>Chinese squad edition
A thread for the discussion of the sport of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults and shitposting to a minimum.
>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
http://pastebin.com/1HgVcGam
http://pastebin.com/wCXeXfkk
http://www.chinfl.blogspot co.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mjgz5nmcikhhvnu/28iq3URWUW
>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.
Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists
Commisars new pastebin on bulg.
>http://pastebin.com/u0jiY8sM
>>35948332
>laughingchineseWLrs.png
Should waifu posting be brought back to prevent dead thread?
>>35948757
>waifu posting
not husbando posting
are you gay or something anon?
>>35948789
I am heterosexual.
>>35948757
>waifu
it might be over done and run of the mill but shit man
>espana
Is it possible that heavy deadlifts could make me a little less mobile.
Normally when I am in a starting position for the snatch/c&j, my nack has the same natural curve it would have when I stand up straight, just a little tighter (like in a squat).
This time, my lower back felt blasted, and I just couldn't get in the position I usually do. I guess that is a mental barrier moreso than a physical one, but it felt like I was trying to compress bricks.
Is there any specific work to do for that sort of temporary loss of mobility? Is that when rolling out is helpful?
>>35948914
Lidia is the best waifu, Tatiana is okay tho
>>35949208
I hear a lot of people saying not to roll your lower back. Idk as far as rolling goes if it feels good then go for it has always been my motto, just google it first or something.
If anything needs to be mobilised after heavy deads it's your hips most likely. To mobilise hips I start with just a band tied around my foot, with the other end tied to something solid, and let the band just pull my leg straight out. Then lots of active stretching before doing the lift, plus a bit of rolling problem areas. Afterwards I like to pancake stretch for a bit, death stretch feels great, roll am static stretch my glutes and hams, piriformis, it band, pigeon pose, reclining hero pose, and also low lunge with my front foot out in front as far as possible
>>35949328
Fucking lizard pose, that's what it's called, I had to google it
>>35949328
>>35949349
Thank you, I really appreciate it.
Phew, we are back. Saw last thread died and wasn't sure what to do when I couldn't find a new one!
>>35949221
Lydia is overrated but I will post this to prevent thread from being kill
/owg/ needs a revival
How do I make sure any webm I post for a form check doesn't get flipped and fucked.
who here /about to give up on wl and go back to pl/ here?
>>35949383
>>35949383
Over rated? How so?
She's good, she's hot and blonde. What more could you ask?
>>35949482
>she's hot
That's the overrated part.
>>35949514
>overrated
ok champ
if only i didnt have terrible form maybe i could lift some weights
>>35949536
you should stabilize at the bottom. youre gonna snap your shit up wobbling around like that
>>35949551
he's probably using some shitty non-lifting shoes
>>35949533
she looks worse from the front desu
I'm trying to fix my squat
also i hate having spotters but that gym makes me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>35949604
messed up webm
good enough i guess
>>35949619
no it's terrible your webms always have terrible quality baka
why are you in a power rack if you have spotter
>>35949551
how do i be better at that? more pause squats?
>>35949636
It's a high school gym so their policies are retarded
>>35949648
yea, its ok to sit at the bottom like a deep squat. when you have weight on your back you want to be stabilize your core
>>35949741
i understand the mechanics of a pause squat. im asking if they will help me with wobble or if its because im not bracing properly before the lift
>>35949701
do you lift more then everyone in that room
>>35949815
Yeah doesnt really mean anything. Like being the smartest retard
>>35949862
it does mean something
it means a lot, to me and all your pals in /owg/
i just want you to know that we care and that you should be proud of yourself
keep up the good work, friend
>>35949914
it's getting harder and harder to tell when you guys are rusing me
>>35949604
How do I not cuck my webms like that
Olympic lifting question:
I'm going into college this fall, and I've been lifting for awhile, but I've never done any olympic.
Are there any college teams or clubs that I would be able to learn and compete in the sport?
>>35950036
it's a shame
the bullies have killed /owg/'s sense of sincerity
>>35950106
Yeah, if your college has a team or club. Did you think before asking that?
Anyway, keep up the good liftin.
>>35950172
Sure, but is olympic lifting a common thing among colleges?
>>35949802
i'm saying pause at the the bottom of your cleans, then drive up.
help
>>35950492
>>35950492
rip in piece
>>35950492
pls dont slow your vid down
You've got a short torso laddie
you dont fully extend onto toes or pull the bar into neck/use elbows
You bend your arms quite a bit
Your starting pos is pretty good. It looks a little awkward. I think maybe you should start with your feet a little closer which might help you extend fully. Also in start pos point your elbows behind you. Not really a requirement but i'd recommend it.
