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stale bread : >>35544573

Swimming in your bed edition

Based tren sweats.
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new yr new me guys
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in for broken girls
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>>35551088
what are steroids
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>>35551408
Instant osteoporosis drug with no other effects.
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>>35551408
you tell me :)
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What gauge do you guys draw with? I had 20s but they tear up some of these stoppers. I'll probably pick up some 23g next.
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what happens if i decide to inject 500mg/wk of test permanently?
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>>35551416
don't forget it breaks your dick and makes your balls vanish
i think it also contains the homo too tbqh
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I'am gonna try kamagra(dick pills) soon

any good? for how long does it work?

where is jm, he's expert on dick pills
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>>35551408
See
>>35551416

Yep we're basically handicapping ourselves for funsies.
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I've decided I'm gonna win the powerball

What would your cycle look like if you had $300M sitting around?
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>>35551435
Thats a "high" dose for perma.
Youd probs be fine with reg bloodwork.

Just watch for cholestrol and bp and maybe rbc
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>>35551441
Tadalafil is better IMO. Lasts 24 hours or so while sildenafil only lasts 6 or so. But sildenafil gives better boners.
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>>35551428
I pull with 22g and inject with 23g.

I wouldnt recommend going lower than 22g to pull because, as you pointed out, youll end up taking chunks out of the vial's top. you dont wanna risk injecting a piece of plastic and end up with an abscess..
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>>35551441
That's viagra. 4 hours.

Imo cialis is better. Lasts longer, not as strong (feels more natty, just super strong erection) and less risk of getting a headache on it.
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>>35551457
My coworkers and I pooled together 50 numbers to split 5 ways if we win lol.

1g test c /wk
1g tren a /wk
adrol ed for 3 months
1g deca /wk
1g mast p /wk
250mg tne pwo
try this for 16 weeks

>inb4 heart explodes
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I'm looking into clenbuterol for my cut. Currently 187lbs, 18% bf. Wanting to drop to 13ish for the summer. How reliable is it purchasing it online?
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>>35551465
>>35551484
Holy shit, who wants a hard dick that long?

But if you're done, will it go flat?

Can you go on, after you're done?

pls no bully, i never used it before.
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Feeling great two days into 30-40mg tren ace/day. Down from 75mg and feeling fucked up.

Hopefully I can keep it in long term without sides. With higher nandrolone and moderate test for mass cycles.
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>>35551514
I wouldnt do clen if I were you.
Drop bf lower before using it imo
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>>35551530
Reasoning on that?

I can probably cut the bf pretty fast without it, but not in time for Spring break, which is why I'm looking into clen
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>>35551556
clen isnt as effective as you think it is.

much more usefull for going from lean to really lean than from fat to lean.

imho anyway.
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>>35551514
see >>35551530

Honestly after everything I've heard about Clen, I'll take my chances feeling like death on DNP before I ever touch clen.

speaking of DNP
shit took a turn for the worst yesterday bros

>be me
>day 3 of DNP
>DNP farts/shits have already kicked in
>make it through most of workout fine nbd
>time for some low weight, high volume diddlys
>load up the bar
>proceed with pre-diddly ritual
>squat down and prepare to lift
>bar leaves the floor, while I'm squeezing my legs/glutes for all their worth
>loud, smelly DNP fart escapes ass
>ohshit.jpg
>lowering bar back to the ground when face passes through toxic cloud
>proceed into next rep only for an even louder, smellier fart to escape ass
>people looking now
>guy at squat rack to my left makes a horrified face and walks away
>pass through toxic cloud on the way back down
>mfw

this shit went on for every rep of 4 sets of diddlys bro. Think it's time to change gyms now. That shit was like poison too.
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>>35551577
>tfw was going to order some dnp and then the only online source IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY retires
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>>35551526
No your dick isn't erect for 24hrs, its in your system for 24 hours or so. So you can have marathon sessions
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>>35551526
its just that you have a real easy time to get a boner, not that youre permanently hard for that time
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>>35551638
tfw 2cialis pills in wallet and no slut to smash
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>>35551643
>tfw ~10 grams of cialis and no slut to smash
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How much is Rich Piano's cycle going to cost him?

