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Olympic Weightlifting General
Fuck tripfags edition
first for deliuge is a goof
reposting it here
how do I not jump when extending? Whenever I extend hard I automaticly fly up
or am I using my legs too much? should I focus on pulling the weight with my back more?
How feasible is it to see a 300kg C&J at 85kg or under in the near future?
Why is the sport so stagnated anyway? Where is the potential, is all I'm asking.
>>36469699
>see a 300kg C&J at 85kg
wr for someone over 120kg WAS 264kg
>>36469699
the natty limit
>>36469648
eh fucn you i fuck yo7 long time
>>36469699
The potential has already been reached. The level of eliteness and frankly steroid use within the sport, I mean...the things those athletes do is already fucking ridiculous
>>36469699
uuh maybe they will develop some new revolutionary drugs, or maybe gene doping will really become a thing
>>36469746
>or maybe gene doping will really become a thing
they arent that far off currently
>>36469648
Can you imagine his chubby little fingers traversing the keyboard, the anticipation in his eyes growing stronger as the current OWG thread starts to get closer and closer to the limit? His heartbeat increasing with every reply, all of his 5"7' frame trembling as he realizes he will have the opportunity to get to start a new thread. The joy he felt as he entered his tripcode and clicked the "post" button after failing three captchas. And the following reminder that after all, he is still a useless waste of oxygen because he is too retarded to even create a thread on 4chan properly. I almost feel pity for him.
Can someone help me find photo with weightlifter doing very close grip overhead squat? I need this photo for mobility purposes.
>>36469801
>>36469801
http://www.allthingsgym.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/lesman-paredes-stretch-atg.jpg
>>36469889
Thanks anon. Maybe u could also find one more with barbell?
>>36469938
ue your imagiantion
>>36469994
Found this but it's small like my penis. I need a big one.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f1/e0/81/f1e081cef7d82257fca733d67905f53b.jpg
>>36470009
Its the same guy, doing the same stretch, but with a barbell in his hand.
use
your
imagination
lesman paredas
What are best sites for strength programming?
How do I program weightlifting position and strength work with texas method? (Not full cleans or snatches, just the positional strength)
M - BS, Clean Grip Deadlift
W - FS, OHS
F - BS
What else am I missing when it comes to developing very strong positions without doing the lifts? Where should I program these?
>>36470066
U can replace CDL with clean pull, it's praftically the same thing, ezpecially in terms of weight you can use, you just pull it more similar to how you would a clean. Dnt drag it up the legs, bring the hips towards the bar and extend. Do sn pull too, and snatch balance.
You shluld definitely squat higher frequency, but you can do a heavy light medium thing where back squaf is heavzy, front sq is mrdium, OHs is light.
>>36469715
Jesus christ you have severe autism
>>36468933
>they are actually judging me
maybe they just bantering u but ur autism and takes it personally
shit talking is part of sports and will make u competitive if ur not a bitch but u are so ya
u shud just quit like the other autist spangbob
>>36470366
Nah bro, I'm not autism IRL. Not even shit talking but just being cunts.
>>36470429
what gym is it
u sound like someone i know who said the same exact thing last week
>>36470471
I doubt you know me. I don't talk to anyone desu senpai. AUS
>>36469675
>should I focus on pulling the weight with my back more?
Absolutely not.
If your feet are coming off the ground as a result of a properly executed extension that's fine and even desirable. If you are hopping like a faggy little rabbit without actually extending, like I see a lot of beginners do, then you need correction. Not having seen you lift, I can't speak toward which you might be doing.
>>36469648
in for fuck eye sacks edition
>>36470645
das not me tho :(
I can prove it, here is pent's trip
only me and pent know pent's trip :)
>>36470775
trips r 4 gays
>>36470846
i don't trip, i name :^)
c babygurl heard me
>when you're starting to get things and move in a somewhat positive direction but then every one gets angry and tells you to fuck off because you aren't doing everything like a perfect, tru athlete that has spent years training even though you've only been doing WL for 2.5 months
Who /obliquefootangle/ here?