You dont really stay over the bar long enough but it might be caused by other issues
this thread is ded so this might be the only advice you get :^(
>>35950492
doesn't seem like you brought your knees back under the bar so you were too upright for your second pull which is why you jumped back
>>35950716
I dont think that jumping back is an issue
>>35949402
Preview it, if it's flipped then flip it you mong, and fix the damn aspect ratio too
>>35949570
Pleb
>>35949604
First time I've seen your feet I think
>>35949802
You are likely losing tightness during the clean, your issues are not just at the start
>>35950074
Fucking flip them, and film in landscape
>>35950249
I guess you get to find out lad
>>35950492
Lots of early arm bend, big jump back, and not staying over the bar long enough before extension, incomplete extension, no pull under. These are the problems I see.
Work on your mobility for a few months
>>35950859
Fucking sexy as fuck, show us your toes
>>35949802
stop listening to what this trip is saying he can't even clean 100kg
dumb wrist
92-100-100-100
legs are kind of tired and it was cold but i blame my wrist
>>35950492
bar is way too far away from your body during second pull
>mobility
>>35951149
why are you trying to give advice? you barely snatch 60kg what do you know about lifting
>>35951008
cold probably fucks with the wrist. how often do you snatch with straps?
>>35950492
There's some fucked up shit going on here dude... Can you do a jumping jack?
>>35949383
as long as we don't go back to mattie posting I'll be happy
>>35951307
I dont :^/
>>35951155
so his bar isn't far way from his chest? mobility in his shoulders isn't causing his snatch to look like it does? good point faggot.
>implying ive snatched in the last 2 years
>>35951366
>>35951149
my left shoulders been hurting the past few days. does this look any better?
Hey, /owg/, I contracted food poisoning last night and I am only just now feeling like I won't shit or vomit if I move. I've had nothing to eat today other than a handful of saltines and a quarter of a banana which I hadn't even finished swallowing before I was puking it back up. My question is: do I max my front squat tonight as planned, or should I stick to a lower percentage for a bit of volume work?
Guys. I'm really depressed and sad and don't know what to do.
I've had patella tendonitis and a sharp pain in my right quad whenver I go past parallel with any amount of weight. Basically means I can't do anything. I've tried to let it heal but it won't heal.
It appears I will have to stop lifting entirely for 1-2 months.
Is that what I have to do?
red pill me on knee injuries /owg/
>>35951507
mattie's cute
i wish i had a weightlifting gf like her
but i have no one and i never will
>>35951946
you lose a lot of power jumping like that
>>35952137
Can you do pulls? Get a hueg upper back?
>>35952375
I don't want to risk doing pulls or literally anything that does legs at all, or this shit won't heal..
I've just been doing pause squats 5x1 for literally a month now just because i cant do anything more.
pulls dont hurt like squats or front squats do... but should I really risk it?
>>35951946
The 3rd pull looks better but that's because its a power.
>>35951946
first and second pull is fucked up
>>35952305
no he dont
he power snatches what you can't clean lol shut the fuck up
>>35951946
Not really, no, you still have the same problems with your second pull, still have a nonexistent third pull, and still need to work on your mobility. Surely you see this?
You aren't hitting the right positions on the way up, and you aren't fully extending. Work on these plus your mobility.
>>35952095
Max everything lad, deadlift, low bar, bench, push press, etc... Included. The explosive diarrhea will give you strength.
>>35951946
You pull wide as fuck and it's probably robbing you of some power. You extend but it's too early/shoulders not over bar long enough.
see >>35950639
>>35952478
he pulls wide because of his proportions even his catch goes wider than his pull
watch other lifters not just your favorite you fucking bulgaboo
OWF PLZ Fix me. I can't ever pull myself under the barbell in cleans OR snatches - it's always basically a power that I ride down. How do I fix this. I have good strength but I don't have the technique yet for these lifts. Tall cleans and tall snatches don't seem to be doing enough and actually improve my abilities
>>35952695
https://www.instagram.com/p/BA-imYbTH2w/?taken-by=norsefat
ayyyy
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>>35952419
>no he dont
yes he do
he loses a crazy amount of power jumping like that. he probably use more energy jumping than lifting the bar. look at where his feet are when he lands, they are 6 inches wider than his shoulder on each side. a lot of beginner do that when they first start snatches. he's jumping and stomping his feet. any coach would correct this immediately. its taking away power from his second pull and causing him to land in a ridiculously wide stance.
