>started working out a year ago
>already looking way better and bulkier
>notice I'm going to the barber to groom my hair less and less
>people start asking if I'm going bald
Why would this happen /fit/? Why would working out make you go bald or at least make your hair grow in a much slower rate? Currently I'm still 96% on pic related, but I used to have a lot more hair before working out.
because
>muh testosterones
buzz head and grow beard, faggot
>>36636550
I can't. It just doesn't grow. The best I can do is a shallow goatee, but it has always been like this.
>>36636535>>36636535
>tfw you looked this same picture up today because you're suffering from stage III MPB
>>36637373
There's a common misconception about the Norwood Scale. They're not stages, but patterns. If you legitimately only have a III pattern, then that's all the hair you will ever lose. The pattern actually identifies the maximum possible extent of your balding. This can only be determined by a scalp examination to identify where miniaturization is happening.
You can still have almost a full head of hair and be a Norwood VII pattern. I've seen people like this. You can see exactly where their hairline will be in 40 years, but they're still pretty thick on top.
get on finasteride
>>36636535
>26 years old
>notice I'm going bald, hairline receding more and more
>slowly come to terms with the fact that I'll lose my mane eventually
>one day, pull my hair back and realize my forehead is twice as big as it used to be
>decide today is the day (literally just now)
>shave it all off on a whim
Well. It looks like utter shit; I guess I didn't have the facial structure to pull it off after all. But rubbing my smooth head feels amazing, so it kinda cancels out. No fucks given.
>>36637986
What guard?
>>36638127
Down to the scalp, not a bit of hair left.
M I N O X I D I L
Creatine strikes again!
When will they learn?
>>36638172
That's what I do. I've been Norwood III since I was 18; hairline hasn't changed in 7 years. Chrome dome, own it man.
Tell me /fit/: widows peak or beginning of MPB?
My hair grows insanely fast, but I have no idea if that correlates to hair Health.
>>36638450
The front still looks thick, so I'd keep it for now. When it starts getting sparse, it's chop chop time.
>>36638550
Defs don't have the skullshape to go chop chop mode. I'll keep an eye on it. People tell me it's my natural hairline, but if it moves I'll hold on to the rest for dear life with products I heard are effective.
>>36638450
>but I have no idea if that correlates to hair Health.
Do you masturbate a lot?
if youre balding please do your possible sons a favor and dont have any kids.
>>36638450
Has it changed much lately, if not then it's just your hairline
>tfw grow really patchy shit-tier facial hair
>will most definitely go bald, already suspect I am by looking at the top right edges of the hair
>tiny parts of it are thin, haven't noticed much else, have only just noticed so haven't had a chance to compare a change
>can't tell if just paranoid or genuinely concerned
>can't grow a thick beard to offset it
I am doomed for Doctor Evil mode boys. Why even lift...
>>36637683
Absolute poison. Go read some hair loss forums before you promote this
>>36638291
Was on that stuff for a week. Never again. Black circles under eyes. Face extremely puffy. Brain fog. Also it literally destroys your collagen. It will age you
>>36640485
doesn't 100% work that way man, my father is 51 and probably has better hair than me and i'm only 24..
>>36641572
Not everyone has shitty genes like you do brah. Millions of guys have used it since it came out in the '80s, and only like 1:10 of them have shitty side effects like you did (and that's because of SHITTY GENES)
>tl;dr: tell your genes to git gud
>>36636535
>III vertex here
Kill me now bros.
>>36642346
I'd tell you to get on rogaine/minoxidil
but then some shitty-gene-cuck might come in and tell you that it made him turn black and get cocksucker's cheeks so "DONT DO IT BRAH JUST SAVE UR MONEY TIL U CAN BUY HAIRPLUGS"
the more testosterone you produce the more likely it is you will produce DHT
"Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) is made from testosterone by an enzyme called 5a reductase. It can also be made from DHEA, a hormone more common in women. DHT is found in skin, hair follicles, and in the prostate. The actions of DHT and the sensitivity of hair follicles to DHT is what causes hair loss"
get some dht inhibiting shampoo
>>36642292
Only 1 in 10. Hah. Do some research shill. Minoxidil destroys collagen as its main method of action, not a side effect
>>36642691
>Do some research
You sound just like those dumb nigs who say "WE WUZ KANGS AND QUEENZ AN SHEEIT"
Everytime someone asks them to provide ANY kind of source or proof, they just reflexively default to "do some research"
>>36642404
I have that, but it's not going to do much. Minoxidil is effective but the side effects are really bad. Finisteride is not worth the risk imo
>>36642715
You never asked for proof and you stated that minoxidil side effects are caused by shitty genes. You're just another useless commentard that advocates shit he's never used or has any knowledge of
>>36642841
Still not seeing any proofs, fagtron cuckboy
>>36642851
Your not worth the effort, child
>>36636535
Correlation does not necessarily mean causation, OP
>>36642880
I win.
