I'm convinced dairy (specifically milk) is what gave me my gyno when I was a teen. Before I started drinking a lot of milk I was naturally lean, and never had a problem with body fat. I listened to the internet and started drinking a shit load of milk everyday to gain weight along with lifting weights. The result? Bitch tits and love handles I still have to this day although far less worse than what it was. I'm 24 now had the gyno removed last year. After reading so much info about milk I can't believe how ignorant i was. I was always defending milk because I thought it was healthy. Turns out it pretty much turns you into a women. When you combine that with all of the other estrogens we are dlfaced with everyday through plastics our clothes and even our water, developing boys can't afford to plague our bodies with anymore estrogen. You can sit here and say it was my caloric intake, but my caloric intake doesn't give you gyno unless you become obese. So I'm trying to cut out all dairy but it's a real bitch. I've replaced milk with almond milk, but what can I replace greek yogurt with?
Tldr milk turns you into a women hormonaly
>>35557674
sauce?
>>35557674
Don't they make almond yogurt now too? Your store might not have it though
i'm sure it was milk and not you becoming a fatass
>op drinks more milk and takes in more calories than he used to
>he gets fat
>therefore, milk gives you tits
Not it was you being a fatty. The estrogen effect is pretty much negligible.
>>35557727
>>35557758
So i was fat at 511 190 pounds? I was fat lifting weights working out every week?
>>35557674
I drink milk since i was a baby and I don't have any gyno brah
>>35557782
Yes
>>35557782
you had love handles
you were fat
>>35557797
No I wasn't
>>35557674
Eat a lot of sauerkraut, fresh cabbage, broccoli and cauliflower, oranges. These are all anti-estrogenic foods and cut back slightly on dairy if you actually need to.
I think you're just fat. If you're above 15% body fat, you need to fuck off with your gyno shit. Some people JUST GET gyno during puberty- it's genetic more than anything.
>>35557782
yes
>>35557818
t. pic related
>>35557818
see
>>35557811
You're a fucking moron who listens to too many /fit/ conspiracy theories. Let me guess, you jack off to fat women to "keep your test up" you idiots?
>>35557782
>What is body composition
You're really stupid.
>>35557782
I'm 5'11 190 lbs
I get teased by my family for being fat. Currently cutting and cardio 5 times a week.
Of course it depends on your body fat% but I wouldn't rule out actually being slightly chubby.
>>35557830
>>35557842
>>35557832
>>35557811
>>35557797
Im such a fatass
>>35557879
Are you so retarded you can't grasp the concept of a really fat man and a really muscular man weighing the same amount?
I wouldn't worry about hormones in your milk I would worry about you being a gibbering retard.
>>35557879
You're gay and you don't have fucking gyno
Get the fuck off this board
Go to your doctor and he'll tell you you're a jackass for thinking your estrogen is high from eating dairy, and he'll give you a hormone panel if you beg him, and the results will show that your estrogen and all your other hormones are normal.
Except the one that makes you suck dick.
>>35557889
Lol at how angry you are, the pic is me and my waist has never been more than 36 it's like 32 in that pic. Milk is not healthy, deal with it.
I've been drinking milk and fruit yogurts almost every day since I was 8. How come I'm a burly hairy man and not a cute anime girl?
>>35557946
If you could read I said I had it and had gotten it removed you blow hard. And yes I did get a hormone panel done and had very high prolactin levels, from the fucking milk
>>35557956
Post a pic
>>35557954
36 is fat as fuck
are you high?
>>35557973
Prolactin levels aren't raised by milk. I had high prolactin levels myself for about 2 months from taking Extenze, pygeum, saw palmetto and a Walmart brand prostate supplement in an attempt to create male enhancement.
I got a full hormone panel of all my levels and even had a brain MRI to find the source of the prolactin elevation, if there were a tumor. There wasn't a tumor.
Going off the supplements caused my prolactin to return to the normal range.
Diary in all likelihood has nothing to do with your problem- in fact, it might be genetics after all. You might even have a pituitary tumor. But it's not dairy.
>>35558015
pic related
>>35558013
Lol at a 36 inch waist being fat as fuck, derp>>35558015
Already got scanned and no tumor.
Anyways this thread got derailed, so please post more dairy alternatives with good protein sources please. Thanks
>>35557674
I drank 95% milk when I was growing up, so no, milk doesn't give you gyno.
arnold drank whole milk. stop being a faggot.
>>35558077
It raises your estrogen levels.
>>35558093
>what worked for one person will work for another
spotted the redditor
>>35558188
Thank you Mr. 4chan Scientist.
>>35558188
But anon such a small amount of estrogen would never impact you in a meaningful way. Besides, if estrogen was really affecting your fat distribution then it wouldn't give you love handles.
/fit/ doesn't know nothin' about trap diets.
Milk turned me into a man. It's full of testosterone. It cured my gyno & made my dick grow.
DRINK MILK!
>>35558015
Did your baby Dick grow?
>>35558057
You are fucking autistic, mentally ill bastard.
i drink skim milk everyday and i wanna lose my moo handles so i guess i gotta kick it now. don't wanna end up like OP.