>>35952137
have u been stretching foam rolling quad? i get rly bad pain in my right knee/quad if im not keeping up w stretchin
>>35953126
Yes. It's an injury and it seems like a bad one. Foam rolling just hurts but actually does nothing to help....
:C
>>35948332
So again, is this program good for beginner or too much workouts per week?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKCJur9u4pk
Mon
Hyperextensions, 3x10, careful with weight (don't use too much I guess)
Muscle sn + btn sn press + ohs 2+2+2 / 3 sets going up in weight
Deficit snatch deadlift + deficit snatch, with straps 2+1 / 3 sets going up in weight
Deficit snatch deadlift 3 reps / 3 sets going up in weight
"Trapi" which are his swinging upright rows with snatch grip, 5x5 same weight
Snatch grip behind neck press 3 reps / 3 sets going up in weight
Tue
Hyperextensions, 3x10, same weight
No hook snatch 2 reps, "as heavy as needed"
no hook snatch deadlift 2 reps, "as heavy as safe"
hook grip snatch deadlift 2 reps, as above, heavier
strapped snatch deadlift 2 reps, as above, heavier
Trapi 5x5, as above
slow descent and long pause Back squat + front squat with the same weight as one set, 1+1 3-5 sets going up in weight
Barbell squat jumps, 3-5 sets of 10 reps, careful with weight
Wed
Clean + front squat + push press + pause jerk, 1+1+1+1, 3 sets, going up in weight
Clean grip deadlift + shrug extension, 3+3, 3 sets going up in weight, with straps, going up in weight
Press from rack 3 reps, 3 sets, "with care" heavier lifts
Hyperextensions 5x10, careful with weight
Fri
Hyperextensions 3x10
Pause Snatch at knee with straps, 1 rep, 3-5 sets going up in weight
Snatch deadlift + snatch stiff leg deadlift + snatch deadlift + snatch stiff leg deadlift 1+1+1+1, 3 sets going up in weight
Trapi 5x5
Snatch grip BTN push press + OHS 2+2 / 3 sets going up in weight
Sots press 3 reps, 5-6 sets with same weight
Sat
Hypers 3x10
Power clean + push press 1+2, 3 sets going up in weight
Clean grip deadlift, 3 reps "all the weights" (literally, lol), so I assume that is some sort of daily max, then one set of 10 reps
Back squat, 2 reps "all the weights", then one set of 10 reps
Barbell squat jumps, 5x10, steady weight
>>35953356
he's copying torokhtiy videos
but those are pretty much the same workouts they did when he did the training camp in russia
most of those exercises you don't do weights like hyperextensions if you're a beginner just a bar would be enough if you want to finish the rest of the exercises, and the squat jumps he specifically said in some videos that just the bar is enough what's important is speed and try to get as much height per rep
i'd do his programming if i didn't have a coach, actually i'm planning on quitting this club i'm on once my year is up and start lifting on my own again and follow something similar to that
45 minutes before bed of
>quad / hip flexor stretching by death stretch against wall
>groin & hip flexor by on one knee, sink hips in stretch
>glutes by external rotation on floor then slowly lowering chest to knee, adjusting more external rotation and sinking hips / back leg in
can some one just fucking shoot me instead?
god fucking damnit i seriously hate stretching more than anything, its like pulling fucking teeth. its really a cock to the face that its so important to do WL. i wish it was easier / faster or that i just didnt want to do WL so bad lel.
either way, quads and hip flrexors feel super funny right now. fuck stretching lol
>>35953478
>tfw never stretch
I have okay mobility from swimming and I know I need to stretch but it's so time consuming.
>>35953356
>enormous olympic lift, squat and deadlift volume
>5 days a week
>almost every exercise is technique-intensive
>is this a good beginner program
no mate
>>35953573
time consuming and excruciatingly unenjoyable.
>>35953478
>>35953573
>>35953611
Do you guys actually not enjoy stretching? I consume some nests like a chapter of an audiobook, or an episode of something and stretch. It's my me time reach evening.
>tfw should probably stretch every morning too
>>35953606
it's 5 days a week and most of the exercise you can't actually do with weights that are too heavy
there's 2 dedicated squat days in that program 3 if you count the clean complex with front squat on it, it's not heavy most of them are complexes to build volume and technique like the typical russian program
i feel like you didn't actually read the program just saw the massive wall of text and decided it's bad
>>35953710
My issue with this and also with meme lifter torokhtiys program is that there's so little of the actual classics, and the variations are selected not for each athlete individually, but for everyone.
You'll get better results with a coach, following his personalised program, but otherwise, and apart from my criticism above it is perfectly serviceable.
