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Who /PrincessBrideSyndrome/ here? Honestly I think most of us do. This is it basically:

> start lifting for girls (don't lie; most of us did)
> focus on lifting and getting aesthetic
> possibly focus on other forms of self-improvement
> don't practice attracting women while on the path on aesthetics
> consciously/unconsciously hope that when we hit aesthetic that women will suddenly flock to us (being not good enough and coming back eventually expecting a big change = Princess Bride Syndrome)
> end up aesthetic
> still bad with women
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I wouldn't admit it in real life but yeah
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Hello. My name is Elliot Rodger. You killed my confidence. Prepare to die.
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>>36643410
>Practice attracting women
Seriously, if you have to practice this, then you are probably level 10 autist. Yeah the chances are that you won't get any if you don't even go fucking talk to them.
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Sort of. Don't know if I'm bad with women cause I'm too busy improving my physical appearance to talk to any of them. Thing is I don't see an end point to it. Honestly didn't start lifting for girls though, the feeling of being more than average is such a rush to me.
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Dayum mang.
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>>36643410
>that chick on the left
Jesus that chick is hot
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Whenever I get female attention, I still assume they're being ironic and they're making fun of me so I don't reciprocate.

They probably are...
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>>36643484
Women dont understand irony, youre probably in the clear
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>>36643484
>Girl tells me body is nice
>I proceed to point out all the reasons I think it isn't nice enough yet

Cockblocking myself on the reg
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>>36643483
nipple piercings are such a turn-on innit
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>>36643410
>attract hot fit sluts
>theyre all shallow whores with no personality
>if they do lift they use smith machines
>extremely 1 dimensional
>get an avg asian gf
>shares same tastes in culture without being a stuck up bitch
>bakes me stuff
>has a perfect atg squat

join the brotherhood of avg asian gf lads
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>>36643523
Absolutely, it screams im a dirty whore and mentally i hate that but my dick screams yes.
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I regularly fucked a model when I was overweight, and I still punch above my weight now I'm fit. You either have game or your don't.

Lifting to attract girls doesn't work because personality is at least as important as looks, and personality can't be taught. If all you want is casual sex with the sort of girl you wouldn't make your gf anyway, and likewise for her, then cool. Keep at it.
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>>36643548
>Picture of mexican gurl saying why not both
Why cant people aspire to have good looks and a personality?
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>>36643548
So if I was able to fuck girls before I start lifting, I'll still be able to afterward?

no way
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>>36643410
I had pretty much the opposite experience when I transitions into aesthetics

>get beautiful gf
>decide to get aesthetic to 'get on her level'
>blast n cruise for 4 years
>be aesthetic for 3 of the 4 years of the relationship
>only thing that changed was I get lots of opportunities to cheat EVERY TIME I go out with friends
>even sometimes random girls message me on FB and want the D
>turn everyone down because I'm a good guy
>gf turns even more obsessed over me and gives more BJ than I imagined possible because she is so jealous of the attention I get
>don't even want the attention


It's been a shock. I've been unattractive to the opposite sex for my entire life up until a few years ago... And I know that I will never use this advantage to cheat on my gf. Because she is the one person who wanted me before I became aesthetic. Unlike everyone else, she actually loves who I am on the inside enough.. And I strive for more aesthetics because that's what she deserves.


So yeah. Find a girl who wants to be with you. THEN care about aesthetics... Don't get aesthetic to get girls who only care about aesthetics and the D.
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>>36643524
>get an avg asian gf
>shares same tastes in culture
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>>36643459
If you have to practice attracting women it's because...guess what! You're bad at attracting women because you have no experience attracting women. Just like a guy who has never drawn will create shitty pictures or a guy who has never cooked will make shitty food.

I know we throw around the term 'autist' like nothing around here, but the thing is that real autists can't REALLY get better. Most of us are just lacking in this particular social experience though--nothing inherently wrong with us. How do you get better? Practice.
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>>36643410
>> start lifting for girls (don't lie; most of us did)
I started lifting because I wanted to join the military and to get in shape.
Now I lift because I honestly like the challenge and the feeling.
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"Lifting" to attract girls is the stupidest thing you can possibly do. Not because it's "vain" or "not the right thing to do", but because it DOESNT FUCKING WORK.

You're not "bad with women" because you "didn't practice attracting them", you're bad with women because you AREN'T FUCKING ATTRACTIVE. I hate to say it, but it's the way it is.

Your definition of "aesthetic" is being swole and lean. You know what women find "aesthetic"?

A handsome FACE, a tall HEIGHT, and good BONE structure. You can gymcel your ENTIRE LIFE but it won't change these SET IN STONE, GENETIC factors that MATTER THE MOST. Really the only way working out will make you look better is if you're already overweight and losing weight reveals previously hidden cheekbones/jawline, and therefore improves your FACE. Thinking women like guys with autistic bulging muscles is stupid as FUCK. Yeah, they might like a little bit of muscle, but 1) it's meaningless compared to FACE, HEIGHT and FRAME, and 2)Studies have shown that women prefer their partners to be in shape naturally, rather than having to go to the gym to maintain a physique.
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It's beta as fuck but I can't handle the idea of rejection so I'm just passive as fuck around women.