>>36642930
Bahaha. Congratulations kid. Run down stairs and tell your mum you won am Internet argument on 4 chan. I'm sure she'll be very proud of you/ relieved you aren't at risk of killing yourself today
>>36638336
This guy gets it. Creatine can cause rapid hair loss.
>>36643012
Why do you keep calling me a "kid"? is it because you can't give me any proofs? If those side effects are so common and well documented, you'd have been able to post AT LEAST one link by now. Are you mad because you're a salty little baldcuck who'd rather make excuses than fix his own problems?
I still win, lel
>>36643087
So do you admit that you're full of shit and can't provide any evidence?
>inb4 anon deflects some more after being asked for the 5th time to provide some kind of source to back up his claims
>>36643101
Not my job to back up claims. If you decide you want to take meds then do research. I've got lipogaine minoxidil and ketoconzole shampoo. And the minoxidil was fucking me up even after I assessed the pros and cons. I decided against ever starting Finisteride because the risks and sides are terrifying. But as for you I can only imagine your level of maturity. winning an Internet argument, what a sad existence you must lead
>>36643187
>make claim
>It's not my job to educate you!
wew
Did you learn that one in your Critical Theory class, Patchouli?
>>36640485
Balding comes from the mother's side, you mong.
>>36643216
Didn't you say that sides are only experienced in 1 in 10 even though millions have used it without issue since the 80s!???
>Training so hard you go bald
>finally dropped all the weight from my fatty years
>been lifting for two years, body is in great shape
>face gains through the roof
>finally learned how to dress like a man
and
>losing my hair rapidly
FUCK
U
C
K
>tfw certain I'm balding
>tfw friends and family tells me I'm delusional
YOU HAVE RUINED ME, /fit/. First body dysmorphia and now this shit.
If lifting or taking creatine makes you go bald, stop doing so immediately. NOTHING you could possibly gain from years of lifting is as valuable as your hair. NOTHING. Ignore people saying shit like "jus buzz it brah!" and "girls prefer muscles dude!". NO. Do ANYTHING you can to keep your hair.
just go for Mr Lahey mode
>>36643187
Both of you are very immature lol
>>36643600
>>36643527
Losing my hair slowly since 26. Its only really noticeable now at 32. Yes people treat you differently, girls don't like it at all as it ages you so much. However having a sexy body still gets me laid. No question. Finisteride is the only thing that is basically guaranteed to keep hair, but the risks are scary and not that uncommon
>>36643637
I've been losing it since I was 20. It sucks I have a nice body but I pretty much haven't had sex for 3 years my hairline looks like shit and I have no confidence anymore
I take minox and I tried finasteride but it made me feel like shit so I stopped. When will they come out with an actual cure for balding???
>>36644144
When they fix ugly, stupid and eradicate partisan politics.
>>36644144
That's harsh bro. 3 years without sex is insane. Hair transplants work but are expensive and they won't stop hair loss in non transplanted hairs. My only advice: get fit and get socialising.
>>36636535
Because you're a year older...
Would you rather be flabby & balding, or swole & balding?
>>36644407
I just feel like nobody takes me seriously. I don't come across as super beta I think, I look like I lift and do MMA but I'm only 5'8 so I think people don't notice me even when I try to be sociable. My sense id humor is also different
I had lots of friends in undergrad so far in grad school I just keep failing
>>36644578
I'm 5 8 too bro. Sounds like your confidence issues stem from lack of success but I don't know.
>>36641433
>absolute poison
>go read exaggerated horror stories from anonymous desperate hypochondriacs
I've been on it for over a year with no issues. Go read the dozens of independent clinical trials and look at the side effect profile.