God damn I just want to bury my face in her pussy then move my tongue to her ass and give it the ol' natty lickaroo
>>35558293
no, it shrunk. Test makes your dick smaller
fuck off op. I drank and still drank a shitton of milk. I love it. I do not have bitch tits but a rock hard, firm chest. Don't blame your shit genetics on one of nature's best beverages.
>>35557674
This is new material for /fat hate/ threads
you're being delusional
you made yourself have gyno
you fatfuck
>>35557832
fatass
>>35557674
basically starve the gyro out of yourself. i've never seen a auschwitz prisoner with gono F_A_M
>>35557674
I drank at least 2L milk on the daily from around 12 to 29. No bitch tits.
>>35558219
You can google it and find numerous articles on it. Cow milk comes primarily from pregnant cows pumped full of antibiotics. It's literally nothing but blood and mucus and hormones. Everybodies talking shit but haven't seen anybody post a pic in this thread except me.
/dealwithit
>>35558493
Post a pic
>>35558493
Post a pic
>>35558549
If your estrogen levels are in the normal range for a male and you aren't experiencing any symptoms of hormonal imbalance, your estrogen is not elevated. period. Stop worrying about menial shit.
The water you drink is packed with contraceptive piss that teenage bitches on tax funded, government administered birth control excrete. Water treatment systems can't filter out these female sex steroids from our water.
Farm animals piss out their hormones into the water supply as well. It's not just human women.
>>35558592
Exactly my point, why add more estrogen to your diet? Also reverse osmosis can filter out the hormones
>>35558592
so you're saying OP is drinking highschool cheerleader pussy juice?
WHERE THE FUCK DAT FOUNTAIN AT
>>35558623
If you eat pussy and the girl is on contraceptives, you'll lose all your gains. You probably shouldn't even touch her at all or come into contact with her fluids
but with men, men don't have these problems
#nohomo
>>35558667
fuck
>you will never drink Scooby's condensed semen after he's been nofap for 10 weeks for maximum gains
no homo tho
Dairy cows naturally produce estrogens that are transferred to their milk. According to Ganmaa Davaasambuu, a physician and scientist at the Harvard School of Public Health, dairy products account for 60 to 80 percent of the estrogen consumed in the typical American diet. Drinking large quantities of cow's milk may significantly increase your estrogen levels. These hormones in milk have the potential to increase your risk of prostate cancer and reduce fertility, according to Davaasambuu.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/554285-does-milk-raise-estrogen-in-men/
Sources for studies in article
>>35558908
Increased estrogen can lead to increased testosterone, IE gains
Hormones work in tandem
>semi srs ^
Even if dairy can and does raise estrogen in men, as long as you aren't having disagreeable sides and your estrogen levels are normal, I wouldn't cut dairy out of your diet for that reason alone
>>35558947
Motherfucker is growing tits enough to cut it out?
>>35558519
Me>you
>>35558964
Yeah, go a fucking head and cut out dairy. Just because your genetic makeup will elicit a certain physiological reaction in you in response to a certain chemical doesn't mean that it happens to all of us. I certainly don't attribute my own gyno - wait- {404 error- no gyno} to dairy.
>>35557674
You got fat. Stop blaming milk on your excessive consumption.
>>35559040
>>35559052
I am cutting out dairy you retard derp
Yeah dude I'm so fat
Are you all this retarded? I thought this was a fitness forum?
>>35558057
You bring nothing to the table, as soon as someone shares his real experiences with hormone disruptions you just add "oh I already had that done". How about you prove shit instead.
>>35559092
You fags said I was fat proved you wrong
Wanted studies so I posted them
How much more wrong can you possibly be?
>>35559092
Yes he said his problems were caused by taking supplements, it's apples and oranges. What does that have to do with anything?
Moar ass for anybody who will help me by posting good alternatives you eat
Lol @ this thread.
OP is a retarded faggot.
>>35559504
>>35557674
did somebody say milk
Oats have more carbs, but they still good source of protein and are calorie dense. Too much dairy gives me acne so I rely on tuna/eggs/chicken breast for cutting protein, and oats for healthy calorie density on bulk.
>>35559512
source/name
>>35557674
Is that the girl in Sia music video?
Woah how time has passed.
I've drank milk ever since I was a little kid, everyone does around here. It's the go-to drink with meals, I consume around a literal every day, have for like 20 years. Learning that americans don't drink milk was a pretty big surprise, I remember. Gyno levels are still normal among people
>>35558514
yuck
>>35560190
Perhaps the dairy industry is better where you're from. It's awful here in the states
>>35557680
This.
>>35557782
>love handles and gyno
>WOW YOU SAY I WAS FAT?
moron
I had lots of milk while growing up, every day for cereal plus almost every other meal. I was a skinny fuck until I started forcing myself to eat more.
Never had gyno. I think it's just genetics breh
Most likely a result of too many PUFAS
do you like mayonnaise?
That girl would be perfect if it wasnt for her eyes.
any height gains tho?
>>35559523
/giff pls go
I drink a litre of milk every day and I have no gyno or hormonal problems. I live in a country with quality dairy though, don't know if quality could be the issue here
