Motivation
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Can we get a Motivation thread going?
What got you to start lifting /fit/?
Ever lose that motivation? What happened? How did you get it back?
>>36380373
b urself n anything cn hapen!!!!
wen u feel weak, just b stron, u can do all you drem of
comin' in hot with some OC
>hitting PRs
>>36380373
this one is for manlets.
This isn't a motivation thread, it's a fucking cringe thread. Jesus.
>>36380396
Masturbating to traps and shitposting on /fit/, of course
>>36381421
Unless he's a manlet.
Anyone have the "I will act now" one by og mandino? Really helped me
>>36383274
>>36383285
>>36380547
I like it.
>>36386331
gtfo with this tripe
>>36386420
fuck off with fat hate, this is supposed to be a motivation thread.
>>36386309
someone mentioned in another thread, I didn't even think of it the first time I saw that
>starts in an electric wheelchair
>moves into a manual chair
not only did she lose weight, she's even operating on her own power to get around.
that motivates me to keep strict on my diet.
>>36386309
fuck, that's amazing, I'm so glad for her.
How to motivate my NEET younger brother? He's a complete social outcast and it pains me so much to witness his miserable life. His views are so awfully pessimistic, breaks my heart, because he has such potential.
I mostly blame my parents, who are pushovers that lets him have his way and thinks he'll sort it out by himself, even though he hasn't shown ANY sign of this.
>It's just a phase
No, you are just a shit dad who's afraid of confronting your own son. My dad is a psychologist, and how he can't read the signs is mindblowing.
My brother
>Is incredibly picky with food, diet like a 8 year old
>Is entirely stuck in his daily routine, every day is identical
>Doesn't have any friends
>Probably never touched a girl
>Face destroyed by acne, probably because of shit diet
>Incredibly socially awkward, is clueless even in the most basic of social situations
>Doesn't want to talk with anyone, barely even answers my parents at the dinner table
>Has the most autistic habits that he refuses to shake
>Example: He doesn't like the taste of toothpaste. Instead of just getting used to it, he spends 10 minutes after brushing his teeth continuosly spitting to get rid of the taste
>Has no plans for his life, whatsoever
During one of our very few real talks, he admitted to
>Enjoying pain and seeing how much he could take.
Hearing that sent fucking chills up my spine.
He does play basketball like 5 times a week, though, and I suppose that is what keeps him going.
HOW DO I HELP HIM?
>>36386495
There you go
>>36386709
You should do the quote
'Man cannot remake himself without suffering , for he is both sculptor and the marble' or whatever it is , Alexis Carrel
>>36386621
He is 18, by the way. He graduates from HS in a couple of months, will be interesting to see what becomes of him by next autumn - my parents might be weak, but not so weak as to let him live in their house without getting a job or studying.
Can't see him making it through a job interview.
I have spoken about this a little with my parents, but they just don't seem willing to accept that at some point they need to step in.
I think the problem stems from a non-existant father figure. Our dad went through a depression when brother was aged something like 11 until he was maybe 15. He was like any kid until that period, where he slowly but steadily lost all his friends and everything got stuck in a negative spiral. I'm 3 years older than him, and our dads depression didn't effect me the same way (I practically abandoned my family and spent all of my free time at a friend's place instead, really only came home to sleep).
I just want my brother to be happy. I think the best thing would be for him to visit a psychiatrist, but I have no idea how to sell that idea to my parents - and doubt that they'd have the spine to make him go, because he'd refuse.
Please help me senpaitachi
>mfw
brahs i have this one problem that is really bothering me
i used to be fat all my life and into my teens, of course i never had women show interest in me
now that i am actually good looking, muscular etc i see women checking me out, giving me the eye, being very nice to me etc.. but i can't flirt, turn the convo sexual.. i really don't know what to do.. my brain is completely blocked, i never had women show affection and now i think it's just them being nice? i feel confused and even tho i know that i could get girls, it's not happening do you brahs have any advice?
it also feels hard to be motivated to talk to girls of course becuse i really don't know what is happening, how to flirt or anything.. damn
>>36386820
Force yourself to say hi and compliment girls. That's your workout. Keep doing it consistently and you'll make social skill gains in no time. Right now you sound like a dyel virgin looking for a quick fix. Reality is you're scared of confrontation with grils just like a dyel who's scared to go to the gym. We're all gonna make it brah, remember you just gotta push yourself and not give up.
These two vids will forever change you.
https://youtu.be/w-HYZv6HzAs
https://youtu.be/Ks-_Mh1QhMc
>>36380396
to kill me specifically or kill burgers in general?
