Anyone here with antisocial personality disorder? Do you lift appearance only or do you lift for strength as well? How do you incorporate this into your life?
>>35694942
>Anyone here with antisocial personality disorder?
No one does, because this is a made up term invented by psychologists who want to sell blue pills.
>>35694942
Both.
Appearance helps get you what you want.
Strength allows a greater measure of control over other people, both applied and intimidation.
>>35694942
Us manipulators love strength and aesthetics both are useful tools for getting what you want from people
>>35694942
>>35694993
>>35695635
>>35695801
>>35695801
Schioid here. I'm trying to get stronger so I can move a lot of the heavy bullshit my dad bought out of his house when he dies
>>35694942
I want to be strong enough to have lethal bullet throwing skills for when Obama takes away our guns.
I wish I was a psychopath desu. It would be so much easier to become successful and also get laid.
>>35694942
>having a meme "illness"
>>35694942
>antisocial personality disorder
I don't have it. Neither do you. You're just using this """disorder""" as an excuse for you not wanting to talk to people. You don't want to talk to people because you have crippling insecurity. Just grow a pair faggot.
>>35696600
But that's the wrong part. I want to talk to people. I'm in college and I should be surrounded by friends and having the time of my life. But no one seems interested in talking to me so I just end up being a loner who secretly hates everyone while still putting up a smile every day.
>>35694942
I don't like fat people, does that count?
>>35696618
Have you considered you're ugly/creepy/a cunt?
>>35695841
Hey. Starting therapy soon, spent years with depression and have increasingly lacked empathy for others coupled with erratic emotions. I don't know if schizoid or introverted borderline personality disorder or me thinking too much. I hope it's the last one.
>>35697039
That latter combined with growing up lacking a male role model
>>35697307
Yeah my dad was a pothead alchy who had bipolar and killed himself. Male role model of the century.
>>35694993
...viagra? How would that help?
>>35697452
If /fit/ has taught me nothing else it's that all the meme diagnoses (add, autism, social anxiety, et al) are actually code for "no male role model".
> b-but there's no need for the traditional family unit
Want to treat your shit? Join freemasons, lions, rotary, etc.
>>35697496
Will they give me empathy? I lost it when he strung himself up. It was weird, when I found out it was like I was suddenly underwater. That was 5 years ago. Haven't really surfaced since.
not "anti social meme" but i'm pretty solitary and asexual
lift for both, looking nice makes a massive difference in how people treat you. It's probably the reason my company has me do presentations and shit all the time because my coworkers are 90% autismo engineers
lifting for strength is also pretty nice because you can do more stuff in general, also intimidation i guess but only a douche leverages that
>>35696600
anti-social personality disorder is the new term for psychopath/sociopath - the "anti-social" refers to their behaviour being anti-social.
>>35697524
that sounds like depression.
>>35697613
this
also anti-social includes awkward people that are to awkward to be normal but want to be
-source: in college and every awkward girl calls themselves antisocial while still craving social attention
>>35697626
Yeah. Guess I should still get therapy to deal with that. Fuck this life with the sound turn down. When I lift I just get angrier.
>>35697524
Well the entire basis of freemasonry is the moral improvement of members and general improvement of the world through charitable acts. I can't speak from experience for lions and rotary but as they're born from freemasonry and are charitable organisation I can only assume the same is true of them.
>>35697669
That sounds pretty cool. Bit of philanthropy might help me get my head out of my ass.
>>35697711
Contact your local grand lodge (literally google your city + grand lodge) and they'll hook you up with a lodge looking for members if you're keen.
>>35696844
This.
>>35696618
>people don't want to talk to me
>happens all the time
>must be them not me
>I should be surrounded by friends and having the time of my life.
>not looking into the possibility that nobody wants to be your friend because you're a shit person
>it's everybody's fault but mine
>being this entitled
Faggot. Kill yourself.
>>35697730
Thanks anon. I'll look into it. You're a good pocket egg.
Diagnosed ASPD here, probably a psychopath because my dad has around 8 other children with 3 other women and left me and my mom when i was 2 months old and that shit is genetical.
