Is /fit/ caffeine free?
>>35674025
baka desu senpai
>green meme
>>35674025
How am I suppose to ECA stack without caffine? Do I use Clen instead?
Only during detox periods, and I only detox to regain caffeine sensitivity.
>>35674031
this
No nigga coffee is a godly drink
>purposely putting your body into a state of stress
Think about it you retards
I quit caffeine about 3 months ago, I feel amazing.
I wake up and it takes me much less time to feel alert. I sleep when I need to, and when I'm tired I don't feel like I'm about to die.
>>35674075
>why have a job
This is how you sound.
>>35674075
What do you think you are doing when you lift you retard?
Outbursts of stress are good for the body, as long as they are not sustained for a long time.
>>35674126
Google the half life of caffeine.
Coffee till lunch.
Energy drink after lunch
Coffee till bed
>>35674040
>not doing a Ephedrine + Clen + Albuterol stack
You are (not) gonna make it.
>>35674106
>sacrificing your whole life for job
this is how you sound
change job, do less hours
if you cannot manage to live with that then you are simply a slave to someone else
>>35674176
>clen+alb
aren't they the same thing?
>>35674182
That's like superdeep man, now get the fuck out while I have an extra cup of coffee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTVE5iPMKLg
>>35674098
>tip
>>35674190
Kinda
>>35674176
Your entire body is going to shake
>>35674025
> the current year
> cortisol
pick one
>>35674075
>>35674148
>>35674182
>>35674221
>coffee is so stressful
Prove it.
>>35674246
Also,
>potentially protects from cardiovascular disease
>In the 1600s, the popular wet-whistle was beer or gin (and not water), but with the introduction of coffee and tea, it switched from a depressant to a stimulant. It's not surprising, then, that this period (The Enlightenment) was an intellectual boom in contrast with earlier centuries.
>>35674176
>no DNP
Weak.
>>35674213
>>35674075
>>35674098
>>35674148
>>35674182
>hurr aderr I dont like how it makes me feel so it's bad
>>35674182
How's that unemployment treating ya?
>>35674289
You really cant history
>>35674289
>enlightenment
>1600's
>>35674025
I only use it on busy nights at work which are like once a week, so kind of / not really.
tfw drink so much coffee it does almost nothing for me now
hold me brahs
i used to take preworkouts
now i just take 300mg of caffeine. feels about the same.
>>35674413
>hurr
>>35674182
Euphoric
>>35674182
This cunt, not everyone is a neet turbomanlet with mummy and daddys credit cards to back them up
I work 40 hours a week dam near on minimum wage simply to live for that week, eat a dick
quit caffeine and ciggies feelsgood.jpg
>>35675557
kek, get a better job retard
b-but I can't be extroverted without it.
>>35675557
>working minimum wage
Might as become a gay stripper you loser
>Italian roast in the morning
>Pu'er at night
>mfw
>>35674025
>day 2 of NoCaff
lmao no i have like 4 cups a day
>>35674025
Fuck no.
I fucked my CNS and shit up by overdoing the alcohol too heavily the last few years
I shake when I'm not on caffeine super bad, so I avoid taking it. I hope this shit goes away.
I work a full time job making close to 6 figures and never drink any soda/coffee/energy drinks.
>>35675940
If you don't have a greek coffee at least once a day the gainz goblins will visit you and take them
>>35674025
I don't drink much to keep my body PH more alkaline, my family has a history of cancer and I heard it helps. Not sure if it even helps
Other than that coffee is pretty healthy desu
>>35675940
>6 figure pleb
Maybe one day you join the 7 figure club
>>35675965
>anything but black
might aswell just have a juice box then m8
>>35675965
>greek coffee
>>35676003
>not adding creamer to your coffee
Its like you don't want to get big
>>35676003
I prefer something that doesn't taste like how chalk smells
>>35676011
found the turk
![[Nutbladder]_Hidamari_Sketch_×☆☆☆_-_SP1_[2E43FFC2].mkv_snapshot_11.22_[2015.05.31_20.24.13].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7hUFZGl.jpg "[Nutbladder]_Hidamari_Sketch_×☆☆☆_-_SP1_[2E43FFC2].mkv_snapshot_11.22_[2015.05.31_20.24.13].jpg")
>>35676003
This
>>35676043
so why pretend to like coffee then
>>35676036
lmao who the fuck is drinking coffee for the purpose of getting big
>>35676088
Why drink an appetite suppressant without calories when you can drink it with cream and have calories. Were you that kid that needed everything explained twice?
