>Sandow
>In his time steroids do not exist
>Did high volume workouts with light weight
>Believes that time under tension and muscle connection are the most important things for muscle hypertrophy
>110 years later
>5x5
>low volume works best for naty lifters
>>36842592
Steroids existed 110 years ago.
>>36842592
>In his time steroids do not exist
>>36842592
>low volume works best for naty lifters
I have only heard that the high volume steroid-users are able to train with (thanks to steroids aiding recovery) is too much if you're a natural, is that what you're thinking of?
>>36842592
no they most certainly existed
>>36842592
>light weight
>before being mired for hs body he was a circus strongman
sure thing
>>36842603
Not in isolation.
>>36842592
test has been common since the 1830's
anabolic steroids since 1840's
And he used cocaine to cut.
>>36842652
No.
>>36842592
The average man during Sandow's time had more testosterone than today's
Thanks to our shitty diets and lazy lifestyle
>>36842592
Performance-enhancing substances have been used for thousands of years in traditional medicine by societies around the world, with the aim of promoting vitality and strength. The use of gonadal hormones pre-dates their identification and isolation. Medical use of testicle extract began in the late 19th century, while its effects on strength were still being studied.
In 1889, the 72-year-old Mauritian neurologist Charles-Édouard Brown-Séquard injected himself with an extract of dog and guinea pig testicles, and reported at a scientific meeting that these injections had led to a variety of beneficial effects.
>>36842687
yes, Germany started developing it after the first world war ended in 1828
>>36842704
Fuck.......seriously?
>>36842704
kek
>>36842721
>after the first world war ended in 1828
>first world war
>1828
Hahahahaha yeah dude he is serious.
why do people venerate Sandow like he was a natty king when he literally used drugs
you could buy cocaine from the pharmacy at that time and athletes would take it to increase their strength
also his chest looked like shit
>>36842779
Agree with everything but the chest. I personally find a smaller chest more aesthetic. They didn't even floor press or anything back then did they? I think he did push-ups.
>>36842692
>In 1889, the 72-year-old Mauritian neurologist Charles-Édouard Brown-Séquard injected himself with an extract of dog and guinea pig testicles, and reported at a scientific meeting that these injections had led to a variety of beneficial effects.
Unless his results were repeated it isn't scientifically valid.
![Smug+anime+faces_95aba7_5762907[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/iCfqGVC.jpg "Smug+anime+faces_95aba7_5762907[1].jpg")
>>36842721
>>36842742
>>36842747
Guess you eurofags don't know your own history
Such is life under socialism
>>36842779
>also his chest looked like shit
The benchpress wasn't invented during his time
>>36842779
>you'll never use maximum drugs in the early '00s
feelsbadman
>>36842827
>Dips
>Floor press
>Push-ups
>Standing incline press (pic related)
>>36842592
>low volume works best for naty lifters
Literally the only people who says this are Rippetoe and people on online forums.
>>36842842
>standing incline press
Lol you mean snap-city? This is a max effort OHP
>>36842864
It's safe as long as your low back is strong enough
It's not just for max effort, oly lifters specifically trained The Press that way, together with strict press, back in the days
>>36842842
I suddenly understand why they took out ohp in oly lifting
>>36842884
Precisely why it was removed from oly lifting.
Anybody else think he doesn't really look that good? I mean, yeah like he looks pretty good compared to a normie, but not that good compared to plenty of today's natty lifters. Obviously I have the benefit of knowing more about nutrition, having better equipment, etc, but honestly, I believe I look just as good or better and I'm a natty bodybuilder.
>>36842963
That's WHY he looks so impressive m8.
>>36842592
>5x5
>low volume works best for naty lifters
lol no
SS and SL are strength routines. Only a retard would use sets of 5 for hypertrophy.
>>36842798
Thats because back then big chests were considered feminine and unaesthetic.
>>36842963
They didn't have good cameras or special filters(or photoshop) back then.
>>36842963
To be fair he'd probably look great if we gave him a ride in a time machine, got him a tan and some body oil, lathered him up and took some pictures with good lighting. He was working with what he had, but the tools we have to both maintain good nutrition for building muscle and showing it off is miles ahead
>>36842704
Right. Just a few years before they bombed Pearl Harbor.
>>36842963
He was aiming for the classical ideal.
The statue in image-related was sculpted by an Athenian sculptor named Myron, by the way.
>>36842884
supinated grip? WTF.
>>36843010
involves bicep
that way OHP trains both triceps and biceps
He's natty like scooby
>>36842592
>Took lots of drugs
>Cocaine addiction and thinks cranking out lots of sets is the key to everything
>Dies young etc
>110 years later
>Science reveals cocaine doesn't make you superman
>Sciences also reveals better methods of hypertrophy
Feel free to listen to the cocaine addict instead of science...
>black background
>light shining down on him
>black and white
Anyone who lifted a year and reaches <10bf is sandow-mode in those lighting conditions...