>>35953736
>>35953710
But that said, the second week will likely be different.
Meme lifter Torokhtiy program has an excel spreadsheet to give you what weight to lift each time. And you get all twelve weeks instead of waiting for each to come out. If you so desperately want to follow a Russian program just use the more complete one for now.
>>35953736
>>35953751
The issue here is you're just nitpicking this program that's completely fine for a beginner
I bet if this guy came in asking for a program to follow you'd happily point him to catalyst which isn't personalized either but because everyone thinks it's decent you think it's good as well
Try to form your own opinions and not just parrot what everyone else is saying here
>tfw friends rather listen to supplement pushing roided brosplitters than me
>>35948789
I'm afraid that Lu won't get Gold this year, fuck, he was such a motivation for me, then he didn't c&j last year and dropped out. Do you guys know why he couldn't do it? Was it a bad day?
>>35953965
Ur afraid u won't suck China dick anymore when you realize there's a shit ton of good lifters other than chinks
>>35953452
>he's copying torokhtiy videos
Didn't know about it. Your thoughts on Klokov program vs Torokhtiy program?
I have a coach, but he trains me only once a week. We usually work on technique with light weights.
>>35953983
I don't like Russians and other cunts who can only step up when Chinese lifters are out of the game, fucking betas is all what they are, they only get a shot at the medals when China is out of the game.
>>35953478
>that webm
looks so unreal
>>35953850
>you'll get better results with a coach, following his personalised program, but otherwise... it's perfectly serviceable
>you're just nitpicking >:(
I dunno man, maybe I'd tell him to do torokhtiy program, which is what I actually did recommend
Try to form your own opinions and not just decide to ignore reading the posts you reply to
>>35954099
Russia beat China at worlds before the drug tests and we all know the Chinese are on them anyway...
Russian population 150 million
China 1.4 billion
The Soviet Union would absolutely demolish China if it still existed... So..... ya there's that
So i want to get into oly lifting. Not because i want to be 100% serious about it and compete, but its a fun way to lift and feels way more like a sport.
Probelm is, there's no oly coaches around where i lift. There are some beginner courses, but they are expensive af and include a lot other stuff 2 (like squats, front squats etc.), the time that i would be spending around learning the actual lifts is not that great, and i'm not sure if they are that certified.
I already have a good flexibility and i still do lots of mobility work, so the question is, will i just fuck my shit up if i try to learn the lifts on my own? How far can you get with vids, books, recording your every set and starting slowly, doing lots of technique drills etc.
Has anyone here learned them on their own?
>>35954908
where do you live
>>35954920
Finland
>>35954922
its a rough position
you'll probably find it really frustrating to learn since they are very technical lifts and you won't even know what you're going for
its not impossible but it might take a while
if you're just doing it for fun its not that bad
i don't know
go for it i guess
>>35954908
Geordil taught himself
You'll be fine
>>35954942
p-promise?
i think i fucked somthing up.
yesterday i was squatting and something in my groin snapped, now i feel a little lump there and it hurts when i touch it. the entire zone feels kinda numb when i dont touch it or when i sit, like it's sedated.
what the fuck did i just snapped?
>>35955104
a nerve
quick, run
>>35954930
Not him but I am in a similar position.
Feels sad man. I love weightlifting.
Is there a better feeling than hitting really good maxes?
Hit new maxes yesterday and It was such a rush, never expected this when I started
>>35956404
I recently snatch bodyweight (finally) and it felt super good, was proper happy
Just hit 240kg total at 77 bw
I think I'm gonna make it lads
>>35954942
>Geordil
who?
>>35953671
FUCK no. time consuming, generally tedious and requires alot of concentration (for me, at least for now - maybe i'll get better at it later) on breathing and getting into the right positions, and it can be painful and just generally unenjoyable at best.
if i only had to stretch intensly for like, 1 month it wouldn't be so bad, but the fact that its a lifestyle change pisses me off. its like, i already dedicate all this time in the gym, and all this time doing my food, how much more fucking time do i have to dedicate to this shit...
but I can't complain too much, as this is the life i chose ( ._.)
>>35956939
You must b new here :^)
Pas and slab also self taught for the most part not that they're sensational examples
Best example is clarence
>>35957293
Problem with starting this sport late lad. Same with gymnastics. Those guys at the top of the game never got un-flexible. It's the reason why alot of masters lifters (especislly those that started at master ages) only power or do slit variations... It's the concession to being mega inflexible without having all the time to dedicate to fixing it.