Finasteride is also used to treat benign prostatic hyperplasia (enlarged prostate) which is one of the most common conditions that afflict older men. How come so many thousands of man can take the drug without problems anon?
>>36643637
>the risks are not that uncommon
you only hear from people who have something to complain about. All the other dudes popping fin with success and without problems aren't spending their lives online complaining about how many side effects they're not having.
>>36646731
You realise I was on it for a month. Lipogaine minoxidil and the big 3 keto shampoo. Hair shredding by day 3, face puffy and eyes black by week 1. Call me a hypochondriac all you want, but just as I started taking pics of my fitness progress I also took pics of my face and hair. The worse I felt the more o logged into it, minoxidil destroys collagen. That's not a side effect that its method of action.
>>36646817
I'm talking about finasteride, not minoxidil (although I use that too).
>>36646853
Never tried it. Risks too high. Most of the issues stem from when people want to get off it. Also for what is worth its the only drug I know that changes a hormone level to 20% of what it was, and claims it's perfectly safe
is minoxidil safe? i haven been suing it to grow a beard for the past months and it actually works
Daily reminder that even if your hair is basically nonexistent, you can still marry a qt latina chick.
Pic related, a friend of a friend
>>36647144
nice arranged marriage.
>have full head of hair
>uncles are all bald or balding
>>36647030
It's not recommended for guys under 18 because dihydrotestosterone (DHT) is important for puberty. After that, it's pretty useless and just makes you bald and makes your prostate big. Finasteride inhibits production of DHT which results in increases in testosterone and estrogen a little bit. Most people don't have side effects, and of the ones that do, they're minor and go away. I can't say with absolute certainty some unlucky dudes out there DON'T have severe side effects, but the clinical trials indicate otherwise.
Go look up the side effect profile of finasteride, then compare it to drugs like tylenol or advil or ibuprofin or whatever other OTC drug you can get.
>dad balding since early 20s
>always kind of figured I wouldn't go bald because I was always told I had thick hair since I was a child
>get pretty big widow's peak from the age of 16
>still not too concerned
but then
>be 18 looking at old pic of dad at 18
>suddenly notice he had a massively thick head of hair
>suddenly that sinking feeling knowing I'll most likely start balding soon after all
fast forward to age 34
>still have a luscious and full head of hair despite the widow's peak (which hasn't changed since age 17)
Thanks for the hair genetics mom, you bipolar borderline psycho cunt.
>>36647249
I just turned 32. I've done a lot of reading on this. Clinical trials are small sample size compared to the thousands of men who are on it and who have serious sides. Hell there's a fucking charity set up for men who have been permanently fucked from fun. There's even confirmed suicides. Not worth the risk imo
>>36647497
10,000-20,000 men over the span of 5-10 years is a small sample size??
>receding hairline since 19
>21 now
>want to put the receding to a halt
>read all up on finasteride
>decide to just go to the doctor to ask on what to do
>''its just genetics, nothing u can do''
>...ok i guess
>get home disappointed
>start researching more and more about fin
>decide to just straight up call the doctors office to ask for a perscription
>instant back-lash from the lady on the phone saying it could have bad side-effects and that im too young and shouldnt believe things from the internet
>.... ok.... *hang up*
OK WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON.
>>36641572
Shit I just bought this stuff ;_; yea I think I will just go bald now...
>>36647621
where do you live. if your on public healthcare your not getting prescribed it for sure basically.
>>36647647
live in the Netherlands
and finasteride is perscription only here
>>36647621
Dude don't do it... Do like me - bald pals
>>36647675
im not shaving when theres a medical solution available.
i feel like bald-bro's are only promoting going bald/shaving because they regret not having taken fin and now want other people to share the misery with
Why is /fit so vain and worried about appearances?
I thought you guys were into Stoicism?
>>36647702
>/fit/ not worried about appearance
tep kok
>>36647696
I'm not bald yet. Literally bought Regaine Forte (danish brand - expensive af) a couple days ago. Already thinking of throwing it in the bin and go to the barbarshop next week. My plan was to go bald after I'm done with university, but I have decided to focus on my body and become big and strong and rock a bald head. I have never had that flowing aryan Germanic hair our people are blessed with, always rocked buzz cut, short hair or fade. So maybe it's easier for me go to bald since I have always had short hair?