It would literally take a girl to rape me before I'd know she wanted something from me
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>>36643563
Someone is probably going to call you gay or a pussy but dont listen to them for 1 second man. You are living the dream and doing the right thing.
>>36643585
This is semi true but its best to develop those things when you are young. If you missed out be socially normal at a young age you are most likely fucked for the rest of your life. Home schooled kids are a perfect example of too little too late.
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>>36643596
>FACE, HEIGHT and FRAME
I missed you.
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>>36643563
Good job.
>>36643601
This.
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>>36643410
>being not good enough and coming back eventually expecting a big change

How was this your takeaway form that movie?
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>>36643410
You know that's not really how the movie went, right?
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ITT: no one knows how to get pussy because no one ever goes out to actually try and get some.
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I started lifting because I hate the way I look and have to fix it.
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>>36643658
Nice shit post friend. Now fuck off.
>>36643660
This, i wanted to look at myself naked in the mirror and like what i see.
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>>36643658
I replied twice ITT, I used to get pussy when I was (still am) overweight and out of shape*, it's just that I pretty much ended up same as this >>36643660

>* = so out of shape I'd always say "get on top" because I'd get tired of fugging
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>>36643515
Tell her that other guys on an anonymous imageboard you frequent criticize your naked pictures and make remarks about your "dyel" body
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>>36643596
Can't be further from the truth famalam. You have to be at least average (read: not ugly), but by no means do you have to be a freaking Adonis. And from the face rate threads, you'll see so many fucking average looking guys who simply think they're ugly. I'd say 70% of guys are average looking (15% ugly/15% good looking). I include fatties who would look average if they just lost the weight, in the average category.

PROOF? All of us fucking know that one average as fuck looking guy who always picks up women. No he's not good looking or tall, and doesn't somehow stink of money. He's just really good with women skill-wise (read: game, personality, charisma, etc.)
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>>36643410
Yup. Haven't made it yet, but this sums it up pretty accurately.
Wish I had that meme of the guy doing push ups that says keep lifting till someone loves you
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>>36643675
Alright man we get it. You put the penor in the vagoogoo, now fuck off with your personality bullshit.
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>>36643702
>now fuck off with your personality bullshit
You're never gonna make it with that attitude brah
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>>36643548
>If all you want is casual sex with the sort of girl you wouldn't make your gf anyway, and likewise for her, then cool. Keep at it.
thanks, will do
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>>36643410
>Princess Bride Syndrome

I do not think that phrase means what you think it means
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As an older guy who is good with women, I think the main issue that guys have with women is that they try too hard. Relax. Stop over thinking every single thing and just act how you normally would around a human being. Whether that be a man OR or a woman. But I'm sure that's partly the issue for some of you since you simply don't know how to act around people...whole other issue there.

It might seem rather neckbeard but when I was younger I would subtle hints from movies or men that were obviously good with women. A lot of me has changed since then to where I've adopted what actually works for myself. What would they do? Would someone who is confident/good with women do this? That's the easiest way to explain it.
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>>36643693
>You have to be at least average
Are you living in this century?
You have to be at least TOP 5 PERCENT, if you want to SLAY. Sure, you can be a beta provider to Chad's leftovers as an average guy, but that's not something that appeals to me. UNLESS YOU MAKE THE TOP 5% CUT OF THE GENETIC ELITE, YOU WILL LITERALLY NEVER BE ATTRACTIVE TO WOMEN. Notice I said "attractive".

Sure, Mark Zuckerberg could probably get loads of girls, but that's because THEY WANT HIS MONEY AND FAME, not HIM PERSONALLY. The ONLY way to have women lust after YOU rather than YOUR ITEMS, is to be GENETICALLY GOOD LOOKING.

>game, personality, charisma
Oh, didn't read this. Pointless taking you seriously at all. If you ACTUALLY believe shit like "confidence" even EXISTS, you are a moron. Look at pic related. Which one is confident? LMAO.
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>>36643410
No ive always been a good talker with women. So once i got in shape i just got to fuck more quality trim.
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>>36643765
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>>36643765
(You)
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>>36643451

I am searching for a man with six scoops in his shaker bottle.
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I didnt start lifting for women. But basically everything else is accurate. Im so bad at talking to girls. My brain just shuts down.
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i like jacking off to my reflexion , that's why i workout.
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>>36643691

Kekkkk
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>>36643765
You forgot to mention HEIGHT, FACE and FRAME
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>>36643410
>Princess Bride Syndrome

i googled that and its really about gay marriage

op is a faggot (literally)
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>>36643585
>You're bad at attracting women because you have no experience attracting women.

no, youre just autistic. if you can hold a conversation with a guy and make funny jokes you can easily attract a female. girls are just dumber guys. if you can make them smile and laugh (with you, not at you), youre like 70% of the way there.
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>>36643410
deep man
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>>36643532
yeah, the way she's clothed didn't give it away already
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>>36643596
you hit the gym HARD while chad eats PIZZA
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I've noticed since I've been lifting that women like to grab my arms more and catcall me even so it definetly amped up my game . even my Ex got jelly when she saw me last with my ripped physique . She asked my if my dick missed its "old home" lol
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>>36643601
This.
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>>36643410
I shit you not friends this happened to me late last night yesterday

>be me, 18 y/o freshman in uni
>go to dining hall late at night alone (usually always go with friends but they had eaten)
>eating double grilled chicken sandwich at a table
>wearing a tight white T shirt but still insecure of gains because was a lifelong skelly
>random qt walks up behind me and asks why I'm sitting alone, asks to bring group of friends
>j-just chilling eating some food. I-i usually have friends
>join casually in their conversations after they all sit down because thank God I'm not a complete autist
>she spills spaghetti multiple times in conversation
>finish food before they do and start walking away
>"hey where are you going? Come back!"
>"wanna go to formal??"
>mfw I turn around slowly and look at her
>say sure, her friends go berserk
>she asks for my number and I might be going to a college dance in a couple days with some completely random qt I literally just met

Is this making it??? Nothing like this has ever happened to me.
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>>36643765
>>36643596
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>>36643951
>be me
>ugly, skinny manlet
>always made everyone in class laugh or agree with me
>staceys too saying shit "oh anon you are the funniest guy around"

laughs means nothing
op is simply right, the most useful post in /fit/ since a while, it should be stickied because I'm tired of lifting feels thread
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>>36643515
R u me
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>>36643484
I have this same issue. Has anyone overcame it? It's happened to me in the past so ever since then I've been skeptical. I think it's because I don't see my value as a romantic partner.
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>>36643524
I'm not sure if your lying or not, but isn't sex with slightly slutty hot/fit girls worth it ?

