Hey /fit/ lets get real for a minute. What kinda drugs are gonna fuck with my gains. I've been fucking with opiates on and off for 3 years now, I've kept the self discipline to not get carried away and get hooked but also to put training first, is railing a couple of oxy every now and then gonna fuck up my gains or what? Also generally what substances should i stop fucking with if i wanna continue on the path to success?
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bro just do it on off days or whatever i always smoke a bowl when I get back from the gym. feels good. I doubt they affect muscle growth that much.
You're Fucking stupid
Losers do drugs
Stop doing drugs
And your mental gains, which are more important, will come with the physical gains.
>>35633134
>stop doing things i dont like
>>35633123
Yeah man thats exactly what i do, just keep it irregular and never let it fuck with my training.
>>35633134
The best way to make those brain gains is flex the muscle of self restraint by occasionally fucking with highly addictive substances and not letting yourself get hooked. Fucking no brain gains for you faggot.
>>35633144
he isn't wrong tho.
Don't listen to >>35633134 , retards have very strong opinions on things they don't understand
On the other hand, this is a fitness board, not a drug board, so except for /fraud/, nobody is really an expert at mixing drugs and lifting. You're a heavy user, you know better than most what you can accomplish. Can you lift, or can't you? The two are pretty exclusive to each other.
>is railing an oxy going to fuck up my gains
Why the fuck would it? Aside from, you know, making you not lift as hard because you're fucking nodding or something. Lift in the gym, eat right, and sleep right and you will get gains. There's nothing magical in opiates that will make your gains fall through a fucking hole in your pocket.
Fuck this was a troll thread 8/10 for making me respond
Literally destroying your gray matter
>>35633170
former drug addict here, can confirm
stop doing drugs op, clean living is best living
put it this way... you gotta ask yourself this, would you rather feel good almost all the time or feel great for a few hours then shitty for even longer?
opioid abuse causes lower testosterone
went clean for a while, it's good but not necessary and if you want to fuck around ONCE IN A WHILE you can. i generally only fuck with opiates 2x a month, smoke weed 4x a month, and drink 5-6 times a month. no effect on gains, just don't be a fucking addict
Stop doing opiates if you are serious about gains.
Together with booze opies are the biggest gainsgoblins there are
-totally crashes your testosterone and raises estrogen. this happens fast
-decreases protein synthesis
-decreases apetite to the point of eating like an anorexic
-fucks with your bowels
Take this from a former junkie, stop doing that shit now
>>35633209
>drug addict
>>35633213
>abuse
what is responsible drug use??
>>35633259
>what is responsible drug use??
what do you call an idiot who used opioids?
>>35633259
no clue, the studies ive read use the word abuse and i cant remember how they defined that
>>35633301
Hey ive been using opioids for years and have no trouble stopping and leaving them alone.
>>35633176
Opiates can lower test. Any type of depressant lowers test, this is why bodybuilders don't drink often if ever.
>>35633315
famous last words of any junkie
what about the pooping though?
>>35633134
usually you are right, but some of the most awesome people ever did a lot of drugs
>>35633367
Nah man I dont get addicted, its impossible for me
>>35633374
Yeah man it plugs you up so you have more time to absorb the good stuff from your shit.
>>35633403
Arnie smokes it up
>>35633315
wrong, the answer is an oxymoron
get it?
responsible drug use is an oxymoron and so is a stupid person who uses oxy
>>35633403
>do drugs so some fuckwit on 4chan will think you're awesome
well i'm sold
>>35633311
>>35633301
I've been doing all kinds of drugs (benzoids, opioids, MDMA, LSD, cannabis, research chemicals of all kinds including synthetic cannabinoids etc. etc.) for years recreationally 1-5 times a month and I'm a perfectly healthy male with no other addictions other than a slight one for tobacco (5 to 20 cigs a week).
Just cause at school you got told that all drugs are bad and that alcohol and tobacco aren't equally horrible doesn't mean it's true. Also all junkies who want to stop their drug use but can't are just weak willed.
Honestly getting addicted to a drug is hard, you have to be a retard and keep doing the same thing continuously multiple times within a short time frame and who the fuck even has the money for such a thing. Just keep the usage in check at least to the point that your tolerance won't go up and you'll have no problems.
>>35633558
>5-20 cigs a week
>perfectly healthy male
You are only lying to yourself anon. Your lungs are not healthy.
>>35633558
HAES
>>35633558
Yeah man i totally agree, youve gotta be desperate to get addicted. I have a policy of never using my recreational drugs for any emotional problems, just for fun
>>35633334
I would have thought it's because steroids are hard on the liver and alcohol is hard on the liver, put the two together and you're gonna have a bad time. Also alcohol doesn't fit their macros and they'll lose gains unless they train badly on a hangover
>>35633558
>I'm a polysubstance drug addict who thinks I'm better than others who are addicts
>I'm healthy and I smoke cigarettes
Nothing's wrong with doing drugs kid, but you're deluding yourself.