>>36647763
I always had thick awesome hair until MPB started. I tried to accept it for a while and after it thinned out enough I shaved my head, because I bought into all the "Just shave it! Look at Jason Stathom etc" bullshit.
I looked like a fucking alien. Like a moon-headed Larry David. It sunk me into a deeper depression than I ever could have imagined. I've been on fin/minox ever since and I've had really good success with them. I've grown my hair out longer than it's ever been in half a decade without it looking fucking stupid. Call me a shill or whatever other bullshit but Finasteride is a fucking miracle drug and I will preach its good word until I the day I die.
>>36646817
lmao look guys, Mr shit genetics just arrived! it must suck so bad to be you.
Im on fin and minox since 2014 absolutly no side effects, just more hair.
How u like ur hairline senpai
>>36647888
Some people take fin for years before they get side effects
I took it and after 9 months I fwlt like a depressed zombie and my balls were smaller. I feel normal again now but I did not feel good on that stuff
<lost some hair before but it was due to a dry scalp
<regular showers ftw
<now 25
I started lifting 5-6 times a week about 4 months ago. I was fine until a month ago when i tried creatine and gomad. I quit both and started minoxidil and an anti DHT shampoo. Hair isn't coming out as bad as before but I still see them nearly everywhere..
Should I not lift for a while to decrease testosterone, let the minox take effect and hopefully regrow some hair?
Or should I power through it and eventually just shave it. I have been told I would look decent shaved bald
Please help me familia
Muh hurr
>>36647645
Im not saying don't use it. Just try it and see how it affects you, that's what I did. Others have far less side effects, I just get pissed off when people on /fit tell me that I'm wrong when they probably have never touched the stuff
>>36648091
testosterone doesn't cause baldness
genetic susceptibility of your hair follicles to dihydrotestosterone does
no amount of healthy living will save your hair
if you want to keep it, get on finasteride. It is the ONLY thing that will stop it
>>36648079
you sure it was the fin that caused those symptoms and not fear of getting sides that caused it? the mind is a powerful thing m8
>>36647834
Any sides? I had lots :(
>>36648138
But doesn't test get converted to DHT? Wouldn't it follow that more test->more DHT?
>>36647888
Uhuh so what age are you
>>36648185
Yes but what I'm saying is that the amount of DHT in your body isn't what causes MPB. It's how susceptible your hair follicles are to DHT that determines whether or not you will go bald, and that's genetic. Unless you have hormone issues, your DHT levels aren't much different than a guy with a full head of hair, whether or not you lift.
>>36648185
Yes it does, hence steroid will accelerate hair loss. However testosterone to dht conversion isn't that bad when your fit, being fat and unfit will make you bald earlier in life. Balding is actually caused by the lowering of all hormones (aging process)
>>36648209
This is correct. It's also the reason why hair transplants work. Non dht susceptible follicles are taken from the back of the head and stuck in the crown.
>>36648267
Somewhat true, but hair transplant patients are often prescribed finasteride to prevent transplanted hair from falling out within a few years of the surgery. It's not an uncommon thing.
>>36648286
Hair transplants don't fall out. Other hair in the affected area will naturally fall out, that's what the fin stops. I'm sure you knew that but im writing for others reading this thread and worrying about it (like I did)
>>36636565
Hair transplant
>>36648335
au contraire anon
http://www.bernsteinmedical.com/answers/what-is-shock-fall-out/
a lot of people have to get subsequent transplants to maintain, which only works until they don't have enough donor hair
Remember that signs of balding in your early 20's don't necessarily mean that you will have a horseshoe by 30. Some people will bald at the rate of someone like Will Self (pic related) who is 54 and will probably have horseshoe well into his 60's.
It is balding before 20 that you have to be concerned about, that is usually the sign of young rapid hairloss.
If you are still concerned about being bald when you're older you seriously need to get a fucking grip and accept that we get old. Don't let these concerns ruin your youth. Only get on the fin if you notice a NW3 in your early 20's or something.
>>36648417
>Some people will bald at the...
*most
>>36648404
Its right there in the link that the shed hair is dht prone and not the type that is used for transplant. If the non dht hair falls out but the root took hold it will simply grow again.
>>36648417
Want to know something as well?
That guy walking down the street with the thick head of hair? He's balding.