Besides, maybe they're not even super shallow.
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>>36643563
The sad truth is that a cock sucking slut is going to dump you/cheat on you eventually. And then you'll wish you had jumped at those missed opportunities. It's only a matter of time...
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kek, I'm actually in step 3
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>>36643995
I never said that didnt add to it senpai. Great comment though.
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>>36643596
trying to hard to define a new whole level of shitposting
pic related,cya manlet
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>>36644029
Sounds like you're making it.

If it was me, I would think it's a prank desu because girls pulled that kind of shit on me in middle school.
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>>36644081
I doubt it. But if that ever happened, I would wait till her sister turns 16 and then fuck her brains out on a daily basis. Lol.

She's only 12 right now though and I'd be like 30 but I'll continue trening hard for that day lol
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>>36643524
>smith machine
>one dimensional
kekkekkek
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>>36643410
All I did was lift and it worked for me lol
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>>36643675
No way, how fat were you ?

Being a fat just doesn't turn women on.
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>>36643563
What's your cycle?
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>>36643601
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I'd honestly just tell u guys to start doing drugs
weed,xanax,vyvanse w/e u can get ur hands on
Maybe its just me but if the girl knows her drugs it's an easy lay for me. makes conversations flow easy
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>>36644114
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>>36643410
Well I have to practice social skills anyway. I have aspergers the real autism. The only way I can to talk to girls like this is if I'm super drunk or really high. I can't always be on a substance so it gets really difficult.
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>>36643765

>TOP 5 PERCENT
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>>36643451
Kek
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>>36643606
>tfw homeschooled through Highschool, about to go to college, and completely DYEL because of Crohn's Disease.
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>>36643410

Being good with women is a skill set.

gotta put in the work to get the results.

5x5 sets of approaches every other day nigger
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>>36644146
Currently trestolone and tren. 6 weeks to go until I go back to a cruise dose on the trestolone
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>>36644145
The beam balance scale at the YMCA is way more accurate than the shitty spring scale I have at home but right now I'm around 155-160lbs at 5'10" and >15%BF

having a decent sized donger turns women on though
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>>36644202
Senpai i hate to say this but you might be better off just an heroing desu.
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>>36644208

What's the point of that pic ? Even autistic bronies can get laid?
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>>36644229
Fuck no. I'm gonna make it if it kills me.
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>>36644237
Problem is my parents seem to have made it their life's goal to keep me from getting laid.
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>>36644237
Well thats a good attitude.Are you gonna start lifting at all? Are you autistic? Knowing these things is half the battle
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>>36644254

How do you parents hold you back from getting laid ? What a lame shit blame excuse
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>>36644260
I've been lifting for years but Crohn's keeps setting my weight back, making it damn difficult to gain weight. Right now I'm at 6'1 140 lbs. I am not autistic, I have an older brother with aspergers though. I was in what are called "co-op" classes through Highschool so I was with other students, just one day a week.
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>>36644270
When you're homeschooled and have a dad that works out of the home, as well as parents that demand you tell them everywhere you drive, it's pretty damn difficult to get laid.
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>>36644293
Skelly bro. Good luck man.
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>>36644230

yup

shes perfect and hes not what most of you fafggots would think would land a chick like that.

Women care about how you make them feel a lot more than how you look (but if you look fucking yolked then you will make her feel more feminine/safe)

people just need to get good at making women comfortable in their presence while being able to flirt with them
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>>36644313
>Women care about how you make them feel a lot more than how you look
You are insane if you think this is true
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>>36644308
The good and bad news is my small frame. I look more like I weigh 155 or so. I do have facial aesthetics though I've been straight up approached by 8s before at the mall.
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How does fit feel about nipple piercings?

I've been dating a girl for a year now, when we met she had nipple piercings in and a few months into hooking up I said how nipple piercings are indicative of a slut.

Sje took them out shortly after (I didn't tell her to). Ironically we started to actually "date" after that. Not sure of the correlation there. What does /fit/ think? Are all girls with nipple piercings sluts?
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>>36644321

lol and you have no experience with women whatsoever if you believe your own statement
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>>36643532
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>>36644335
I would tell her to put 'em in when she's feeling slutty in the bedroom. You know, one of those "I'm a slut, but only 4u" type of deals
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>>36643585
Don't listen to them anon. You're speaking the truth here.
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>>36644331
Ya youve got height going for you, putting on weight will definitely help though.
>>36644343
And youre a complete cuckold if you believe yours. Women care about face and body first and foremost, thats why "bad boys" with nothing going for them at all other than looks will steal your girl faggot.
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>>36644321

Its true. humans are mammals and every species of mammal on the planet has differing gender attraction strategies.

if you think that women are attracted to men 100% the same way you are attracted to women you may aswell just go to church and become a christfag because thats your level of logic.
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>>36644208
>>36644313
that's the retarded russian streamer who's always epic raging isn't it? the russian helenalive/kaceytron basically?

she's an awful person and she's dating some autist because she also is an autist. if her life didn't consist of playing video games 18 hours a day, she'd be dating someone better too.
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>>36644360
Like I said. I'm gonna make it if it kills me. Even if it takes me 2 years to get to a remotely aesthetic physique
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>>36644335
i really really like nipple piercing on pale girls with relatively big tits, idk why but it makes my dick diamonds
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>>36644361
Dude i have no idea what you are trying to say. What i am saying is women love a tall guy with a good face and body over some manlet who listens to their problems, thats called the friendzone.
>>36644371
Good on you man
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>>36644313

>shes perfect

lmao
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>>36644377
>idk why but it makes my dick diamonds
Cause its fucking hot obviously
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>>36643951
>>36644063
I wouldnt say laugh means nothing. back in school when I was overweight and didnt look good I got one of the hottest girls because I was funny and nice (atleast those were the only 2 redeeming qualitys I could think off at the time).

