How can I not be "skinny fat" anymore? I'm a 23 yo girl, 125 pounds, 5'8" but I can't seem to get toned, especially around my abs. I'm im the gym 3-4 times a week, doing cardio and lifting. I eat pretty healthy and don't eat sugar at all. What am I doing wrong/what can I do to tone up?
>pic unrelated, but it looks a little like my stomach
First off, I just wanna say if that's what you look like, don't change anything. Second, read the sticky.
>>36807134
Going to see what we are dealing with first op
>>36807134
your definition of "pretty healthy" can be someones definition of shit. if you are really in the gym lifting and doing cardio 3x a week your diet is fucked up.
you probably eat many calories, mostly from carbs and little to no protein. what does your diet consist of?
Say "tone" one more time.
>>36807134
Gonna need to see an actual pic of you to really see what you've got going on
Until you do that you can't really get any help
>>36807134
London
>>36807158
This. Always this.
>>36807134
Post pic of self for reference and give us a rundown of what you typically eat throughout the week.
Be honest and don't leave anything out. That means include dressings, sauces, and snacks.
>>36807193
This...
>>36807134
>I can't seem to get toned
> Toned
>>36807155
fuck off faggot we strive for perfection here
>>36807304
Which is what I'm seeing in the OP pic.
>>36807134
T O R O N T O
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>>36807134
for real just go for high test mode
>>36807321
Don't be a white knight, dude .... that's fucked up and it helps nobody. If she wants to change her body a bit and is asking for advice, help her instead of telling her how beautiful she already is.
>>36807412
"Read the sticky" is really the only advice you need, and would've been the only response if OP didn't say "I'm a girl." So really I'm the only one that isn't being a "whiteknight."
>>36807134
>no body pick
kill urself
also
abs are made in the kitchen
My girlfriend has your stats and complains of the same thing. You guys dont eat enough protein and dont lift enough/heavy enough. You will not get crazy muscles at your weight, that is how you get "tone" as a chick. Which isnt a thing btw.
>>36807134
GOOD THREAD DUDE
>>36807134
Pectoral development or gtfo
>>36807412
>now listen here baby bird...
>>36807481
Women shouldn't lift. They're the superior gender. After squatting just the bar for a week they will look like Schwarznigger, really unattractive. Patriarchy wants people to believe men can pack on muscle and get toned up faster.
Again, pic is needed to quantify.
Am dude but I have low test and excersise the legs often so I have massive hips, but then I gained weight so I look like a woman with a moustache.
I'm envious of you, i like girls with a hint of paunch(but not superfat)
>>36807462
yeah, you are right about the sticky, but what you said at the beginning was still a bit too whiteknight-ish
>>36807134
bitch, fuck off and read the sticky.
>>36807134
Every skinny fat girl has the same problem, you don't lift heavy enough. Most of the girls that have that problem have the same stupid idea that they will become she-hulk overnight if they put more weight on the bar.
Stop being a bitch and lift heavy so you can get some actual muscles.
If you know you're doing the right shit, keep doing that shit until you reach the objective.
It's not rocket science, you don't start running a marathon and stop mid way to ask someone why you keep running and haven't yet reached the finishing line.
>>36807412
>>36807571
(You)
Don't eat bread OP
>>36807155
>>36807571
>>36807462
The sticky is dead FYI.
>>36807837
Hot
>>36807837
Hot asf
Just woke up from a nap so sorry about the lines all over!
>>36807865
I see you're from straya
>>36807865
I'm >>36807614
Just keep working if you're unhappy. But you have a beautiful body already and jesus christ you have no idea how much I'd cum over that skin of yours.
>>36807865
eat less you dumb dumb
>>36807888
kek'd n check'd
>>36807865
Holy shit don't change one bit
>>36807865
You literally have no muscle, lady. How do you intend to look "toned"?
Your tights look pretty flabby, you don't look bad but you gotta actually workout if you wanna look better than that. What the fuck do you even do on the gym btw? It looks like you don't lift at all.
>>36807927
>>36807921
wtf happened to fit
>>36807949
I just like to squeeze some fat on a deathgrip, don't judge me.
Also, you lardass reading this, I said some fat. Drop that sandwich.
>>36807865
you look like when you talk about lifting you really mean leg press and butterfly machine
>>36807865
You have a great body already, could be perfect if you worked ass and lost a little fat from the stomach. Mirin the hips and tits.
Do squats, hip thrusters, lunges, and some cardio
>>36807949
>fit is one person
>>36807865
When you say you're trying to get "toned" you mean you're trying to add muscle and burn fat.
