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Submit your fat hate here.
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i submitted my dick up your mother's asshole last night lmao faggot
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>>35663851
Fatty detected
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>>35663858
>>35663876
Crab bucketers should be shot on sight
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>>35663883
everytime
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>>35663944
FUXJING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>35663944
>>35664059
It's true though, as long as it's in moderation and you're on a linear training program
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>>35663897
Brussel sprouts do taste shit, but what a baby.
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>>35664711
they're tasty as fuck in casseroles.
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>>35664742
Niggah almost everything is tasty as fuck in a casserole
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>>35664758
true.
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>>35664711

Found the guy who can't cook.
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>>35664111
>NOT DEAD
>YET
>mfw
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>>35664821

Go back to reddit you fucking gimp.
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>>35663842
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>>35663876
>Send her to Nepal and she'll really know what it's like to lose weight
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>>35664111

>healthy
>literally in a wheelchair
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>>35663883

Am i the only one who thinks the fatties' answers were not unreasonable in the show?
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>>35663887
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. IS THIS FUCKING REAL LIFE
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>>35665027
Sadly it is
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>>35663867
Fuckin hate that humans of New York shit.

>did a bunch of heroin
>homeless
>hurr durr just gotta keep your head up
>8 million shares

Fuck
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>>35665049
i love that he used they live for that
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>>35663883
>>35663876

What the fuck.
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>>35663883
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So thisisthinprivilege only acknowleges the law of thermodynamics and calorie restriction being a possible way to lose weight when it's "scary" to them. I fucking hate these people.
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Is being fat the ultimate red flag? Are all fatties completely insane?
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>>35665049
Just to check that all the fat shit is propaganda, do we have any science shit (peer reviewed studies etc) that show that thin or fit people live longer than fat people?
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>>35665241
most are just really stupid about food/dieting

the ones that are retarded are the ones who pretend they like being fat and unhealthy
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>>35665216

Fitness advertising is shill tier shit tho
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>>35665103
Y'know, I've never seen the original clip/video.
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>>35665241
Not to the degree in this thread. Fat hate is on /fit/ for years and 80% of it is the same content posted again and again. It's cherrypicking of the worst fat people.
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>>35665241
A lot of them just don't really care, I guess.

The ones to avoid are those into HAES related bullshit, which just means they are allergic to personal responsibility and prefer to blame others. That's a massive red flag.
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>>35665254
Agreed. Only reason I posted is because they're constantly saying eating at a deficit doesn't work and how they run 3 minute miles and it still won't help them lose weight.
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>>35665216
She's right though that losing five pounds a week is unrealistic. What she's too stupid to see is that those five pounds are not purely fat. It's mostly water. I can lose five pounds in a few days no problem, just by avoiding carbs.

>>35665241
In my experience, yes. The top three most unpleasant people I've ever had to deal with were fat women.
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>>35665049
>Double chins are adorable
>Chubbly wobbly fat bellies are cute
>Fat rolls are sexy
>Muffin tops are awesome

This is what hambeast actually believe
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>>35665049
>chubbly wubbly fat bellies

why do they talk like this? do they think it makes them sound cute?
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>>35664194

>implying
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Being fat is the new black. Blame terrible behavior and poor choices kn anything/anyone else other than yourself.
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>>35665352

it's like they're talking about a fat baby
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>>35665020
You're not the only one.
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>>35663867
>YU GO GURL, SHOW EM DAT HELFY BODY
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>>35665020
Yes, I think most of the hate here is just a superiority complex. They can't do what I can, so I am better and can freely judge and dismiss their subjectivity etc.

But I don't care, this thread is just an easy way to remind me what I'm fighting for. I don't really care for the fatties that much.
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>>35665020
The thing is they were completely avoiding their questions and their answers were very defensive while others (specifically the ex-fat girl) was very open about her answers.

Likewise Julius's wife would gladly say what she eats, but the hams wouldn't.
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>>35665396

/pol/ pls go. Not even black. Also that's /pol/tard behaviour your describing. Blaming everyone but yourself for why you're losers.
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>>35664961
This one made me sad, not only has that girl been through some shit but her friends have been exposed as mean and nasty crab bucketers... horrible.