Sadly now some years later I have a good body, look better, dress better but somehow cant get a gf now. I think it was because back then I never thought I could ever get a hot girl to be my gf so I just treated them like every other person on the planet and didnt give a fuck because in my mind the battle was already lost. turns out not treating them like trophies or perfect beings was the best course of action. sadly now that I am looking good enough I am always calculating in my head what to say instead of being myself, I hope I can fix that one day and just not give a fuck anymore.
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>>36644079
maybe for a year or two.
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>>36644118
Happened to me too. Completely shut myself off to women after this. Getting laid isn't really a goal of mine though desu. I fear wasting my 20's more than getting laid which is I think only part of your youth.
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>>36643451
You seem like a cool guy, don't go to your parents house tomorrow.
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>>36644029
How do you double grill a chicken?
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Even if you're a 10/10 guy you still have to do everything. I wish someone told me this when I was growing up.
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>>36644380

they also love a manlet with confidence charm and maturity over some tall guy with muscles and a good face who listens to their problems.
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>>36644360
When I was hospitalized for Crohn's two years ago, I weighed 108 pounds.
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>>36644303
ex-homeschool brah here
you're gonna have to "rebel' for some pussy only way. Unless you're parents start letting u meet up with other homeschoolers like my sis does now.
you're parents will fuck u over.
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>>36644428
never change /fit/
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>>36644439
I'm going off to college in four months, I'm not concerned about losing my virginity until then desu. Would rather get /fit/
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I'm not sure I agree OP.

Being aesthetic is, in essence, a decision to not LOSE value over your appearance. its no coincidence that things like discipline, health, determination/ etc. all factor into being "fit" but also good to develop character wise.

I was running the other day (near a river) and saw maybe 10 rednecks going to fish, all of them pudgy, lazy looking, beer gut "men" that you can tell sit on their ass and drink beer and eat cheeseburgers.

being fit or aesthetic is a means of being comfortable in your own skin. you want to project the right message, to appear virile, energetic, capable, ambitious. you need to be on the "edge" if you are to impress. things like apathy and laziness do not belong to this age.

its all evolution. female response is only part of the equation

I want to be at the "top of my game". I want to be a machine, an animal, godly radiance from perfection of self mastery
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>>36644079

there is fucking then there is making love

The average cutie who cleans up well is far better than the slut who has been told her whole life she is gorgeous and people should bow before her for it. Hot girls are garbage in bed, they expect you to do everything. Avg qties fuck like they don't want you to ever leave.
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>>36644431
Bro they might be equal but id still give the edge to the tall good looking guy nearly every time.
>>36644433
Wow man thats crazy
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>>36643589
>most of us
Typical stupid fucking hick Rambo wanna be can't read
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Tfw all I want is good pussy.

I get in shape, dress nice, read, improve myself, make money, am usally happy and outgoing

Tfw women now just assume I'm gay.

Fuck you, fuck everyone and fuck your mother too.
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>>36644211
Doesn't trestolene make you infertile? Never knew people were taking it to make gains, I guess I haven't been around in a while. What side effects have you had overall?
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>>36644313
You are a completely oblivious cuck....I have slept with girls like this that have average nice guy boyfriends. They do like attention abd kindness that comes with dating avg niceguy however they still want to fuck attractive guys just like guys want to fuck attractive girls. Eventually, she will blow Chad from work, etc. In my situation, I happened to be Chad
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>be naturally good with girls
>lift to be more athletic
>suddenly girls flock to me
lamo at ur life
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>>36644456
you're not gonna get /fit/ in four months and trust me majority of the ppl at ur college will be bigger than you.

Start Social skills
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>>36643844
lol
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>>36644486
I'm well aware of this. But I'm gonna spend my time getting my Crohn's under control and getting at least normal looking. My social skills aren't crap, I just have nowhere to use them because
>homeschooled
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>>36644360
Dude you're straight contradicting yourself.

> thats why "bad boys" with nothing going for them at all other than looks will steal your girl faggot

Notice how you said "bad boys" will steal your girl. Not "models." Not "bodybuilders." Being a "bad boy" is mostly PERSONALITY-BASED.
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>>36643559
Nobody said they couldn't
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>>36643601
I was the same way. Then I asked a girl out cause I had oneitis.

Now I'm not only passive, but also single and I often hate myself :^)
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>>36644526
Dude i put it in quotes for a reason, its what girls say. And we all knwo what we mean, very good looking and gets with lots of chicks. When they say that they have never spoken about the manlet you are. Btw you were describing someone listening to her problems and crap, not what i was saying at all.
>>36644535
True
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>>36644464
>obvious virgin giving advice about sex on a Mandarin animation forum
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>>36644029
HE MADE IT!!! HE MADE IT!!!!!!
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>>36644480
They hoped to use it as a male contraceptive because it shuts you down much, much harder than testosterone. I forget the figure. Something like 17 times faster or another number crazy like that. But once you come off it, natural production and fertility come back just like with any testosterone suppressing compound (I hope lol)

No bad sides except much higher estrogen conversion. Having to run a AI every day even on a cruise dose.

Apart from that, it's all the good effects of test magnified. Libido, feel good factor, energy, concentration, gains etc.

Would totally recommend it.
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>tfw kissless 22 year old virgin
>People love talking to me, I make people laugh and I have great conversations with people all the time
>Ugly as fuck
>Can't outlift shitty diet and self-loathing
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>>36644556
>>36644526
see >>36643693
> All of us fucking know that one average as fuck looking guy who always picks up women. No he's not good looking or tall, and doesn't somehow stink of money. He's just really good with women skill-wise (read: game, personality, charisma, etc.)