>>35958202
>It's the reason why alot of masters lifters (especislly those that started at master ages) only power or do slit variations...
this is going to be me, even if i ever take it serious enough to do a comp
>>35958639
man fuck that bullshit, 2 yeard ago i couldnt even reach parallel with oly shoes, now i dont only go atg with an almost vertical back but i'm, very close to the front and side splits.
you just have to be consistent
>>35953452
I think klokov did this first if i remember right
>>35953606
it is a good beginner program u nerd
>>35956939
not knowing Geordil
>>35959890
>I think klokov did this first if i remember right
i think klokov did programming but not that style of video where he shows each exercise, torokhtiy did it first
>>35960078
Drusk r u manlet
>>35960368
https://youtu.be/vKCJur9u4pk?list=PLqUZ1PtwV71KxF6VCMLs-V_kVm944lF-x
>>35959370
Whats wrong with doing a power snatch in comp though : ^ )
>>35960368
That video is from like a year ago, if not more.
>>35961014
Nothing. But you should still be trying to improve where you catch. Some people will never have a truly deep catch, but you should always try to improve your positions, and improve your speed to those positions. Problem is with resigning to power snatching is alot of people don't even try to improve things like pull under which you still need
>>35958639
Fucking love this video. Kid in blue looks like he had it
>>35961507
of course. My goal right now (i think correctly placed) is to get my hang snatch second pull and the position my arms recieve in to be consistent. once those are consistent i can start getting under it / 3rd pull.
sound right? or am i missing something important?
Why can i not tighten my core during squats? My whole torso just collapses.
on the subject of taping thumbs for hook grip, how do you all do it? is there a preferable way? do you just cover the thumb? is there a good tutorial?
>>35961834
Your question reminded me that I had a blister on my thumb, so I went to check it and found it had been completely reabsorbed. I didn't knew that was possible.
Anyway, don't use so much that you lose flexibility. I like to take a length about 6 inches, rip it in half, and use one half for each thumb.
>>35961834
use hockey grip tape and cover wherever you get blisters but usually it will wrap most of it. You have to leave the tip open in competition though,
>>35961616
Yeah I'd say so. Pick what you feel needs work and cue that and don't over fry your brain.
I'm not a good lifter by any stretch so feel free to disregard but my best recent lifting has been when I just relax a bit and only think about one thing 'drive with legs' 'pull under' etc rather than worry about everything. That can come after
>>35961818
You should consider squatting with a belt
>>35961834
I should probably be doing this because my thumbs are getting pretty fucked up, I think theres a video on hand care in the op playlist
>>35961616
Good goal imo, you're not going to go from complete beginner to perfect technique without addressing specific issues along the way. I'm currently working on fully extending and getting under faster.
What's the rest of /owg/ trying to do better?
>>35961818
are you holding the air in your gut or your face cus from watching u lift ur face is always super red and veiny which is a sign of not holding your breath right,
>>35961818
maybe u gotta do more deadlifts or good mornings,
>>35961834
use a gauze, way comfier than tape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ephfXmedHU0
>>35962238
>>35962250
How do i hold my air in my gut. I used to be able to do that now it just doesnt feel right, must be doing it wrong
How would goodmornings help?
>>35962275
practice stomach vaccums
>>35962275
it wouldn't help with the air problem but it would strengthen your posteriorly chain.
>>35949536
Elbows up. If you let off the grip a little more is easier to do
Is my squat okay?
Also I have a slightly wider highbar stance than normal, is this ok or will it fuck me up in the long-run?
(pls forgive DYEL-ness)
>>35962416
i cann see your hee lifting up from the floor, even with that shoe.
so no.
focus on driving your whole foot into the floor on your way up
are you guys interested in seeing some rare jareds
>>35963332
forgot the jared
dont let thread be kill
I've been doing squats every single day for the past month(took 2 days off) in preparation for starting Olylifts.
I've noticed my legs don't get tired like any other muscle in my body and even if they feel tight I can still complete my squats for the day without any pain. Is this normal?
>>35964804
ye. But maybe you arent upright enough. Either way dont be worried about squatting too much. It's probably that your legs have adapted to this type of training.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBoObwEQrB6/
knees are clearly not tracking in line with toes. is this bad?
>>35965153
>https://www.instagram.com/p/BBoObwEQrB6/
not it's normal.
>>35965153
yeah but i think he has flat feet. tho he might just be lazy about tech
>>35964581
This autistic fucker with ugly gf?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9n5MPPdC0o
I did my first weightlifting workout in like a month today. went pretty good!
>>35965181
>>35965182
will he have esploding knees in the future from it?
>>35965288
prob not
>>35965347
then why do people say your knees gotta track over your toes?
