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Is it worth getting? Any one else have it?
>>35646375
Just ask yourself what benefit you think you'd receive.
>>35646375
Nobody will care who you are until you put on that mask
>>35646385
Well i know that in running it would help but i want to know also if it helps with lifting and stuff
Hey OP. I've actually thought about buying this too but after a little research I've decided not to. Reason being, it's pointless. Less air does not equal less oxygen, you'd be better off actually training in the mountains but that will make your training very sluggish compared to those who train sea level. Live high train low. Don't waste your money on this.
get the fuck out you fucking idiot.
>>35646413
No it fucking doesn't stop saying stupid shit.
Literally it would take you five seconds to google the stupid shit you're saying.
>>35646413
>Well i know that in running it would help
No that is what hes saying what would it help with?
>>35646375
Meta-studies show these increase your breathing strength, which is useless for most purposes, and only marginally increase VO2max (which is what you actually care about) on beginners for some sports (mostly relevant to cycling).
Basically they're only good for Bane cosplays.
>>35646435
Well thats why i made the fucking thread to know more shit about it and to see if anyone had any opinions on it
wearing that thing makes you 100x times more of a faggot than a pajeet curling 10 lb dbs in a squat rack wearing a 10 inch wide lifting belt
it's literally an open invitation for anyone to whip their dick out and slap you with it
If I pull that off will you die?
use a straw, all the mask does is restrict your breathing. Basically its a straw attached to an autism identifier.
>>35646464
Get off fit and get on Pubmed for shit like that
I work in the town that these are made in. I go to the gym with people who work at this company. They don't train with them. What does that tell you?
It's also just a rip off of the military gas masks, which happen to be made in a factory in the same town. The first prototype was literally just a military gas mask with a plastic insert where the filters screw into. If you really want to be a douchebag, get a surplus gasmask at 1/5 the price and just wear that.
>>35646375
Two guys in my uni gym have them
>both dyel one's asain the other is black
>>35646375
>>35646460
>Basically they're only good for Bane cosplay
This. Just breathe in through your nose and out through your mouth like everyone else. Ask yourself: If you put on a fireman's uniform from Party City does it make you a fireman? No. It's just a gimmick. Don't draw negative attention to yourself. Even though you pretty much did by starting this thread.
>>35646435
rude, very rude
When we look at the fitness industry over the last 20 years all of us can share a good laugh about some of the training equipment and philosophies that have sprung up. Some have stayed with us, some have faded into the background, and others have been retired to the Serengeti plains in Africa to be with the other Gazelles. So what makes altitude simulated resistance breathing different than the rest of the herd? All we have to do is look at the nature of exercise, fitness, and sport to find the answer. One would be hard pressed to find any moderately taxing physical activity in which fatigue would not be a limiting factor.
Let’s use a housewife who wants to shed a few extra pounds using interval cardio training as an example. Also let us assume that she can complete 4 intervals totaling 12 minutes at high intensity before she has to terminate the workout due to exhaustion. If she can perform 6 intervals the next workout before she reaches exhaustion, she burns more calories, and in theory, if her diet is in check, will lose more weight as a result. But what is stopping her from completing more work? Strength is typically not the limiting factor in a cardio workout. The limiting factor is almost always stamina and fatigue. The same holds true for an NFL wide receiver to some extent. If his team is running a no huddle offence, and on the 9th consecutive play the receiver is asked to run a 50-yard fade route, fatigue is going to play a significant role in how fast he can execute his route to beat the defender. Both the housewife and professional athlete will be breathing very hard even though their tolerances and work capacities may differ.
The fact of the matter is respiratory training is an under emphasized area of fitness, yet it’s one of the crucial and most limiting factors to performance.
Unfortunately, before the Training Mask became more ‘popular’, those in the weekend warrior category of fitness, as well as athletes, had a very limited supply of solutions available to address this issue (if they saw it as an issue at all). The Training Mask is one of the very few training aides available that can directly improve fatigue tolerance. This is what gives the Training Mask staying power versus other ‘fads’. An athlete can wear the mask while running on a treadmill, doing a cross training workout, or while performing core stabilization routines. Using the mask does not require the user to change their routine to some exotic new program. All it requires is that the user wear it during some of their workouts to improve an area of their fitness they would otherwise be ill equipped to emphasize. Fads typically create some ‘new’ way of training, that’s where the Training Mask is different. The Training Mask can evolve with the user as exercise philosophies shift, always there to help them improve fatigue tolerance so that they can fight through workouts more effectively.