Pls explain if it's all about the face/body/height
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>>36643524
this though. I'll compromise on looks for someone I can get along with
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>>36644567

I have been found out :^)

also
>one punch meme
lmao fucking casual
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>>36644590
Thats called cherry picking, yes we all have one friend like that. But tell me which is easier, that same personality and confidence in a 5'5 fat frame or in a 6'1 body with good face? We all know the answer.
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>>36644387
Lol. perfect response to this kids autism
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>>36643483
Future fatty though
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>>36644603
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>>36644633
I want her now though
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>>36644063
A class clown is in no way attractive.
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>>36644618
So basically, you're saying that I'm right. Because all along you've been saying that it's only about the face/height, that game/personality/confidence don't exist. I'm not saying that they matter more than face/height, but they do play a large role.

And the thing is, you can't change face/height, but you can improve game/personality/confidence, i.e. it's not a lost cause.
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well yeah. but why not do all of that on top of learning how to talk to women.
and really hoping to ''attract'' someone is a female idea because it takes balls to approach someone and as a man you should probably be the one to do that.
on top of that, if you're the one being approached you just need to take what is being presented to you. kind of sucky when you could just make it awkward for a few years and get good at getting laid, which will be so much easier when you are swole because women will probably have a better first impression of you.

>>36644461
this dude got it.
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>>36644684
>Because all along you've been saying that it's only about the face/height
Wrong, i nerve said that at all. I said they are important most likely more so thatn personality i never said cinfidence didnt matter at all. The original post i responded to said that.
>Women care about how you make them feel a lot more than how you look
See, i was responding to that statement.
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>>36644575
>people love talking to me
>i make people laugh
>i have great conversations with people all the time

Think about any bad ass male movie character who can have the girl of your dreams

Does he make people laugh? No, or at least not as often as you do. Because being jolly isn't attractive.

Does he have great conversations? No, because great conversations require both people to be confident and comfortable. Women do not feel confident and comfortable talking to an attractive man they don't know well.

Do people love talking to him? No. They wish they could talk to him. But they don't get to do it often. It's a rare opportunity not to be missed.
You're doing it wrong. If it's not working for you, then you're probably coming across the same way camp homosexuals come across. And it doesn't work for straight people.
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>21 year old kv
>constantly made fun of omega male fat fuck wow playing eric cartman stereotype my entire life
>drop 150lbs
>now merely a 200lb fat fuck
>people try and talk to me
>get frustrated trying to figure out what their angle is, because no one could possibly just want to talk to me to talk to me
>try and get them to leave me alone before they hurt me
>occasionally a girl or a group will keep bothering me
>I get a little bit more social at first
>eventually find a reason to ditch them altogether, before they can hurt me
>they're only trying to be friends out of pity anyways, or are just doing it for laughs
>besides, if by the off chance someone actually did want to be friends with me, or a girl was interested in me, I wouldn't want to associate with them anyways, as they obviously have a terrible sense of character.
>don't they know I'm literal scum?

It's only gotten worse the more weight I've lost

and I still have another 30-50 lbs to go
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>>36643578
My sides.
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>>36644720
Okay my bad, I thought you were the other guy
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>>36643563
>And I know that I will never use this advantage to cheat on my gf. Because she is the one person who wanted me before I became aesthetic.

This is going to kill you one day, anon. Her love is as fleeting as morning breeze. Make sure not to marry and you'll survive it.
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>>36644727
>translating movies to real life

dude, the james bond persona doesn't work IRL. i've NEVER seen anyone pull it off, know why? it's boring as fuck. and women hate boring.
>so what do you do to get women?
>oh, i just stand in a corner, looking ice cold as fuck
>>36644575
learn how to make shit weird. and sexual.
really, giving you proper advice would take a while but you might want to look into ways to improve your social interactions on your own. the internet is full of them.
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>>36643596
Please leave this board, you're getting long in the tooth. Just go.
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roid you dumb fucks, you're all clearly low test and desperately need the boost
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>>36644770
All good, there is no doubt they are both important. Im just saying that other guy was heavily implying that you can look like shit and still have confidence and get chicks, might be possible but highly unlikely.
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>>36644796

I didn't say pretend to say james bond. I was talking more about the concept.

Girls are more easily influenced by movies than we are. They see that TYPE of man get girls in movies. Therefor it conditions them to think girls want that type of man (pre selection).

I was more just trying to tell him to not be the exact opposite of that.
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>>36643765
> Sure, Mark Zuckerberg could probably get loads of girls, but that's because THEY WANT HIS MONEY AND FAME, not HIM PERSONALLY. The ONLY way to have women lust after YOU rather than YOUR ITEMS, is to be GENETICALLY GOOD LOOKING.

That's how girls work, they can never love unconditionally. Whatever you currently have that attracts them at this moment is temporary, so is their attention. The moment it changes, they branch swing to the next one. She's never yours, it's just your turn, anon.
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>>36644825
you can.... I live in central florida around rednecks
they pull some hot country girls just by having a Ford-150 and working at a farm/construction

Bearmode/beer gut is all girls want over here
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>>36644825
Yeah definitely agree. My original point is that with a great face/height/body, all you have to do is not be autistic to pull girls. But also that if you're at least average looks/height/body, if you have an amazing personality/game, then you can pull hella hard too.
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>>36644863
ya but are the girls quality, actually hot? Are they smart and have jobs/school? We can all get trash friend.
>>36644875
Agreed friend
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>>36644063

>"OH anon you are the funniest guy around."

That's when you ask them out you fucking autistic idiot.

Do you think my 9/10 girlfriend fucks me every night because of my shitty looks and shitty body? I look like a 16 year old, yet I still have a sexy girl on my arm. It's because I can make her laugh, and I walk with actual self confidence. You should try it some time.

You faggots keep making these threads but you don't realize that girls do not give a shit about your bodies. It's a nice plus, but a charming normal guy will win over a ripped autistic guy, which is 95% of /fit/

Pic related, it's my girl.
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>>36644892
nigga she ain't a 9/10
fuck outta here
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It's not that girls don't care about bodies. It's that girls as a whole have such a wide spectrum for body preference. An "attractive" body in women's eyes could range anywhere from hungry skelly, to ottermode, to athletic mode. Whereas above average looks (defined and not narrow jawline, hollow cheeks) and above average height (6' to 6'3") are pretty rigid.

