WTF how is it possible for a guy THIS SMALL to be so fucking strong
This guy is 5'9" manlet barely 180lbs and how the fuck does he lift these weights, this must be humanly impossible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMT9uRaMTgY
>>36871551
Great genetics, dedication and PEDs.
>>36871551
because 180lbs on a small guy is ALOT of muscle
>>36871604
This
Its the results of a phenomena known as "years of natty training"
>>36871645
>a phenomena
"phenomena" is the plural form. singular = "phenomenon"
>>36871604
>>36871629
Roiders are notoriously weak and have a typical look that this guy doesn't have. Compare the OP pic to what you see in CBT's
He isn't small, are you blind?
>>36871551
189lbs is huge for someone his height and such a low bf%
>>36871658
I'd be lost without you my love
>>36871672
Internet induced body dysmorphia strikes again
>>36871645
>>36871604
how can he be on roids when he['s so fucking small lifting the weights he does
seriously WTF there's a massive dude at my gym probably weighs 260 or something his max bench is like 385
>>36871667
>Roiders are notoriously weak
What? Literally every top performer in most sports are roiding. The strongest powerlifters, weightlifters, strongmen and all are all roiding. They're notoriously strong, not weak.
>>36871724
Because he's not training to be a huge, juicy bodybuilder, he's training to be a powerlifter.
>>36871735
Dont bother man... youre talkin to a fuckin retard
>>36871667
>Roiders are notoriously weak
>He must be natty since he isn't big
>>36871551
>THIS SMALL
>MANLET
>5'9
kek, oh /fit/ you really are autistic sometimes
>this thread
read
strengtheory
.com/steroids-for-strength-sports/
>>36871724
He's super lean, for one. He'd be 220+ if he was at an average big guy's bodyfat, IMO.
Also, that massive dude at your gym is probably lacking in technique compared to this guy's finely honed competition bench press technique.
>>36871551
Hard work
Short limbs
Favorable build
Lots of endocrine frying gear.
>>36871551
it's because he's doing low bar squats, so his 605 lb "squat" is the same as a 315 lb real squat.
>>36872065
made me respond
Everyone on fit benches 4 plate and squats over 5 but then threads like these still show up?
Yes, his lifts are possible natty. His arms are probably 16 inches pumped.
That's life.
>>36871551
Training, genetics, proportions.
>>36872531
FACE, HEIGHT, FRAME.
180lbs isn't close to small
>>36871724
He has beyond elite level genetics, whether he roids or not doesn't even matter
>>36871875
5'9 is 'small' in the west, sorry that you like somewhere full of manlets
>>36872555
No really though, everybody has a genetic potential in terms of how strong they can get. Beyond that leverages play a big role in powerlifting. Short femurs, long torso, average arms is the best for a big total because you have best proportions for the squat, and decent proportions for the bench and deadlift. John Haack also deadlifts over 700lbs.
>>36872065
How on earth is he not using a pad for that weight. That's so much weight it's got to be tearing at his back muscles.
How does he not blow his spine to bits deadlifting like he does?
Genetic freak thread?
https://youtu.be/_8XKNTJa0iM?t=5m9s
>153 lbs
Have a 5'3 manlet friend at 130ish who squats 385
>>36871763
This is the right answer and no ones even paying attention.
>>36873548
>>36873504
>>36871875
/fit, your memories are so short, you forget about the classics.
Behold the true king of manlets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCY-oIVSR2k&t=1m15s
>>36871551
Because the length of your leg bones and spinal vertebrae do not determine or directly correlate to your level of strength.
>>36871551
Lol makes /plg/ look like absolute shit.
>>36873651
Why?
>>36873630
The length of your bones directly relate to leverage, though.
>>36871551
LOL at that fucking ROM
Holy fuck I hate manlets so much. My dick moves further than that when I get a boner
>>36873698
lol, that lanklet rage. Face it, you'll never look good or be strong without steroids.
>>36873403
Really nice Bait you got there, made me reply
>>36873710
I already look good and I'm already strong.
So... no. I'm just laughing at his baby movements.
Its weird that manlets think they are always stronger or look better than actual men. I'll give it to you though, you DO look better, faster in photos. But even a ripped manlet looks like a child next to a tallbro IRL. Those 15" arms aren't as impressive IRL than they are on a giant monitor.
>>36873773
>>36873426
That's the real question
>>36873309
Literally average
>>36873651
>drug tested USAPL champ makes /plg/ look like shit
Uh...
>>36871551
wtf you retard? 5'7-5'9 180 is pretty big if the person is solid like that guy.
>>36873773
why are lanklets so insecure? why are you mad at manlets?