80% of men will have experienced noticeable hair-loss by 50. Followed by damn near close to 100& at 80. The chanced of you being one of the few who are completely bald before 30 is extremely slim. Chill out, enjoy your hair and realise that your worth isn't decided by how attractive women find you. If you are doomed to eternal virginity, find a truly meaningful hobby. Or kill yourself, it is up to you. I may sound like a pretentious fag, but I would rather read and write than have sex. I am now 32 and have the Henry Cavill hairline and will likely experience noticable thinning before I am 40. This doesn't concern me as young hot women don't generally want to fuck most 40 year olds.
>>36647621
that's what you get for being autistic
>>36647414
>34
> still has mommy issues
You're the problem you little faggot :^)
get on fin lads, i have experienced no sides and i use the big 3.
If your hair isnt that bad now, and youre already debating getting on fin. GET ON IT. Because when you start looking like a creepy bald cunt (don't believe the bald and beard meme, literally no women fantasice about bald men) you will then want to get on it, and by then far more damage will have been done. If you can say with absolute certainty you will never use it and wont care when you look like a balding loser in his 20s then dont. but if you contemplate with early signs, you will 100% get on it down the line, keep the fuller head of hair
>>36648614
Just because she's my mom doesn't mean she isn't a psycho cunt.
>>36647834
Do you have before/after pics?
>>36649037
Yup. I've posted this a few times before.
>>36648667
i just noticed since about a year that I may have a little bit of a receding hairline. Had a better hairline few years ago is what I mean.
Currently debating wether I should take Rogaine shampoo or not.
Finasteride seems to have side effects. Do not want.
Gonna go rogaine or equivalent i think. But i fucking it doesn't destroy my hairline instead of improving it.
>>36647144
THE CHINS OF CASTAMERE
>>36638291
Stay away, I used the shit for 3 months and 5 months later I got advanced hair loss on the sides I basicly have no more side fringe hair anymore
21 here with receding hairline. Not too bad yet, still in NW1 stage. My dad was NW2 by 25 and it pretty much stayed that way till he was 45 and he started losing it on his crown. At 58 he's at about a NW5. If I go down the same path I won't be too fussed. I already shave my head with a 1 guard once a month so I know what I look like without hair.
>>36649896
>shaved with a 1 guard
unless you've bicced the top part of your head you don't know what you look like without hair
>>36648155
I didn't even know what the sides were until I looked them up later and saw that's what they were
All i knew is that I was tired as fk and felt horrible all the time
>>36636535
Lifting for 2 years and my hair is oooonnnn point, u jelly? It's all down to genetics man, my father has a full set of hair and he's 60 something. So I'm probably going to keep my hair until I'm 60 something too.
>>36650032
That's not how it works you mong
>Do research
>Let's_do_this.jpg
>Hit the Trips
>6 months in
>No sides
>No noticeable difference
>Stop after 8 months
>Can no longer afford even generic bulk stuff
My stack was:
>1/4 Propecia tablet x 1pd.
>2% Nizoral x once every 2nd day.
>Hair A-Gain x 2pd.
It's fucked m8s; brand name stuff will run you over $300 PER MONTH.
>Thanks Australia.
It's not baldness that's unattractive, it's the lack of confidence that's unattractive.
I guess if you have a weird shaped head that's also not good but you'd have to look like a real potato for that to be relevant.
>>36636535
Unless you are doing steroids this was going to happen now anyways.
>>36636535
Seriously save up some money and get a hair transplant its the only way
>>36649147
Shave your head and see if the top hair looks thinner, if not chill. Keep repeating until you notice thinning or don't care anymore.
I noticed my hair loss starting in the back at around 23 (25 now) but all of a sudden in October I had a big bald spot which seemed like it appeared overnight. Been on fin and minoxidil since January and my once NW3 vertex has started to fill in pretty nicely.
I'm glad I didn't decide to go bald since I'm a manlet and have a bad face for baldness. No sides.
>>36650405
wtf? i get mine for 27 euro for a 6 month supply
I'm still in my teens /fit... What do
>>36642715
>>36642841
>>36642880
>>36642930
>>36643045
>>36643101
>>36643012
Wow it's like I'm really in a youtube comment section. Kill yourself. Both of you. Faggots.
