Testosterone
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I know so little about testosterone, but reading up a little I'm figuring my levels are low.
What can I do to fix this imbalance?
I already eat a healthy diet, am in okay shape, and exercise regularly.
Are there specific foods?
What about supplements?
>>35651877
>Enough sleep
(7-9 hours a night)
>Enough Zinc
(Recommend ZMA as a supplement)
>Enough magnesium
(Also recommend ZMA)
>Enough Vitamin D
(At least 4000 IU per day and don't listen to general health guidlines here)
>Enough fat in your diet.
(.5g or more per pound of bodyfat)
Also there's some conflict about whether or not weightlifting increases your test levels but you should lift heavy anyways if you wanna make it.
>>35652002
surprisingly solid advice.
also, do your squats and deadlifts.
>>35652017
total bullshit
>>35652043
okay
Cold shower twice a day for 5 min. Problem solved.
>>35651877
No fap
>>35651877
Fucking traps
>>35652002
thanks, going to buy ZMA and vitamin D pills tomorrow. Already drink a glass of olive oil daily so should be fine.
>>35652076
I do this too, cold shower for a minute, then warm, then cold again for a minute before I step out.
>>35652086
I'm on day 6 now
>>35652115
...DRINK a glass of olive oil?
>>35652115
NoFap does benefit you in a couple of ways but the way most people go about is ultimately only leading to failure.
Rather than just cutting out porn and jerking off you should realize that there's hardly anything more pathetic than watching another man have sex with a woman you can't be with.
And even if we're talking about lesbian or solo porn you have to realize that these chicks rely on the fact that their consumers can't have sex with them.
So instead of doing NoFap you should get out there, work on yourself and get to the point where you can have any girl you want.
I don't jerk off because I want the benefits associated with it, I don't jerk off because I can have sex whenever I want.
>>35652155
why? whats wrong? romans did this daily
>>35652213
It's fine if you don't get liquid shit
Some people got liquid shit when they drank too much olive oil
>>35652213
If you're not having it next to some meal, you must have god-tier digestive system. Eating fried eggs without bread will make me get diarrhea and cut my appetite for the rest of the day - having fats without something fibrous / carbs does that to me.
>>35652208
well it's a group of friends
nofap and noporn
having sex is allowed
everyone else gave up within a day except for me and one more
Are most males of today really addicted to porn and jacking off. I realised I was so did something about it. So much more energy now it's great
what is the correlation between beard/body hair and test?
great beard high test?
>>35652271
No it's mostly genes.
>>35652302
how to know if you have low test without doing bloodworks?
>>35651877
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2013/01/18/how-to-increase-testosterone-naturally/
>>35652302
Wouldn't seem like you have a source for that. Genes would potentially only be activated if within potential sustain, a la fitness.
>>35653889
In your logic all North people are low test and all Arabs are high test
>>35653913
What makes that seem so?
>>35651877
OP, just keep lifting and eating, you'll do fine. Almost nobody needs to worry so much about their T levels, unless you never went through puberty, or you're a 70 year old man.
>>35653963
Because North people have low facial / body hair and Arabs grow hair in their face and on their back like animals
>>35654017
Where did I say that testosterone is the only gene activator?
>>35652017
doesn't help in a significant way, is not like if you squat and deadlift everyday you'll have more test
>>35652002
>>35654111
WTF makes you imply weightlifting has no effect with testosterone? Do you get how hormones function?
>>35652002
Keep your bodyfat low, but not too low.
HIIT two times a week.
Cholestorol. Bacon & Eggs!
Omega-3 Fish Oil.
Lifting heavy!
Keep stress low, meditate if you like.
Cold showers are disputable but since I've read about Wim Hof a few months back and started taking cold showers I feel great.
>>35651877
just mimick a prehistoric mans lifestyle without the negatives.
be outside, move, manage obstacles, then relax, be social, dont stress out too much.
>>35654017
>>35654055
> gene activator
Are you guys the product of the notorious American public school system?
Hair grows out of follicles, the hair root being located subcutaneously. Whether hair grows out of the follicle (and how much, how long and how coarse) is determined largely by hormones and the sensitivity of follicles to hormones.