Have you considered that it's not that your body doesn't matter to your girlfriend but that she simply likes your shitty body more than an athletic body? I know it's a lot of you guys to realize girls have different preferences, but it especially rings true for men's bodies.
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>>36644892
>protruding mouth
>chipmunk cheeks
>large forehead
>generic white middle class girl thigh tattoo
Yeah faggot you hit the lottery hahaha she's like not ugly but she is not a 5/5. I'd say a um, 3/5, average.
Kinda proves the whole "BUT I AM TALK GUD" point wrong. Aesthetics tend to match aesthetics in relationships. You are under the impressions she's a 9 but in reality you consider her to be that because you realized that she's probably the best you could do with your looks.
BTW nice lighting, the picture almost makes her look above average!
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>>36644904
It's okay to be gay, friendo.
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>>36644841
it might be good advice but to actually pull off being the ''quiet/mysterious/serious'' guy you need a lot of fucking conviction that you actually are that guy. might not work for someone who has never behaved like that.
the only people who might naturally get that vibe are probably rich as fuck and that shouldn't be a prequisite for getting laid.

really, if the dude is already good at talking to people he might not be missing that much to get to where he wants to be. might need to learn how to get a girl to ditch her friends, maybe how to get physical with her or maybe just how to stop fucking around and let the girl feel that he wants some pussy.
all PUA ideas but so what. it's not like our daddies taught us like they were supposed to.
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>>36644892
I'm >>36644063 and I never asked them out
>>36644682 I wasn't a class clown, but either way you are right
make them laugh is useful if you got other factors, they can me height, muscles, face, charisma, status, money and even if it's a buzzword nowadays, confidence
of course I don't said you have to get them all
stacey of before ended up with a retard skinny and tall as much as her with a receding chin only because he was pretty famous in kikebook due to a retarded video he did who got viral in my little town
also he was the oldest male in class and had a big large circle and had the balls to approach her from the beginning
OP is totally right, although is important to improve yourself you have to make your move first
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>9/10

That girl is like a 6 max, bro.
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>>36644954

Hahaha. You're trying very hard there friend.

I think somebody may be upset that charm wins over looks.
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>>36644892
don't ever post pics of your girl on here ever again.

i've never seen that turn into compliments.
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>>36643601
This is me
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>>36645097

It's okay, I have actual security in my girlfriend and myself, I don't get validation from a bunch of autistic faggots who cannot seem to get laid but still have blunt opinions about my girlfriend and my ability to get laid.

It's sad if you really think about it.
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>>36645164
I personally think your girlfriend is kinda cute, not a 9/10, but cute.

Still, the fact that you're posting her on a siberian basket-weaving forum reeks of you seeking validation [from autistic faggots].
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>>36643410
I never had any trouble with women before getting fit, if anything when I started to get fit I started to get even more insecure about myself. Before I had no fucks to give about my body or appearance, afterwards I analyzed every little thing.
>t-thanks /fit/...

Been at it 7 years now. Went through various phases, mental and physical instability, snap city trips, and other such things, and finally feel like I've gotten an edge on this whole life thing.

When you feel like you've made it, you've made it. But you have to stub a lot of toes along the way, and force yourself to grow out of your shell.
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>>36643483
>>36643523
>>36643532
my fuckin niggas. I wouldn't date her but I would hit until my dick falls off
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>>36645164
there is confidence and there is ignorance.
i'm gravitating towards the seconds for you right now.

i'm just saying, i've posted pics of my dick on here but i still wouldn't post any gf pics on here. nothing good could possibly come of it, 4chan as a whole is just much too negative about women for that.
and that is not because i care about foreign opinions or if my gf is objectively beautiful.
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>>36645088
Everyone who responded to that cringy post thinks your girlfriend is run of the mill. You're also run of the mill, or else she wouldn't be dating you. Do you really think charm and game make a big difference? As long as you look good to someone all you gotta do is basically not act autistic. Congrats bro, you aren't retarded.
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>>36644982
Can you give me precise advice how to act/talk so I'm more attractive? I'm very playful/jokish around people
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>Be virgin
>Finally get smoking hot GF
>She has had sex with 5 people in the past
>Feel insecure because I haven't had sex with anyone else
>Ruin the relationship because I'm an insecure beta male

Why /fit/
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>>36644081
>And then you'll wish you had jumped at those missed opportunities.
he can just do that the second he is single again, lol
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>>36645254
Hence the advise given to you about tough guys in movies.

You don't need to "be james bond". But you also need to not be the exact opposite... Just make less jokes. Find things less funny. Be serious to be taken seriously.
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>>36645254
i don't really think i'm in a position right now where i could give you competent advice, i'm pretty much just figuring this stuff out by trying various things myself.

you might need to familiarize yourself with how pickup works. not that you really need to approach random women in public or anything but a lot of the knowledge that you can find there is applicable to every social interaction.

really the extent of what you might need to learn could boil down to something as simple as ''take a step back, get the girl by herself, try to make the conversation a bit sexual, be a little more dickish''. find it out for yourself.
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>>36645263

dude, just fuck her. what a fucking idiot.
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>live in small town
>be tiny, have high pitched voice, and unattractive
>picked on everyday until graduating.
>never had friends, went to parties or kissed any girls
>start working out summer before last year of high school
>start getting into fashion and improving self image
>graduate
>move to city
>sleep with 20 women in 2 months
>get constant compliments in clubs, at work, or even walking outside sometimes
>3 years later
>not used to this and always feel suspicious of beautiful women who talk to me
>avoid social situations because I don't fit in with normal people
>now just drift from relationship to relationship while never really being able to attach emotionally to any of them

