High Bar or Low Bar?
Are alternating high bar and front squats 3x5 every workout enough?
Fitness goals: Gain strength (Don't really want to be a fat powerlifter.)
>>35958704
Just do high bar.
>>35958704
Do you want a strong squat which uses lots of muscles, or a squat which has a better transition to oly lifts and sports performance? If those things don't matter to you, then do the one that you like the most.
And are HBS and FS enough? For what? For lower body? No. You need some pulling work, especially because you do HBS and FS. Your posterior chain will get left behind. Add deadlifts / RDL / GHR and shit like that.
>>35958741
>knees going over toes
Someone needs to buy this little guy Starting Strength jesus.
hb is the best of both worlds. it has the best balance between overall weight lifted and muscle involvement. fs is more quad dominant but limited by stablizing capacity of the trunk, lb puts more emphasis on the posterior chain but thats what deadlifts are for. for overall athleticism and development of lower body hb squat is the best option.
>>35958704
>>35958704
Lowbar = works entire leg in a balanced manner, makes you stronger, you lift more weight
Highbar = no hamstrings, meme, lift less weight
I prefer Low Bar, just feels more natural to me.
>lolbar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxVUmAzP1to
>>35959099
Oh fuck, is that what lowbar squatters actually believe?
Somewhere out there is a kid who is struggling and not having the slightest fun with his squat because he can't "activate his hamstrings" during squat, just believing the bullshit some so called "experts" tell. Get the fuck out of here and take that bullshit with you. It doesn't even make the slightest fucking sense, what the fuck.
>>35959117
It's sad to know that man would be able to squat over 420kg if he switched to lowbar, but he chooses to be a memer instead.
>>35959131
>what is muscular active insufficiency
>>35959109
lol fat powerlifter much?
>>35959076
>>35959099
thread has too much bait in it.
I do squats 2 times a week, so I ask the same question as OP. I want to make my squatting more diverse. Should I do front squats or low bar (in addition to high bar)?
I'm a DYEL fag who will never lift any decent weight but I want to know anyway.
>tfw after reading this thread I have no idea what to believe
>>35959200
What's that?
>>35959117
>implying that is impressive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSetGKgCTJk
>>35959246
then refer to fred hathfield, the first man to ever squat 1000 lbs, who believed lb squat to be only for testing/displaying strength rather than building it and advised all athletes, including powerlifters, to do high bar squats
>>35959236
Almost everyone is gonna tell you what's better for THEM and only what they have been LED to believe. Just do whatever feels more natural to you, and gives you the more fun.
But if you want some "science", Greg Nuckols has a great series on it:
http://www.strengtheory.com/hamstrings-the-most-overrated-muscle-group-for-the-squat/
http://www.strengtheory.com/hamstrings-the-most-overrated-muscle-for-squat-2-0/
http://www.strengtheory.com/its-time-to-end-this-nonsense-high-bar-vs-low-bar-squatting/
>>35959274
meme
Lowbar builds more strength and develops more muscle mass.
Highbar has the hamstrings under active insufficiency through most of the range of motion.
>>35959288
>reading greg cuckols pseudoscience
Need I say more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qySRWjqctok
Another win for high-bar squats. Kek.
>>35959296
Kill yourself hamcuck
>>35959307
>using youtube clickbait videos as argument
>>35959296
>Lowbar builds more strength and develops more muscle mass.
Sentences like these make me want to throw Rippetoe in a hole and make him never to be heard again. I'm glad most professionals trainers and PTs don't take him seriously.
>>35959320
Looks like a perfect squat, he's just looking down. get reckt.
im a bodybuilding fag and high bar squats are GOAT.
lead to a masculine leg shape thats more aesthetic
>>35959332
I'm not even talking about Riptits.
Go learn biomechanics. There's a reason you lift less weight with highbar.
>>35959339
looks like dog taking a shit and is about as effective at promothing athleticism and healthy body development
>Squats Highbar
>thinks he is serious about lifting
>>35959356
Which is why "lift high-bar if you want to lift more weight" said no one ever. But "low-bar allows you to lift more weight making you stronger" is pure bullshit, pure nonsense. Read the Nuckols' articles above.
unless you're going to compete just do what's most comfortable
>>35958704
It's supposed that with the low bar you won't be able to get soo deep, whereas as with the high bar you can go atg.
I put the bar just beneath my trap and over my delts. Kind of a middle ground. I go ATG but if I feel that I may struggle more with the HB then I put it a bit lower.
>>35959399
>>35959399
>read cuckol's articles
The guy who says hamstrings are bad for squats?
>>35959368
>- Anonymous, from 4chan
>>35958704
>(Don't really want to be a fat powerlifter.)
the most populated classes in powerlifting are the 83 and 93kg classes
>>35959481
and 83-93kg is gonna be fat as fuck for most men, kek
GTFO powershitters
>>35959505
>83-93kg is gonna be fat as fuck for most men
Only in manlet-earth
>>35959505
manlet detected
>>35959541
>>35959516
average height worldwide is 5'9 you lanky fucks, 90kg @ 5'9 is fat as SHIT
>>35958937
That's how you high bar squat.
>>35959257
>equipped
>>35959572
Let me guess, you are 5'6 and squat less than 4 plates?
Fucking manlets, when will they learn.
>>35959630
I'm 5'9, weigh 155lb and have squatted 365
I am guaranteed, pound4pound, inch4inch, stronger than you
>>35959649
Acually not but if thats your real squat it wasnt far off.
175bw 455 squat, 5'9.
Guessing you are a hungry skeleton, get your bench up and eat more.
>>35959463
He doesn't say that, you idiot.
>>35958704
I prefer high bar for the quad pump. I try and perform the reps quickly, with all the force coming from the quads.
>>35959775
Yeah he does.
>>35960203
Learn to read.
>>35960209
Learn to lift dyel fanboy.
>>35960298
got me there
High bar unless you're a fat powerlifter
>>35961752
>knees caving in
>knees going over toes
>dat back angle
Mark Rippetoe needs to have a long sit down with this dyel asian.
>>35959076
the guy on the left in the powerlifting column used synthol in his delts.
I've never seen anyone that isn't a powerlifter defending low bar(except beginners who just started doing SS).
>>35961956
The only people I see who advocate low bar are always fat powerlifters or dyel n00brz.
>low bar squats are easier on the lower back
-Mark Rippetoe
>>35962005
Anyone got a back shot of based Rip?
>>35959099
>"Oh you're doing low bar squats with 405lbs or as us weightlifters call it, Good Mornings with 180kg?" My high bar squat with 60kg is much more impressive as I actually go through the full ROM as was intended. And in no way am I dyel."
>>35962292
Literally the only argument for low bar: MUH WEIGHT.
>>35962320
I do high bar but I saw something like this in a fedora thread and thought it was funny.