I lift for myself, mostly for appereance, I like to look good just for myself, like if i were a girl and i wouldnt fuck me than im not doing good enough, when i was younger i was fat as fuck because i just didnt give a shit, but now it's easier to get by, people are more friendly. Most of my friendships dont last long because people just felt something is wrong with me after a while, even though i have learned to fake it since puberty and i've become pretty good at it, used to be almost assburger type autistic at age 10-12, other kids grew up but i stayed like that, probably expected them to conform to myself, somewhere along the line i realised that i was somewhat different, but didnt know how, but i have learned that it's easier to get people to like you if you look and act good. The only friends that have lasted me longer than a couple years have similar qualities, most have been juvenile delinquents like myself.
Never had a problem with getting laid, but i have trouble keeping relationships because i get bored really easily with girls, longest i've had was some 6 months with some jewish girl, who was pretty fucked in the head.
>>35697756
>>35696844
>>35697756
Okay so I'm a shit person.
Teach me how to change that. To become a chameleon and be able to say all the right things at the right time.
>>35697767
How do you figure other people out? Is it experience or do you manipulate people and see where it goes?
>>35697805
You're focused on the external, to truly make it you have to work on your defects not mask them with bullshit. Get therapy, make positive changes and become a genuinely more interesting and likeable person.
>>35697838
But some of the most liked guys in my class are huge cunts who don't actually care about people. Some how the all the girls like them but to me they're boring and I can't see why they're so interesting.
>>35697859
They're going to fail. They're all going to be mediocre fuckers who got by on their potential for greatness but never do anything with it. Also, they may seem like cunts to you, but your perceptions are warped as you use 'they're cunts' as a defence word to protect your pride from their superiority. Focus on self improvement and let people in.
>>35697819
I mostly pick up cues, because i dont really listen to a deeper meaning, I dont really form some emotional connection to people when i talk to them, however i do notice things because sometime i get this really focused feeling, like i zone out and it goes smooth, and i figure out what makes people tick and all. Probably because of my above average intelligence or i dont know, it just works, might be experience, but when i look at someone i immediately get a mental idea of what they are like.
I have learned how to get people to open alot and how to get them to say alot of things about themselves without much effort, mostly just come in with a smile, estabilish small talk, usually for shits and giggles because i get bored really easily, i like to fuck with people's heads. I like to divulge personal details, often lies about myself, people really open up if your body language is up to par.
>>35697937
Wow thank you. That's interesting actually. Do you focus on their facial cues or is more of a complete body language thing? Because I try to see how they respond to certain ways of phrasing a question or statement and I take it from there. It's really hard to fake exitement for a topic I think so I kind of know what to talk about.
>>35697937
All I'm reading is this: 'Im insecure because I wasn't validated as a child and possibly abused so I have disassociated myself from people because I am afraid of them. I gain slight feelings of power by manipulating people and maybe pulling wings off flies.'
You can be more than this.
>>35698026
I look people in the face, when they speak i somewhat focus more on body language, when i talk then i focus on the face, but i could be off, i dont really think about that.
Just talk to people more and stop overthinking things, should be easy.
I'm a narcissist who lifts to one day trade up on his gf and achieve my perfect form.
>>35698044
I wouldnt say i wasnt validated, my mother and grandmother showered me with attention, one could say i was spoiled. I'm not really afraid of anything, i do anything i can that amuses me without getting me killed or landed in jail, but thats the difference between high functioning vs low functioning, and thats a whole other topic of debate
In fairly well liked at work and school. But not "hey what are you doing this weekend" liked. Kinda sucks but I don't know what I can do to become more interesting and fun to be with so I lift and try to avoid the dark depressing thoughts. Psychopath no. Anti social yes.
>>35697937
Lol this nigga think he got mind reading super powers
>>35698141
Yeah I read up on high functioning. This is what I'm looking into for bpd. Spend most of my time pulling myself apart and obsessing about my faults, and not empathising with others. But I also have the time to run a business. It's pretty exhausting.
>>35698164
How about you are the one this time to ask "hey what are you doing this weekend", or rather, "hey im going to X wanna come with me", works better
>>35698189
This. You got to make the first move sometimes
>>35698164
Fuck this is me, I have my lads who I go to parties with and hang about at school with but they never invite me to the low key cool shit. I just end up seeing it on Snapchat and just think FUG.
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