First off, you need to eat better. It's not about cutting carbs. It's about getting protein and eating at least a little bit more than your body needs. Use a TDEE calculator to determine how much calories your body burns each day and eat 100 or 200 calories over that.
Second, you need to lift heavy. Your body isn't going to add muscle if you're not telling it it needs it. Do squats and deadlifts, but with enough weight to where you can only lift 5 or so per set.
You have a fortunate bodyfat distribution from what I can see here so you'll be looking like one of those instagram sluts in no time.
>>36807865
You body looks fine, but if you want some definition:
>Do calisthenics
>Run harder/longer
>Count your calories
>>36807134
>toned
>>36807865
>T O N E D
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>D
>>36807865
Listen, little baby. You're going to get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about.
Let me just say, you're pefect the way you are. You hear me, sugar? P E R F E C T.
Don't ever change. You deserve everything and anything you want. Stay safe for me, babygirl.
>mfw thinking about you hurting
>>36808055
Just meme me up senpai
>>36807865
>DAT PERFECT AMOUNT OF TUMMY POUCH FAT
>DOZE BIG OL TITTIES
>DOZE DECENT THIGHS (could be thicker but I'm just being picky now)
Fertile as fuck.
Don't lose any fat. Lift more if you want to add mroe muscle underneath. But don't lose fat, don't go skelly.
Also LONDON
>>36808055
Eat whole grain bread it will fill you up fast
>>36808066
I'd "meme" you right up, if you know what I mean.
>>36808090
You forgot the "no homo", faggot.
>>36807134
If you are a girl, skinny fat is the best look. guys love it. Unless you are deluding yourself and are actually FAT, not skinnyFAT. which is totally different.
but if you are fat but think you are skinnyfat then you must not be too much past skinnyfat, in which case you can easily turn it around.
I suggest to you a supplement called Yohimbine. It makes me get lean really fast when I use it. I don't know if it works just as well for girls, but it is totally safe, an herb basically.
>>36808105
Full homo, bro. Full homo.
>>36807865
if that is you then don't change. you are as close to perfection as a girl can get, from a man's perspective.
op needs to drink more cum
/thread
>>36808055
this pasta always makes me cringe...urghhhhhhh
>>36807865
Water retention
>>36807865
>>36807865
>>36807865
Listen, little baby. You're going to get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about.
Let me just say, you're pefect the way you are. You hear me, sugar? P E R F E C T.
Don't ever change. You deserve everything and anything you want. Stay safe for me, babygirl.
>mfw thinking about you hurting
Ostarine + SS
>tfw no skinnyfat gf
>>36807134
The things I'd do to that belly...
>>36807134
Count your calories.
>>36808377
my nigga
>>36807865
fucccccccccccccccccccck offfffffff I need to go to work
>>36807576
Not only that, but you gotta be tall to be a She-Hulk.
I'm 7'1", so I am a She-Hulk.
At your height, dear, you'd be considered She-Hulk's Baby Sister.
>>36807865
These threads are always some grill asking for vague advice, and everyone telling her the same thing.
Then the thread waits for the big reveal and... BAM attentionwhore. This picture is barely helpful because it's got "bad angles" and only shows your best features. It hides that inner thigh fat because its upside fucking down. And you didn't mention your diet
>>36808055
Just for the record
>>36807888
Actually lol'd
>>36807865
you look weak as hell.
youre a wimp.
fuck losing weight, you need to gain muscle
SS + GOMAD
4 scoops of weight gainer 2-3 times a day every day
>>36808147
Yeah, mine
Seriously though ya'll niggas thirsty as fuck. I thought people on /fit/ had girlfriends/wives, or an active sex life? Like, damn
>>36808993
>I thought people on /fit/ had girlfriends/wives, or an active sex life? Like, damn
>>36807888
audible kek
>>36807134
SS + GOMAD
wow. there is sure a lot of low standards in this thread. bunch of desperate losers.
>>36807865
listen hun, you are a 6/10 at best. while im sure you get a lot of attention, and hell, id even sling some dick at you in a time of desperation, you have a long way to go. you need to lose a good amount of bf, and do some accessory work. I might be able to help you out. if you are interested let me know. we can exchange emails and if we are close (I think we might be) we can meet. don't listen to these DYELs. you need work and the help of someone who knows what they are doing. I can train you. you have potential.
>>36808833
L O N D O N
>>36808055
I'll take 'Things that cucks say' to 200, Alex
>>36809063
All that aside, a 6/10 in a world where half the population are 2/10s isn't terrible.
