3 Reasons why you don't look any better after a year lifting:
>You didn't do, or do enough chin-ups.
>You cheat chin-up ROM and don't lockout your arms
>You didn't weight your chin-ups
>>35638403
my elbow is kill can't do chin-ups
>>35638425
Rip gains
The only reason you don't look better after a year
>you didn't diet properly
Unfortunately it's true, always been a pull-ups guys, started doing chin-ups lately, never coming back
>>35638454
just do both k?
>>35638445
Nah. Diet means nothing.
The only effect of diet is gaining get, which makes you look worse, but that's reversible.
Diet is unimportant.
>tfw can only do 2 proper chinups
>instead do 7 cheating ones because i figure in still working my back so it doesnt really matter....?
>>35638454
Do both, chin ups don't activate lats m8
>>35638467
More muscle fibre recruitment the more the muscle grows.
>>35638468
Bad troll
>>35638403
No, there's one reason and one reason only why nobody here 'looks better after a year of lifting': THEY DON'T ACTUALLY GO TO THE GYM, they just talk shit on /fit/.
"Not gonna make it" starter kit
>benching instead of weighted dips
>machines instead of weighted pull-ups
>squatz instead of sprinting every other day
>whey instead of 5 chicken breasts/day
>>35638468
Don't ever again give fitness advice.
>>35638467
Literally do like 10-15 sets of 1 chinup, with 20-30 second rest until you can't complete 1 rep with proper form. Next Session you can do 2 reps for as many sets as you can, then do a few more at 1 rep. Once you can do 4-5 reps for a few sets in a row you'll up the rest a bit and just do 3-5 sets. LIterally fastest way from 2 pullups-5 pullups in a row is by doing single pullups with low rest.
>>35638484
post your body
>>35638467
>2 chinups
Jesus, are you a woman or something? How does one only do 2 chinups? I could do 8 in school when I was at my DYELest
>>35638484
>bait
>>35638494
He's prolly 25-30% bodyfat. At that point it becomes much harder to do pullups.
>>35638494
How do the fucking skeletons never understand fat guys?
Same strength, just lifting 100lbs more. Of course they can't do as many.
>>35638516
Its not a fucking excuse unless you're morbidly obese in which case what the fuck are you doing on this board. My dad can pump decent set on pull-ups and he's 55 and has big beer belly
>>35638403
if you dont look better, you arent eating enough
cant make gains as a skeleton
>>35638464
gr8 b8 :')
>>35638577
Show me some proof that diet is important in building strength / muscle mass.
You don't need large amounts of protein, more than average, but not over 200grams like dyel retards on /fit/ eat.
Calories are important, a surplus is beneficial, but that isn't nutrition which I assume is what you're talking about.
pull ups are great but will only give you lats
>>35638641
What is a kinetic chain
>>35638403
Why do chin-ups, aren't pullups much better for all purposes?
>>35638648
>same muscles used
>easier to over load
>thus more weight used
>thus more volume
>thus more hypertrophy
Muscle contraction percentage differs, sure, but you won't pull-up as much as you chin-up, thus chin-ups allows for volume.
Range of motion also comes into play, chin-how have a greater range of motion which may allow for more muscle fibre recruitment perhaps?
I'm not too sure on that last claim.
>>35638610
If you truly aren't baiting, if you aren't tracking your macros while following a strict training regimen then you're wasting your time. You need to make sure you are eating enough protein and at a caloric surplus. Not "eating healthy"
>>35638667
re-read what I wrote
>>35638677
You contradicted yourself.
>Diet means nothing
>A caloric surplus is beneficial
>You need more protein than average
You tried m8
>>35638728
I was referring to micro nutrients. Poor wording on my behalf, but I explained that in the second post,
Worst thread ever.
>>35638666
If you can chinup more than you can pullup you are doing it wrong. Most people can do more chinups because they are bicep dominant curlbros who don't know how to engage and control contractions of specific muscle groups.
>>35638539
How many weighted chin ups can you do with 100lbs?
>>35638484
Dyel?
What is the actual difference between a pull up and a chin up? It's just that one is "overhand" and one is "underhand", right?
What is it when you use the bars that stick straight out, as if you were grabbing another dude's dick?
>didn't lift for 1.5 years due to insanely fucked up schedule that left me 6 hours to sleep every day
>occasionally did pull-ups while passing a jungle gym at my block
>could do 5-6 proper wide-grip pull-ups
>lifted for two months now
>progressing well on rows, pulldowns and t-bar rows and generally all lifts
>finally figured out that I can do pull-ups on the smith machine (no pull-up bar in the gym, srs)
>thought I'd probably manage 10 now
>barely did 5
why?>?????????
>>35640560
feels more like a chin-up to me. pull-ups don't engage bicep much, chins engage engage bicep a lot like curls and double handjob-ups feel like they engage biceps the way hammer curls do. they even feel easier than chins
>>35640817
So basically I should just do all three erryday?
>>35638539
no one gives a shit about your dad
>>35638464
post body pic
We'll see how important diet is ;^)
>you put collars on the bar
>you waited 1-2 minutes between your sets
>you fell for the 1g protein/lb of bodyweight meme
>haven't lifted for a few weeks now
>feeling like a DYEL normie
>decide to see how many pullups I can still do
>mfw I can still bust out 23
Weighted pullups are life
>>35638484
Gymnastics over weights for upper body. You'll sacrifice quick muscle gains for athleticism. Sprinting can't replace squats. The ROM trained when sprinting is essentially a 1/8th squat. Squats and sprints are GOAT together.
>>35638484
>weighted dips
If you did machines for a full year you'd end up looking better.
>>35641573
>machines
>>35638667
I just eat whatever. I mean I try and eat as much as possible and focus on meat, potatoes, brown rice and vegetables, and I make shakes with whole milk and whey, fruits and oats. I don't count calories or any of that faggotry.