So i never thoguht of this until JUST now, but I have one arm that won't extend fully.
its extremely subtle (you won't notice it unless I point it out).
I don't think its causing me any issues but is this something I should be concerned about?
Also seriously fuck stretching. fuck fuck fuck fuck i hate it.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBodzRtzH5S/?taken-by=norsefat
>>35965448
>two pillows and a blanket
yous a BITCH dog
On the routine I'm doing, it says something like
snatch (65%x2, 70%x2, 80%x1) x 2
Does this mean that I work up to 80% then drop down to 65% and repeat?
Also I was doing box jumps to my belly button today and it was hard. I used to be able to do box jumps that were at nipple height for 3 :(
>>35965448
no only if you compete would a slight press out matter, if you just do it for fun it doesnt matter
even people with extremely crooked elbows can lock them out as much as they can and it would still count as long as they keep the same bend throughout the lift, press outs happens mostly due to technique error so don't go blaming your elbows for shit technique in the future
>>35965284
No one's gonna comment??? You cunts.
>>35966023
looked a little wobbly but pretty good for first time in a month
can you answer this:
>>35965689
>>35965689
Yeah, they're called wave sets.
I find my form deteriorates a bit when I return to the lower weight. Nothing crazy, I just overestimate the effort required. So watch out for that, I guess.
>>35966023
Who's your friend? He's cute.
>>35966030
sweet, thanks
I would probably be tempted to just do all the sets at 65, then all the ones at 70, etc.
I had to do 10/8/6 x 2 ramping up weight last time for 'conditioning' and nearly blew chunks on the second to last set, just gave up
Good alternative for heavy deads?
I'm on a transition program, just fiddling my diddle until I can graduate, get a job somewhere, and get some coaching and move onto a full on WL routine.
I did a set of 1x5, and then a double at a challenging weight for me, and I was still feeling it Monday, which made my snatch/clean starts feel off (someone mentioned that my hamdtrings might have been fatigued and therefore tight). I still went for it Monday, but then when it came time to squat 5x5 Tuesday I was REALLY feeling it, just beat down. Gave it a break, and came back today to give squats another shot, still felt wack. Yes, I sleep plenty and am eating at a surplus.
I'm gonna stretch more, which I'm guessing will help me stay mobile even if I fatigue the muscle, but would lighter snatch grip deads or something be better?
I just want to be able to progress my squat and have fun practicing weightlifting, so willing to drop the deadlifts if they are fucking me over.
>>35966027
yes that what it means. its a wave
>>35966061
sometimes it's just soreness that goes away when you keep your training more consistent. If you never do high intensity, then ramp it up for one set, you'll feel DOMS for ages.
I did 3x20 good mornings 4 days ago and I'm still feeling pretty sore
>>35966043
Sounds fun desu.
I would stick with the posted format. Wave sets are nice because you get intensity progression, a bit of volume, and some consistency work all without totally smoking yourself.
>>35966061
Just do the clean/snatch variation. Less weight, focus on positioning.
>>35966039
he's the top ranked 85 in the province. snatches 125 and clean and jerks 155. and 160 jerk. Well until our other 85 makes a come back who snatches 129 and clean and jerks 156. I guess there's one more guy who attempted 130/153 in comp but only made 126/145
Viktor Getts looks like the type of guy to hit on your gf at parties
>>35966847
lmao how so
>>35966872
idk, moderately handsome, kind of hipster beard, combover
I can imagine him showing up and explaining that his organic matcha business is really gonna take off soon
>>35965422
if your do it to some extent it will go past your knees , no problem. placing the feet more outwards and outwards pointed than the knee cann cuse some seroius torque, which the knee joint is not made for
have you guys ever dealt with buttwink? i didn't think it was a big deal because my coach doesn't but this new guy at my gym won't fuck off about it
to top it off his is like a thousand times worse than mine too but he thinks its fine
>>35967984
then dont listen to him
buttwink is fine if its jusy pulling our spine straight/neuttal from slight hyperextensuon at the bottom
heres a pic, hope thay it explains it
film yourself an assess
>>35968002
i'll film one next time i go in
i'll post it around this time tomorrow
>>35950492
dont listen to anyone who has thus far commented
its actually very good, besides the jump back.
those people saying "early arm bend" are wrong and i guarantee you they bounce the bar a mile forward
>>35962416
yeh what >>35963086 said
just neglect your back position, go full fuckin retard, as long as that heel stays flat on the ground!
