Why is
1/2/3/4 touted so highly around here as an easy goal?
for literally anyone thats not a fat fuck those are impressive as fuck lifts that require at least a year of training.
Is it just e stats by people that don't even lift?
Do they not realize how huge people that have these stats are?
Pic related is for 175 lb male
note proficient implies 3 + years of constant strength training with good diet
>>35686257
Same, I rarely see anyone at my gym doing 3 plate squats or 4 plate deadlifts.
>>35686257
It's not that it's easy to get to, but that as long as you're consistent with your programming anyone can attain it (give or take).
There are people that are like "hurr durr i did 1/2/3/4 for reps on my second workout" or some shit like that. Depending on where you start it can take a while. Hungry skelly could take well over a year or two versus someone who played a lot of football in highschool or something similar it could only take a few months since they were really close anyway.
Just go the gym, have fun, and work on improving each time and you will hit 1/2/3/4. Don't worry about estats.
>complaining about a year or less to get 1/2/3/4
>never going to make it
everyone on the internet e-stats, this is fact
for a natural 1/2/3/4 is very impressive, the only guys that I've seen lift noticeable more than that are either on the gear or 220+lbs
What exactly is 1/2/3/4
What is an equivalent using bodyweight calculations?
Eg. OHP. 8x bodyweight
Bench 1x bodyweight
Squat 1.5x bodyweight etc
>>35686934
Plate amount for OHP/Bench/Squat/Deadlift
>>35686934
Ohp 1 plate, bench 2 plate, squat 3, dl 4 plate
Really will take about a year for most channers I think
>>35686998
>OHP. 8x bodyweight
>>35686257
I consider it rather challenging
I'm about 6 months into actually training instead of just fuckin about and my dead is 50lb from capping off my 1/2/3/4
>>35686257
You have to remember, most people train like shit. They half rep 2 plate squats using their toes and wonder why they never get stronger.
>>35687005
>>35687015
1RM or repping those plates?
>>35686257
>At least a year
>Hard goal
Kill yourself
A lot of people shit posting may take steroids or other performance enhancing drugs but not mention it
>>35687335
>>35686697
See, i'm almost convinced these guys are either fat as fuck or bullshitting.
>>35687449
pretty much this, or they're not accounting for like 5 years of calisthenics or team sports prior to lifting, or maybe they worked stocking shelfs in a warehouse & lifted 50lb boxes for 8hrs a day for 10yrs, and had a solid muscle base before lifting. I knew a guy that was a truck driver for a beer company who was pretty jacked, and all he did was load kegs onto a dolley
>>35687449
I can't tell if this is a troll or not, but you are a fucking retard.
Have you never done anything consistently in your life? This is not some unachievable goal after a fucking year of consistent hard work. This is insanely easy. The numbers are all low. You can add 5 pounds every single workout if you keep eating.
People on this board have terrible workouts, call good programs memes, "cut" the second they see the tiniest amount of body fat and generally look like tiny twinks who get happy at 250 squats. You probably fall into this category. It's insanely easy to hit those numbers. They are not remotely impressive. You can most likely do them in less than a year, but any able bodied man can fucking do them in an entire year of lifting.
Have fun never accomplishing anything because you look at good work ethic and say "bullshit there is some catch I'm not shit because I'm a retard it's because of external factors."
>>35687523
""cut" the second they see the tiniest amount of body fat "
So you are a fat fuck.
Everyone i know who does ss/sl/icf/ect takes at least a year to hit those numbers
let's be honest, in the dozens or hundreds of times we've been to the gym, we've probably glanced at many hundreds or even a thousand or two people performing a bench press
how many of them were benching 2pl8 or more?
as a rough guess I'd say I've seen 1000 people using a bench, and somewhere from 10-20 of them were doing 2pl8 or more
>>35687449
>tfw played 3 sports all throughout highschool
>tfw exceeded 1/2/3/4 within 9 months after i started lifting
dont get mad at me because i wasnt a NEET senpai
It's only a fucking trend, OP. Some years ago, /fit/ advocated bodyweight percentages instead of 1/2/3/4. I think it was .75x, 1x, 1.5x, 2x
>>35686257
>1/2/3/4
I never heard of it before I came to /fit/.
Seems a good goal for the new lifters.
But kinda a joke. We had a weight lifting/running/pylo class in high school.
All 1rpm were tracked on the wall for everyone to see by the instructor . The majority did alot more than 1/2/3/4.
At 15 yrs old 218lbs I was at 185 OHP, 325 BENCH, 350 SQUAT, 495 DL.
>>35686860
> me
> 160
> natty
Hit 1/2/3/4 last week
You're making me feel really good about myself anon
>>35687601
See, that actually makes sense.
>>35687584
>TFW when swimmer (butterfly mostly) whole life
>Row is fucking insane compared to every other lift
>pls send help
>just learned what 1/2/3/4 means
>Realize I workout with weight more then all of those.
>mfw
>>35687542
>20-25% bodyfat
>OMG YOU ARE SO FAT WHO CARES IF YOU GAINED MUSCLE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN JUST CUT AFTER HITTING THOSE NUMBERS
Never going to make it, you are mentally and physically weak.
Alternatively, I think some of these posters do the following:
belly bench presses so fat that rom is small AF,
powerlifting squats,
push press,
and deadlifts with 50 peices of equipment
>>35687620
>At 15 yrs old 218lbs I was at 185 OHP, 325 BENCH, 350 SQUAT, 495 DL.