Only post itt if your feet project >45° from center.
>>36472014
>not having a 10-15 deg foot point
>>36472074
;_;
>>36469699
Basically impossible
Ilya is as genetically freaky as they get it seems and there's no way he's going to find another 50kg on his c&j
I doubt he could just use more drugs either
>>36471930
no ones expecting you to do it perfectly we just want you to stop pushing anything even slightly heavy
>>36472375
I've heard quite a few conflicting opinions on this, and I'm tending to believe in the opposite statement:
>I / him [norsefat] needs a litle more weight to actually be able to feel the incorrect positions]
I agree, hitting "PR's" is probably not the best thing ever and I should be working only around 100 kg or so, but I just did it any ways. lol
>>36472014
>not squatting with a narrow stance and a cozy 10 deg. Angle
>>36472429
How tall are you norsie?
>>36472538
0.0093454 furlongs
>>36471930
>>36472429
Nah, youre just trying to justify being dumb
Using a bit of weight (going from 69-80ish) isn't the same as setting or clean and jerks
Do what you want lad, but don't get pissy when you ignore the good advice everyone gave (literally babied you through every thread a few weeks ago)
Okay, is it not possible to post that whole opening spiel with the links for n00bs and shit anymore?
If so, why not, and why are the mods such faggots?
>>36472935
Nothing to do with mods, the trips and names.started removing the OP cos they're faggots who are too cool for school
>>36472935
babbys first time on 4chan
How often do you guys compete and how long have you been lifting?
Been doing weightlifting for about 1.5 years now and I competed 3 times in my first year. Starting to think I should just enter nearby competitions for the experience and it's fun. Thoughts?
>>36473083
Actual coaches will say compete as soon as possible regardless of total
Faggots here will probably say don't compete until you can hit 250+ or something dumb
I did a comp after about 3months lifting, 65/80 @ 78kg bw. Shocking but the experience was fun.
Not sure when I next compete but I want to go 80/100 and also total 200 sometime this year. I'm not taking to this sport well but I'm not gonna be a faggot and make excuses for myself, everyone can improve even if it's slowly.
>>36470630
>If you are hopping like a faggy little rabbit without actually extending, like I see a lot of beginners do, then you need correction
how do I correct this
>>36473172
Same, my coach got me competing after about 2 months. I think this year I should just compete as often as I can even if I don't peak for all of them, just for experience
>>36473172
>Faggots here
at least they stronger than u lmao
are rows with a snatch grip useful or what
>>36473222
Except of them giving advice here aren't, that's the ridiculous thing. And in any case most people here have been lifting longer than me.
>>36473331
not really
snatch pull variations will build your snatch grip upper back strength better.
>>36473002
Really, because I tried to copy/paste it into this thread just to have it around, and it wouldn't let me. I kept getting "Updating Index" and getting booted to the first page of /fit/
Is the problem just that I'm a retard?
>>36473458
Idk maybe, idk
i grinded a rep
have to go sn now
>>36473526
qt3.14
>>36473331
Yes, Ive seen a video where klokov was doing heavy snatchgrip rows. They couldn't hurt.
>>36473526
>that divebomb
rip knees
>>36473526
walking backwards to rerack after that rep, brave
nice haircut
>>36472429
>>36471930
youre just hearing what you want to hear once (quite possibly from a troll) and blocking out all the hundreds of posts offering sensible advice
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDOdcGBikuN
i did lots of snatches
r8 my tech how do i suck pls ignore how i forgot to extend on last 2 snatches
I have jerked 100 off blocks and clean 112.5 but I struggle to c&j even 90 sometimes, I always feel breathless and tired for the jerk and I psych myself out
How can I get past this? I don't catch bar on throat usually. I think it's becos my hands move in during clean and I have to pop bar to jerk grip and this taxes me. Would hands moving in be a sign of flexibility?