CAPTCHA related
>>35674176
You left out dextrosmphetamine and coke
>consuming caffeine
enjoy your inhibited nutrient absorption and fragmented sleep
http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/vitamins-minerals/the-effect-of-caffeine-on-vitamin-absorption.html
>>35674176
>sir we found him unconscious in the parking lot, there's a bounding pulse and his heart rate is 180
>>35676152
because i like the taste of it?
look all i'm saying is that coffee won't really be a cornerstone in a weight gaining diet. say you're a full grown male who's aiming for something like 3000-3500 calories a day. 1-2 cups of coffee with cream in it, what's that? 60-100 calories in total?
i'm not saying getting coffe without calories is better for the sake of not having calories. i'm saying if you're trying to get big, most of the energy is going to come out of other sources, therefore coffee shouldn't be drunk for the sake of getting big. (while it still marginally helps if you put cream in it)
>>35675709
>Pu'er
based
>>35676003
>Look at me! I know shit all about taste and flavor, but because I'm just like the movie cool guys I'm awesome!
>>35676003
black coffee upsets some people's stomachs, so unless you want to shit out your gains add a bit of sugar or cream.
Not that black coffee taste bad, but drinking it specifically to be try hard is pretty gay imo
>>35676223
>SURELY those guys don't like black coffee. I mean that's just film language to describe a character as overly masculine, right? I bet they replace it with water whenever the character takes a sip.
>>35676183
> calcium
5mg per 150mg of coffee consumed is irrelevant unless you're a woman going through menopause
> vitamin d
the study was done on cell cultures. not rats, not humans.. cell cultures.
> iron
caffeine dose-dependently reduces iron absorption when consumed directly after a meal, but not before. fair enough.
> vitamin b
you piss whatever doesnt get absorbed out anyway, diuretics aren't going to have any effect on the amount that gets absorbed
> zinc
ingested caffeine was found to have no effect on zinc absorption. only injected zinc was found to have any effect, and that was limited to levels of zinc in the heart
>>35676183
this is legit the only reason i try to limit coffee desu
I'm a bit of a coffee fanatic. I usually have a cappuccino every morning, and I often have a dry latte with lunch. Sometimes I make a tea latte instead (which uses less milk), either Irish breakfast or masala chai. Both of those approach drip coffee concentrations of caffeine.
But I almost never supplement caffeine from energy drinks or pills.
>>35676249
It's not even coffee when it's on camera. It's usually chocolate syrup. It photographs better.
>>35676249
I actually know plenty of people in real life who enjoy black coffee. Most say I make better, stronger, pour over than any coffee shop they've been to.
The big difference between somebody who legitimately enjoys black coffee and somebody who is putting on a facade based on popular media is that people of the first sort never have a word to say about people who take theirs with milk or sugar.
>>35676241
And a lot of people can't handle steamed milk in their's and shit it all out.
Just drink it the way it doesn't make you shit your pants.
>>35676307
you got me m8. i'm just pretending to enjoy it to impress my estonian pedophile support group.
>>35676307
Milk is fine but sugar and cream is ridiculous. It's coffee not a cream soda.
Coffee addict here. Drink a minimum of two cups of black coffee a day, and my tolerance for caffeine has become so high that it doesn't even work. Heard that if you drink way too much over a long period (years), you develop headaches when not ingesting caffeine
>>35676183
>>35676281
This guy knows what he's talking about.