If that has been posted in another thread, I missed it.
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>>35551629
Become the new source.

>>35551526
Your dick should go back down after you bust. May take a tiny bit longer but nothing serious. Try 25 or 50mg for your first go with sildenafil. 100mg if you really want to fuckin destroy her.

Makes you veiny as hell too.
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>>35551660
maybe we should just smash each other?

you'd have to be bottom and be cool with me calling you analgirl tho*
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>>35551660
Is it legit though? I'm hesitant to order raws for cialis because they seem so hit or miss. I take 50mg daily so it would save me a ton.
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>>35551577

18% is just an estimate. Not really sure, and kinda new to lifting. 145 to 185 in a year.
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>>35551707
>50mg daily
doubt what youre taking is legit m8
but mine for sure is, i cant breathe through my nose if i take more than like 30 mg
>>35551684
>tfw not in africa
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>>35551638
Sounds reasonable, kek.

thanks

>>35551680
I thought it was 100mg indeed. Is that too much?

I will maybe split it in half then.

will try 50mg first then
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>>35551475
If you change needles this won't be an issue unless you are blind and cannot check your filled syringe

>>35551498
That's over 5g a week with over 1g tne breh I'd be suprised if you hadn't died at least once in the first month
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>>35551719
Idk.
You could prolly take clen in that mode.
Just dont expect dnp results.
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>>35551738
the vial starts leaking if you chew up the stopper too much
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>>35551721
>30mg

Hmm, now I need to find which chinaman you got it from.

>>35551733
100mg is fine for subsequent doses but I'd reccomend starting at 50 so you know what your dick will feel like.
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>>35551783
the chinaman i got it from isnt selling anymore
some random jerkoff on agora like 8 months ago
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>>35551761
This. Especially the stoppers from chief. I've had 2 vials now with little pieces of stopped floating in them.
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Plan on backpacking europe soon,
I've usually run prohomones with at least a test base but I'm planning on being gone for 3-12 months depending on whether i like it or nor, without access to a proper gym and unable to pin for most of that.
so i was considering running a couple pro hormone only cycles, doing mostly body weight exercises daily, to at very minimum keep my muscle base and not lose it all while backpacking.
Anyone have any tips? i have the most experience with epistane, and would plan to do at least one cycle of that, but if anyone has any suggestions for compounds i'd appreciate hearing them.
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>>35551751

I'm not really sure what DNP is. Is it hard to get a hold of? Can you point me in the direction of a good learning resource? Genuinely interested.
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>>35551799
Aw fuck. Maybe I'll look at the DNMs then.
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>>35551457
400mg test c
3-5iu gh
2mg tb500
Tons of Marijuanas
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>>35551805
Low dose anavar if your only goal is to maintain.
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>>35551818
Probably this minus the weed. Nice steady gains and relatively healthy.
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Hnnnnnnggg
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>>35551807
Dnp is a bit harder to get these days, because idiots keep OD'ing and dying.

Best bet is prolly china, dunno of any US sellers. You could check sst and email guys there
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If someone on fraud win the powerball can they give me 3mil, I don't live in america so can't play I promise I will pay it back I am 100% serious.
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>>35551845
sweet
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>>35551805
Don't even bother putting your body through that shit while backpacking. A vacation should be a break. Enjoy it. Blast hard when you come back. Nothing will be lost.