I hate people that try to "diet" and end up actually gaining weight, then instead of using simple logic to see where they went wrong, they lash out and blame everyone else.
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>>35665495
oh god no this is going to dominate the thread
isn't it
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>>35663851
If I wanted your dick up my mom's asshole I'd ask for your one rep maxes.
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>>35665241
Obesity is, Yes. While it doesn't indicate the HAES insanity by default, it does indicate they are at the very least apathetic and/or wilfully ignorant to the horrendous damage they're inflicting on themselves due to their lack of self control.
If they're simply overweight, just go by a case by case basis.
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>>35665495
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>>35665396
That's why blacks love the fatties
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>>35665216
>tw: numbers
ARE THEY ACTUALLY AFRAID OF MATH AND NUMBERS? HAHAHA HOLY SHIT DUDE
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bar in my city does a video game themed club night. nothing but a sea of weebs and fattys go there. the face on that guy says it all.
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>>35665270
we made Julius so popular that you can literally just search for "julius fat" and that's the video that comes up now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6mMpE8AaA0
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>>35665396
Yeah, because racism doesn't exist and being black is just a choice anyway.
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>>35665020
>am i the only one
yes.

Half their answers were non-answers. They didn't want to talk about their health, they didn't want to talk about their diet, etc and when asked about it they would dodge the question. Or lie, at the end one landwhale tried to dodge but after a while finally said that her diet is really healthy and mostly fruits and vegetables. She's like 200 pounds overweight. And multiple times the faties claimed that they were just fat because they're fat, and there's nothing they can do to lose weight
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>>35665127
I hope this is made up
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>>35663887
Jesus christ.
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>>35663876
>that moment you realise housewives shouldn't be allowed on the internet
>calling someone anorexic because their abs are showing

It should be a punishable offense to call anyone "anorexic" if you're a fucking landwhale. Preferably by punching the fat fucking cunts in their or sowing a bunch of them with their mouths to their assholes.
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>>35663842
You can literally see the envy and her pain of being confronted with her health

>tfw you are obese and get to see the god among men flexing his aesthetic muscles
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>>35665020
Are you fucking kidding?
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>>35665828
It doesn't even make sense. I at least understand when they call every thin person anorexic, but anorexic girls are skinny, they don't have muscles. In fact lifting weights is one of the best recovery programs for anorexics
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>>35665772
I'm like 90% sure it is.
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>>35663944
I like how this comic presents the idea that the cookie is a necessity.

Like there's no option to just not eat the cookie.
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>>35665396
Dude there's way more respectable black people out there than respectable fat people.
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>>35665888

What this guy said
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>>35665698
>julius fat
lol even though ive seen it, i just tried it and yep, you %100.
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>>35665861
>STOP STARVING YOURSELF JUST TO SATISFY SOCIETY'S EXPECTATIONS
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>>35665888
Absolutely!

Side note, you guys realize if you don't respond to the trolls, they do go away, right?
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>>35665692
Literally herpes dripping from her mouth.
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>>35663887
She kind of has a point. Its not "just that easy".

You do have to do it for many months/years and be determined.
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>>35666015
"just that easy" refers to what he said he has done to lose weigh.

That she then doesn't agree that it is easy isn't relevant.

Also saying that the boredom of walking causes physical pain as her strongest argument is painfully retarded.
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>>35665049
this somehow makes it more real
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>>35664961
Well, to be fair, she only lost 5lbs in a month. She isn't doing great at the dieting.
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>>35663867
That top girls abs are pretty gross though. The work and dedication she must have had to achieve that is incredible so it's shitty that people are being dicks, but some of them are actually right.
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>>35665666

yeah, just say "scale" and they all will run like there's a hot pizza in front of their doors
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>>35666219
>the "I bet many girls would prefer the fat white guy..." comment
>white

They do realize that all three guys are white, right?
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>>35666219
To completely fair, anybody is preferable over a guy with tribal tattoos.
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>>35664961

