Why the FUCK do you not do weighted pull ups and chin ups?
whats the best to do these if my gym has no belts or chains
dumbbell between the legs? hard to keep it in
Because I can't do one pull-up at body weight ;_;
Probably too heavy and don't know what equipment to use.
>>36626027
>Why the FUCK do you not do weighted pull ups and chin ups?
Check your privilege
>>36626046
>hard to keep it in
Dicklet detected
I can only do 8 completely strict pull-ups at 170.
BOULDERING AND ROCK CLIMBING MASTER RACE
>>36626046
Just buy your own belt from Amazon like I did. Best $30 I ever spent
>>36626057
Yeah check your fucking privilege OP.
>>36626049
How?
>get resistance bands
>have someone help you
>literally anything
If you can't do a pullup at body weight you need to drop some weight and start from square one.
I stopped doing them for a long time, but I had a good six months in the military I was doing them almost daily.
Now I can break out 10 or so no matter my weight.
I just bought a chain today and am going to jerry rig something together tomorrow for weighted chins and dips.
Then some barbell curls and lightweight hammer curls.
Is this going to make my arms explode?
>>36626027
i thought op pic was holding katanas for a moment there
>>36626027
I'm holding off buying a dip belt until I can do 5 sets of 10 dead-hang to sternum chin ups.
>>36626084
My arms are tiny I can rep 70lb chinups for 4-5 reps. My dips are 100lbs 5 reps. It's probably because of how much I weigh. 5'10 161.
>>36626095
>to sternum
get your chin over the bar fag
>>36626105
I don't know how your anatomy is laid out, but my chin is above my sternum.
>>36626109
o
>>36626027
I do, OP
>>36626164
Oh wait you probably thought I meant this bullshit. I don't do that.
>>36626217
no im just retarded
Because I'm barely strong enough to do one pull up without weight
>>36626261
The first one is the hardest. Once you can do one, getting stronger so you can do more is easy.
>>36626272
>>36626261
yeah do lat pull downs and rows. strengthen your back and biceps and you're good pham
i've noticed that bulking fucks your pullups. when i was 10lbs lighter i could do 3 sets of 10, not i can do 1 set of 10 then 7-8 barely
>>36626049
I can only do 2 but can OHP 60kg. Why
>>36626046
I use a backpack at the house.
>>36626102
Don't tell me that you prick. I have my hopes and dreams set on this making me huge
>>36626301
oh yeah that's a good idea
plus i already have a backpack
>>36626286
>>36626261
>>36626272
Twice in my life I've gone from zero pull-ups to handful. Once, when I first started training, second, after an injury induced hiatus.
The first time, I used the assisted pull-up machine and within 2-3 months was able to migrate to real pull-ups.
The second time, I used a chair to assist my pull-ups.
Point being, don't do replacement exercises, so assisted pull-ups.
>>36626298
I'm the opposite. I can chin 46kg but only 48kg ohp for 3 reps.
>>36626305
At least you'll get a decent back from weighted chins. I haven't seen any improvements to my triceps with dips but my lower pecs have increased in size.
>>36626305
You could actually get pretty decent arms just by doing weighted close grip chin ups and weighted dips. As long as you can keep increasing the weight when it gets too easy and not just doing 25 reps with 5kg or some shit
>>36626313
I agree with this. Flex hangs, dead-hangs, negatives, "lat activators", assisted, all better than machine work.
>>36626334
You do know there different techniques for tricep and chest dips right?
Chest - head down, lean forward, arms slightly out
Tris - head and body straight, keep arms at your side
>>36626057
Just because you have a breast growing out of your shoulder does not mean you can't pursue exercise and fitness. Check your ignorance, familia.
>>36626342
I only do weighted chins and dips. Include accessories if you care about arm size.
>>36626072
Link?
>>36626342
I plan to start out with a 25 pound plate. Just 3x5 and increase the weight based on how I feel. I think dips won't be too bad but my chin ups are probably going to be shit.
>>36626357
Yeah. I didn't think it would make much of a difference, although they have increased in size. If I try to do tricep dips, my shoulders and sternum get fucked up, so I just stay with weighted chest dips.
>>36626379
Don't expect to much progress on your arms for weighted chins. Most of it will go to your lats.
>>36626228
He went down the road instead of across the street :'(
>>36626428
it's too late now, it was always too late
>>36626366
Yeah I remember seeing an Elliot Hulse video once where he said the only 4 exercises you need are squats, deadlifts, dips and pull ups.