>>35551842
Can't go wrong with a little bit of growth and test.
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>>35551860
How the fuck are you gona pay back 3mil?
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>>35551860
What kind of collateral are you putting up?
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>>35551845
pls gibe
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>>35551814
its cheap as dirt though so i dont think itll be hard to find good raws
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>>35551878
>>35551880
I know this will sound like bullshit but I am very good with stocks and would be able to payback in less than 10 years
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>>35551872
Well yes, but if i look like a shriveled little girl how am i supposed to hit all that foreign pussy?
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>>35551783
I will try 50 first then, to see how it works.

thank you sir
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>>35551457
the fuck you ive i got mine too tell me
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>>35551912
Are you that small now?
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>>35551818
Why C > E?
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>>35551738
lol ikr. But shit, you're rich. inject all the rons bruh
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>>35551933
cus all murrican made pharma is c
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>>35551933
Longer halflife and that's what Watson makes

>>35551941
This
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>>35551948
Gotchu m8
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>>35551807
http://pastebin.com/B23qymQr

email me if you have any questions. US domestic source listed there too
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>>35551088

Which country brah?
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I got ringworm, and I'm breaking out in hives, but I'm not sure if the hives are because of the ringworm or if I'm allergic to tren.

Also, I'm 5 days into my cycle 600 test e3d and 100 tren eod, and my libido has shot way the fuck down. I'm guessing because the tren kicks in before the test that it's just tren supression?
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>>35551643
>>35551660
tfw sloots to smash but not enough cialis
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>>35552031
ill trade you cialis for some sluts
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>>35552014

*300 test e3d, 600 p/week
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>>35551941
I thought 50mg/ml prop was still made?
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>>35551917
>I will try 50 first then, to see how it works.
If it's legit 50 or 100 are yolo doses they give here, like steroids.

I use 10mg and it's more than enough. Anything over 20mg gives me TERRIBLE headaches and makes my jaw clamp.
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>>35552031
>tfw neither
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>>35552045
bang that tranny you fag
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>>35552074
i reached out to it but it didnt respond
>tfw
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>>35552045
What sloots/ml dosage do you want bb

Got all esthers
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>>35551905
I didn't ask about how. I want to know what you are willing to put up as collateral? So when you run off with $3M I will have something to hold you to paying me back if I win.
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>>35552083
>it
kek
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>>35552112
anything goes
>>35552180
genders are complicated and people are so sensitive about it on 4chan
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>>35552083
>turned down by soc tranny
damn

good thing we have that suicide pact lol
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>>35552062
For Viagra? Seems like you're talking about cialis with those doses.
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>>35552198
Oh, yeah. Was talking cialis, my bad.

Who even uses viagra. That's like using sust.
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>>35552158
full access to my bank account and my natty card
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Hey fa.m, doing 1g test-e weekly, bulking, if I gain 1kg a week how much of it would be lean gains? I just wanna know how much of it should I cut after I finish the cycle.
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>>35552406
Prolly diet dependant to a large degree
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>>35552380
I'll consider it.
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>>35552380
>full access to my natty card
Is that a metaphor for your boy hole
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>>35552479
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>>35552479
Every anus feels similar
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>>35552380
Also the location of most of your family and the deed to your house.
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>>35552571
How's the Jerry duo abscess treating ya
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>tfw SST sources/moderators constantly bad-mouthing low-priced sources
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>>35552624
>Shitcunts

I guess they like the illusion that higher cost gear means better even though it all probably comes from the same raws.
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>>35552599
>tfw Myles is shadey as fuck and has everyone treats him well
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>>35552639
Probably does, so what's the difference? When theirs cost 35 and I'm at 20-25 on average, and mine's scoring 7x test levels drawn at 80 hours vs their 5x test levels drawn at 52 hours. I'm not doing anything special, so how does their value argument make sense absolutely? Everyone just likes to turn their head.
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>>35552649
Some of his concentrations seem a little out there, that's all I've cared to look into him, but hey, he's clearly versed in chemistry to a very respectable degree, so I'm not going to fucks wit' his solvent and filtration wizardry.
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>>35552687
people are stupid
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>>35552687
the hivemind mentallity on sst is retarded
remember the guy who threw away a bunch of FL test cause it labmaxed weird, even though nobody got bloods then it turned out to be fine?

lol sst
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>>35552687
I guess they're just retarded. I like your gear, it works.

