This is the BIGGEST meme of them all. So powerful and far-reaching. Thinking that you can just eat like shit and somehow go past the natural muscle-building speed, as a natural, and cut the fat off just as fast as a pro, as a natural. Perpetuated by the public not knowing just how many people juice, this meme hits everywhere.
How many of us have done this dirty bulk and ended up with a dreamer bulk? Sure you do still lift and you do still build muscle, but the fat you gain is in so much excess. How many of us had to painfully go through cutting for FOREVER after that dirty bulk? Very rarely does a dirty bulk work out well--actually basically only when the person starts out as a hungry skelly.
If you're a natural lifter, you should only ever be eating at maintenance or at a slight surplus.
So its fine to dirty bulk if im 6'1 130 lbs?
>>36415690
idk anon after my last dirty bulk (240->320) I gained a solid 20 lbs in muscle. Took like two years to get back down but totally worth it.
>>36415722
If you're 130 you need to dirty bulk ya lil string bean
>>36415690
But anon, I am a skelly.
only weak DYELS pretend that dirty bulking is bad
is bad for your general health but calories in calories out
as long as you dont take the diet overboard and only eat pound cake and fried chicken you dont need to eat 100% clean
enjoy food
eat what you like
get stronk
get big
>>36415739
You could've gained that 20 pounds of muscle over 3 years, but just stayed lean the whole time. No fatass looking face, keep your abs the whole time. Why wouldn't you prefer that instead? Not to knock your great progress at all, by the way.
>>36415857
It's much easier to bulk up muscle with some fat and then go on a light cut to trim it away in a few months
Gained 35 lbs and then cut back to 190, took half a year
>>36415888
It's only easier because you're a lazy fuck who probably doesn't even know exactly where a slight surplus is for yourself so you just go overboard to make sure you're in a surplus but that results in extra fat gain and longer cuts, which is less efficient. Slight surplus > anything over
It's not for me. I did it once and I hated having a little gut, it felt disgusting, no offense to bearbros but when you're not used to it it's like wearing a fanny pack made of flesh around everywhere.
I'd rather just take my time and put on mass slowly. I have a pretty solid physique, I'm not in any rush.
>>36415690
Fucking retard, just because u cant dirty bulk for shit doesnt mean everyone is autistic like you. GTFO
>>36415888
You can only put on muscle so fast. You hit that cap. Adding extra fat cannot, does not help you add any more muscle past that.
See >>36415910
>>36415915
Exactly! Admit it or not, most of us started out by wanting to look good naked. Why would you want to not ever have a six pack and chiseled face?
I just use dirty bulking as an excuse when I'm a lazy fuck who got fat.
>>36415953
Recover well fatty
>>36415953
recover well fatty
Eating like shit is bad for like...4 years, and then you begin to recomp while still eating like shit.
Some of you guys wouldnt know cause you made the decision to stay intermediate forever and regulate your body with meticulous dieting rather than strength/athleticism.
>but like why would i think about my progress 5 years from today, or 15 years from today
Cause at the end of the day the ultimate variable of being fit is staying consistent.
Your textbook diet doesn't mean shit if you dead stop lifting for a little bit, and now youre back to square one.
You guys need to start thinking ahead, do i want to eat like this for the next few decades, do i want my life to revolve around fitness?
Just fucking relax. Have some pizza. Have some beers. You got a LONG journey ahead of you, so make it fun.
And I know 1 out of a few thousand of you guys are anal and love to take shit 100% serious, so do your thing. But dont go around telling people not to dirty bulk cause this shit is legitimate for long term success in fitness.
>>36416217
because looking like you actually lift in clothes and having a little tummy is greater than having abs but being skinny
nothing feels better than being massive and jacked
eat moar
>>36415953
recover well fatty
>>36416808
There's a middle ground between having a gut and being skin and bones. I'm mostly lean muscle and I prefer that look.
>>36415722
Eat everything dude. Drink a gallon of whole milk per day . gomad is laughed at but you are who it was fucking designed for. Go get it. Get big.
>>36415953
Too late, my mom already had breast cancer....
>>36415953
recover well, fatty
>>36415690
>i did this one thing
>it didnt work for me
>everyone else is stupid for doing it
dirty bulking is so tried and true its like lifting weight itself.
>>36415953
recover well fatty
>>36415953
Recover well fatty
>>36415953
recover well fatty
>>36415953
recover well fatty
People are different obviously, have different standarts and expectations. My personal opinion is that you shouldn't overindulge in shit food. no need to be a meticulous autist about nutrition nor training but i would advise against the opposite as well because you will not see a lot of results as a natty. As I said people are different some may eat shit and look good other need to be a bit more conscious about the choices they make.
>>36415690
lol you're a whining little bitch OP
>>36415953
nanomachines, son
>>36416808
Keep telling yourself that, fatass.
>>36416808
This, also I love food more than abs anyway, no one is ever going to see me shirtless
Currently dirty bulking out of skeletor mode
>>36416808
You make the exact same extreme dichotomy as HAES retards. Either you've got a lot of fat or you're a skeleton, no way in between. Unsurprisingly, you're both landwhales trying to find excuses for having no self control.