Look here: http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/food-beverages/coffee
The sum body of evidence (much more important than single abstracts misinterpreted by laydweebs on the Internet) is that coffee in specific and moderate caffeine in general has little evidence showing it to be a health risk and some showing it may even be a benefit, so long as you're not already hypertensive, pregnant, or have osteoporosis.
who /coffeewithcocoa/ here?
>>35676332
Doesn't even take years. A month at most of regular coffee will give most people headaches/migranes when quitting. They're temporary and not usually that bad. It's because coffee constricts your blood vessels and when you quit after adapting to regular caffeine the blood vessels relax but it takes a while for your circulatory system to return to homeostasis. Basically the blood vessels in your head get bloated and swell causing pain until your body sorts it's shit out.
Add to that some dehydration and quitting coffee can suck.
>>35676350
I like coffee. I like cocoa. I don't enjoy mixing them.
The Stuff You Should Know podcast did a caffeine episode. It was the first time I ever listened to it. It was interesting and positioned caffeine as a double eged sword when it comes to health. Fights cancer but fucks with your sleep, fights althimers but causes hypertension ect.
>>35676487
Speaking of podcasts I listened to bulletproof radio for a few weeks until i realized they were full of shit and just shilling their overpriced coffee with butter (lol mycotoxins) but one thing that did stick with me was the idea of taking L-theanine with coffee. As someone who gets a bit jittery and anxious when I drink coffee it really works. The coffee makes me super alert and feeling like I'm ready to lift all the weight while the l-theanine mellows out the anxiety and keeps me able to focus. It's an amazing per workout.
>giving a fuck about your health when you are alive for a brief period of time in a flying rock
coffee + cigs are a ritual for at least 5 years now
i only eat right to achieve my ideal body and fuck more women, thus getting more pleasure out of life.
this is the only correct answer.
>>35674025
I had six caffeine pills (200 mg a pop) and four big cups of black coffee today. Its past midnight and I can't get to sleep.
I need to wake up at 6:45 for work tomorrow.
I think it might be time to cut down.
>tfw former alcoholic/druggie
>tfw caffeine is the last non-natty substance I ingest
Maybe I can get it down to two cups a day.
>>35676577
god look at all those faggy fucking shoes. girly little flats.
>>35676577
You're dangerously close to overdosing there pal.
>>35676572
A lot of people quit smoking because they stop enjoying it rather than some misguided attempt to be healthy
>>35674182
I enjoy my job.
>>35676241
I drink it to stay regular
>Big bowl of oats, pb and fruit
>Gihugantic cup of black coffee
>Cue fat dump
>Cue great morning
>>35676589
Never mind the case I was thinking of the kid ate two dozen caffeine pills. I thought it was only one dozen.
>>35676451
I knew this board was the place for me, loving the actual informative answers.
Thanks bræh
I stopped drinking caffeine because I'd developed a massive resistance/dependence and heart problems on it due to over use thanks to shitty work shifts.
Now I'm not drinking it constantly, I can use it occasionally as an actual stimulant again, rather than just to function normally.
>>35675557
Go to college then. Get a degree in something useful and wanted on the market place, then get a good paying job.
Get work experience as well while you do it, improve your CV.
Faggot.
>>35676036
I'm Australian so the only people I hear say the word 'creamer' are american fatties
>>35676183
>using fitday as a source
>>35676572
>cigs
>willingly smelling like shit
no thx senpai
>>35676572
>le yolo haha
why are you even here faggot? take your cancer and leave
>>35674075
if it makes you feel stressed you're drinking too much
>>35676325
>Something I don't like is stupid
Grow the fuck up, coming from someone who doesn't even drink coffee.
>Caffeine I.V.
I don't know why but this triggers me.
>>35674075
>Waking up
Think about it you retards
>>35674176
From the thumbnail I thought this was Neuer.
Fuck hell no. I don't take it with any regularity but sometimes you just need a 344mg energy drink with a scoop of pre workout added to get you through that squat session. Or to see god, one in the same.
>>35676451
I drank 500mg+ 5 days a week and easily 250mg on the other two for four years straight without ever taking a break. When I quit the job with free coffee I immediately stopped completely cold turkey, getting almost no caffeine, never had any issues. Was I just super lucky?