>>36809063
Ok faggot post a pic of yourself so we know your not just some random troll trying to bait
>>36809117
>to
You had one job and couldn't even do that properly. Neck yourself.
>>36807865
Now that all of the cucks have spoken....lose some weight. Like 10 lbs. Calculate your TDEE, track your calories, and you can lose 10 lbs in about 2 months safely. Eat foods high in protein. Reduce your carb intake. Kee lifting and doing cardio. After those 10 lbs are gone, you'll be happier with your fat distribution.
>>36809172
I don't do that. I know the majority of this board is faggots (from /fa/) just jerking off to men's bodies. I'm not contributing to that cancer.
>>36807865
With those tits you don't need to get toned (fuckingretardedbitch) besides you dont have one once of muscle anyway
>>36808055
This makes me laugh everytime.
>>36807865
Hi! Few things to start off =]
1. Yes, I'm replying to you because you're a femanon( 'tis an awesome thing to see!)
2. I'm Brian
3. Don't be intimidated, but I'm not your stereotypical guy. If anything I'll be the one in the kitchen! xD
>>36808833
HOLY FUCK
POST PICS
p-please
>>36807865
Best way to get toned is GOMAD. That's a gallon of whole milk a day, if you didn't know. Now you may be thinking, "anon... That's high in fat! How in the world will that get me toned?" You see, the fat in milk is not the same kind of fat that MAKES you fat. It is only there to fortify the cellular walls of the milk's proteins and calcium. This is why whole milk is objectively better for you than skim milk. Think about it: when's the last time you saw a fat person drinking milk? They just don't do it, if they did they wouldn't be fat. Drink as much whole milk as you can. When you lift, do one rep of a low weight until failure. For maximum results, don't even use weight, just sit on the machine and do the motion as long as you can. Fuel this routine with some whole milk and you'll be slimmed down in no time.
>>36808833
post pics please
i want to climb you
>>36807865
I have a hard time believing you're 125lbs. You look a little chunky. So basically, lose more weight and weigh yourself at the gym.
>>36808107
Not OP but I read about yohimbine and everywhere's selling it as an aphrodisiac. Does it make any significant changes in that department? I want to get lean, not jump anything that looks my way.
>>36813409
Popping adderall like candy 4-5 days a week while working 20 hour shifts on a fishing ship will keep you lean.
Source: my life since leaving my parents house 7 years ago
Op
READ THE STICKY
Also post pick of you're back so we can give some advice on you're routine
>>36807865
Would you perhaps sit on my face,fair maiden?
>>36813455
Your life sounds like a riot and if I ever meet you we can talk about the fishing ship but does yohimbine fuck about with your libido
>>36808107
I'd liked to try this, but it sounds like it'd trigger my panic disorder pretty fast. Anyone have problems with that?
>>36814236
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/
Not OP, and can't see a QTDDTOT thread so gonna post here cos of my female status.
Cutting after a bulk, have lost about 4 lbs so far and have maybe 4-5 left to go. I'm 5'4, 112 lbs.
I'm eating an avg of 1550 calories a day, and losing a lb a week. Problem is, wouldn't that mean my maintenance is around 2k calories? That sounds too high considering I'm not active at all outside of the gym, I just sit all day studying. I work out 3x a week, around 2-4 hours (lel).
What is the average female lifter's maintenance calories?
>eating bread
>tfw you were born female and will never be a glorious glistening muscular man
>>36814357
But you just said you go to the gym.
So that 2000 includes your workout.
Wow, the memes are true. Wymmyn really are this dumb.
>>36814433
You have the same set of muscles a man has. What is stopping you from doing the FMT transition?
>>36814453
Nah, I understand, but all the wymyn I know who lift as much as me eat 1600-1800 calories, sometimes even less to maintain. Even when I read the female bb forums the women eat less it seems.
It just sounds too much considering how small I am.
>>36814357
>According to Harvard Medical School, active women need about 18 calories per pound of body weight.
>Moderately active women need about 16 calories per pound of body weight each day, which is about 1,920 calories per day for a 120-pound woman.
According to this you should be around 1792-1904 per day
SS + GOMAD
>>36814699
>not shaving
>>36807865
>tfw no lifter gf that I can fuck in her smelly asshole after she does squats
>tfw no cardiobunny gf that will let me cum on her sweat covered tits
Why even bother living?
>>36807134
Oh god she said the T word.
*checks comments*
Yup, there they go.