Sorry for bad english
>>36474066
If you need to move your hands a lot for the jerk, you probably need to work on hand positioning and/or wrist flexibility.
Is it possible to teach myself the lifts without a coach if I can't get one?
I only know two other lifters I can ask for help, but can I get pretty decent/good from constant form checks etc.?
220lbs x2 sn
tried tian tao trapi after sn pulls
felt okay. couldn't maintain a good rhythm throughout sets.
>>36473956
pas bb wat happnd to ur program
it used to b in da op but it wuzzin
last time we hadn op dat iz
>>36474348
?
chinfl.blogspot.
co.uk
?
>>36473533
:3
>>36473544
i'm working on it
>>36473762
eh i've never had a squat that i couldnt rerack yet
ye i was overdue for haircut
Mullet next?
>>36474324
mirin that bar closeness
>>36474159
Well I am quite long arms, but the real problem is I grip just about at rings and happy to jerk from here too but during the pull to catch of clean my arms move in... I think this is a arm flexibility problem... Triceps maybe?
>>36474528
No mullet people think u copy yoang
I think the eastern euro bowl cut
>>36474758
bowl cut is chinese lady
I'm lifting at a crossfit gym. They have a weightlifting class once a week, and the coach is telling me that I'm pulling wrong because my shins aren't vertical. I said that I prefer to pull with shins tilted forward, then as I start to move the bar my knees go up and out of the way
she told me that not only am I wrong, but the only people who should pull with a more upright torso are long limbed people like Indians and that asians and whites should pull with vertical shins and more horizontal torsos to make the hamstrings work
I only clean about 120kg @ 85kg bodyweight but somehow this kind of seems wrong
>>36474758
oke
>>36474741
work on being able to keep your grip width in the catch then, lots of upper body stretching, only front squat with your pulling grip, and when you clean focus hard on gripping the bar tightly and not letting your hands come in
>>36474846
she sounds dumb as fuck its about proportions of the indivudual not some broad generalisation based on race.
if you your shoulders are above the bar and the bar stays close and the bar path is right its all good nigga
>>36475127
yeah that's what I thought
some of the people she coaches have no bar contact when they extend, it's weird
>>36474324
you should do more snatch pulls
>>36474324
>>36474693
How does he do it? I want my snatches to look like this. Pls help.
These are the numbers from the heavyweight category in 1932. So basically, the natty limit.
Extrapolate your opinions.
>>36475413
Do a snatch dl, then lower it back down along the same path and hover it an inch off the floor. Then do a snatch. The lowering will help you practice keeping the bar on the same path
>>36475413
pull up while using lats to keep bar close, and let bar contact happen incidentally instead of rowing it into the hip pocket and hitting it to get momentum
also take a deep breath before you start first pull and really focus on full extension before you pull under
>>36474373
Pas can ya help me?
I got problems with keeping my upper back tight and not rounding, what accesory should i do?
>>36475534
>no snatches above 120
i know several natural people doing more than that
shoo shoo troll
sup
I use a leather belt right now but i'm thinking of getting a velcro one like pic related
thoughts?
>>36475809
whatever Senpai
for me they feel like they have too much give when you push out your abs but some people may prefer that? idk mate
>>36475751
more front squats
>>36475534
Ur retarded don't no wat u talmbout
The rules back then was you cant have contact
>>36475777
Roid use in sports began in 1954 according to wikipedia, these are 1953's. Is THIS the natty limit?
>>36475809
most velcro I've used wears out after a year of constant use
Get a decent leather one, eleiko used to make a decent wl belt
>>36475888
You still can't have contact this year up until 1964
>>36471930
Man you're so fucking annoying.
Everytime I see your face, I know I'm looking at a man with the brain of a retarded middle schooler.