Maybe advertise a sale. Marketing is a big part of precieved value.
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>>35552738
I'm not suffering for business at all, that's the funny part, I just can't really say anything. You've got a guy with a bulletproof rep lambasting low priced sources as all being a poor investment when most of them have proven unreliable, and I have in the past as well, no matter how much I've just kept my head down recently and focused on the business.
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>>35552624
I really wanna try some of JJ's stuff.
I've got a few sources I like, but fuck, my next blast with the guy I'm wanting to get my gear from is gonna run me $1600 AT LEAST, and that's just for 12 weeks of moderate doses.
FFS bro. I'm too broke for this shit.
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>>35552812
>$1600
breh....

>>35552624
I cant believe you survived
I replaced the oil with ratpoison
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>>35552842
Cunt pls

Just sayin', my gear gets people swole, and they out of line.
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Found JM

>>662369101
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>>35552838
>>35552842
Right?
US. I've got another guy that's a lot cheaper, but I like this guy's gear a little better.
It'd be 10 vials test c, 5 vials mast p, 4 vials deca, 3 vials tne, 100 caps halo, 100 caps adex, 100 caps nolva, 100 caps clomid, 100 caps cialis, and some sdrol for a later blast.
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>>35553000
oops

>>>/b/662369101
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Tired of busting my ass in the gym and remaining average

I'm tired of average

will getting huge and standing out make me happier?
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i didnt know discussing sources without mentioning contact information was a bannable offense
pls dont ban me mods
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RIP Cunt
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>>35552981
>Jerry made my leg fall off
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>>35553037
idk nigger what are your priorities in life?
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Cunt got booped
RIP
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>>35553037
If you're tired of being average and want to become a God, freak, or animal in the eyes of your fellow man and drown in p00n, get huge senpai.

If you don't give a shit about any of that, you may as well stay little and average 'cause it ain't gonna make you happy unless that's what you really want.

Figure out what you want in life.
Get it.
Profit.
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>>35553136
If you're tired of being avergae join us.

The not even close to elite but better than average actually still pretty damn average.

Protip: Don't listen to fraud, listen to people that are actually big.
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>>35553027
i guess the tne and halo are more exotic but still man

>>35553214
can you bench 2 pl8 yet
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>>35553214
why am I being quoted?
>>35553229
yeah, the halo is almost $200 by itself. Fuckin' ridiculous bruh.
I may buy most of the compounds from other, cheaper sources and just go back to him for the exotic shit I can't find anywhere else. I really have no plans to blow through that much cash for just 12 weeks of blasting.
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>>35553129
mods finishing the job my rat poison couldnt

>>35553252
yeah if youre paying that much might as well get legit kigs while youre at it lol
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starting 100mg ed tren ace blast today. i do a 200 mg frontload the first day when i run ace. does that do anything, or am i just brosciencing myself. it feels like it does fwiw.
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brehs, what lottery numbers should I play?
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>>35553682
these
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>>35553229
Almost 4.

Where you been
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>>35553682
4 8 15 16 23 48
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Hate fucked the shit out of my fb last night. Said shed never been fucked like that. She won't leave me alone today.
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as a chub 18 yo male (6'1, 190ish) who wants to lose weight and maybe put on some muscle, would something like taking a medium dosage of clen or test 600 in addition to increased cardio and a better diet be a safe and fast way of losing weight?
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>>35553828
>4 8 15 16 23 48
googled them,something about cursed number from lost.

I'll pass, probably go with quick picks
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>mfw I see old thread and Brad came back to say hi
>but I was sleeping

God dammit :^(
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>>35553852
dude in lost won the lottery with them
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>>35553852
sauce on pic? i swear this chick goes to my gym and that looks like a beach in my town
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>>35553937
https://www.instagram.com/allystone/?hl=en
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What's the best legal weight loss supplement? don't wanna deal with getting the not so legal stuff.
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>>35553866
He says hi
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>>35551527
you felt fucked up with 75mg/day?

I don't know, I started at 50mg for 3 days, felt nothing but awesome and no side effects, upped to 75mg for more 4 days, felt the same and them bumped to 100mg and I'm feeling awesome with absolutely no side effects.