This of course means that a man can have monstrous levels of test but little body hair simply because he may suffer from androgen insensitivity. Arabs and Mediterraneans don't have more testosterone, their follicles are simply more sensitive to androgens. Ever wonder why Italians and Middle Eastern dudes are 80% bald? Same reason. It's not a matter of "activating genes". It's about the interacton between hormones and follicles.
>>35654959
>Hair grows out of follicles, the hair root being located subcutaneously. Whether hair grows out of the follicle (and how much, how long and how coarse) is determined largely by hormones and the sensitivity of follicles to hormones.
Hair openings are potentially shrunk by DHT, which is plausibly reversible.
Here's more:
https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/1ysqad/why_people_lose_hair_but_not_beard/
The point is that DHT conversion is relevant to "gene activation" as well. It's all a harmony.
>>35651877
>what about supplements?
injectable test is common and cheap
if they really are low you can get trt from a doctor. Any amount of test you can boost naturally will not even be noticeable
>>35655377
>Any amount of test you can boost naturally will not even be noticeable
> >>35654124
> >>35653870
>>35655518
after the weight loss and or newbie gains I should have said. I still stand by it. No diet, supplement or rest based test boosts were remotely noticeable. This is from a former 320lb fat to 170lbs intermediate lifter
>>35652208
>I don't jerk off because I want the benefits associated with it, I don't jerk off because I can have sex whenever I want.
Complete and utter bullshit.
I masturbate because i like it. It doesn't matter if i can have sex or not. Even when i had a gf, sometimes i used to masturbate after sex.
>Rather than just cutting out porn and jerking off you should realize that there's hardly anything more pathetic than watching another man have sex with a woman you can't be with.
Again, bullshit. You seem to forget that, ultimately, sexual stimulation is a mental thing. If i'm watching porn, it doesn't matter if i can be with the girl, there are all kinds of porn, because people like different stuff. Some people are turned on more about the situation that the girls/guys involved.
What you are saying is like:
"Why to read X book when you can go outside and live your own story"
It's not about that.
No Fap is bullshit. If you like to fap, do it. If it affects you in some way, stop doing it. As simple as that.
start smoking
>>35654959
>Hair grows out of follicles, the hair root being located subcutaneously. Whether hair grows out of the follicle (and how much, how long and how coarse) is determined largely by hormones and the sensitivity of follicles to hormones.
>2016
> Not understanding that steroids use cellular pathways that activate gene expression.
it has been proven that drinking your own semen increases test lvls by 9000
Why does so much self-help focus around limiting yourself?
> "clean food"
> "junk food"
> "no fap"
> "no porn"
Why do humans tend so love limiting themselves so much? is it christian culture that likes to suffer?
>>35655888
yes it's christian. wouldn't find any buddhists or south american pagans enforcing suffering on themselves. not like african tribes stretch the shit out of their necks, lips, wear sleeves of bullet ants or anything like that. not like muslims are carving up their daughters' vaginas and sewing them shut
>>35655918
>african tribes stretch the shit out of their necks, lips, wear sleeves of bullet ants
>african
Three continents to choose from, two being right, and you still fucked up. Wew lad.
Guys a doctor gave me a blood test to check for low testosterone (his suggestion)
How can I make sure he gives me test? Should I act dumb so he doesn't think I'm obsessed with'steroids'?
>>35655888
Self-discipline is the most important quality in the world
Can't do shit without it because nothing that's worth accomplishing is easy to accomplish
>>35655605
170lbs. isn't big.
That's also hugely anecdotal -- not even posting what the test results were (no pun intended).
That website is also anecdotal, but he doubled his test.. with it rising more afterward.
>>35655888
Out of doing stuff that's helpful or not doing stuff for the same, there's a 50% chance it's either. Not fapping was technically suggested since antiquity, except then it was "no ejaculation", replacing it with learning to just orgasm.
With the industrial revolution, producing food as cheaply as possible, that production having lots of competition, and it complementing food with whatever sells the most, there was "more" before there was "less". The great part about the "less" is that it's also less expensive -- whole foods, recipes..