There has been some confusion among the brain trust in the fitness community as to how the Training Mask improves performance. It performs this function in a few key ways. Oxygen restriction, Improving Carbon Dioxide Tolerance, and directly strengthening the breathing musculature.
1. Oxygen Restriction
Using the Training Mask decreases the oxygen available to the body by limiting the volume of air that comes into the re-breather during ventilation. It is in this regard that it simulates attitude training at sea level. The operative word here is ‘simulates’ not duplicates. Giving the user an option to simulate a training stimulus they would otherwise have to trek up a mountain to gain has distinct benefits. Is oxygen restriction using a re-breather different than breathing thinner air with reduced oxygen per unit of volume at altitude, yes. Can it still give us a similar training benefit, yes. The body cannot tell the difference between lower oxygen content via restriction in a re-breather, or thinner air at altitude. Restricting oxygen causes the body to make adaptations to adjust to the stimulus, especially if it is induced under load on a repeated basis. Elevation training creates the benefits of increased serum oxygen transport to respond to the reduced oxygen state experienced during workouts. Oxygen is the lifeblood to short burst (2-4 minute) and prolonged work capacity (8 minutes and up). Oxygen directly buffers lactic acid to allow us to work at higher intensities in addition to the role it plays in creating energy. When your legs are on fire during a long set of box jumps, it’s the availability of oxygen to the muscle that can ease the discomfort so you can work out at that intensity longer.
How Does the Training Mask Improve Performance?
2. Carbon Dioxide Tolerance
In addition to the oxygen restriction effect the Training Mask creates while training, it also exposes the user to increased carbon dioxide content during each breathing cycle. This occurs because the air that is exhaled into the mask cannot fully exit the re-breather before the next breath. Carbon dioxide tolerance is an important regulator to fatigue threshold. When the respiratory center in the brain detects elevated Co2 in the blood, it sends alarm signals to the breathing musculature to work harder. In addition to that function, the respiratory center also creates that awful sensation which makes us want to stop working. Training in this state can have significant training benefits by allowing our bodies to endure elevated Co2 concentrations. Co2 tolerance is one component of the ‘wall’ (the others being lactic acid and hydrogen ion accumulation) that prevents us from continuing to work. The Training Mask gives the user a means of over-inducing Co2 elevated physiological conditions beyond what an athlete would normally experience through breathing without the mask.
How Does the Training Mask Improve Performance?
3. Inspiratory Muscle Conditioning
Bad breathing habits are very hard to undo, especially while training. Practicing diaphragmatic breathing in static positions may strengthen the diaphragm, and re-train us to breathe properly while relaxed, but this rarely carries over into training as high stress levels can make us fall back into bad habits. Why is diaphragmatic involvement important during breathing? Because it is the ‘prime mover’ in our breathing musculature. There are other muscles involved in inspiration such as the intercostals and accessory muscles, but these muscles also share in core stabilization functions which make them prone to fatigue due to their multi-purpose role. The peripheral air resistance generated by the flux valves of the mask directly stresses the breathing musculature. This added load resets the motor program of the breathing muscles to favor a diaphragm driven contraction sequence instead of an accessory muscle dependent sequence. If we were to observe most people while they are breathing heavily, we would see upper chest expansion coupled with rapid breaths. This leads to decreased lung inflation and oxygen uptake, which ultimately decreases the individual’s capacity to reduce oxygen debt during exertion. Ideally we would like to see breaths originate in the abdomen during labored breathing, this would indicate that the individual is using their diaphragm more rigorously. Lastly, the mask increases the duration of inspiration during each breathing cycle. This allows the lungs more time to expand, as well as putting the diaphragm under load through its full muscular excursion. Repeated training with the mask during high intensity functional activities will give us the functional carryover from diaphragmatic training we would otherwise be unable to replicate by simply doing diaphragmatic breaths in resting positions.