Tren is funny
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>>35553954
calorie deficit
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>>35553954
shoo NYR shoo
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>>35553954
depends on where you live
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>>35553952
>>35553937
post pics of her ass, ill be able to tell from that kek
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>>35553846
If you are chubby at 6 1 and 190lb you need to stop thinking about steroids asap and start thinking about cardio and putting down the fork.

>>35553954
water

drink it instead of stuffing your face
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>>35553960
I hope so
I like that skinny giant
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>>35553852
>>35553986
>>35553952
>https://www.instagram.com/allystone/?hl=en
>ucsb
holy shit kek im from santa barbara
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>>35553986
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>>35554011
>>35553986
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>>35554018
>>35554011
>goleta valley fitness
goddamn fit i <3 you
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>>35554040
Go to her gym and ask her if you can eat her ass.
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>>35554040
place has a lot of good looking grills that workout there.
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>>35554058
i honestly may
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>>35553988
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>>35554121
My day only just started and it is good
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>>35554069
Do people unironically want girls who workouts seriously and not just do some cardio and glute isolations and bodyweight exercises?
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>>35554040
>>35554058
>>35554058
>>35554069
>tfw used to use goleta valley fitness but switched memberships a few months after she shows up
fit
why
why u do dis
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>>35552210
>Who even uses viagra. That's like using sust.
kek.

Some dealer gave me a free sample.

I can get cialis also, but only via Internet.

I'am not into this, so i already thought this was hardcore. But it's nothing special kek.

>>35553954
>What's the best legal weight loss supplement
Food.
Stackers/fat burner from Muscletech for cravings
Green thea
water
training
cardio
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>>35554160
yes
shared interests is a good thing
and i think some muscle looks good as long as its within reason
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>>35554193
Just need a girlie invested in chun li thighs and ass imo
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>>35554139
Glad you saw it :)
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>>35553954
If you're in based Canada then ephedrine.
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>>35551807
I got mine off of aliexpress, which is basically the chinese version amazon.
The bag is just sitting there right now.
I opened it a couple of days ago and the DNP smell hit my face.
I was worried the other people in my apartment might smell it and complain so I closed the box and haven't touched it since.
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>on a gram of tren
>eat twice a day, 1500 cal each
>finish my 2nd meal after gym
>physically full
>still hungry 1 hour later

Fuck me why won't my shitty brain get the damn signal that I'm done?

Gonna have to feel hungry till I sleep.
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>>35554338
try more satiating foods?
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>>35554338
>eat twice a day, 1500 cal each
>eat
>twice a day
????
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>>35554355
try eating 1500 kcals of eggs next time
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>>35554355

500g of chicken breast, 500g of green peas and 500g of roasted potatos is quite a big meal mate.
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>>35554429
>>35554396
Lawl

Then idk.
Drink more 0cal drinks
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>>35554458

downed it with a liter of water.

hate having a defective brain, this only happened a few days after my DNP cycle ended.

I actually ate less and had weaker appetite on my DNP cycle fuck.
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>>35554429
Are you aware of the fact your body can only digest like 30 grams of protein with each meal?
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>>35554472
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>>35553962
I feel like with tren you have to slowly up the dose in order to maintain a balanced tolerance. I feel better that way anyway
>>35554471
BRUH. Eat less at a time and more often.
You're falling prey to the Gainz Goblins.
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>>35554429
>>35554472
>>35554489
I'll get the popcorn ready
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>>35554312

oh jesus christ that smell is fucking terrible, I start feeling like nauseous shit if I get a whiff

>>35554472

MOTHERFUCKER
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>eat two meals a day
>1500kcal with each meal
>500 grams of chicken

just divide it into more meals, so you're satisfied tru the whole day.

Timing is also really important. I also eat less carbs before bed and more after and before training.


>>35554563
There are some studies about it.