>>36386820
Smile, Anon. A smile says more than a thousand words.
... not a creepy smile though. It has to be genuine. Apart from that, I think it'll just take time for you to get used to it until you feel confident enough. I mean, what's holding you back?
>>36386762
If your dad is a psychologist, therapy might be more on the table than otherwise.
Accutane might help his self esteem, but he needs structure more than that. Weightlifting, hobbies, anything. If he's about to graduate high school, he should get a menial job, maybe factory worker or cart pusher. Something to keep him busy, maybe adjust a bit.
You're somewhat right with the need of a father figure, I went through a similar shit show with my loving, but near absentee father. KHV and a bit of a loner outside of uni, but likable. I honestly had a mother who kicked my ass until I had to force myself to stand on my own feet. Though I'm still some degree of fucked with certain people.
Who does he play basketball with if he has no friends? Is he also tall, fat?
>>36387040
For clarity's sake I'm not OP, name defaults to it from an old thread.
>>36386762
>>36386762
Seems to me like he's depressed or anxious, anon. It's pretty common among NEETs. I've personally learned to live with both those things.
Depression is a really, really tough thing to deal with, anon. I can tell you from experience, as a former NEET still dealing with it. It's incredibly easy to fall into these cycles and routines which only make the feelings worse.
He's probably aware of his situation on some level. Nobody really enjoys living like that. but it doesn't seem like he has the resources to improve his life right now (friends, parents, etc). I think you should try to strengthen your relationship with him, make it clear that you're there if he needs you. Ask him to go to the store with you, make small talk, just lure him out of that routine he's built. Just remember to respect his boundaries, you know him better than I do.
There is hope, anon. He's very young. However, graduating high school can be a huge catalyst for change, for better or worse. He may not know how to fill that spare time. Maybe that'll be a good time to hang out with him, lead him onto something more constructive. Just remind him he's got a big brother, and try not to make him feel inferior.
>>36387040
My mom made him visit a dermatologist a few years back, they gave him some pills which I stopped taking after maybe a month. I agree accutane would do him good, but I just can't see him going to the doctor by his own will. He just doesn't want to change.
>Who does he play basketball with if he has no friends?
He's played for a team since he was 7 (though teammates have changed often). I've met a few of his current teammates and none of them appears to actually know anything about him. He doesn't keep in contact with any of them outside of their trainings.
Hell, he doesn't even bother to bring his phone out of his room, because there is no one to keep in contact with.
>Is he also tall, fat?
177 I think. Not in bad shape, due to basketball, but doesn't look good either.
>>36387215
Yeah, I think he is depressed. I know it's tough as shit, but his attitude despises me. I've tried countless of times to give him tips about books that made a positive impact on me, but he's not interested. After the 100th time I just conceded that it's pointless.
>It's incredibly easy to fall into these cycles and routines which only make the feelings worse.
Yeah, and this is where I feel my parents have let him down the most. They just let him have his way. The guy is 18 and, seriously, spends 10 minutes picking out any trace of onion/carrots/what the fuck ever out of his plate of food before he starts eating. It's so terribly embarrassing.
cont.
>>36386621
>>36386762
Your brother sounds a lot like I did, and I can only agree with what >>36387215 says. I already envy him for having a brother that cares about him, and I'm pretty sure once he's out of that spiral he'll be really grateful for what you've done. Be that big brother he needs anon.
The thing is, it's really exhausting for a person without depression to help someone who has it because a lot of things don't make sense for you. Instead of making him read books or something you should maybe just sit down in his room and listen to what he has to say, and by that I mean that you take your time and try to actively listen to his problems, because there definitely is something that turned him into that. Like, who knows, maybe he's gay or is hiding something else from you and your parents. Just get him to talk to you, try to be his best friend.
>>36387215
>>36387322
Time and time again I've asked my parents why they've let him do that, and they say they want him to learn by himself. Well, guess what idiots, he isn't going to.
A couple of months back I pointed out that he drinks 5-6 glasses of chocolate milk a day. He also had some ice cream every night. His diet is already terrible, I said, so why do you keep supplying him with even more unhealthy things? They conceded that I was right, and from now on he'd have to buy that stuff with his own money. When I visited a few days back and had a look in the kitchen there was no difference, so I asked my mom and she kind of brushed it off.
If they can't even stop buying chocolate milk for him, I really can't trust them to do any of the hard things they'd have to do in order to help him. Makes me sick.
>He's probably aware of his situation on some level. Nobody really enjoys living like that.
I hope so, otherwise he is beyond saving. I've tried to help him realize this but he refuses, so I guess it's up to him to face it on his own.