>I've seen her destroy a whole pizza in a single sitting

Okay, so, are American pizzas bigger than European ones? Because I'm not fat and neither are my friends, and we can easily eat a medium-sized pizza in one sitting. Is that weird? Even the Domino's or NY Pizza regular pizzas aren't that big. Why would eating a whole pizza on your own be remarkable?
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>>35664961
Ugh, this really hit a nerve. I was bulimic for years in my late teens/early 20s and at times my weight fluctuated quite dramatically and I was so self conscious about it. Obviously no one (with any tact) commented on it, but it was always this huge elephant in the room, sometimes almost literally.
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>>35666416
yes, lots bigger. Its not a HUGE deal if your tdee is like ~3000, but if its closer to 2000 cals and you just downed 1600 in one sitting, its a bigger deal
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>>35666416
Yes. American pizzas are way thicker and have generally a lot more cheese. 1 medium pizza in europe is about 3 american slices.
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>>35665545

If I wanted your one rep maxes I'd go to an Auschwitz camp and starve myself.
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>>35663944
Who fucking makes this stuff?
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>>35666444
>>35666465

Ooooh, that explains a lot. Thanks anons!
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>>35663887
>Going for a walk is as difficult as fixing world hunger

wat
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>>35664961
I'm so fucking glad I'm not a woman some times. The constant in-fighting and politics among supposed friend groups would actually drive me fucking insane.
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>>35665250
http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1001673
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>>35664760
Welcome to Sander's America.
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>>35663887
>cant find time to walk, run, or bike
>cant find time to bike

this is triggering me, biking is GOAT, fuck these fat cunts, im glad they're physically incapable of enjoying my hobby as much as i am
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>>35666611
Same man. I actually just hang around women for sex by now
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>>35665216
Far be it from me to believe a fatty's word as bond but I've been losing 5lbs a week and feel fucking tremendous. Mind you I used to be 330lbs.
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>>35666611

I dont remember fighting with any of my friends about weightloss. We were all fat, but we never got triggered when the subject came up, or even when a few people in our group hopped the gains train.
The trick is to have ACTUAL people as friends and not goblins, like most of the sad people in these stories.
I'd put money on that not being the only incident where those people were cunts to her, shes just not mentioning it.
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>>35665216
>2000 calories
The sad thing is, if they're 200+lbs, eating that calorie count would be enough to lose weight without much effort into cardio at all.
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>>35664711
She's just pissed they're not drenched in salt and butter with a crispy fried crust around the edges.
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>>35666784
Trudat. I miss being able to lose 2lbs per week eating 2000 calories and doing fuck all exercise :(
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>>35665049
>They live
Just spat bubblegum all over my keyboard
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>>35666341
>anybody is preferable over a guy with tribal tattoos.

uwotm9
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>>35666812
>mfw used to be able to cut without having to count calories as long as i wasnt stuffing my face all day long
>now what i feel comfortable eating is just enough to keep me at my current weight without gaining or losing much at all
>actually have to count calories now and be aware of what im putting in my body
>still have 40-60 lbs to go

man, this shit sucks
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>>35666651
biking for cardio is really time consuming tbf
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Drinksoda is basically Katy Perry on HAES.
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>>35665020
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>>35666812
>>35666836
I know that feel
Went from around 330 to 220 in 6 months then 220 to just under 200 in the next six months
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>>35666873
>6 months
*9 months
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>>35666853
i mean, sure, if youve got a busy schedule, but you can also work it into your commute. When the weathers not as shitty as it has been i usually bike to school/work/shopping/etc. i only have a car for bad weather and long long trips, really.

plus as you get better at biking you can go further in the same amount of time, or just do interval work
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>>35666861
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>>35665692
Fuck. I'd feel sorry for the guy if it didn't look like he knows exactly what a shitty situation he's in.
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>>35666416

Diameter of a large pizza from Dominos is 14 inches.
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>>35666861
>>35666902

Prime cutting inspiration. Just look at pictures of her and you'll lose any bit of appetite you once had.
>that clown face
>that pose
>the stuff of nightmares
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>>35666912

....
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>>35666873
well im glad im not the only one, ive been stuck between 230-250 for about 6 months now and it's the most frustrating thing ive ever had to deal with as far as weight loss goes.

it doesnt help that my family has a tendecny to become some sort of cookies and sweets factory over the holidays, churning out batch after batch of sugary goods
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>>35666894
>not cycling full pelt down some of the steepest hills in the UK experiencing the full exhilirating effects of the British Isles monsoons
fairweather cyclists can fuck off
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>>35666951
thats pretty damn funny
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>>35666341
> barbed wire around the bicep
> dumb quotes in cursive
> weab shit
> tramp stamps
> Conji/Hanzi characters without context