>>36475888
nope. there are nattys doing more than that, c'mon
>>36475809
ive been using a harbinger velcro belt for the last ~8 months. Fuckin love it
it was only like $14 on amazon. So fuckin what if it wears out in a year.......it was $14
anyone have that webm of two chinese weightlifters just standing around and talking? both shirtless and the short one has a crazy back?
>>36476192
so you dont have to keep spending money retard?
>>36476510
no homo
>>36476522
thanks breh...yea no homo
>>36473083
>>36473172
ive done ~7 comps in the last year n a bit, always enjoyed them and are a good learning experience
>>36476989
>1kg a month
wtf are you doing?
>>36477109
being a weak person that doesnt know how to lift wat else :^)
>>36472879
You're perfectly correct.
and if you watch anything i've done over the last few months I've only been working with 60-100 kg.
I wasn't trying to be pissy, and i wasn't. I just thought it was funny.
>>36473845
as noted above, when I say "working with weight" I'm talking about 60-100 kg.
Again, i'm not trying to be a cunt or anything, I was just pointing out its funny. And honestly, the help that every one has given me in these threads has been seriously awesome, I wasn't trying to undercut that in any way.
>>36475952
I'm sorry to hear that.
I unfortunately just have such a different personality than every one in here it seems that i tend to piss people off.
>>36475141
>>36474846
That sounds completely wrong
Even if you're not a femurlet you can and should pull with a more upright torso
Shins are typically inclined forward at the start and should be vertical by the time the bar is at the knees
>>36477218
she patronized the shit out of me saying that I'm not a coach so I don't really know what I'm talking about
I guess the moral of the story is that there isn't much she can teach me even though I'm a weak fuck
>>36477154
squat more, fuck around with your positions, there has to be something you can do
>>36477354
Can you lift there and ignore her?
>>36477439
if i could fix my stop clarking heavy wieghts thatd b a start
>>36477515
I can but she's pretty angry because I suggested to one of her lifters who was not fully extending to start with a more upright torso. They were basically deadlifting the bar and trying to flop under it which looked really inefficient
like it doesn't really matter I guess but I just wanted to know how she could have such a different opinion from what I thought was basically a given in wl despite her coaching qualifications
I mean yeah crossfit but still
Has anyone here ever had abdominal pain directly under their rib, near the center of the abdomen? I felt a sharp pain during one of my sets (didn't brace my core well enough before pulling the bar) for a deadlift. Worried about a hernia but there is no lump, been icing it. Any advice?
>>36477699
u gon die
jk idk, maybe go to a doc or something?
>>36477849
I'm praying to the Lord Jesus Christ it's just a strain. If the pain persists for over a week I'll probably go see a doc.
>>36474373
I can't find it on your blog. Maybe it was Pent? It was a basic template, just exercises and setsxreps, no percentages, but it was 'programmed' for, like, months.
>>36476519
>$14 once every year and a half
get a job
>>36478369
you havent had a velcro belt pop off mid lift in comp because u dont compete and weak
>>36471930
are you really attention whoring in wlg now too as well as plg? sad
what bb type accessories can I do with just a barbell? or should i bite the bullet and buy some oly dumbells?
>>36478750
Rows, several; presses, several; curls, several; lunges, several; RDL, SLDL, goodmornings; etc
>>36478750
>oly dumbbells
Pretty much anything you can do with dumbbells you can do with a barbell
>>36478813
anything i can do with a dumbbell i can do with ur mum XDXD
>>36478976
Jokes on you o have two dads
>>36478813
Barbell flies are g.o.a.t.
>>36478976
Why did i laugh
fucking kek
>>36475809
i have this exact belt , really like it, have it for about 3 months now and the velcro still looks as brand new.
>>36475888
>>36475534
knowledge on training and technique has increased a lot since they, as have a few of the rules
>>36475751
front squats
pause front squats
also maybe i guess
rows
pullups
back extensions
sit ups
side bends
planks
bridges
just in case u kno
>>36477109
http://www.allthingsgym.com/tran-le-quoc-toan-profile/
>at 14 years old, Toan signed up for weightlifting at 56kg. After 7 months, we won National Youth championship 2005. In his first 3 years, his PRs went up 10kg a year. In the years after, he increased 5kg.