>>36874331
Average is small. Average doesn't fucking mean most are 5'9, but there's enough manlets under 5'9 to balance out the 6ft+
>>36871551
roiders have confused people into thinking "big muscles" = strong, when in fact 99% of guys with "big muscles" are weak as shit
that guys muscles are dense, efficient as fuck and his Central Nervous System is light-years ahead of fucken curl-bros who roid
>>36871551
what is the point of a spotter on a squat?
seems more dangerous for the spotter
>>36874603
literally the only time 5´9 is a manlet, is when you apply for a modeling job
>>36874658
A big muscle has potential to be a stronger muscle, and it's not like muscle fibers are ever just "for show"
roiders are usually stronger than most people, because roiding gives you more strength quicker. Most bodybuilders are strong. Look at arnolds PRs, or at Kai Greene, incline benching 5 plates.
>>36874699
Or live anywhere outside of south east asia.
>>36871551
What song is that in the video?
Anyways, good on that guy. Most people can't come anywhere near that in their lifetime, roids or not.
>>36874703
Different guy here, you're both right, but let's not forget that Haack is far from small and is in fact bigger than probably anyone else his height who's posting on this board.
idk with those shitty reps I feel like anyone could pull that off.
>>36871551
Jesus FUCK dat squat grind
>>36874801
Also does anyone know why he chooses to squat highbar?
>>36873758
I'm serious dude. That's like 500lbs weighing down on his back muscles.
>>36871604
I doubt hes taking any AAS. He looks totally natty to me. MAYBE halotestin or something specifically for strength, but he lacks that hard grainy look. Just looks legit athletic.
>>36871667
Quit this bullshit. No they arent. While i agree hes probably natty, youre retarded.
>>36874826
You build up your rear delts and traps specifically to make a larger, stronger shelf for the bar.
Also, you're a fucking idiot. Even with a pad, it's still the same amount of force, just with a soft cover instead of hard knurling.
His back can support it the same as his legs do.
>>36874815
High bar honestly doesn't have any serious strength disadvantage from low bar except for two points
1) the limiting factor in high bar tends to be thoriac spine extension, the same as your back tends to be the limiting factor in front squats (it sounds wrong, but think about it - when you fail a front squat, its virtually always because your back rounds rather than because your legs can't handle it). If somebody maintains enough upper back extension work, this shouldn't be an issue.
2) you "bounce" lower than in the low-var squat, so the additional force from the bounce can't help you through the sticking point like in the low bar squat. Again, with very good technique and adequate speedwork this also isn't so much of an issue.
Low bar is honestly easier to squat heavier with, unless you've trained specifically for highbar you're probably going to be weak where you need to be to squat heavy with it.
>>36874908
No I know what you mean about front squat/back strength, but I still have to believe almost everyone in powerlifting would be going lowbar on a max attempt like that.
>>36873773
>you look faster in photos
holy shit these are the people making manlet threads
>>36874951
It really just depends on how they train. 99% are going to train lowbar because it's the easiest from the start, eliminates a weak point, and works better with suits.
Most of the people that squat high bar are converted over from weightlifting and already have extremely strong thoriac extension.
>>36871551
thats not uncommon, at my gym there are plenty of guys smaller than me that are stronger than me, their body is like one big muscle
>>36871616
also this, the ratio of muscle weight to weight that muscle can then lift is stupid
>>36872555
Jeff pls
>>36874603
>Average is small.
No, it's average.
>>36873598
Damn, they were real shit at judging depth in the pre-IPF days, weren't they.
>>36874951
Actually, raw lifters tend to trend towards a sort of high bar squat these days. Low bar is more a carryover from equipped.
>>36871551
What a beast
>>36871724
PEDs and roids are not necessarily the same thing
I can bench 3 plates for 10 reps and nobody on /fit/ believes me because apparently that's a really high amount even for /plg/ standards therefore it must be impossible that a random can do it.
>>36878548
have you tried posting a video you lying turd
like if you go around telling people you have a 16" cock no one will believe you unless you're willing to prove it
extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
>>36874658
literally the only thing big muscle means is strength
but technique is important too
>>36878548
I CAN DO 300X8 , fuck yourself
>>36874826
It's actually 270kg or ~594lbs.
>>36878548
>that's a really high amount
3pl8? bodorio can rep dat shit like twunny times and throw it threw da rooef
>>36878689
Bodorio's also a damn strong geared heavyweight. Ain't that many people around at that level.
>>36878548
I believe you, I see it every day.
A note about /plg/:
Hilariously enough, /plg/ is notoriously shitty at bench. I think to this day the best bench recorded is a 4pl8 bench at 105kg.
so literally height has jack shit to do with your potential to lift heavy things
>>36878702
Fil doesn't lift equipped.
And he competes at 105kg. Not exactly heavyweight. Hell, I'd even say he's a bit light for height.
>>36878712
No. It has a lot to do with it. It just isn't the only thing (and is heavily tied in with bodyweight).