Pick yur poison m9
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>>35666504
Guy to the right apparently, jesus christ
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>>35666957
Cheer up buddy. This is a place for hate.
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>>35666957

>tfw even cannibals will not eat fat people

Does anyone have that pic of the serial killer who said fat people were bad for his cholesterol?
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>>35667030

I am cis and what is this?
I mean it, I honestly cannot tell what gender these are.
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>>35667060
The names "drew" and "ronnie" are not helping
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>>35666981
I love you
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>>35667068
Ronnies got mad gyno,m8. Xhe looks like it has PCOS
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>>35663897
MFW thats MFW I taste the as well :/
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>>35667082
>Xhe
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pYDKmDEmlC4&ebc=ANyPxKql3TQDZWA8qr6aQGl7sNtoVav7wewugdLaH8v1LnvG_VyhjLMidjlmWSZrEB83nh4ivOg_7d_Ivlx-mcYukJhzwTGieg
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>>35667084
AGGGH FUCK WHY WOULD YOU POST THAT
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>>35663883
>that one fat woman whose last name is Drinkwater should really fucking try to apply that notion to her life
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>>35667084
AIGERGHHHHHHH
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>>35667119
jellybean drinksoda
some anon came up with that name
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>>35667084
>Brush disappears like it's thrown into a hole.
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>>35666790
thats how you eat them. Fried in butter with lemon next to a steak or pork chop. If that aint a good healthy meal I don't know what is.
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>>35667015

>barbed wire around the biceps
>not worshipping the aryan master race
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>>35665692
Lol even her herpes is fat
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>>35667084
Was just sad until she used the brush.
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>>35667060

left is she, right is he
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>>35663858
This actually isn't cool, she sounds genuinely concerned about him and this guy hurls up in a defensive ball, ready to just put someone down when someone fucking offered him a free steak.

I don't give a shit how fat you are, if you're offering free steak or you're okay in my book.
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>>35666835
Why is he wearing a bra?
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>>35667084
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>>35667084
Do you think she has ever lost a brush?
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>>35667189
shitthathappened.txt
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>>35664711
She doesn't even taste them she just smells them
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>>35665216
Shouldn't thin privilege be seen as motivation for all these whales to lose weight?
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>>35667084
That's Amber Rachdi. She had gastric bypass but she doesn't post pictures of full body. She still has a cute face.
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>>35667221
Shouldn't male privilege be seen as motivation for women to grow dicks?
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>>35667143
...or roasted without salt or butter because you're not a discusting human being.
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>>35667084
>mfw im that big, but male.
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>>35667226
Holy shit, she's getting there
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>>35667186
>>35663858
This. His comeback was funny but uncalled for.

Someone is expressive genuine concern for him, even if it's unfounded. There's no need to act like that.

And looking at how quickly he snapped something so angry back at the girl leads me to believe he may not be getting enough to eat.
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>>35666018
someone caption this with

>disgust
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>>35667255
as if butter and salt in moderation are bad?
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>>35667255
>muh salt and butter are bad for you may may

are you enjoying the 90s? fucking FAGGOT
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>>35667278
holy fuck, she's actually doing it. Good on her.
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>>35667255
>implying there's anything wrong with cooking something in a little salt and butter
Learn nutrition.
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>>35666416
Gloriously so..
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>>35666219
most of these comments are accurate

see:
>>35666341
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>>35667306
>cooking
>little

Deep fried drenched in butter and salt was the original response.

Do you know how to read hamplanet?
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>>35667238
No, it should be seen as them getting their shit together and to stop having a princess complex if they want a man.
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>>35667282
It's called resentment faggot.
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>>35667340
Fried is a broad term.