>>35678262
Probably. If I go without caffeine for a day I get headaches and feel tired all day.
3 weeks caffeine-free. first week sucks, but you get used to it. I feel like i'm sleeping better as well. i did it for medical reasons though, LPR reflux
Quit my free office coffee. Green tea only now. The withdrawals are fucking terrible, but there's no point in drinking it habitually as you will need caffiene to be at your Vaseline after you develop a tolerance.
I only consume caffeine when I absolutely need it, and because I keep off it the kick it gives me makes me super human. I actually use it socially rather than for work.
cup o' joe in the morning
>comfy as fuck
>that wake-up boost
>guaranteed to move the bowels with regularity
Legit clenching my asscheeks right now
>>35676962
>Go to college then
And we're supposed to take your advice seriously?
College is a big waste of time and money if it's not STEM or Med school
Learn a trade.
>>35676560
>burning out your CNS for that
Shiggy diggy doo
Of course. /fit/ is an xXxStraightEdgexXx board. Junkie degenerate losers have no place here.
>>35674025
The only reason I don't drink coffee is because I don't wanna pay for it. I just never really got into it, so I don't have a taste for it either.
I always have quite the laugh at you silly anti-hedonistic ascetic idiots. Do you fail to realize that you WILL die one day?
I could abstain from caffeine (thereby making me depressed), which will cause me to live this terrible existence a few days more
OR
I could drink my caffeinated beverage (thereby making me less depressed), which will cause me to live this now slightly less terrible existence a few days less
The choice is quite simple, meatheads.
>>35678423
I kind of find this ironic
>Straight edge, no degenerates allowed
>Gets tattos
>>35674246
it increases cortisol levels for 18 hours after drinking, if you drink two cups of coffee 6 hours apart from each other, you're perpetually raising your cortisol levels. Even if you just drink one, it means you're putting stress on your adrenals the majority of the day.
ITT: lots of caffeine addicts justifying their drug usage
>people who don't drink anything with caffeine because they "consider it a stimulant"
>>35678594
/thread
>>35678594
Is this because caffeine or is it coffee in general? I drink lots of decaf so it would be nice to know. You got source?
>>35678759
fucking google you kike
>>35676983
kek I am from the US, but Australia is just as bad
>>35678594
Drinking it regularly "abolishes the morning cortisol response".
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2257922/
How do you deal with the unavoidable post-coffee shitting spree?
>>35674025
I have 2 coffees everyday. What the fuck are you gonna do about it??
>>35679055
It's genetic, senpai. You can't do anything about it.
>>35679055
Eat more fiber.
>>35679055
Coffee is a diuretic and has been used as a laxative for millenia.
>>35679177
>diuretic
>laxative
idiot
>>35674182
>drinking caffeine equals sacrificing your whole life
I hope you're really young, otherwise you never gonna make it breh
>>35676962
God you firstworlders piss me off sometimes. Though that's mostly just just envy on my part
>>35674025
A gram a morning.
>>35674042
Why not just take more?
>>35679377
>Why not just take more?
bcause the shakes and nerves. Detox works fine for me.
>>35674042
Shit based anon, teach me your secrets. How do you do your detox? (For how long, cold turkey or gradual, etc)
I really need it, not because of addiction (I only drink in the morning), but because I need the magical feeling back.
Also, fuck off caffeinelets, just because you can't deal with it it doesn't mean we can't either you massive faggots
>>35679438
Cold turkey for a week usually works, but it depends on body and caffeine consumption. You might need more if you're a heavy user. When I use heavy for a while I take three weeks clean just to get the system completely reset. You'll feel energetic after the first week of detox, and the magic feeling will come back for up to two weeks when you start again.
>>35679177
Dubs confirm you are a fucking retard.
>>35674025
complete caffeine junkie reportin in
just starting my 6-th cup of coffee for tha day @6 o'cloac
I am just retarded cunt and pic very related da fug
>>35674031
No I had a test this morning so I took a scoop of pwo then took 200mg sublingually.