>that chest
I like the flat chest aesthetic but does going for it damn me to becoming an emerald alien?
Has anyone ever actually looked at sandow's proportions? He's normie big but there are guys in your gym who are likely bigger at similar BF%. They're on gear, but its still sort of weird how small he actually was relative to the modern lifter. Definitely doable as a lifetime natty with good genetics tho
height: 5'9 1/4"
weight: 202 lbs.
neck: 18"
chest: 48"
biceps: 18 1/2"
forearm: 16 1/2"
wrist: 7 1/2"
waist: 30"
hips: 42"
thigh: 26"
knee: 14"
calf: 18"
ankle: 8 1/2"
>>36843205
>that biceps to forearm ratio
>>36843391
He definitely trained for a different ideal than today's bodybuilders.
>>36842592
am i the only one that thinks sandow looks retarded? He has absolutely no v-taper, literally just fucking cylinder
>>36843462
sandow avoided core and back work to get the more athletic Grecian look
>>36843205
ya now try with no protein powder or supplements
>>36843462
Bodybuilding was brand new. The ideal bodybuilder physique hadn't been established yet.
>>36842651
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_in_baseball
>Players have attempted to gain chemical advantages in baseball since the earliest days of the sport. In 1889, for example, pitcher Pud Galvin became the first baseball player to be widely known for his use of performance-enhancing substances.[6] Galvin was a user and vocal proponent of the Brown-Séquard Elixir, a testosterone supplement derived from the testicles of live animals such as dogs and guinea pigs.[6]
Same year Sandow appeared on stage. Ephedrine also existed already.
>>36842592
looks fucking average. No chest. No Lats
>>36842704
WE WUZ UNT BODYBUILDERS N SCHEISSE
>>36843510
>Brown-Séquard Elixir
Actually did nothing.
people in this thread are shitting on him but fail to realise that he didn't have the nutritional knowledge that we have today, he didn't know about certain excersises that we do today, and he didn't have any suppies except for cocain which we all know is not anabolic.
People like him set bodybuilding in motion for us.
He looks pretty good considering what tools and knowledge he had to work with.
>>36843543
Post a picture of yourself to back up that pile of degenerate filth
>>36842704
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting senpai.
>mfw the 1900s now feel just as fast away as the 1800s to kids born after 2000.
>>36842842
Just fuck my back up, senpai
>>36843628
>Actually did nothing.
Lol.
>Research on the action of testosterone received a brief boost in 1889, when the Harvard professor Charles-Édouard Brown-Séquard (1817–1894), then in Paris, self-injected subcutaneously a "rejuvenating elixir" consisting of an extract of dog and guinea pig testicle. He reported in The Lancet that his vigor and feeling of well-being were markedly restored but the effects were transient,[176] and Brown-Séquard's hopes for the compound were dashed. Suffering the ridicule of his colleagues, he abandoned his work on the mechanisms and effects of androgens in human beings.
>In 1927, the University of Chicago's Professor of Physiologic Chemistry, Fred C. Koch, established easy access to a large source of bovine testicles — the Chicago stockyards — and recruited students willing to endure the tedious work of extracting their isolates. In that year, Koch and his student, Lemuel McGee, derived 20 mg of a substance from a supply of 40 pounds of bovine testicles that, when administered to castrated roosters, pigs and rats, remasculinized them.[177] The group of Ernst Laqueur at the University of Amsterdam purified testosterone from bovine testicles in a similar manner in 1934, but isolation of the hormone from animal tissues in amounts permitting serious study in humans was not feasible until three European pharmaceutical giants—Schering (Berlin, Germany), Organon (Oss, Netherlands) and Ciba (Basel, Switzerland)—began full-scale steroid research and development programs in the 1930s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone#History
It worked. Mad?
>>36843976
His work only inspired further research. His reports of vigor and well-being were placebo. Why? Because his elixir was mixed with water, and testosterone is not soluble in water. It had no physiological effect.
>>36842963
Kek. Pics or stfu faggot
>>36844012
>He reported in The Lancet that his vigor and feeling of well-being were markedly restored but the effects were transient
>when administered to castrated roosters, pigs and rats, remasculinized them.[177]
You are so funny, tiny American man.
>>36843976
>derived 20 mg of a substance from a supply of 40 pounds of bovine testicles
now scale that up to an amount of substance that would give a full cycle significant enough to benefit gains
and we dont even know the purity of that substance, or how much would be effective free test in circulation
brb grinding up 40lbs of bovine testicles per day for only trt amounts of test
>>36842704
WHAT THE FUCK RETARD
>>36843758
This. Also at that time a different beauty ideal existed.
>>36843008
you mirin?
>>36842592
people still dont realise how strong this guy was. he could do back somersaults with 20kg dumbbells on his hands.also look at his massive biceps,abs,obliques and calves.they are very impressive even today.few can claim this kind of physique.if he had a bigger chest he would be mired by everyone even today.
>>36844012
>and testosterone is not soluble in water. It had no physiological effect.