The elite guys at, say, 6'2 or more are moving a lot more weight than Haack does. And the elite guys down in the midget classes do less.
>>36871551
Look at the top people in powerlifting in pretty much any class except for shw, or the extreme twinks. They're all 5'9 or close to it.
>>36878712
No, the bigger you are the larger total potential you have.
Up to a point at least.
I'd say the sweet spot is between 6'3 and 6'7.
>>36871667
>Roiders are notoriously weak
da fuck u mean by that???
in my experience "roiders" are notoriously strong.
>>36878715
I wasn't talking about equipment.
>>36878743
Sorta. For a big 6'5 guy, they're gonna have to weigh around 350 or so to put up a really big bench. Which pretty much means roiding for the vast majority of people.
>>36878548
That's a lot of weight. I'm 40 now and can only do 3 plates a few times but when I was 30 I could do it for 8-10 w a max of 405.
>>36878748
Fil would never use drugs you javla skitstovel, he's a good boy who works hard and would never dream of sullying his body with some javla steroids!
>>36878757
Yeah, but that's what I mean, guys in that range are the ones that have the potential to be the absolute strongest. Above that one tends to become mechanically inefficient and disproportionate.
I weigh 120lbs and can DL 225lbs.
Am I strong too?
>>36878781
Nope, not even if you're a woman.
>>36878803
But that's almost 2x BW.
>>36878825
2xBW means a lot less for midgets than it does larger lifters. There's a reason elite level deadlifts in the lightest weight classes are up near 5xBW and elite deadlifts in the heaviest classes are hovering around 3xBW.
>>36878833
But I'm 6'0. I never stated my height.
Is that midget tier?
>>36871551
fuuaaark, how do you get bearmode like the guy that's spotting him from behind?
Years of training strength + high bodyfat?
>>36878803
it's actually pretty good
>>36878838
>6'0
>120lbs
are you actually a woman
>>36872065
anyone know what those shoes are?
Shit, those guys are all sub 6'0 and look kid-sized.
The memes are real.
>>36878867
nike romaleos 2 weightlifting shoes
>>36878881
sweet thanks
>>36873309
Im 5'10 and im more tall than most people i know. I'm living in a south american country, but that count as west... right sempai?
>>36878863
where is that pic from
>>36880718
http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.html
>>36878517
>these are the people you post on /fit/ with
strength /=/ size
when will you faggots learn this? Muscles don't grow just because the weight you lifted was heavier than before. your muscles dont go oh shit that was a 4 plate deadlift? lol brb getting huge now
>>36871977
what? he is far from super lean, in a super lean guy you can easily see the muscle fibers on the arm, which you cant see on his
It's obviously his training partners. Did you see how juicy his crew was? That's the edge we're all missing
>>36871551
He is not really small though..
>>36873504
>tons of hard work and dedication
>genetic freak brah
literally the same as hambeasts who can't lose weight
>>36871551
i had a dude at my first gym who was around 180 and as lean as this dude and could clean bench 405
some people are just built for strength
>>36874951
But he does squat lowbar
>>36880836
>Muscles don't grow just because the weight you lifted was heavier than before.
that is literally EXACTLY what happens
you increase the mechanical tension on the muscle by adding more weight to the bar, and your muscle is forced to grow so it doesn't snap when you do it again
>>36871551
>one rep max is over a hundred pounds lighter than what strongmen squat for 10+ reps
Entirely unimpressed
>>36878858
+drug use
>>36880836
Let's suppose you're right for a second. How do muscles grow?
>>36878703
>I think to this day the best bench recorded is a 4pl8 bench at 105kg.
>>36882338
Obviously it's progressive overload
But some small guys can just lift a lot
Not all black and white
>>36882493
that chest bounce
sometimes I think PL turns into a "how big can I get to limit my ROM"
>>36882590
He doesn't compete in powerlifting though, and bouncing isn't allowed in competition.
>>36882338
hypertrophy of non-contractile protein
we're kinda bound to the rule of genetic potential when it comes to both contractile protein. To hit that limit is the reason to train.
>>36874855
>>36871724
>thinking all roids make you XBOX HUEG
newfags OUT
>>36882587
>But some small guys can just lift a lot
Yes and they have more muscle mass than what they did when they lifted less. Getting stronger=getting more muscles.
>>36880836
I think what he means to say is the relationship between strength and size isnt absolutely linear, it starts off that way but when you reach 4+ years of lifting you can continue making strength gains with very little muscle mass increase through technique, cns adaptation and muscle fibre recruitment.
>>36881162
Everything haack can do we can do. Stay optimistic guys.
I am also a natty 4pl8 bencher.
Also being lean and strong when youre approaching 10yrs lifting is really easy as opposed to when you start. Huge benefits to those who are consistent.