It never was applied the poster meant deep fried.
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>>35667257
read the sticky you fat fuck
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>>35667359
Fat is also a broad term.
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>>35667278
HOLY FUCK SHE HAS SUCH POTENTIAL
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>>35667359
*implied
Fuck
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>>35667297
Another six months and she could be a /fit/ certified High Test Semen Demon.
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>>35667340
No. it was FRIED. FRIED in butter you dipshit. A table spoon of butter in a small sauce pan. Heat it. PLace cut in half sprouts in the THIN LAYER of hot butter wait till the butter browns. Pour it all onto your plate and squeeze lemon on it. Learn how to cook before you jump down someones throat and pull bullshit out.
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>>35665692
At least he got to meet John Carmack
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>>35666894
yup. I used to have a stationary stand for my bike in the basement before no room in the apartment. In the winter months I'd bike AND sometimes watch tv while doing it.
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>>35667358
It's called a quick way to have no friends.
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>>35666416
She is 5 foot, ofc she cant do a whole pizza in one sitting
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>>35667278
>Holy shit, she's getting there

How far do you think she is from leaving that pasty fuck for a /fit/ high test bro?
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>>35667319
>1000x1000

Hell yes
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>>35667417
As I stated, six months.

Muh dik
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>>35667044
>Does anyone have that pic of the serial killer who said fat people were bad for his cholesterol?
Fuck me, that sounds awesome... I need to read more shit like that, stuff like My Friend Dahmer was fun.
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>>35664973
>Absolutely, good response!
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>>35667084
...has anyone else ever noticed that all these clips are of women? We hardly ever see fat men hate.
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>>35667319

Holy shit I would gladly pay for that heart attack. I need to visit America some day....
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>>35667434
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>>35667374
holy shit good job
she must feel so good
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>>35667257
read the sticky breh. then go out and make it
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>>35663897
Is this the lady that only eats chicken nuggers?
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>>35667374
Damn! She came out looking great. Much respect.
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>>35667505
She's the cheesy potato lady.
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>>35667505
Cheese and potatos I think.
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>>35667384
>reach down someone's throat and pull bullshit out

It came from me. Why would I..be...pulling it from....their throat?

Oh, hey. Look. It's that original post I was talking about >>35666790
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>>35667374
>>35667378
>>35667434
Good for her.
As someone who approached fitness from the Auschwitz end, I can't know what it's like being where she was, but I can only assume it being hell - both to live it and escape it.
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>>35667451
That 800lb tumblr guy was pretty bad the other day
Probably the worst I've ever seen.
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>>35663867
Stale ass pasta, nigga
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>>35667451

If you got it, post it nigguh. I think there tend to be mostly pictures of women because they're the ones screaming most often and the loudest about "Muh fat acceptinz". More visibility
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>>35665049
mein fucking seids
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>>35663944
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>>35667451
The fat acceptance shit stems mostly from feminists.
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>>35666063

When you are 250lbs, there is nothing easier than losing weight. You don't even have to DO anything. You just have to STOP eating 5000 calories a day.
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>>35667257
post pic
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>>35667384
U mad?
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>>35664821

Fuck off to Reddit
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>>35667451

Oh I have some. It's just that fat men generally do dumb shit, they're not as enraging as the tumblr cunts.
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>>35666219
"taking longer than me to get ready"
>literally only wearing a bow tie and braces and pants
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>>35663944
Woah fucking what? All that for ONE cookie?
Nigger I can burn atleast a whole serving size of 5 cookies doing that shit
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>>35666523

Fixing world hunger would be easy.

Just stop providing free food to Africa so farming becomes profitable again.
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>>35667451
Like other fringe insanity movements, HAES has latched onto feminism, meaning that while retarded fattass men certainly exist, they have limited access to the hugboxes and platforms necessary to
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>>35667645
Kek
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OPERATION: Get "ThinPrivilege" on tumblr to lose her shit and possibly kill herself.

1. Go to http://thisisthinprivilege.org/submit

2. Scroll to bottom and submit tihs link:
http://www.thegymherald.com/2016/01/is-it-okay-to-be-overweight.html

3. Give it a demeaning title and select the best check marks

4. Submit

5. ???

6. thinprivilege goes on suicide watch
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>>35667763
this has potential
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>>35666611
>The constant in-fighting and politics among supposed friend groups would actually drive me fucking insane.