>>36652511
shave your head and start lifting m8
>>36647235
no one in my family is balding, even both of my 89 year old grandpas, master race hair genes coming through
>>36652849
You can still get the balding gene from your great grandma
>inb4 probably not
>>36650032
Look at the men on your mother's side of the family, that's where you inherit your hair genes
>>36650421
Words fail me. Your stupidity is galling. Young attractive women are the pickiest people you'll ever meet. You can be as confident as you want but they're judging you on looks constantly.
>>36636535
Finasteride has existed for a long time now, no excuse
>>36641433
>I read on a forum it was poison so it must be true
I bet you believe bread is also bad for you
>>36649051
Thanks, those are seriously impressive results
>>36643462
they always lie
>>36653899
I think the whole notion that you still want to be desirable to young girls is the problem here. If you're in your mid to late 20s, why are you still chasing 18 year olds? If you missed out on that part of life then accept it. So many guys here are GFless because theyre trying to chase something that they missed out on in High school. But you have to come to terms with that if you look older and balding then you're not gonna attract young girls anymore. Accept it, shave your head and go meet a woman and move onto the next stage in your life.
>>36636535
You're getting older. You just happened to start working out right when your genes told your hair to fall out.
Also, most men over the age of 21 are at at least 96% on OP's pic. It's only when you hit 90% before age 35 that you worry.
>>36649896
Most men are at least NW1 by age 21. Shit, I'd estimate like 5 to 10% of guys our age are at least a IV.
>>36656627
I've been a NW1 since age 5 but I'm 20 now and have had no change.
That's a natural high hairline for you. A 'four' head.
>>36643527
>2012
>took creatine for 2 weeks
>on second week notice a lot of hair in shower
>stopped immediately
>2014
>start using minoxidil for beard gains for 3 months
>stubbornly take it again for 3 months
>stop
>shave head
>hairline has receeded a bit
>mid 2015
>let hair grow back out
>looks better than ever
>start using minoxidil again for beard
>hit with all 3 side effects
>have to use like 1/4th cap everyday
>hair started sheddding
>shedded for 6 months
>finally started to stabalize
>switched brands
>huge shed again
>decide it isn't worth it
>shave hair again
>muh hairline
>let it grow back
>starting to look normal again
wew
Where can i order legit generic fin? Alldaychemist? Fin or death boyos
>>36658860
just get a legit script and buy it from a legit pharmacy ya dingus. It's easy and the only way to ensure the fin you buy is legit
>>36652511
Just shave it bro. Grow a beard if you can.
>>36652511
honestly that looks fucking creepy
0,5mm that shit and get on some heavy ass fucking steroids, get your bf low and get a beard. call sluts sluts and fuck hoes
from what i read Finasteride kills your libido and shrink your prostate as it was previously made for hyper prostate disease.
And Minoxidil kills the collagen and so your face look older.
That's great. I now am completely lost and probably will never buy any of those "products", so I'll just be sitting there losing my hair at not even 30.
Perfect.
>>36660537
>from what i read
you mean from what you read from random anonymous hypochondriacs on the internet? It's used to treat benign prostatic hyperplasia, which is extremely common in older men. How come so many dudes can take it without problems anon?
>>36660597
I don't know. Maybe they don't care or haven't noticed yet that their balls are smaller? Maybe having a full head of hair for those people who are almost completely bald is much more important and outweight the negatives. But for me I am not bald and not going to bald for a very long time, I just have a very slowly receding hairline on temples that's all
Maybe those dudes are happy for 3 months and then they realize that your skin needs collagen to look good. I don't know man. I don't trust anyone. Even the dermatologist if they guy haven't tried it on himself i don't care about his opinion.
>>36638336
>>36643014
Proofs?
>>36660698
I've been in fin/minox well over a year and haven't had a single side effect. Many guys on hair loss forums also document their success and lack of side effects.
Do you believe the few guys screaming bloody murder about fin are at all representative of the entire population of fin users?
>>36660537
Don't listen to the shills. I was on minoxidil for a month and had black eyes and puffy skin around the eyes. Shed hair very quickly too. And this was at the standard 1ml twice daily. Finisteride is to risky imo. Actually not even legal in my country either. Minoxidil is cheap though and you may have better results. Fin can have permanent sides so do your research and don't let some kids on fit tell you it's only as risky as Tylenol.