>I think you should try to strengthen your relationship with him
The sad thing is we really don't have a relationship. Like I wrote in an earlier post, I spent all of my time outside the house with friends, and my relationship with little bro disintegrated. I've tried to pick it up, but he is REALLY hard to reach.
cont.
>>36387215
>>36387423
Like, a while ago when we were going to take the train to town together he left the house 30 seconds before me and walked the entire way to the train 50 meters in front of me instead of waiting for me. It was fucking weird. When I caught up with him I asked him why the fuck he did that and he said he was tired and wanted to think.
That's his go-to excuse every time: I'm tired. When my parents ask him how his day was at school, or whatever, he usually says he's tired and just wants to eat and/or he's in a hurry and doesn't have time to talk.
I'd like to have a relationship with him, but I really don't. I've tried to talk more with him, but he's just not interested. I can't force myself through to him (trust me, I've tried that, too). The few times we actually have a real talk he drops bombs like the one I mentioned before, where he said he's
>Enjoying pain and seeing how much he could take.
How fucked up is that? He's a nihilist if there ever was one, by the way.
>There is hope, anon. He's very young. However, graduating high school can be a huge catalyst for change, for better or worse.
This is what I'm hoping for, and what I've been thinking is that I should back off until then and see what happens. I made huge steps after high school.
>>36387517
maybe ur just a fagget and he's tired of u flapping ur gob m8
>>36387372
Like I said, it feels like he doesn't want me there. Or maybe he does, but is afraid to open up to me. Either way, that's probably the best way to go about it. I've probably been too openly critical about him lately (due to frustration), I'll try to change that into being more available to him and try to get him to atleast talk with me.
When staying at my parents, we usually don't say jack shit to each other. Good night, maybe.
>Instead of making him read books or something you should maybe just sit down in his room and listen to what he has to say, and by that I mean that you take your time and try to actively listen to his problems, because there definitely is something that turned him into that.
You're probably right, but we just never had that kind of connection. We're both introverted, he more so than me, and always took care of our own stuff. Our family has never really been open about feelings and that kind of talk family SHOULD be able to open up about.
What do you think about trying to get him to a psychiatrist?
>>36387582
That's very helpful, thanks for sharing.
>>36387517
>The few times we actually have a real talk he drops bombs like the one I mentioned before
well how exactly DID you get to those real talks? what did you do?
>>36386621
>>36386762
>>36387322
>>36387423
>>36387517
Dang man,for a second there with the way you type and the story of your brother, made me think that you were my brother posting all of this stuff.
If your relationship with your brother is bad just try to find something that will help you bond with him like lifting or going out, or video games etc.
Keep in contact with him as much as possible but don't try to seem nagging, it doesn't matter if he likes your or not, as long as you're there for him is what matters.
And good luck.
P.S To remove suspicion you're not from Ireland are you?
>>36387372
Thank you. Something important I forgot to mention.
>>36387517
I understand that you're frustrated. This isn't normal behavior (that's why it's an illness). Kinda like the other poster said, it would be incredibly tiring for you to take on all this trouble alone, and would only end up hurting you. Take care of yourself first.
I guess it would be good to just do the bare minimum for a while, anon. Keep small talk, stay open, no more.
I'd advise to keep any judgement to yourself. It's easy to take all of this personally, especially with all the effort you've put into talking to him already. Just keep in mind he's not just avoiding you, he's avoiding everyone.
That "excuse" you mentioned, about him being tired. That's probably more literal than you think. It's very possible he doesn't have the energy to interact with anyone.
>>36387612
Therapy would be great for him, dude. The issue is getting him to a therapist.
>>36386621
What motivated me at first was liking good clothes but didn't have the physique to pull it off, that and fucking Jojo
>why am I doing ____ so much?
>hmm... that's a complicated answer so let me look at the end results of my action and try to find out if the Why is something that even matters right now or something to figure out later.
>...Seems the purpose of doing ___ too much is to erode my relationships, passions, happiness, and ability to earn a living.
Well fuck, nigga. Looks like you suiciding in slow mo.
But you aren't committing suicide. The deduction to take is that you both want to hold to hope that you will get off your ass and take hold of your life while at the same time wanting to torture yourself.
So, torture yourself with cold turkey. Bash your face against that wall of self discipline until you break your own neck trying. You pussy. You want the easy slow road that numbs you while destroying your life. Use that desire to hurt yourself by using self discipline and you'll find the greatest god damn fear the self destructive part of you is terrified of.
The fear of not being a loser.
