See the guy in the back in pic related? According to Elliott in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zq_nM5H3bk , his horrible posture, which we see everywhere nowadays, is caused by abnormally over-shortened hip flexors. This is caused by sitting all the time, AND.... by doing crunches! According to Elliott, Vince Gironda was avidly against crunches and leg raises, and even kicked people out of his gym for doing them, because they shortened the hip flexors, and this led to bad posture and a less aesthetic physique.
What does /fit/ do to avoid shortened hip flexors?
>>36788294
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hip+flexor+stretch
>>36788294
What? Crunches use the least hip flexors of any ab exercise
>>36788320
Are you implying you know more than Vince Gironda?
>>36788315
I want to hear personal experience.
>>36788294
>What does /fit/ do to avoid shortened hip flexors?
Stretch them.
>>36788367
vince gironda was a rat-faced italiano greaseball manlet. shush
>>36788393
but he's right about hip flexors
It's called anterior pelvic tilt and a lot of dudes have it/develop it because they don't stretch their hip flexors or, more importantly, strengthen their posterior chain.
>>36788294
well vince gironda has a lot of stupid opinions which he feels very strong about also one of the first fake natties who try really hard to come across as some theoretical expert and genetic freak at the same time when he basically just juiced and carb cycled. As for the hip flexor thing - why not just stretch them and make them strong in their elongated position and continue using leg raises which are a great core exercise which strengthens the hip flexors as well
I had this, caused me to pull one of my hip flexors several times and my hip dislocated twice while sprinting. Also lead to lower back damage when doing dead lifts because my back was hyper-arched inward (curved upward, like a smiley face).
But i'm almost better now, stretch them everyday and forced better posture (walk with my hips thrusted forward, feels silly but looks normal)
>>36788294
Stretch hip flexors, strengthen hip extensors, mobility work before and after exercises, mobility work at 30-60 minute intervals whilst sitting at a desk for a quick break, longer time out every 2-4 hours.
I almost constantly have lower back pain triggered by sitting.
When I squat it actually feels better after, kek.
But the next day it becomes worse then.
I guess the workout first stretches the hip flexor but then makes it tight again as result to the stress.
Idk
Just stretch them you dildo
Hamstrings, hip flexors, scapula internal rotators.
These are the muscles that need to be worked on for good posture.
>>36788546
I thought it was from a weak core/abs? I can squat a ridiculous amount for my weight and I have it, so I don't think it's from a weak posterior chain
>>36788373
>>36789717
Not OP, but I've been stretching them daily for more than month already, along with other stretches for APT and I can't see any difference in my posture.
>>36788586
>Also lead to lower back damage when doing dead lifts
Same here. I miss squats
>>36788294
>giving a shit about what that manlet has to say
>>36789941
Meant to say deadlifts
>>36788294
In his book he says the key factor is not arching your back during ab exercises, which shifts work from the abdominals to the psoas muscles.
>>36789921
How much do you stretch them? I'd recommend five sets of twenty seconds for each leg twice a day. The 90/90 is the single hardest stretch I've ever done.
If that alone isn't helping treat it like an anterior pelvic tilt and do the whole strengthening routine that goes along with that. That's what I've been doing and I think it's helping, but it's a very slow process.
>>36789990
1-2 mintues per stretch, once a day
>>36789921
Google couch stretch. That shit will let you know what a real hip flexor stretch feels like and will fix your shit.
>>36789864
You forgot the abdominal muscles.
>>36789921
If you aren't also doing posture-supporting exercises, like stomach vacuums, cable twists, back extensions, or even deadlifts as WELL as stretching the hip flexors, you won't see the benefits.