>>36660794
>Don't listen to the shills
yeah im totally making mega $$$ from the pharm companies who pay me the big bux to come onto an swahili cave-painting board to push their cheap pill
>shed hair very quickly
That's a normal part of the treatment and means it's working.
>Finisteride is to risky imo
Yes, in your opinion, which happens to be wrong. It's one of the most tame drugs on the market.
>Fin can have permanent sides
There's never once been a scientific study that has confirmed this, and anecdotes by anonymous hypochondriacs are meaningless.
>>36636535
>At NWII at 21
Well, fuck me then. Are there any decent shampoos that help with receding hairlines?
>>36660873
No. There's some shampoos that can make your hair LOOK thicker, but if you're honestly a NW2 then that probably means you're destined for further hair loss. If you want to stop it, get on finasteride. No shampoo will stop it.
>>36637986
post pics
>>36650763
That's still about AUD 60.
But yeah, regulations make it a bitch here m8.
GUY, GUYS
I WENT ON FIN
GUYS LISTEN
I WENT ON FIN AND LETERALLY DIED
MY BALL SHRIVELED UP AFTER ONE CAP AND NOW I LOOK LIKE MONG
THEN THEY WENT BLACK LIKE RASINS AND FELL OFF
GUYS SERIOUSLY LISTEN
THEY FELL OFF
NOW I'M LITERALLY BALLESS, BALD, AND LOOK LIKE MANG
Here we go again with the fear mongering in regards to Fin and Minox. I've been on Minox for years, literally zero sides. I've been on Fin for over 6 months. I take 0.5mg everyday. The only sides I experienced was ball ache which was on and off for the first week or two. I've had bigger loads and am actually hornier at times.
My hair loss has stopped and I noticed my crown is starting to thicken up. 10/10 would recommend.
I started my Finasteride June 21,2015 1mg a day I'm not sure if it has really helped as I'm still losing hair atleast I think I am it also takes a while to get my dick hard and sometimes I have trouble maintaining an erection if no results by june I will stop buying this shit and just shave it
>>36662102
>>36662417
Paid shills pls go.
As a future baldlet, I can only suggest you fellow balding friends, to just accept it and try to better yourself on things that are under your control. Women will treat us worse, but you seriously shouldn't want to end up with a woman who judges you on things you have no control over.
All those meds and pills don't work and a trick by corporations to give you false hopes and take your money. Even the stories you hear every once in a while about one guy who got his hair back and yada yada are usually a few hairs and a weird shape. They will NOT bring you your old hair back, just a former ridiculous patch at best.
I'm coming to terms slowly to accept it, I've stopped trying to comb my hair in a way that will hide the balding and it feels fine already. That is what you should do. And enjoy your youthful hair as long as you can.
>>36662639
Paid shill? Think what you want. I have no reason to come on /fit/ and lie but if that's what you want to think, fine.
I'll keep my hair. You can go bald.
>>36662791
Stop giving these young kids false hopes, Schlomo.
all you guys losing hair.. how often do you use shampoo?
please don't say everyday
>>36663560
>shampoo makes you bald
lol
>>36663560
Holy fuck he thinks shampoo causes genetically predetermined male pattern baldness. Troll harder shit poster
>>36647621
the lady on the phone usually knows nothing. nothing at all. just ask her to pass a message along to the doctor.
get another doctor who will actually talk to you about it. This would be my answer regardless of the drug or condition that is not really an appropriate dr. office response.
>>36641433
don't believe everything you read on the internet friend
>>36643462
everytime i ask someone close to me about something, i always get postitive feed back, more along the lines of "not really" "its not that bad"
someone im not close to, 100% honesty all the time.
look at it this way, a women your close to asks if shes getting fat. realistically yes she has, but not alot at this point. You don't go saying "yeah your getting fat"
The fear mongering over finasteride is just out of control.. Have been on it since turning 20, so almost 4 years. Literally no sides, other than the peace of mind knowing my hairline is solid as a rock.
For people considering fin go get the 5mg from target and cut it up, it is SO much cheaper than the 1mg version. Costs me a whopping $40 a year.
>>36660715
http://www.anabolicmen.com/creatine-testosterone/
>>36662102
>>36662791
Personal experience from one person doesn't mean shit.
On minox, my libido crapped out. Could only get half a boner at best, headaches, felt like absolute crap all the time and it gave me heart palpitations.