>>36626379
Yeah you'll probably find pull ups with 25 pounds are going to be a lot harder than you think. Dips with that much weight will probably be easier than you expect.
>>36626386
You should try doing diamond push ups for tris if you can't do dips.
>>36626027
When you're not skele mode these become pretty pointless
After about a lean 180lbs its unlikely you'll have strength to add significant amounts of weight for a realistic number of reps
>>36626451
Diamond push ups weighted? I don't really care about my triceps that much, I just care about my weighted chest dips going up. I'm so close to 3plates for 1 rep. They'll increase in size eventually because I can feel them fatigue on the last rep.
>>36626298
Are you fat?
>>36626500
Most likely he is. The less you weigh. Bodyweight excersises are easier.
>>36626372
http://www.amazon.com/Harbinger-28900-Polypropylene-Weight-Belt/dp/B001P0S3XU
>>36626298
Because you're a fat fuck
>>36626046
Just do it bro, you'll finally be able to realize your dream of being a bird and nesting an egg with you legs.
>>36626057
He did say chinups.
>>36626046
Hang it from your feet, don't hold it between your ankles.
>>36626484
Maybe if you're weak. Last time I was going "heavy", I was adding 70 lbs for sets of 5 on my pull-ups, at >190 lbs body weight. Body weight alone just won't do after a certain point.
>>36626027
because i don't know if i should bother yet, i can do about 7 reps of chins or 5 reps of pull ups, the first 3 or 4 are easy though. is it better to try and reach 10 reps first or should i start doing weighted and just do doubles/ triples?
>>36626027
Because I can only do 4 bodyweight chinups atm.
different muscles
obviously
>>36627368
Same senpai. Trying for 5 this week
>>36627368
>>36627368
I know how you feel. I can only do about 5 bodyweight +10kg chin ups myself, but I do weigh about 260lbs, so I imagine you must be pretty hefty yourself.
>>36626484
kek'd, Weighted pull-ups are god-tier.
12-14bw pull-ups at 297lbs/135kg and RM1=297lbs+100lbs / 135+45kg
Natty
>>36627447
I wish, I'm just hormonally impaired.
>>36627463
Bump
>>36626027
Because I got better lats by doing pulldown since I can focus more on doing it with my lats
>>36626027
I do though. That being said, I can't for the fucking life of be progress beyond 12,5kg for 7 reps. I wanna get that to 10 reps before moving up to 15kg. I've literally been stuck for like a month and a half now, any tips?
>>36627691
How many reps can you do with 15kg?
>>36627691
yeah. Do as many as you can with 12,5kg (so.. 7), then repeat this with lower weight (maybe 11 kg). Rinse and repeat until you are only doing bodyweight pull ups.
>>36627691
Switch between heavy 5s (15-20kg), whatever is heavy for you and volume oriented work (0-10kg)
>>36626027
Because my forearm is slightly inflamed and causes my elbow to hurt like hell if I do them.
I'm already fat as fuck, I don't need another 45lbs extra weight on my pullups.
>>36627691
do this: >>36628026
not this:>>36628009
You gotta go heavy buddy, even if it's low reps.
Acutally I do. I do parallel grip pull-ups with a four kilogram dumbell between my legs
>>36628009
>>36627691
Higher weight for less reps have its advantages for progression
>>36627990
5
>>36628026
>>36628046
>>36628070
All right thanks brehs
>>36628009
kel
i can do a 40kg weighted pullup for 2-3 reps at 85kg bodyweight
my arms are still tiny though and so are my lats
strength is a meme
>>36628437
But ur nerve system is strong, anon
Don't wanna get too big
If I can do reps with assist, or do a few (like 4 or 5) with body weight, should I do 3x8 assisted or like 2x3 with body weight?
Will start on weighted pull ups soon. Some good pointers in this thread.
Thanks gentlemen.
>>36626959
Do you have a solution for nonmanlets?
>tfw just recently became able to do a single full ROM chin-up
Feels pretty good. Recovering fatty at 265lbs here. Down from 300.
>>36629005
What do you mean by that?
>>36629535
Try a backpack.
>>36626027
NEET living at home with no membership, live in old style victorian house, no pull up bars fit any of the doorframe, thats my excuse..