Try working in a female-majority office.
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>>35667763
contributing to a great cause
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>>35667763
haha roll
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>>35667763

already submitted
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>>35667763
submited
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>>35667084
>>35667278
>>35667374
That's fucking awesome. The fat acceptance movement is pretty soul-crushing but people like this prove there is hope for humanity yet.
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>>35667763
god like
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>>35667763
submitted
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>>35666175
considering 1-2lbs a week is the healthy norm of losing weight, shes doing pretty good.
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>>35663897
>All I eat is cheesy potatoes
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>>35667763
yes haha submitting that shit
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>>35665322
they have to delude themselves otherwise they'd all commit suicide
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>>35667763
>>35667779
>>35667799
>>35667810
>>35667857
>>35667876
>>35667893
>>35667927
>>35667951
Somebody better deliver when shit hits the fan.
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>>35665828
Lots of fat people are anorexic themselves, no? Or is that bulimia...
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>>35667985
we need more people fucking submitting to get a shitstorm >>35667763
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>>35663887
Assuming not Poe's, if that nigger seriously gets board that easily they have a mental condition. But it's more likely they just can't be arsed.
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>>35667763
>>35667799
moar!!
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>>35663944
Why the fuck is are capitalized. If you want to put emphasis on the fact that enjoying the cookie is important, you'd capitalize delicious. If you'd want further emphasize that, you'd caps cookies, but never would you do it with the fucking verb. What's the fucking point. And why is it always a fucking dude with a girl self insert. These people piss me off.
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>>35667763
>>35667799
can somebody make a separate thread for this? we need more contributing
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>>35665216
I've been triggered by numbers ever since I witnessed an event where seven ate nine.
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>>35667763
Hell yeah, submitted
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>>35666861
What a woman
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>>35668107
>>35668038
>>35667927
>>35667893
>>35667876
>>35667810
>>35667799
>>35667763
>>35667857
>mfw thin privilege goes on suicide watch
>>35667951
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>>35667763
honestly tho that article is fucking money
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>>35664711
Fight me faggot. Sprouts are fucking God-tier, *especially* with chestnuts.
>>35664758
Casseroles are fucking disgusting, what is wrong with you.
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>>35667763
roll get this!
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>>35665772
Of course it's fucking made up. Who the shit remembers "ten months after the waterpark" and then "one month before THAT" etc.? Especially when it's (at least meant to be) a couple of years in the past.
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>>35665070
For every shitpost like that, there are 8-9 funny or interesting stories and pictures. I actually bought his book and it's still on my coffee table
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>>35668150
>Casseroles are fucking disgusting, what is wrong with you.
Fucking what? Casseroles can be literally anything.
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>>35667763

Why would you want her to kill herself? Imo that's very unhealthy behavior.
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>>35664711

Brussel sprouts are amazing, you just need to not overcook them into a snotty pulp.
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>>35668223
There is no hope for some people, it's better to end it quickly.
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>>35666835
Those are legit tribal tattoos, though.

Anon means the shitty "I put about three grams of effort into this" tribal tattoos that look like the temporary tattoos you could get as a kid.
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>>35668333
>that look like the temporary tattoos you could get as a kid.
A ninja turtles or hot wheels tattoo would be pretty rad.
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>>35665049
Yes. It is perfectly resonable to ask an overweight person if they've been to the doctors, because fat people are at a greater risk for fatal diseases and, truth be told, obese people have Metabolic Syndrome which leads to diabetes, strokes, and heart disease

educate yourself you fucking retard
http://www.thegymherald.com/2016/01/is-it-okay-to-be-overweight.html
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>>35665216
i dont think she understands how calorie intake and output works
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>>35668303
Bring water to boil.
Put in sprouts for no more than 5 minutes.
Lightly salt.
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>>35667998
I think you're thinking of bulimic as anorexic people are usually classified from skinny to seriously underweight while bulimic people can be skinny to overweight because you still eat while you almost completely starve when anorexic. Maybe the confusion comes from fat people eating shit food so being malnourished from that = being malnourished because of eating nothing if being anorexic? I apologize if this sounds confusing, English isn't my first language.
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>>35667763
Roooolll
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>>35668223
shut the fuck up you pussy if she kills herself it'll be better for the fucking fit community to not have to hear her fucking complaining
>>35667763
submitted
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>>35668223
She'd lose the weight faster than ever if she does that, like 8 years and she'd be skeleton mode.
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