I also have no friends and the only socialization I get is from work. I feel so close to making it but I cant connect with anyone. I feel like im not even human sometimes. Been thinking about seeing a shrink for months now.
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>>36644415
is that motherfucking van darkholme?
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>>36643585
> nothing inherently wrong with us
> is autismo
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>>36644892
She's like a 7/10 at most

but her feet are 10/10
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>>36643410
I didn't start working out for chicks though

I started working out to prepare myself for ROTC in college, which then lead me to prepare myself for basic training this summer.

what also motivated me was to become stronger than a friend that beat the shit out of me so that one day I will have my revenge

Becoming sexy was a pleasant side effect, but it was never the intended goal. That being said, I still do have "princess bride syndrome" and I was never good with girls. My cocoon mode last summer didnt help.
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>>36643755
Hearty kek
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>>36644892
bro i agree with your post but I got bad news for you son....
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How about being a manlet with a good face, a big D and a broad frame? I'm just lacking fucking 4 inches in height :(
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>>36644029
cambridge ?
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>>36645563
You do know there are a large number of girls between 5'0 - 5'4 right? It's a common height for girls and you'd be bigger than them...
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>>36643585
You should just fuck ugly chicks OP. It's easy and works as good practice.
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>>36643410
Install tinder today OP. Start practicing.
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>>36645622
Nope. Florida
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>>36644029

Brah you fucking made it.
You didnt have to approach a girl.

A group of girls approached YOU and asked for your number.

Congratz m8, you ascended past the

>tfw no gf

club.
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>>36644394

lmao this is so me anon.

back in the days i didnt even think about chasing girls or asking them out.

And now when im talking to a girl all i can think about is how do i make her to allow me jackhammering her ass.
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More like
>start lifting for girls (don't lie; most of us did)
>focus on lifting and getting aesthetic
>focus on other forms of self-improvement
>don't practice attracting women while on the path on aesthetics
>just worry about becoming a better person
>stop caring about attracting women
>enjoy life so much more
>wind up attracting women
>do the Heisman on them unless they're super high quality
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>>36643410
that green was me except add 1 extra line
>give up and revert to old fat ways gain 20lbs
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>>36643563

You fucking made it anon. You actually fucking made it, that was a nice story and you sound like an awsome fucking guy.

10/10 would hang out with you.
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>>36643868
Here I was thinking I was the only one. You ever race yourself to see who can finish first?
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>>36645204
>>36643483
>>36643995
Holy shit I actually know this girl. She's an even bigger whore than you can possibly imagine. Literally fucks a different random guy every night she goes out. Know for a fact from a friend who did fuck her that she has herpes. I'd still probably hit it tho, fine as fuck
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>>36646489
And in case you don't believe thats her
https://www.instagram.com/p/8Kx3fvhskR/?taken-by=alliejmc
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>>36646489
thanks anon, appreciate it, any stories?
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the more fit you get, the less you care about girls

this is 100% true, if you are training to better yourself and not just for pussy.
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>>36646535
Honestly I've only ever spoken to her a couple times and most of those times I was pretty coked out but I guess I can greentext some stories that I've heard about her
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>>36646489
>>36646506
damn, based anon
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>>36646620
yes pls
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>>36643410
Coming from a guy that was fat, ugly and shy, made it to aesthetic and dropped down to skelly again.

Being /fit/ is all you need to get girls. I consider myself very ugly but once I reached a certain level of gains, girls just constantly hit on me. I didn't have to do anything to get girls in clubs. Now that I am a skelly, no girl notices me and whenever I talk to them I can feel the disinterest.

Girls just wanna fuck too mate. And we pretty much only care about the looks when we consider if someone is fuck-worthy.
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>>36643596
>A handsome FACE, a tall HEIGHT, and good BONE structure

I got that but i'm still an holocoaust tier body type. Don't discourage my interest in self improvement cause youre an ugly faggot
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>>36644029
I hate you and your social gains

[spoiler]jk good job mang, I'm still jelly tho[/spoiler]
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>>36643596
causes subhuman butthurt everytime. keep it up
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>>36646252
Would hang out with you too brah. We're all gonna make it.
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>>36646620
please do
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>>36644029

See if that was me in that situation i would've thought prank/setup/bait ect and would have just 180'd outta there
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>>36646620
>sloot is a student a some community college
>goes out and partys with her friends at the local state college
>one of her friends know some guy in my frat from high school
>her squad starts coming to our house pretty often
>one weekend they come over during a kickback
>been sleeping with one of her friends around this time so I see her come in
with her
>a few hours later walk into the bathroom
>hear voices and shit coming from a stall
>its the sloot and some other whores doing blow
>coke is a pretty big thing on campus atm(I had already taken a few lines that night)
>was pretty weirded out cause they could have done it in a room since most people are doing it
>turn 180 moonwalk out
>later chillin with a few buddies at the end of the night
>talking and laughing bout what shit went down
>sloot apparently slept with one of our bros
>dude is ugly as shit(still a cool guy tho)
>pretty much confirms her as just looking for dick
>fast forward to a couple nights later
>sloot is back at our house
>hanging out in one of my friends room, smoking weed
>starts making moves on him
>goes to sit on his bed next to him
>starts moving closer
>obviously tryna fuck
>everyone eventually leaves to let him smash
>asks her if she fucked the ugly dude
>she says yeah
>tells her he's not interested then and leaves

Dude's a much better man than I. I've only got one other story I can think of right now, I'll post it in a minute
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>get fit
>girls try to talk to me

y-you too
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>California

Tfw you will never smash this kind of sloot
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>get swole
>stretch marks

REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>36643596
I love this pasta. Good job, man.
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>>36643410
Nope. If anything I think I have Shonen protagonist/Goku syndrome.