>>35655955
Reference results with that of studies. If he says something like "well, where were these published?", kindly tell him to fuck off.. as taking t averages is no scientifically advanced nor placebo-prone production.
>>35655955
You know you can just go buy your own bloodwork & test your own levels for like $30 right?
>>35654017
Lol have you seen Nords?
>>35654959
couldn't sensitivity have something to do with relevant receptor density
and receptor expression be up/downregulated by some g-protein coupled BS
>>35656714
He's already had me do a blood test I'm waiting for the results
I meant how can I make sure he gives me testosterone
>>35658844
Why do you want test from a doctor? You're going to get shafted even if your T is actually low, which it probably isn't.
Plenty of guys make good gains with low Test. Look up Clayton Chapman on youtube- he has around 300ng/dl test and posts on /fit/ sometimes- his physique is incredible despite his illnesses.
Back to getting shafted- if you doctor gives you T, he is going to put you on a low dose that puts you to the middle-top of the normal range. You will be basically set to use the Test for your whole life, and eventually it will sterilize you. He isn't running a Test blast cycle. This is a life sentence.
You would be better off sorting out IF you actually have any hormonal deficiencies, THEN make lifestyle and diet changes necessary to fix any problems that you might have.
If you just want to build muscle, and are heart-bent on using drugs, don't get test from the doctor. Buy a cycle of AAS from a reliable source, complete with clomid, HCG or whatever PCT you choose. If you're going to test, go all out.
Bumping your T from 300ng/dl to 800ng/dl with drugs won't do jack shit compared to putting in work and making changes to your lifestyle and diet, remember that.
>>35656714
You can? Where?
>>35652076
What do cold showers do?
>>35656714
Lmao at anyone dumb enough to fall for this
>>35659496
Nothing. It's a meme
>>35659726
>>35659496
It makes you manly. Inflicting discomfort and pain on yourself is manly and makes your balls bigger. You should in fact, have someone kick your balls every day.Put hair on that chest.
>>35658997
I'm not trying to get roided up I'm trying to not be always tired and get my libido to exist again (and yes I sleep enough eat well exercise etc)
>>35659988
Listen, man.
I recently got a full panel of every hormone level from my doctor.
My levels are all great; every single pituitary and thyroid hormone. Testosterone is at the top of the range for a mid 20s male at 900 ng/dl. Blood lipids are great. SHBG is great. Everything is fine, as far as my endocrinologist can find.
But guess what? I haven't had a spontaneous erection since November. I don't keep erections easily when I masturbate. My sperm volume is only about one milliliter at most, where most men get about 3-5. I can't shoot anymore, it just dribbles out, as if I'm squeezing a tube of toothpaste. And I'm only 21 years old. I don't know what the fuck is going on, but I'll tell you now, just boosting your test by a small amount probably won't solve your problems.
I'm still trying to figure out what I did wrong with my lifestyle and diet over the last year that led to this.
>>35660063
I was a guy who started watching porn at age 12. I jerked off more than daily between age 11.5 and 19. Starting in 10th grade, I would often jerk off 1-2 times in the bathroom at school, then to porn 1-2 more times in the evening. I would spend probably several hours every day with a semi or hard-on, just sitting in class.
And now, between age 19 and 21, I have had a slow decline from a raging libido to nothing. Can't fucking shoot a load any more, it just dribbles a pathetic amount of cum like a sputtering, dying baby saliva.
High testosterone, no libido or sexual function. Sure, I can get hard for sex, at least in December I could, the last time I had sex; but now, I don't feel my dick twitch when I see hot girls online or in person. My waist is dormant.
>>35651877
Bioenergetics, my friend. Get the juices flowing. Release your energy, break from the shackles of priests and politicians
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>>35659962
>cbt twink
thats Sage Northcut pro MMA fighter....
>>35655759
you faggots will argue about anything
>>35660492
umad?
Lol. That wasn't what I meant to name the jpg, I think I saved over another pic I had named 'cbt twink' by accident, but it was funny so I kept it
>>35660063
So you have a non-hormonal issue.
This has nothing to do with me.
Low testosterone has been shown to cause low libido and fatigue it doesn't matter what some random on 4chan says