Training with the mask is a much more functional way of strengthening the inspiratory musculature which will directly improve performance.
The Take Home…
We can see that the Training Mask is a comprehensive approach to improving respiratory endurance. Although it simulates altitude training through oxygen restriction, it also adds other elements such as improving Co2 tolerance, and respiratory muscle conditioning as well. Merging oxygen restriction (altitude training) with the other training benefits the mask provides the user, makes it stand alone as one of the best respiratory training implements on the market today. As long as people see fatigue as a challenge to their workouts, the Training Mask will have a place in everyone’s fitness routine both now, and in years to come.
>>35646375
No, it's not.
>asphyxiating yourself on purpose
Marshawn Lynch - Seattle Seahawks - using the Training Mask
>>35647728
..,because he was paid to for the cameras
>>35647737
Nope not one dime!
>>35646375
Skip to 4:20 (of course)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrhc5-Fxo0g
Pittsburgh Steelers
>>35646375
http://youtu.be/Gl92Q5HL2Nk
Dr. Artour Rakhimov is a health practitioner and the author of books on yoga, cystic fibrosis, cancer, breathing techniques, and many other topics. He teaches and promotes methods and lifestyle changes that increase brain and body oxygenation: how to unblock a nose, fall asleep fast, stop coughing, relieve constipation, get rid of cramps, and deal with chronic diseases that are based on low body O2 content.
I've seen some very big guys wearing these, idk if they're right for you though.
http://youtu.be/Z1prM0vEFqE
World renowned fitness and life coach talks about Training Mask, the use of Training Mask and the fuctionality.
>>35647872
>created crossfit bullshit
>"when I can expose in any function, any functional movement, to that specific weakness, within a functional movement, make what they're good at even better"
altitude masks are bullshit, because once you take off the mask, you are no longer restricting oxygen and simulating a high elevation. So you would have to wear it 24/7.
>>35646375
you'll become a pretty big guy
>>35647949
bruh did you even watch the vid bruh?
Fukkin man talks about how he fuckin revived up fucking hard when he wore the mask during recovery bruh. It's not 25/7 bruh, just use it for your series and your recovery bruh. That's how to max out your mask use bruh.
>>35647674
But if I take it off, will you die?
>>35647996
1/10 I considered writing a reply for a split second
>>35647949
Your an idiot with an opinion... Do everyone a favor and never vote
You think bait is your ally?
You merely adopted the bait.
I was born in it, molded by it.
I didn't even see the meme until I was already a man and by that time it was fuckin gay.
>>35648024
It would be extremely painful
>>35648079
You're a big guy.
>>35648052
[you're]
Lebrun James Using the Training Mask
>>35648125
For you.
>>35647949
There is no simulation. You breath the same volume of air as you normally do in high altitude, eventually leading to adaptations of increasing oxygenation of the blood through larger lungs, more efficient o2 transport across the alveoli, and increased red blood cell count.
Oi, fanboy, fuck off and stop spouting their broscience. There is no physiological adaptations made to wearing a fucking oxygen restricting mask during exercise.
>>35647616
Notice how they admit the fundamental difference between the mask and altitude training, and then MAKE NO EFFORT TO EXPLAIN WHY it's similar, apart from throwing science-y sounding words around. The body CAN tell the difference between oxygen restriction and a reduced volume of oxygen in breathing air. For one, YOU ARE'T STRUGGLING TO BREATH IN. THERE IS NO OBSTRUCTION OF YOUR AIRWAY AT ALTITUDE.
Your body adapts to bringing in MORE air to counter the lower amount of o2. That little spiel they write down about being similar to altitude training is a farce. You might get a stronger diaphragm wearing one of these fake gizmos, but then again, you could just practice swimming every now and then, or work on HIIT.
'CO2 tolerance' is literally the only advantage the mask could bring, and it's a shit one, at that. CO2 chemoreceptors in your brain regulate the feeling of needing to breathe deeper or shallower. Fucking around with them is only useful in free diving, when you have to fucking hold your breath and avoid the involuntary 'breathing in' reflex you get when CO2 levels reach a threshold.
IT FUCKING DOESN'T INFLUENCE YOUR TRAINING. IT'S LITERALLY A USELESS THING TO TRAIN IN THE GYM.