So yeah.
I say, buy a small sample, give it a go. If you get all fucked up like me, don't worry. I returned back to normal in a few weeks.
>>36667538
Yeah this. Can't believe act as of its completely safe. The fucking side effects written on the pamphlet you get with it aren't fucking made up even if you don't experience them
>>36636535
I just entered stage 3 and I decided to get on Minoxidil (Rogaine). But...I should have started earlier
A guy I know on Facebook had miraculous results from just Rogaine, he went from stage 6 to stage 2 somehow. Stage 6 seemed irrecoverable before that
>>36638291
I'm currently on Minoxidil for the first time. 3 weeks in.
>massive brain fog
>low energy
>sleep 13 hours a night
>skin looks bad
>lifts gone down
>gaining fat
>chest hurts
>pale as a ghost
>no positive results at all
>>36638336
Only proof I need is that it happened to me, and tons of other people on the internet.
I can't believe they're allowed to sell this shit that
1) doesn't even work
2) fucks you up permanently a dozen different ways
FUCK THIS GAY EARTH
>>36640485
My brother who is the same age as me (27) has the most magnificent hair ever, yet I'm bald so, it clearly doesn't work that way.
I think he kept his hair because he smoked tons of weed and I didn't. Weed prevents hair loss.
>>36643216
This is true though. Educate yourself pleb. Why should people spoon feed you? GOOGLE EXISTS.
>>36646731
Because the men who take this drug already have such low test (as they're in their 60s) that their libido is low to begin with, so sides are not as noticed as they would be with young men
>>36668339
Yeah, my dad had a monk's ring at 25 while his father and older brothers had strong hairlines into their 50s.
I need someone to clear this up for me
Does this Minox/Fistasteride shit STOP further hair loss, or will it actually REVERSE hair loss GREATLY?
Because if all it does is stop further loss, there is no point in me taking it, because my hair is fucked.
>>36644144
There is a real cure for balding. But the medical industry has suppressed it because it can't be patented.
>>36668394
Another example of the medical industry suppressing a cure because it can't be patented is that Sodium Bicarbonate injected directly into a cancer tumor causes it to disappear within weeks without any negative side effects. But because that cure isn't profitable since anyone can buy Sodium Bicarbonate for 0.50$ at any grocery store, it is suppressed.
>>36668384
Minoxidil activates inactive follicles, as long as they're there. It can actually make you grow more hair than you had before, i.e.people with patchy beards have used it to fill out.
>>36668257
>massive brain fog
>low energy
>sleep 13 hours a night
haven't noticed anything
>skin looks bad
gotta moisturize
>lifts gone down
>gaining fat
that's probably on you
>chest hurts
get that checked out, minox was originally a (really weak) blood pressure treatment
>pale as a ghost
if anything the initial dryness made me looked kinda flushed
>no positive results at all
in 3 weeks that's normal
try 3 months
>>36668408
bullshit
>>36668465
One of the sides of Minox is "unexplained weight gain"
>>36668529
How about you order a cancer tumor off Amazon and try it yourself buddy. Inject that sodium bicarbonate into it and watch it die.
>>36636535
>Started balding at 16
>Had glorious thick hair when I was a kid
>At 17 I was a VI as seen on OP pic
>Decided to shave it all
>Can't shave for shit ,cuts all over and irritated skin for several month
Now I'm twenty and it's been 3 years since I shave my head every 2 or 3 days (depending on where I take my shower).
It got better after 2 years but this actively ruined my confidence. Being a fat loser weeb didn't help either.
Oh well I can pull it off reasonably well but sometimes I could only wish to have my hair back. Such is life
>>36636535
Ignore the balding guys who gave up and shaved their head. They just want other people to be as miserable inside as they are. Get on Finasteride as soon as you can. All research shows the chances of serious sides are incredibly small, most people complaining online are just imagining shit. Get on it while you still can, or you may end up as pathetic shaved loser trying to scare people into not getting on Finasteride yourself.
>>36657578
Moral of the story?
Minox sucks?
Creatine sucks?
There is no cure for balding?
I dont get it
>>36636535
94% here
it kinda stopped by itself for me, taking minox just to be sure though (giving me a small regrowth too actually)
also I think working out has nothing to do with it, you just got older dude