10kg a year is fine desu senpai
>>36477205
you dont rly need to feel the wrong positions imo
i know its a huge stereotype, but just try to hit the positions right, film yourself, watch yourself in a mirror etc
do this with no bar, then a stick, then empty bar etc...
just train for positions whilst getting your weightlifting specific strength up (ie heavy clean/snatch pulls, high bar squats, front squats, push presses)
>>36478193
i dont think ive posted anything like that
do u mean this?
thats just some output from my program programming program, ive also changed it a bit since making this but whatever
>>36479688
not him but you sent me that program about 3 weeks ago, also been doing it for 3 weeks now
there was nothing wrong with it right
>>36479733
no it's fine
I use the program to make my own programs (with some adjustments to certain lift frequencies based on what I want to focus each training cycle, and then sometimes slight manual modifications too)
haven't snatched in a while (weeks) and my receiving position was absolutely dogshit, really depressing, even at 50%
been doing lots of power work and light full work instead and powered 85kg pretty easily last week but couldn't even do full snatches without wobbling and ugliness tbhfam
Any ideas for some drills to make you remember how to snatch properly? Did some muscle snatch and it was ok I guess
>>36479879
If that happens to me (feeling out of touch with snatch) i just load to 50% and start working on positioning, 1 at a time, adjusting foot angle/width and grip width etc until it feels natural again
>>36479879
>tfw I power everything
I cant get down lads
How can I make the most out of developing strength for weightlifting without doing the lifts?
I'm going to wait a year until I can start but want the strength, are snatch balances, sn and clean pulls good enough over a year as well as focus on squats?
>>36480031
squats
push press
pulls
>>36480143
How many times per week should I push press since I don't bench. Originally I was going to OHP 3x a week...
Do you think I could PP on top of this say once a week?
>>36477205
>p-pls forgive how retarded ive been
>>36480246
once or twice is ok
also do plenty of bodybuilding
>>36480279
also probs cut down the strict presses a bit
>>36480279
Thanks Pas
Bodybuilding what? Isolation?
Ok, so I have this, what would you add/change?
I'm not doing FS just yet because my back squat is lacking and my FS is equal to BS.
M:
BS
Strict Press
Sn Pulls
W:
BS
Push Press
Sn Balance
F:
BS
Strict Press
Clean Pulls
>>36480321
isolation stuff and whaytever ye, u dont really need to program it, just do some
looks fine
id say you should still do fsq on wed tho
>>36480329
Ah okay, so just some chins/rows/delt raises.
Fsq on top of BS or remove BS?
Should I keep squatting first?
>>36480338
remove bs on wed obv
squatting first is fine
>>36480351
I thought it might have been better because it would give my back squat a chance to increase slightly faster since it would be unlikely that I would make my front squat stronger than backsquat.
>>36480368
twice a week is plenty to make it increase, and the front squat is one of the most specific movements your doing so dont neglect it
>>36480388
Ah okay, well my best BS is now 115kg and my best FS is 110kg
What do u think of pressing, push pressing and bench pressing 1x a week each on their own day while training 3x a week?
Also Pas can I do pushups and situps and curls and shit erry day? You said do whatever u want whenever u want
>>36480441
>i jus want to look aesthetic brah
>>36480441
fine
might be a bit much, twice a week is plenty
imo its far easier to stall from too much training than too little
>>36480506
>twice a week is plenty
thats y ur so small
Lads does anyone know that feel when your coach says your snatch was very impressive. Feels good.
Even though it's only bitch weight.
What does it mean if a weight is easy and then 5kg more is hard to balance overhead? Weakness?
>>36481020
It's like I pull it high but don't get under in time and when I do, I feel unstable. Is it probably confidence/balance since I'm a new lifter?