How do you train jumping? i want to try it because it looks fun but every time i try just jumping im afraid of fucking my shit up
>>35968043
well if he would distribute the weight on his whole foot whil maintining proper back position and only going as low as his limited mobility allows him to do it would be alot better.
then work on mobility because thats obviously the problem.
no point in sacrificing form just to get deeper.
>>35965448
Are you not using starret's guide for flexibility gains?
>>35963347
>>35966043
I tried something new with snatches this week... Went 30x3,40x3,40x3,50x3,60x3,65x3,70x2(missed 2nd rep), 72.5x3 for new 3rep PR, then I came back down, 60x3,50x3,40x3,30x3
I know my numbers suck but it was a proper workout, and I could focus on different things on the way up and on the way down
>>35965284
was that a 90kg sn
>>35966887
I think I look like him a bit. I also have glasses and work for a charity. I'd totally fuck ur gril
Gods of OLYmpus, i need your advice. Im doing a transition from PL to WL, slow and steady. How much pushing work can i do, if i do lots of shoulder mobility work? Can i bench once a week? I really wouldn't like to let my bench die (5x125kg and worked hard for it). How about press? How much do you guys do push work?
Beautiful man
>>35961818
possible pelvic tilt
read an article about your hips and ribcage needing to be aligned for max stability. TIghten core to keep it in place
>>35965689
On the topic of getting worse at jumping, I had a 190 cm broad jump a year and a half ago(when I was 14), and now it's gotten lower, even though I squat and do cleans 2-3 times a weak. Also deadlifted 100 kg(or maybe 95 kg, those bars are suspicious) for the first time ever today.
I know this is a stupid question, but are the Cal Strength guys on roids?
>>35970381
only if they are bigger than you
Hey, I'm having a little trouble locking my arms out in my OH squat. I've got my wrists cocked back, trying to stretch the bar and keeping my armpits facing forward. Also trying to keep my shoulder blades pinched together. What am I missing?
Im getting hyped. First i thought that i'd teach myself the olympic lifts (and i've been doing technique work for like 3weeks), but after searching information and consulting people, i understand how important a proper coach is at the beginning.
There's a famous weightlifting gym 3km next to me, and they offer a beginner course (with 16 hours of individual coaching, lasting a month) for ~140$. Pretty good price?
The course starts in 2 months, how should i prepare to get most out of it? i think i will stop doing the lifts on my own now so i won't build any stupid habits, but i may do some technique and mobility work. Any recommendations?
Thanks to the anon who told me to squat 4x week, adding 2.5kg each time.
I'm eating a fuck load and it's working like crazy.
>>35970442
>donnie shankle is bigger than you
>donnie shankle confirmed juicing
>>35971163
I'm so jealous... 140 sounds (to me) EXTREMELY reasonable....
>>35969874
I've heard really mixed opinions on this.
I do not know the answer myself, but anecdotally, I am currently seeing improvements in shoulder mobility, the largest gaines coming from stretching Pecs / doorway stretch, and I'm still pressing with a lot of volume (incline press, some bench press, dumbell bench) 1-2 times a week, body building style volume (2 pl8 for a few sets of 8-12)
I don't know how sustainable that is, or if i'm sseing abnormal mobility increases or not, but thats what i got for ya m8.
>>35971232
or maybe you were just a bitch
>>35971441
donny shankle isnt bigger than me so he is 100% natty
>>35971232
what did your lifts go up by
do you guys take creatine? is it useful for weightlifters?
if you do take it: all year round or do you take a break when you compete?
i heard that creatine causes you to retain water, which is not necessarily the best when you try to make weight for competitions
>>35948332
They all look dyel as fuck..
>>35972514
they're all the size of the average 15 year old american kid. of course they look small, they literally are
>>35970381
yes
>>35972670
hello are you home from school
i wish i started this sport at your age
get a girl from your class interested in the lifts and make her your very own qt wl gf
>>35972705
>get a girl from your class interested in the lifts and make her your very own qt wl gf
>>35972357
it went from 60 to 62.5kg
>>35972357
>>35972800
Not me
Well, 90kg to 140kg and no signs of stopping any time soon.
>>35973008
your the guy who couldnt squat 100kg for more than 2 reps right?
>>35972670
They get tested a lot so who knows.....
>>35973388
Not person you are replying to, but I am that guy. It's going well, I started with 5kg at first then down to 2.5kg, on 110kg 3*5.
>>35973711
yes
i told you and some other guy to add weight to your squat every other day and EAT BIG. but that was only a week ago
>>35972514
Not everyone wants to look like a roid monkey, even if they are one.
>>35973763
Yeah but still 20kg to 3*5, and like 1.5 weeks.