I weigh 240lbs so 3x5 bodyweight is good enough for me
>>36629535
Back pack like other anon said. If your gym has resistance bands, you can use one to tie some plates to your waist. You can just drop the cash and get a dip belt from Amazon. If your gym has chains you can drape them over your shoulder.
baka desu senpai
>>36626046
I'm using old karate belt on my 50kg weighted dips. Seems to be okay.
>>36626027
because i did my first pull up yesterday
>>36626083
negatives and chinups with plms facing away from you are probably best
Are weighted safe for you bones/shoulders?
WHne should one start weighted?
I can do 12 reps from deadhang to chest, add 2.5kg each 2 weeks?
>>36631398
Gymnasts have harder movements than weighted pullups and dips. It's okay to do them. Just follow any progression scheme.
because i weigh 230 lbs and just getting 4 bodyweight pullups is hell as is ;_;
Using a pulley I can get one rep with each arm without the 25lb plate leaving the ground. Trying 20lbs tomorrow. Wish me luck bros
>>36626027
because some of us don't copy stuff we see in superhero movies
Because one armed pull ups are superior in nearly every single way at building up both muscle and ligaments without needed extra equipment.
>>36626027
But I do
why would you want to fuck up your joints? there's literally no reason to do weighted pull-ups, bodyweight is more than enough
>>36626298
Because the muscles used for OHP have nothing to do with pull-ups. And like others have said, you're just weak.
Oh fuck I was made for this thread. Never see anyone at my college gym even close to me as far as weighted chins / pullups.
170lbs bw
115lbs chin 1 rep max
Feels great. One day would love to be able to do a one armed pull up. One day.
>>36626065
Completely strict pullups and chin ups are a meme. It's good to get the full extension, but it's really just for showing off. For growth you want about 3/4 reps, cutting out the lockout at the top and the complete extension.
>>36626585
ayo you my nigga, nigga
>>36626027
Because I just graduated to 3 sets of 5 unassisted pull ups. I am still a baby.
I can normally do 3x12 non weighted dips. Should I start doing weighted dips or should I increase reps?
>>36633099
Weighted do 3x5-8
When I started lifting I could do 10kg chin ups for reps, now I'm heavier I can only do 5 kg for reps. Damn squats
>>36627368
http://www.50pullups.com/
>>36633353
Could've ate at maintenance, if you really care about pullups
>>36626046
I hold one in between feet. My gay as fuck gym doesn't allow anyone to bring in their own equipment, I can't even bring in a fucking resistance band :-)
>>36626027
Because I cant do normal pullups
>>36629564
That's a good milestone, keep it up mang
am i the only one using a regular belt?
hold up your pants kind of belt
>>36634161
That's a good idea.
My gym has a proper belt though.
>>36633498
What? What about like OLY shoes? Do you have to train naked?
>>36626027
Not comfy. Dropped them like I dropped O MEME P
>>36626046
I stick it up my ass. Gets me odd looks every now and then but idgaf
>>36626301
>back is too wide for backpack
>have to wear it on the front
>doing pregnant pullups in a crowded gym
I do 3x5 with a 45 plate. (5'10" 165 lbs)
> tfw no wide back yet
>>36626301
I was thinking of buying some rope but that's a better idea. Just did some chin-ups earlier wearing a jersey with some weights tucked into the front pocket.
my chinups sets last session were 8 7 6
want to get to 10 10 10 so badly but it's taking forever
>>36626046
Clench it between your glutes
>>36626027
theyre too hard :/
I can do 20 chin ups and around 14 pull ups is that alright?
>>36635850
Stats?
>>36626027
Being a light delicate manlet (160 lbs) this is my go to for back building honestly. It's the one exercise no one can give me shit about, as I can finally do double my bodyweight for two deadhang reps. Lol @ all the buff black dudes doing those ridiculous half pullups then proceeding to yell to their tribesmen, 'ah yeah you know what time it is!!!!$' time to stop spoiling my holy exercise you dirty darkie
5 reps with 20kg, about 12 reps unweighted
75kg bw
>>36626027
Should the bar be that way or can it be just straight?
cause of 6'6 wingspan at 6'2 but really cause i'm a lazy cunt. I did them for awhile instead of rows while my lower back was tweaked, pretty fun shit just takes so much out of me.
>>36626027
I do them. I always start with a 10 rep set, then I add 20kg and I do 3x6 and then I finish with a set to failure. 74kg bw, I'm waiting to hit 8 reps before adding more weight.
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