>Got into fitness and self improvement young, like at 12 or 13
>Spend all of my time doing track, studying, or working out. Never go to parties.
>It has paid off in some ways. I am enrolled in a good law school, I'm very fit, etc.
>That said I am still a kissless virgin in my mid 20s. No idea how to even interact with women, since they weren't even on my radar for so long

I honestly am not certain if women flirt with me or if they are just being friendly sometimes.
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WHAT THE FUCK I THOUGHT THAT NAME LOOKED FAMILIAR

I went to school with this girl wtf
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>>36646939
>>36646852
>>36646688
>sloot comes to some party at our house one night
>lives kinda far away(like 20 minutes)
>end of the night she goes with some of her friends and a bro to their apartment to stay there
>theyre all pretty faded at this point
>bro is gonna have them sleep on the couch and shit
>bro's roommate is sleeping
>sloot immediately asks her friends if they think he has a gf
>they're all like seriously
>they can't even
>sloot doesn't care and just hops into bed with this random ass dude she's never met
>like any straight guy he doesn't complain
>ends up fucking her in the bathroom

So yeah she's a total whore. If you guys want to know anything else just ask
>>36646959
Move here bruh its hella nice
>>36647096
Haha small fucking world
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>>36643410
Honest question:

How good looking/attractive do i need to be as a male to fuck sluts like these in OPs pic on a festival
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>>36647162
read>>36647150
>>36646939
>>36646489
>>36646506
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>>36647150
do you know what high school she went to? Most of our mutual friends are from hs
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>>36643596
HOW do I get the IMPRESSION that you are from AUSTRALIA
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I actually do get grils flocking to me now, but they're all average at best, and my standards have gone up much higher than they should, so I never get on any of them.

>>36643451
lmao
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>>36644029
you just made it lad
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>>36647216
because he is a shitposter.
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>>36643410
This is me.

>tfw hot girl tells me to my face that I'm hot and that her roommate thinks I'm hot as well
>have no idea how to proceed with this information

I'm so fucking retarded
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>>36647194
I want to say St. Francis cause that's where my friend who knew her from hs went but Im not positve
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>>36647260
damn, all the mutual friends are either other super sloots I knew from hs or my bro friends
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>>36643410
>be me
>terrible with women and socializing in general
>start lifting in college
>get bachelors degree
>have been lifting the whole time
>people call me big guy now, I look breddy good but I still think im DYEL
>have been living a balanced life since the beginning of college
>now i'm fit and aesthetic and i'm also in a good career and i know how to get along with people
don't worry OP there will be a cure soon
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>>36647259
start making out with one of them
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>>36647259
do whatever you want. you're not obligated to flirt with every girl that compliments you. going out for the night isn't a competition
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>get fit

>girls my age only want to get married

guess im staying single forever then
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>>36647259
also women expect men to be as big of sluts as they are, so they expect you to play the part of chad as soon as they let the cat out of the bag.
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>>36643548
>social skills can't be learned

Dumb as a motherfucker.
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>>36647162
Given that they'll probably be rolling their faces off, not very.
Just don't be that guy at raves who goes around sober, looking forfucked up girls to rape.
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Give it to me straight, anons. I've been chunky my whole life. 22 yo kv, whatever. I know this one girl who lives a state away who has always been super into me. She used to be pretty fat, like obvious fph thread bait, but she's slimmed down to a respectable size (compared to what she was at least) and we've been friends online for almost 6 years now. Over the past few months I've been really losing weight and getting in much better shape overall. I got hit on for the first time in my life 2 nights ago and I completely shot her down. She was really fat though (Why are the fat girls the ones with the most confidence?). But its got me thinking. I'm at that point where I'm sought after, to an extent, by people immediately accessible. But I know the longtime friend likes me a lot, I might even say she loves me. Would it be sweet or underhanded if I made the drive to go fuck her, to let us be each other's first fuck, just so I can come back here and not feel bad about trying to hook up with local girls? She lives with her super old fashioned parents and I haven't had my car very long (hence why I haven't done it sooner). I know I'm being a total faggot autist about this but I've got nobody to talk to about it so here I am.
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>>36643563
>roiding for this
You did well, anon. Bravo.

I wish I can get a girl who loves me too.
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>>36644541
This is why i have stoppet trying. Girls regurarly flirt harmlessly with me, and there are a few girls who despise me for not hitting on them, but every fucking time i actually try, i fuck up so tremendously and i just hope i die for the next couple of days. However, when i dont try, just laugh and play along with them, but don't actually get anywhere it feels decently good and i get a confidence boost. From a risk/reward perspective i average better total feels by not trying, considering the risk of me fucking up by trying is 100%, considering my previous attempts. n=20 at least.
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>>36647339
Well I slept over the first one's place when the roommate wasn't home. We were too drunk to have sex though.

>>36647328
>>36647326
Yeah, I'm just not very good at playing the chad unless I'm in the right kind of mood, which doesn't happen very often.

I'm pretty sure I have some fear/anxiety about having my advances rejected so I end up not doing anything most of the time. Also, advances usually occur when I'm drunk, rather than sober. I think too much when I'm sober so I end up overthinking things and think ahead to the consequences of actions I have yet to take.
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>>36647390
everyone is afraid of rejection when they start out. Get rejected a few times, get hurt by it, learn to laugh it off and take yourself less seriously, and then keep taking risks. Live more in the moment, less in the future/your head.
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>this
Recovering fatty here and thought the same thing, then realized I need to work on talking to girls as well.
Well on my way to making it but as of today just started talking to more and more women.
>tfw I got a qt from my class number today.
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>>36647150
I can imagine coke is pretty shit tier in the US? Or do you have some mexican hombres?
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>>36644428
flip it over
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>>36647368
Breh as long as such a trip would not negatively affect your daily life (missing work or school, job prospects, being caught, having it blow up in your face), do it. Tell this girl what you just said. Life is very short, you are only young once. Do what you can to be happy.
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>>36644892
>9/10
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