Rip in peace my heart
I drink one cup of coffee right before the gym session. Shit is cash
Coffee is for pussies, real men do adderall
>>35676003
I fucking love black coffee. One of the best tastes in the world to me, though I know other people don't feel the same. Every now and then I'll do a good amount of almond milk and some stevia for a treat, but that's fairly rare. I can't even stomach all those Starbucks ultra sweet flavored drinks anymore, and I seriously don't understand how girls go out and get 3 coffee milkshakes a day. My mom loves Starbucks, and she just gets black from them.
>>35679918
It's dye. Or emulsifier/ protein
>>35680553
Yeah, I couldn't find that picture without the implication, but even beyond the nutrition data it's still humorous.
>>35674025
I usually use about 25 grams of ground beans arabica in a single serving French Press.
I tried to find out how much caffeine I get in the cup.
best I could find was probably around 400mg using this info
Its simple math:
First, caffeine content in arabica coffee hovers around 2.2% - or 2.2g per 100 grams of coffee. Since 1oz is 28.35 grams:
(2.2g caffeine/100g coffee) x (28.35g/1 oz) = 0.6237g if coffee per oz of arabica coffee.
>>35678362
I tried going cold turkey after drinking every day for about 20 years.
Had horrible constipation, moderate headaches and perhaps somewhat counter-intuitively worse insomnia than usual.
I went back on after a week.. much better
>>35674176
>ECA stack
>clen
>albuterol
>>35676577
That looks a lot like my high school
>>35680744
Not using ecstacy-cocaine-amphetamine stack
>>35679918
>2600 calories
That's just 2.6 kcal. That is actually pretty low.
>>35680792
Yeah that's less than one gram of crab (pun intended) Technology truly is amazing these days
>>35674246
>not understanding the difference bwteen stressful, and the bodys stress response.
you must be a yank
>>35675557
do you at least like your job?
>>35680771
It actually was my high school, Cypress Ranch
>>35678985
ty for source based physiology anon
>>35679111
whaaaat but when i down caffeine pills I shit like a god
>>35674098
I stopped taking caffeine for a few days recently and I can second this
>>35674208
>>35674341
Shitposting retards will never learn lol
just ordered some modafinil ayy
When you go off caffeine completely for a month plus, when you take it again on an empty stomach you will be rolling.
I did this with 200 mg caffeine of espresso after a month cold turkey once. Felt like techno viking, brah
>>35676036
>Creamer
>Ever
And Americans wonder why the rest of the world laughs at them for being fat
Im sensitive to caffeine so I live a caffeine-less life.
>>35680792
Kcal = Calorie =/= calorie
Ive give up smoking, eating shit, late night shitposting, every day fapping and porn. If i give up caffeine i might as well go full /monk/-tier and i dont even drink coffee after 16.00. So no and wont be caffein free.
>>35681243
Half-and-half is considered creamer.
lmao hell no
not on my ec stack and pwo
>>35681109
Different chemical effect, just as useful
>>35676285
thats my face whenever i see my ex
I literally dont need caffeine.
No energy drinks, no coffee.
Sleep and eat right and you won't need any supplemental energy.
>>35674025
no, but I can tell you're gains free.
I work at a coffee and sandwich shop, I'll have maybe 5-6 double shot americanos on a 7 hour shift, it doesn't really do all that much for me anymore I just like the feeling the taste and smell give me.
Granted I'm 6'4, 218lbs and have been drinking coffee heavily for the last 5 years.
>>35682068
It potentially has huge benefits.
>10-15% increase in basicaly all measure of performance, from mood through endurance
>reported 12% increase in testosterone
>lowered "rate of perceived exertion"
>relaxed breathing systems
>increased oxygen uptake
>etc.
^_^
>my performance when
>>35674025
fuck no
Spent three months in a mental hospital that only has decaffinated coffee, went home yesterday and had a cup of Nescafé which blew my head off, almost had a panic attack, no more caffeine for me.
>>35682468
>mental hospital
Storytime breh!
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