>tfw eating big consistently is like a super power
I guess all I had to do was bitch about the stretching not helping for it to start helping
>>35974270
looks good norsey
>>35974303
r-really
>>35974376
yeah the depth looks good and your form isn't bad for a beginner. your arms are stiff and you swing the bar out a lot but you can fix that.
>>35974270
http://www.traintherightway.com/2010/01/frankenstein-vs-marionette.html
I Increased my snatch by 10kg by simply reading this. like literally the next day it went from 87.5 to 97.5
anyone have hook grip knee sleeves? how do you like them? I don't want any bounce I just want to fend off any tendonitis and other spooky things
also anyone got an eleiko or hookgrip tank? do they fit good? i wanna look jackedXX
>>35974424
interesting
I've definitely spent time on this specific concept, and I've had reps that end up very nice because of this, but consistency is tough for me with all the shit i'm learning all at once.
thanks for the link though, i'll give this a try
>>35974523
You should try doing powersnatch fast before every workout. It's designed to eliminate your ability to use your arms to muscle it up and creates reliance on hip force.
>>35974486
>Does anyone hear hate money?
>>35974523
that link was sent to me by the king of owg kyle harrington too. apparently it helped him a lot.
>>35974557
they're the cheapest I could find
12usd for a pair compared to SBD's 90usd
>>35974552
like, literally just do like 95 lbs as fast as I can while focusing on not using arms?
>>35974588
idk. it was kind of taught to me... you gotta do like 6x4.... You can go pretty heavy with it too. I've done 100kg i think or 90 but you just sort of strap up and do 4 hang snatches rlly fast like jumping jacks.
>>35974670
da fuq
interesting... any videos?
>>35974750
No its something only my coach does with beginners... I can try to find one though
>>35968227
Ilya is about 90% triceps
>>35971885
Chingiz pls
>>35974750
https://www.instagram.com/p/4uatl2weJe/
>>35974270
Actually not horrible Norse
A bit of swing because banging, more mobility gains to come, otherwise keep it up
If I were you I'd try pulling my elbows up as high add I can as you triple extend, I think Klokov and torokhtiy have good vids about this
>>35974574
I'm not sure if SBDs are comp okayed, rehbands are at least
>>35974813
cool, I've actually done those and stopped because I thought it was a bad idea lol.
also why did you call me a whore
>>35974875
because you're the number 1 commenter on every general u whore.
>>35974937
I'M JUST
AN ACTIVE MEMBER
OF THE COMMUNITY
GET OFF MY DICK
>>35974983
I'm quite comfy on your dick actually.
new kanye tn, who hype
>>35974874
Weightlifting doesn't have some daft 'comp okayed' shit you can literally wear anything that meets the specs, you could wrap your legs with packaging tale asking as it didn't go over the size rule
Iwf don't need to be Jews like ipf
>>35975111
Kanye is awful
>>359751
He's dope
Yo familia I can't front squat heavy for the life of me. On sub maximal loads my back rounds. I've been stuck on the same max since October.
>>35975418
try grippin bar w/ full hand, i find that always helps kee my upper back tight
>>35974937
>>35974993
high quality bully
My wrist hurts unless i'm snatching maximal weights
100 now feels like 90, really feel like i'm good for 110 or 115 snatch
Also i'm fixing my squat technique and i'm making progress. Will post later whether you like it or not
>>35975895
i like everything you post
>>35976019
Start your pull with a narrower stance. That's not why your feet do that i just hate it when people use wide stance like that. I think it's an imbalance in flexibility
nice shirt btw
>>35976085
i normally do, but when i'm doing no feet shit i pull with the stance i receive the bar
tymen
>>35975115
Just googled the sleeves, they are within iwf rules, okay for comp
>>35975160
I'm aware that kanye is who people point to when you ask them for a good hip hop artist, but I don't particularly care for his music. The fact that he's completely insufferable probably dyes my opinion of his music, but I don't like hip hop enough to care.
jared is here to save thread from die
i've been sitting in my room stretching my fucking hips / groin /quads / pecs / glutes for an hour
sweating like a hooker in church
the only thing keeping me going is dreaming that i can consistently be able to do this >>35974270
if my "ideal" weight class is 40+ lbs heavier, should i cut down from 13-14% to under 10, and slowly gain weight?
i kinda like permabulking at 500 cal surplus and getting ez squat gains, but dunno if it will come back to bite me in the ass when i actually wanna compete
>>35978544
you should compete at whatever bw you train at for the first few years then only cut when you have a chance of medalling and you'll have figured out which weightclass your body wants to stay at