Inspiratory muscle conditioning?
Just do anaerobic training, same result, Aerobic respiration can't keep up, you start using anaerobic respiration, only you aren't fucking gassed out quicker, and burn less energy and get less of a result out of the training.
MASKS ARE A SHAM.
>>35647034
it would be extremely painful
I would get one OP.
mainly so I could walk around my home gym and quote dark knight rises while working out and feeling bad ass. Which is what this fitness fad is banking on.
Tl;dr waste of money bro
>>35646375
Why and for what do you need a mask?
>>35647771
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrhc5-Fxo0g
>>35648152
And pls don't quote that fucking quack. The cunt would literally sell his own mothers pussy as a miracle cure if the supplement industry/mask company wanted him to write a paper on it.
>>35648173
Kek
I'm just imaging OPs dad asking this when he tells him he's leaving the house in that shit.
Don’t be afraid of that man wearing the mask on the treadmill next to you. Even though he looks like a cross between a burglar and Hannibal Lecter, he probably means you no harm. He’s wearing what’s known as an “altitude mask,” and despite your concerns, he’s wearing it for a far less frightening purpose: To perform better in some physical endeavor. Even if it’s just to crush his one mile time every week in the gym.
Meet the “Elevation Training Mask”
The mask your neighbor adorns is a relatively newer product designed to mimic the effects of altitude while at sea level. It works by restricting airflow to its user, which is said (per the manufacturer) to strengthen respiratory muscles, and create hypoxemia (reduced blood oxygen levels), with the ultimate goal of enhanced performance.1
Competitive athletes have long sought after altitude exposure to gain an edge on their competition, and for good reason.2 Ascending to a higher elevation creates hypoxemia, which causes the body to produce more erythropoietin (EPO), and ultimately boosts work capacity through increased production of red blood cells.3 The mask does come with several valve caps that can be interchanged to adjust the altitude level, with options starting at 3,000 ft. and topping off at 18,000 ft.1
Hypoxemia from a Training Mask
Despite limited research on the Training Mask, a study published last year suggests that it indeed performs as advertised, which is to say it simulates altitude for its user.4 Study methods involved five young, healthy males performing 20 minutes of treadmill exercise at 60% VO2max, wearing the Training Mask at three different elevation settings: 3,000 ft., 9,000 ft., and 15,000 ft. Investigators reported significant reductions in blood oxygen saturation (SpO2) in subjects exercising at the two higher elevations, clearly demonstrating a hypoxic response. Interestingly, no significant differences were found in hypoxemia between 9,000 ft. and 15,000 ft.
>>35648129
He could have been trying that on for a minute and took it off immediate after the pic was taken.
Even so, who cares. Lebrun is Lebrun. Didn't need that shit before. Doesn't need it now.
>>35647949
>So you would have to wear it 24/7
>>35648249
My fucking sidesssss
Well I'll be damned.
It even comes in Bane print.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/44178686?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227031805263&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=t&wl3=72041235489&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=127814396889&veh=sem
What may be a more significant finding of their study is the mechanism by which the mask was creating hypoxemia, which researchers said resulted from rebreathing expired CO2 trapped in the users’ masks. They also remarked that hypoxemia created by restricted airflow is a novel, and seemingly effective way to mimic altitude without ever traveling to higher elevation.
>>35647616
gas exchange happens in in the lungs due to the pressure difference between CO2/O2 "forcing" an exchange at the capillaries.
restricting O2 and increasing CO2 does not change the partial pressure of the gases within the immediate area.
>>35648315
O2 / Co2 satiation levels not pressure / partial pressure
So, basically this thread is just a big shill?
>>35646375
Yes it works great. I use it for about half of my 8 hour bicep workout.
>>35648355
For youuuu
>>35648361
I would never buy this shit.
Even if it did make me feel like Bane.
>>35648337
I see what youre trying to say but at that point its "chicken or the egg" and not discussing the effects of the mask.
>>35648403
Prolly because your a broke fat ass keyboard warrior in your moms basement
>>35648419
Kek
>trying to justify the $80 worthless purchase you just made
>>35646464
It doesn' work
>>35646398
What if you bring friends?