>>36477664
There are lots of really really bad coaches involved in cf with certificates
Means nothing when they and everyone they teach sucks desu
I knew a cf coach at my last gym that did the same kinda thing in snatches where here was no contact at all, just deadlift it up and flop under. Weird lifting
Just try to do your own thing and ignore her as best you can.
>tfw jumping forward on snatch recovery
Sometimes I come up on my toes
>>36480506
what do you mean by 2x a week though
just press and bench?
Im talking about doing like
bench press monday
press wensday
push press friday or w/e, jut cut it t 1?
>>36481231
3x is a week is ok
desu i just count stuff like press as bodybuilding and throw it in whenever lol
>>36481281
so just do a bunch of volume bbing shit whenever I feel like it whether it's 5x a week or 1x or w/ee?
>>36481291
probs lean more towards the 1x a week end desu
>>36481303
Ive done curlz erryday for the last 3 days iz my biceps gonan fall off? u told me go bananas so i am
>>36481340
idk lets c what happens lad
im guessing ur biceps will probs get lots bigger quickly then stop growing and fall off
>>36481369
Aight I'm go fir it. Then Im do triceps n let biceps heal
>>36481393
careful bro girls dont like it when u get 2 big
>>36481414
I don lift 4 girls I life snatch big weight
Roughly what percentage of your back squat should you be able to front squat if both are trained equally? I can BS 425 and I'm currently learning to FS. Did 275 5x3 last week fairly easily.
Also what are good ways to improve your power cleans? I know explosiveness isn't something that can be trained easily. I assume getting a stronger Deadlift is the best option.
>>36481458
No ur wrong. to get strong power clean you learn how to pull good and high. and get strong explosive pull
Someone pls help me, my 35kg snatch is very good apart from a small jump forward.yet my 40kg snatch is shit, I lose all speed and technique. What gives?
>>36481617
its heavier
>>36481670
5kg makes my technique go to shit?
So I'm just weak?
>>36481795
yes, like if i want to go from 80-85
>>36481795
Ye, it's not a deadlift u can grind. Olympic lifts esp snatch don't work like that
Also think about what you said... Basically saying you have a technical problem, course it will be worse with more weight
>>36481886
This. Until yiu get good consistent tech you tend to lose your shit when youre fatigued/using heavuer weight. You either revert to old habits or just do dumv stuff. Thats why as a begineer you should keep things lighter and ingrain good technique into your CNS before really loading up.
>>36481910
>>36481886
>>36481853
Thanks, so I should just stay at 35 until my technique is flawless and do it over and over again?
>>36482095
Not neccesarily flawless but thats the idea
Just dont take it to the extreme
Spend the BULK if yiur training with weight you have great technique with, but you can make some heavy attempts, but moreso to see IF you can get that weight with acceptable technique
Realize doing one shit snatch a week while doing 100 good ones isn't gonna make u shit at snatches, doing 50/50 or worse, Id worry about that
>>36481458
80-90% of bs
Deadlift won't help your power clean more than doing more power cleans will
>>36481458
You can't get more explosive than your genetics allow you to but you can power clean more than you're doing now because beginners don't actually take full advantage of their explosiveness especially when they can't even lift properly yet
Learn how to lift then worry about explosiveness later
>>36473526
Sickening depth man, mirin
i'm getting a deep tissue massage tomorrow and i want to know what to say so i get my moneys worth
i have poor hip flexibility and some problems with thoracic rounding in the front squat
so do i tell the massage guy to hit hips and upper back? or do i need to be more specific
>>36482651
Just tell them to make it hard and deep
>>36482691
hue. thanks brah
in4 real responses though
>>36482199
I figured being able to Deadlift 600 would help me power clean more than a 500 DL would. Makes sense to me that there would be carry over between the two.
I just started incorporating PC into my routine so I'm concerned about technique atm. If I'm to believe the Internet, SS isn't a good resource for learning proper form on the PC. What's a better option?