Fuck that fear in the ass by pounding your way into sobriety/recovery through cold turkey torture. The result will be this strange shit called self respect and a self discipline, a will power, that will literally put people to shame when they hear about it.
That negative part of you, which many of us have, that bitch ass nigga will be looking to delude you into thinking you are working on your problem when in reality you are just coddling your suicidal desires with "tries". Fuck that part of you and be on the look out for it at all times. It's a coward which means you better fucking respect it's sneaky sabotaging delusions. You'll constantly find yourself being put under the spell of self destructive procrastination and coddling.
Respect your intelligence to find ways to half ass any action you do that will actually result in a positive change. Don't even be upset at yourself when you sober out of a spell of halfassdom. Learn that mother fuckers ways and counter it's tactics.
>>36380396
dafuq did i do ?
>>36387629
Forget to mention that, we were on our way to our summer house and missed our boat. Sat in a café for 5 hours, which got him talking eventually.
I'm not sure how I can replicate that. Also, it's awful to admit but I really don't feel I have the time required to help him through all of this. I work full time, and later I'm going traveling. I've tried, and can't get through, which is why I'm thinking about trying to get him to a psychiatrist.
>>36387648
Not from Ireland, brah. I'll ask him if he's interested in going to the gym sometime.
>>36387658
Thanks man, I needed to hear that. I'll get out of his face. Should have a better idea of what's going on after he's graduated high school, because by then he needs to do SOMETHING.
Do you think I should push my parents to get him to a psychiatrist? Fuck, I'm so disappointed in my dad. He's a psychologist, for fucks sake.
>>36380396
I'm ok with this. Better to be killed by someone who trained to kill than just some fag with a gun in a movie theater, church, school, grocery store, or work place.
>>36387748
you were born outside of whatever country they were born in
>>36386621
Okay anon. Im pretty drunk at the moment, but i Just want you to know that i fucking feel better for my problems just for knowing that you wanna help your brother.
On the advice. Tell me about his views on life, you said he was pessimistic, in which sense?
>>36387789
I would have that talk with your parents, yes. It's their place to take care of him, not yours. I don't think you need to understate your feelings when you talk to them. They're grown adults. Just make sure you make it clear it's about your brother, not you.
Not much food here but it's enough. I ate like this for two years and went on walks to lose weight.
I was so scared of people seeing me walking though. I rarely left the house and was NEET but after fighting with myself for a few weeks or months, I can't remember, I started going out on the back porch at night. Then outside the porch and into the back yard and would walk around the pool. At night of course. Often I'd only get out to do these things once a week. I fought that anxiety like I would any resistance training and assumed that even though it did feel like near 'end of the world' anxiety, it'd be less next time. I also decided to assume that the positive change was happening no matter how imperceptible it was to my reality. That was key. I knew it was of utmost importance to fight to maintain that belife and therefore it became a major battlefield.
I worked my way into walks at night but in front of my parents house. I'd walk up the sidewalk to the end a short ways away and then back as quickly as I could. I was so nervous and scared but fuck it if I didn't keep trying. Night walks became more regular. They became day walks when my fucked up sleep schedule had me walking around sun up. I was more confident at this point and challenged myself to do them more often.
I lost 165 lbs doing that. I started all this shit just to fight my anxiety through doing what was hard for me to do, like anxiety resistance training. I wasn't expecting it to become this, I just wanted to not be so damn scared all the time and kept having to up the resistance level when I adapted to it.
>find what resists you
>push
>monitor your adaption
>increase resistance
>repeat
Biological shit, man. Now I'm at a college, sitting in the front of all my classes (anxiety resistance training), and just got a girls number today after asking her out. WTF, brehs. It's taken years but I still have trouble believing it. It's really possible and anyone can do this shit.
>>36388180
that's awesome to read, anon. It's good to look back every once in a while and admire progress. The feeling never gets old. I'm glad you could push yourself like that.
>>36385086
That's a good one. Thank you,
>>36383285
Kek, did you get this from another thread? I cropped that from my last Ippo read through.
>>36387956
>being okay with getting killed for no reason
C U C K
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>>36387956
I know that this is bait, but lets be fair, anyone who is being professionally trained to kill people is being trained to do it with guns
Also, all these posts and no man in the glass?
>>36388180
Fuckin a-right brah. Love hearing about people who say "fuck that" to their problems and do something about it. Gives me hope mang
>>36388180
those look like costco frozen veggies in the huge bag i am SO SICK OF THOSE wew
>>36386762
Why are you putting it on your parents? Try to do something yourself. I suggest spending more time with him and talking more while looking for a common interest that you can do together with other people involved.