Fucking christ why do I even try
>Thanks, hungry skeleton
e-stat or not, 1/2/3/4 is a good goal to pursue as it can be done in ~1 year by most people and is what I would consider respectable stats
>>35686257
noone ever explained to me what 1/2/3/4 applies to
is it 1rm? 3 reps? 5?
>>35687756
I've always seen it as 1rm, but I don't think it matters much either way
A year into training and i'm on 1/2/3/4
Really not that hard
It's just that to people who lift, it's not a lot of weight? And your on a fitness forum, probably Reddit fitness as well where people do lift and have been lifting for the 1 year or so it takes to get those numbers.
>>35686860
Wtf, I'm 5'10 210 ish, finally got 300 400 500, been lifting I guess for several years, but only recently without fuckarounditis adding 15 pounds to your max every 2 months adds up pretty quick
180 ohp
255 bp
355 squat
405 dl
6'2 195lbs I look like complete shit. That's why 1234 is a easy goal
>tfw four plate highbar squat but skipped deadlift so deadlift went from 3 pl8 to 2 pl8 while squat went from 2 pl8 to 4 pl8
>>35687881
according to what you said, 15 lb every 2 months:
assuming someone starts at 100 lb bench press
it would take 125 lb/(15lb/2months)= 16.7 months of lifting to hit 2plate
>>35687319
reps
I'm stalling before that at
175 squat (HB)
225 deadlift
95 ohp
No bench
8 pullups
115 row
175cm 138 lbs
What do? Switch to intermediate?
>>35687930
No.... 1 rep max
>>35687661
My fellow athlete comrade. I've never swam competitively but I respect your service to the 4chan Association of Athletes.
You are making all of us proud Swim-bro
>>35687934
>138lb
eat more
>>35687934
Eat moar
>>35687934
>those lifts
>138 lbs
>asking if he should switch to intermediate
no nigga, up the calories and keep making gains
>>35687680
>20-25% bf
Jesus fuck that's high. I'm in high teens and I thought that was bad. Unless you are 2/3/4/5 you most likely look like shit.
>>35687949
Its weird, i stopped swimming and started lifting and swimming just for cardio, and im noticing that if i was lifting through high school i could have been so much faster
>>35687906
t b h anon said without fucking around this time, thats what he reached
I started gym properly couple months ago finally 'without fucking around' and I started with bench above 100 pounds.
Reaching 2pl8 already, whew that was ez
>>35687978
He probably has so much fat that he only has to bench 3 inches down
>>35687934
you're a couple inches shorter than me and you weigh almost 50 pounds less. whaddafaq nigga go eat something
>>35686257
154kg squat
144kg bench
185kg DL
89kg ohp
104kgx5 power hang clean
Less than 2 years of training. Also spinal injury unrelated to lifting.
Stay weak my friends
>>35687906
For a natural is what was said to what I was replying to.
who starts at 100 pounds? That is extremely week, and you could easily add 5 lbs a week just from eating more.
That is a bad starting point for this and you know it.
Assuming they hit the 1/2/3/4 in 1 year, 1.5 or so
And 15 lbs every 2 months. They can get another 90 lbs in a year or if 5 lbs a month in a year and a half.
So one year to 1.5 to get to 1/2/3/4, and another 1 year to 1.5 to add another plate a side.
Obviously lighter people may not be able to do this, ohp is extremely hard as well. but i is not as difficult as your making it seem. Not for squat and deadlift. Even bench, fuck add another year if you want
And I was replying to natural lifters. 300 400 500 is not some unattainable number. Just chipping away at it works
And in 3-4 years your at 300 400 500.
>>35688033
almost anyone who hasn't trained before starts at less than 100 lbs, i was being generous
Obviously its not an unattainable number, but it takes more time than people act like it does.
>>35687620
225 bench, no fucking way you are benching 325 at 15. even the other ones seem off by 100
>>35686257
Anyone who claims 1234 online has to post a body pic, otherwise they don't have those numbers and likely don't even lift at all.
>>35688049
i find this hard to believe. how the hell does someone 16 + not bench 100 pounds, unless they have litterally done nothing physical their entire life
>>35688049
dude clearly said he'd lifted before
>>35688156
wow, you literally answered your own question
why waste space on the thread? fukkin faget
>>35686257
It took me three months to reach proficient but...i don't have a life
>doing permanent damage to your body with a 3 plate squat and 4 plate deadlift
>just to have 1 inch thicker thighs and and a quarter inch thicker back
pants on head retarded
>>35688078
Just because YOU can't, it must be true. God forbid someone not play video games all day, but instead chop wood, throw hay all day and start lifting at 12 yrs old.
You have already become failure.
>>35687620
Calling bullshit on those lifts at 15. very few people in the world can put up those numbers at that age, certainly not from taking a highschool weightlifting class.
>>35688176
Why would you never do anything physical your whole life
What is wrong with you and your parents
>>35688207
>my form is garbage and I'm weak as piss so I'm protecting my insecurities on people whose success threatens my fragile ego
>>35688264
Keep believing that brah.
Your not gonna make it brah.
The people who can't hit those numbers don't try, don't have people around them pushing them and quit. Time to retire this hobby Chad and move on to something else you really want to succeed at.
>>35688267
why would I give a shit about those people? some people just dont want to end of, I dont care what their justifications are
>>35688218
Your attitude is awful bro, you should be taking that as a compliment if you're telling the truth(which you aren't). All my uncles grew up on a farm tossing 50lb hay bales every summer and their lifts were only that high senior year of hs/early college.
But honestly who cares if you make it, you sound like a total ass tbqh.
>>35688156
I started at 95 because I ran long distance and wasn't eating enough to make up for it.