>>36482705
Practice and watching Oly lifters clean. Power clean and clean is the same thing. Just different catch height
>>36482705
If you don't want to be a weightlifter it's fine to do the power clean rippetoe style. If you do, learn to full clean from all the resources in the OP
>>36473526
That depth tho
>>36482790
that's the depth all weightlifters squat to. really nothing special
>>36482768
I don't see a link in OP. I'm not planning on focusing on oly, just interested in adding variety to my routine. PCs are just fun. My short term goal is to clean and press 2 plate. My best PC is 210 and I can press 205x5. Would feel awesome to PR both at the same time.
I don't trip, I name.
- /owg/
>>36482841
In Vietnam, the wind doesn't blow, it sucks.
- Benis :-DDDD
>>36482812
Not really, i see lots of max attempts that go just a bit below parallel
Then again when it's not all that heavy, depth tends to increase
>>36473526
>backwards into rack
>nobody there to guide the bar
Not even once
>>36481458
holy shit you can squat 425kg?
>>36483320
damn son
>>36483320
She's strong a fuck but totals less than lifters several weightclasses below her.
Ruhminez me uh sumbdy.
>>36482841
pretty much only deliuge says this
>>36483320
>>36483358
thick
>>36483384
Commisar too, he actually is the one that said this. I asked him what the difference was in the context of attention/annoying and then he didn't post for about a week
>>36483422
oh lmao, yeah i dont get what the difference is, whenever i used just name people always posted under it so i just used trip again.
>>36483320
Those bent wrists tho
>>36483533
none of the weight is on her wrists so it doesn't matter
Is my program fine. I used to lift heavy messing with volume every training all the time but I think I should periodize and focus on my weaknesses. But I don't really know how to organize my program, the weeks and how many reps/sets do at which weight...
Does W1 : High Volume / Low Intensity W2: Mid Volume / Mid Intensity W3: LV / HI W4 : Deload makes sense? x3 because increasing weight because my last comp is in 12 weeks.
>Squat is very strong compared to my lifts and pulls
>Lack consistency in the jerk
>Can pull high in the snatch but slow to get under the bar and slow compared to my clean
>My snatch is getting better but still fucking shit
>My back sucks compared to my quads
>My ass is small compared to my quads and my hip flexor hurt a lot in one leg right now
@93 Snatch 102 C&J 126 Clean 130
BSquat 185 5x160 FS 155
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>>36482705
Nah not really
They're very different movements, the only similarity is they start with a barbell on the ground. Your setup is different, the positions you move through are different, the tempo is different, etc. Power cleans (as a general strength training tool and not the WL variation) are more like box jumps than deadlifts to be honest family.
Catalyst athletics is a good resource to check out. Grab the book if you can
>>36482817
You probably have the strength to power clean way more unless your upper body is way stronger than lower. Most weightlifters who could press like that could power clean closer to 300 or more. I can get 275 consistently and rarely strict press more than 175
>>36483384
I said it once ironically lol
>>36483971
I was only pretending to be retarded
why is there no good chinamen above 85kg
>>36483533
Lol you really don't know what ur on about lad
>>36484403
same reason there's no good russian 56s
>>36484444
why is that
>>36483874
Ur squat ain't that strong vs lifts desu. There's room for improvement but those ratios aren't fucked completely
>>36484454
smaller genetic talent pool. less bigger, heavier chinese, less smaller lighter russian guys
>>36484500
the chinese part makes sense
the russian part doesnt, they have many steppe chinks living in their country why couldnt they just recruit a few of those
>>36484518
Why bother, no point investing in it to slug it out with the chinks when you could invest in a more sure thing
>>36483422
idk if i said that but
trip is for gay lads and naming is for kool kids
lads im 175cm 88,8kg ~14%bf right now, what weightclass would suit me?
