip drive in the OHP
Is this in SS or other material? I'd like to read.
>>36920099
If it doesn't hurt it's probably okay
>>36920099
it varies from person to person. as long as you can reach proper depth and don't cause yourself any pain, it's fine.
What do I gotta do to become one of Papa Rip's test subject/boytoy?
>>36920099
A bit wider than shoulder width is the standard stance for squatting for the vast majority of people.
>>36913713
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>>36916249
Not trying to sound retarded but how do you point your thumbs down to your toes?
>>36913713
I can't seem to get the hip drive right in ohp.
Like it works fine for all of my warmups, but when I get to my working set it all falls apart. Usually results in me having trouble pushing back hips and locking out.
I find that the breathe at the top and get a stretch reflex like in SSv2 works better for me.
>>36917062
stfu and kill yourself
>>36920099
Like >>36920571 said, just outside shoulder width is the most common. Start with your heels at shoulder width, and adjust from there.
>>36920647
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnBmiBqp-AI
>>36920682
THX bud
>>36916946
>if you drop the weight youre a pussy
mark "double standard" rippefaggot
can someone explain to me why "hip drive" doing OHP is good but slight (same amount of force) in knees instead is not allowed?
it doesnt make any sense
rippetits is retarded
>>36921078
Dropping the weight at the top, as in slightly below hip height is what rippler was referring to. KYS
>>36921159
because he's teaching the press the way it was done by oly lifters back when clean&press was a competitive lift. I don't think he has ever said that using the same amount of force using the knees is bad, so you're making shit up here. anyway, if you start using the knees you're basically push pressing and I don't see how you can guarantee that you won't use more force as the weight gets heavier. with the technique rip teaches you can't really apply a ton of force.
>>36921159
Because if you bend your knees it's a push press
>>36913713
>post the best lessons from starting strength or papa Rippetoe that helped you progress
Every page in the book Practical Programming for Strength Training, by him.
>>36913713
today I tried the hip drive, pain in my spine, couldnt lift shit
no hip drive, can lift 1pl8
>>36915760
>Unless you're rich from gay 4 pay
Don't pretend that Rip knows about such degenerate things. He is pure.
>>36920099
I go with a wide stance and I'm up to 1.5x bodyweight lowbar squat without any trouble. Make sure your adducters (inner thigh) are nice and loose or you can pull a muscle.
You probably have LONG fucking legs, but for an average heighted person, the inside of your heels will be about 17 or 18" apart.
>>36921712
Did you hinge backward from the hips while squeezing your glutes forward? You have to bend yourself without losing rigidity in your spine.
>>36915760
>You cannot get big and strong on 3000 kcal/day.
Fuck, I've been trying to bulk on that
>>36920721
just squeeze your boipussy, bra
>>36922154
>n-no homo
>>36920682
I always do this before my press.
the little bit in
>>36920825
where he says to put the bar parallel to your lifeline on your hand, that basically defines my habit of gripping for when I The Press
>>36921159
It's different. Push pressing is "cheating" because the quads drive the bar up. Hip drive isn't "cheating" because the hip extensors create a forward drive, not an upward one.
The point of doing the hip drive is that is simply fixes a lot of mistakes novices make. It fixes bar path, prevents people with no experience from hitting themselves in the chin with the bar, it tightens up your glutes, legs and core (a very common and very detrimental mistake people often make), as they're contracting for the hip thrust, it creates an arch so that your chest is in a better position to help drive the bar off at the start of it (when strict pressing, this arch is created by flexing the spine - with the hip thrust, your spine doesn't need to be as flexed as you're arching at the hips).
These are the main effects of it.
>>36921712
You're supposed to use your hips, not your spine kek
Or maybe you just went too far with your hips, try not extending them so much.
>>36920546
Train at his gym, drink a lot of milk, don't cry about bodyfat and squat a fuckton
This deserves a bump
>>36922383
Got a source on that there dragon crown pic, trappy?
>>36922383
Fuck do I have to train at his gym? I pretty much do everything else there.