>>36415690
i fall for the dirty bulking shit for far too long.
it's honestly just and excuse to be a fat fuck and eat w/e you want , for the last year i just at pretty lean state and only gain 2-3kg over the winter and lose them after, never got more female attention than right now,i'll probably never try and gain over 5kg max for a bulk.
>>36418014
Shoo Shoo
>>36415787
only fattys in denial believe dirty bulking makes sense if you arent juicying.
Who gives a fuck about abs? I bet you're one of those skellyfags that has abs but looks like shit even tho you've been training for 2 years. And there is a reason why people bulk usually on winter u dumbfuck.
>>36415690
My rules for dirty bulking as a natty are pretty simple.
Eat as much as i like as long as its good quality food, not pizza and doughnuts, sweet shit, and other nonsense fatties throw down their necks on "dirty bulks".
If i put weight on too quickly I scale it back, its literally not rocket science. Although I have respect for people that treat it like rocket science, it is however a trade-of between effort vs diminishing returns.
Benefits:-
- Being 105kg at 6ft and strong as fuck
- Only having to estimate macros
- Still enjoying food
- Great recovery times and general strength gains
- Look tank as fuck
Cons:-
- Annual 6 week cut before summer
>>36418142
I definitely care about my abs. I'm cutting for summer right now in fact. And I look pretty damn good.
>>36415690
how fast are you supposed to "bulk up" then, without going dirty?
>>36418156
I'm able to put on size slowly and steadily by eating a lot of protein and going like 250-500 calorie surplus.
>>36418154
???
Are you dumb? Did you read my last sentence? You bulk, then you fucking cut before summer, literally the most obvious shit ever, if im dirty bulking during winter to get big i wont keep fucking crying because "uhhh mu 6 packk!!"
>>36415953
recover well fatty
>>36418170
Most people go too ham on the bulk to get a solid 6pack before summer. You're not going to drop a big fucking keg in 6 weeks.
I do a moderate bulk during the fall/winter then start cutting down in like feb-march.
>>36415953
Recover well fatty.
Lifting is the biggest meme ever. If you aren't on gear then your physique will be shit.
>>36415953
Recover well, fatty
>>36418201
This is one of the dumber things I've read today.
>>36418201
oh boy here we go...
>>36418145
This
Personally I eat as much good food as it takes to feel full and usually end up with a 500-700 calorie surplus. Sure I gain more fat than I need too but I don't mind at all, it's not like I'm actually fat
>>36415953
Go away evil dogger
>>36415953
Recover well fatty
>>36418201
>quite the sweeping generalization you just made there
>>36415953
recover well fatty
>tfw did GOMAD
>got fucking gyno
classic, thanks /fit/
not even a joke, I just really hope it's fat storage and nothing else
>>36419146
>consuming non-grassfed nonorganic diary
You deserve it
I bet you avoid soy too
>>36417968
>I love food more than abs
There is literally no difference between you and fat acceptance people
>>36419392
It's a journal, not a diary!
>>36415953
recover well fatty
>>36415953
Recover well fatty
Dirty bulking involves building muscle because of increased insulin not just test. Dirty bulking is not a long term strategy, many people who do it are way of on calories consumed and how hard they actually workout. Dirty bulking does not mean no cardio, and no its not a reason to drink sodas. Mcdonalds hamburgers yes, high fructose corn syrup no.
>>36415953
Recover, well fatty
>Man, I'm starving, but I've already consumed my +250kcal lean bulk surplus and I really care about being shredded
>Sorry, no beer for me, I might put on some fat and become ugly
>>36421128
If your starving then you get to eat. Beer does not count as eating and also increasing your estrogen levels
Dirty bulking is for fat lazy niggers
>>36415690
>2016
>not roiding and still caring about what you eat
I don't care too much about my physique. I would if I was a fat fuck or skinny twink but until then I eat clean, eat a lot and lift heavy
all i do is eat terrible food and lift. dirty bulk for life
>>36421563
That's called being fat, not dirty bulking fag, eat a goddamn vegetable
>>36421595
>eat a goddamn vegetable
okay
It depends on the person, I started working out at 5'8 210 and went to 148 within a year and I've been bulking for 6-7 months now and I weigh 166.
Haven't been counting anything, just eating everything in sight, some days I can tell I ate a bit more and some days a bit less but I workout 6-7 days a week and I'm 19 currently, I think if you are older you need to have a more strict diet and you can gain fat faster but for my personally at this age just not overthinking it and getting the proper protein in has been awesome
>>36421563
Theres a line between not being overly concerned with your appearance and straight up having no self respect. I get not wanting abs but really anything above 20% is DYEL territory
>>36421201
This is the real meme
A couple of beers with dinner won't give you gyno you fucking pussy
>>36421702
Over time yes it will. Your probably 20. I'm 27 . All my friends who just had a few beers every night have noticeable bitch tits. The fat ones and the skinny ones. But hey chug em down bro. Like I said summer is around the corner so do you want to look good or fucking awesome. These things matter
>>36415888
>in a few months
>took 2 years
pick one
>>36421563