Im bulking right now was thinking bout bulking till ~94 and then cutting down to ~9%bf
>>36484537
im watching the chinese nationals at 94kg, literally everyone except lui hao is weaker than lu despite being 20kg heavier
>>36484608
Yeh but tbf this is true of most 94s not just Chinese ones
>>36484756
why is the 94 class such a joke mate
>>36484768
Idk desu even at local level 94 seems a weak catagory maybe cos u might as well b 85 or 105
>>36469626
Let's see if I can upload webms using chrome...
>>36485360
Can u make a webms not of klokov for once?
He's cool n all but cmon let's have something more relevant to current weightlifting?
>>36485604
I have lots, but I'm not able to upload them :/ That klokov one went through because it's 700kg only... But anything more seems to be too much.
>>36485652
this is so gay
dluge is okulov good snatch chinemen
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDRdNqkCktB
guys i suck at front squats
>>36486071
What with ur new 'why max classic if I can't squat 200' shit? U mentioned it the other day and it's so arbitrary. Nothing magical happens. What's the point in maxing if you can't squat 210? 220? 300? 400? Why even lift at all?
>>36485652
Dear trappy-chan
Ahn~
Love,
Hime
>>36486168
its kinda a joke man
point is until you really can't get your strength up (or you have sufficient strength to break records/lift some arbitrary target you set youtself) you should be constantly trying to push your strength up as a priority
>>36486244
Idk desu senpai I think most people's limiting factor is rotten tekkers
Just work on both
>>36471295
lol she killed herself a couple of months ago
>>36486365
im not saying strength is a limiting factor, im saying you shouldnt prioritise hitting heavy sn/cj over progressing on ur squats or pulls
im saying u should prioritise strength training and on the comp lifts just do lighter tech work to fix ur shit teck
>>36486380
Really? Sauce?
wow
i hit 170 squat and did 160 for three doubles to backoff. then i missed 120 clean and jerk. want to kill myself.
there's plenty of explanations but they dont really matter
now i have the next two days only one session and both light. then spring break training
Just hit myself in the nose with a broomstick whilst practicing the snatch movement at home lmao
>>36487034
Love I've done the same with a pvc pipe
>>36484403
yang zhe had the snatch silver medal at 2014 worlds yo
>>36484768
>94 snatch wr is just 1 kg above 85 snatch wr
they just overweight 85s m8
>>36485908
no
okullov has good tech tho in terms of russians
oleg chen has chinese type pull but russian angles
>>36486634
follow me shounen i'll show you the way
>>36487467
More like Russian technique is so good one guy can almost snatch the wr above his weight class
Chinamen can't do that
Anyone feel like just giving up hope?
I wasn't too motivated the other day, but the thought of at least competing at local competition made me feel ok
>>36487596
naicu turai ojiisan
but ne
i dont have time to do bar work for a year
Is anyone doing this current catalyst cycle? It's fucking nuts, you're supposed to PR on pretty much every lift every workout
no heavy saturdays, just 6 days a week training with 1kg PRs every day
>>36486634
365lbs
did total of 42 reps with this weight
miscounted on the 1st set and did 8 reps
missed the 7th rep on 6th set
;_____;
>>36488369
your grind face reminds me of those old men cumming inside lolis in my ero doujinshi
>>36488532
>>36488532
>did total of 42 reps with this weight
fucking gross
>>36488893
Ye was supposed to do 6x7 but those two sets just made my life much harder. Other sets felt pretty solid tho. That vid is the 5th set.
>>36486453
Ellen's instagram is still active. Maybe thinking of a different lifter?
>>36489029
>6x7
jesus fuck
Any reason why my hip flexors would hurt when squatting? There seems to be some pain on the descent but not coming back up.
>>36489488
do you hyperextend your lumbar at all when squatting?
i got world class coaching
yoooo the guy who runs mastrength tryna be kirksman now lmaoooo
he's explaining shit that makes it way harder to understand simple concepts to seem esoteric oriental chinamennn