>>36388180
Thats awesome. It's nice to see another recovering NEET. I remember the first time I left my basement after a year and a half of solitude I threw up in my parents roses. After that I started taking the bus just trying my hardest not to cry.
The first person I talked to was a homeless man asking for something to eat. Then someone borrowed my lighter and they complimented me on it (it was a nice zippo) and I said thanks. After that I got a job and made a few friends.
I started 300+ and am now below 200, I can stand to look someone in the eyes for more than 2 seconds, and I'm 10lbs away from my dream of joining the army.
It's weird I'm in my mid 20's and it feels like my life has just started. I'm angry and disappointed in myself for fucking up for so long but I've learned not to dwell on it and take it all in stride. Everytime I make a mistake I think to myself "This is a good problem to have, this is a real problem, this is a problem made because you tried something and failed, keep going and succeed".
I know how you feel about getting a number. I was insanely nervous but turns out shes just as bad a ball of nerves as I am. It was a fun first date.
We'll make it together anon.
>>36388768
How is it bait? I'd be bummed to be killed by anyone but if it's going to happen, as that pic suggests, I'd rather it be by someone who has trained to kill and not just some random asshat that gets his jimmies rustled cause he never got laid.
bump
bump with buff chesus
>>36389411
>when you realise an image you got from here was marked with 9gag
>>36380373
this video increases my testosterone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBbnT-cIDVM
>>36380373
heartbreak x2
>>36386621
>>36386762
Sounds like my brother. When he hit rock bottom he joined the Navy and I swear it saved him from a life of laziness and a heart attack at 40. Boosted his confidence, loosened him up, and he's a much better person overall for it.
>>36389472
That's the manliest shit I've ever seen.
>you will never forge an Iron Man suit shirtless in an industrial factory rocking a mullet and Burt Reynolds stache
>>36380684
BUILD WALL.
>>36386495
What if hating fat people motivates me? Fucking hypocrite
>>36384807
I see critical reasoning is not your strong point anon
>girl used me as a quick fuck in order to "try" and get over her ex bf
>played me, really made me like her
>stopped hanging out with me after we had sex
it really sucks bros. tryna use this as fuel to improve myself even more
>>36391511
Don't catch feelings for hoes. At least you got laid.
>>36388056
He has read a bunch of philosophy, but sees everything in the worst light possible. Determinism, he claims you have no control over your life -probably because that way he doesn't have to take any responsibility. He sees the worst in people, somehow manages to look down on them despite not being very impressive himself.
>>36388834
I have and am trying to do something, you fuck. I put it om my parents because it is the their job to raise their children properly, not the older brothers'.
>>36380396
trying to get a man who'd protect me from that faggot trying to kill me.
>>36380373
>>36387040
I never realised how much a father figure influences a boy until i was much older
My dad was around but basically was a wage zombie for my entire childhood, shit job, only advice he ever gave me was not to end up like him which was good in hindsight.
By age 15 i realized that i was basically being raised solely by my mother which was fine but for healthy social skills you need both parents to be good, basically my situation forced me to look into history for father figures, so i just studied people like Alexander admired his strength and confidence and ability to command and subjugate men and women, then went from there.
Still got personality issues but probs dodged a bullet (especially considering some of the posts in this thread)
Be good father's anons, it matters.
>>36391672
I don't think determinism exactly excludes free will myself, because I don't think free will is a matter of the spirit or divinity. Free will is real precisely because one may believe in it. It's a "real illusion". Believing that illusion affects a person, and they're more likely to make choices which align with what they want, think is good, and feel is "their own". On the other hand, if someone is a pessimistic fatalist, they will more likely make negative choices or resign from making choices because they believe it doesn't matter, which I simply think is a misunderstanding. No one can know what the future holds, and thus we should take this illusion of free will and run with it, because it will benefit us to do so. Anyway good luck with your brother my man..
>>36393053
Yeah senpai, I agree entirely with your view on determinism and have argued those exact points with him as well.
Thanks brah
>>36380373
All the lifts are not chicken shit things. Every single lift in your life plays a vital role. So don't ever let up. Don't ever think that your workout is unimportant. What if you decided that you dont like the sight of your muscles and put down his workout, continuing to be fat? Youcowardly bastard can tell yourself, 'Hell, this doesnt help shit, just one workout in thousands.' What if you turned down every workout and continued being a lazy shit? Where in the hell would you be then?
>>36380547
I can see the tag on the blanket wrapped around him
>>36386309
If she can make it, so can I.
>>36392225
>datfilename.jpg
jealous much?