Listen, if you want to lose weight eat less lift more run more. Are you counting calories? It dosn't matter if you eat no sugar, no carbs, no fat. Diet could be 100% protein and you'll still hold fat if you're over calorie maintenance.
Eat Less
Run More
Lift More
You know what to do.
>>36814575
Everyone still has unique body composition.
Your exact frame, bone density, exact amounts of muscle, exact amount of fat, other tissue. Genetic + environmental.
Then there's other things like specific organ/organ system current condition (100% perfect functioning, 90% great, 80% bretty gud, 70% etc).
Exactly what you're doing with your brain (brain can use 400 cals a day. That's quite a lot. A thinker might literally use a couple of hundred more calories just from a day of hard brain work as opposed to if you just sat on your ass and watched TV).
Stress levels. Adrenal gland efficiency. Lingering cortisol.
Homeostasis - if you're in colder places throughout the day (outside, a cold library) as opoosed to warm and comfy at home, you literally will use more calories to maintain body temp.
And then there's the exact composition of what you eat. The macros. And then even if you and some others girl's macros look the same, getting down to the micronutrients (because the amount and balances and quantities feed back into your general organ/organ system/homeostasis performance). Your 40-30-30 from white rice, whey brotein and canola oil will perform markedly different on a cellular level to her 40-30-30 from veggies+spices, organic chicken breast and coconut oil.
Basically there are fucktons of variables. Figuring out your own body is difficult enough without then comparing it to others'. Millions of things are happening on a cellular level. Do your best but as long as you're moving in the right direction don't get hung up on understanding/mastering fluctuating minutiae.
>>36807865
I would not fuck you... thats gross as fuck
You are eating way more calories than you need... measure what you eat with a fuckign scale... eat at a deficit... actually lift at the gym.. yoga is not lifting. 3 pudgy 5 me
>>36815107
> I would not fuck you... thats gross as fuck
Out of interest, what girls DO you normally pull? Not ones you'd LIKE to, but ones you do on a consistent or semi-consistent basis?
>>36815142
my girlfriend ..... not the most attractive girl on earth but shes cute ... has a bretty nice body.. not fat looking like op..
>>36815177
Pics or lies.
To each their own, but OP is a long cry from fat. She looks better than the majority of people.
>>36807927
What this guy said. Don't change at all
>>36807134
>>36807134
Cardio and blow
>>36807134
You're already a low bmi for your stats and close to underweight. If you still look like shit its because you have no muscle and you're all fat. In his case you wouldn't need to lose weight to stop being skinnyfat, you actually need to put on muscle to look more firm and toned which probably means putting on weight as muscle is more dense than fat.
>>36814787
Wow yes those are a lot of variables, always assumed they didn't make that much of a difference though.
But I study a ton + I'm under an indescribable amount of stress and it's cold af here. So that makes sense.
>A thinker might literally use a couple of hundred more calories just from a day of hard brain work as opposed to if you just sat on your ass and watched TV).
Interesting
>>36807462
Rip sticky ded
>>36815198
posting a pic of your gf on 4chan.. na breh... shes just doesn't have that belly hump the op has in her picture... also she looks like the average girl in the US not in europe... I am from Italy and the average is much better there...
also stop white knighting you faggot.. she is clearly not fit.. if a guy posted a body like that on this board you would tell him to kill himself.. she is visibly not in shape.. she needs to eat a fucking deficit and workout more.. she doesn't think she is in fuckign shape which is why she posted this thread..
>>36807515
I have naturally high levels of testosterone/legit hormone imbalance and actually put on muscle faster than some guys. The average male is actually pretty weak now a days
>>36815259
> if a guy posted a body like that on this board you would tell him to kill himself
No I wouldn't. I'm not looker myself, but I'm working on it.
> stop white knighting you faggot
> genuinely believe someone isn't fat is white-knightting
ok
> I am from Italy
That explains it, Manners on a level second only to France
>>36807865
Jesus Christ how do you look that fat wih those stats? Just how devoid of muscle are you? You look like me when I was a 150 lbs fatty and I'm 5'7.
Fit was about aiming high and pursuing excellence
Now all it takes is a skinnyfat attention whore to post an upside down pic and the whole thread gets fucked up with the unironic London Posters and whiteknight beta orbiters
I think imma take a longer break
>>36815276
SHE MADE THE ENTIRE THREAD BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO BE IN BETTER SHAPE YOU FUCKING AUTIST.
>>36815276
holy shit tip your fedora any harder and it'll fall off the scrotum you call a head
>>36815259
bella negro