Well, the first study showed that when college-aged weight-trainers drink 0g, 5g, 10g, 20g, or 40g of protein after a weight training session, muscle protein synthesis is stimulated maximally at the 20g dose. Interestingly, there were no further increases in muscle protein synthesis at the 40g dose.

too much proteine can also be converted to fat apperently

http://www.precisionnutrition.com/protein-limit
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>>35554605
Similarly, in the second study, when young and elderly volunteers were given 30 or 90g of dietary protein in a single meal, the 30g dose maximally stimulated muscle protein synthesis. Again, there were no further increases in muscle protein synthesis at the 90g dose.
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>>35554625

they weren't on a gram of steroids.
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>>35554605
>>35554625
Okay but you're ignoring all the benefits of over eating on protein anyway

There's reasons to eat protein other than muscle protein synthesis
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>>35554635
These days you never know who's using steroids or not. Maybe some dnp. i don't know.

you can't tell these days breh.

it's the other way around


>>35554659
>Okay but you're ignoring all the benefits of over eating on protein anyway
Tell me about it Manlet

I'am genuine interested what you have to say about it
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>>35554625
These studies are done on untrained, non gear people. We can def use more than 30g in a sitting dog. Look at you.
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does any aromasin get absorbed if it's not taken with fat or is the whole thing wasted?

asking because I started experiencing low estro sides (dry glands, dry scalp, loss of libido, no appetite, night sweats) once I started taking my aromasin with some fat instead of on an empty stomach.
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>>35554713
Okay well very simply, why only eat exactly 20g of protein each meal just because your body can't absorb more than 20? (If you are to accept the studies conclusions)
Your diet has to be made up of something, I'd much rather eat extra protein that isn't being used, than consume extra carbs etc

Plus our bodies don't perfectly absorb everything we cram down our throats every meal. So eating extra is only going to help because there is always a failure rate in how much we absorb.

I'm not suggesting that being on gear means we CAN achieve higher rates of protein synthesis like the others are suggesting.
But that kind of makes sense given that one of the functions of AAS is increasing protein synthesis
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Does this seem lean enough to notice an effect from using mast?
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i'm pretty sure I read a study where the gist of it was digestion takes so long nutrients float around in your blood blah blah blah so dont worry about "limiting" your protein intake per meal.

In fact a part of it said that eating meals too frequently with 30g of protein or whatever it was actually blunted the bodies response and muscle protein synthesis wasn't being maximized. think it was on Lyle Mcdonalds website
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>>35554723
So you're also eating 500grams of chicken at once?

>>35554806
I don't even count it, it's an estimate around 30grams.

Imo it's just better to devide it into more meals so you're satified tru the whole day, instead of eating twice a day. Beside that, timing is also important, like eating the right amount of carbs and protons right after your training.

At the end of the day you just need to get the right amound of carbs/fats/protons per bodyweight anyway for muslce growth.

I always thought it's better to eat more small meals tru a day for fat loss, but that's bs apperantly bs, to some study yolo showed me.

It only benefits for cravings.
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>>35554816
Yeah I'd say so.
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>>35554893
>I always thought it's better to eat more small meals tru a day
>It only benefits for cravings.
I never even cared about the claims it helps fat loss, it just helps cut the cravings as you say

>30grams
My bad, I'm watching star wars at the same time

I agree that eating only 2 massive meals a day is a bit odd
However he MIGHT be limited due to time constraints
I used to eat 5-6 meals a day in the army, because I had heaps of time and nobody gave a fuck if you were trying to add mass and stopped working for 10 minutes to eat
But in my current job they go nuts
So 3 meals and 2 shakes is the easiest way to get what I need in

I'm just saying, it doesn't hurt to eat more protein than the studies suggest you can absorb each meal, because it helps make up your daily intake easier and you're body won't absorb all 30grams every time.
There's always some failure in your bodys digestion
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What would you guys recomend for a pure strenght gains based cycle?
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>>35554939
test and anadrol
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>>35554939
test tren halo
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Tell me fraud, who are your favorite bodybuilders?
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>>35555001
I like steve cook he if counts, he is good looking and seems like a nice guy
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>>35555001
jason blaha
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>>35555001
I like B-Rad and Von moger.
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>>35554938
It's mostly about the cravings ineed. You just need enough macro's each day/ per bodyweight.

I found this;

Sheffield-Moore et al., 2000, both OX studies.

A state of hyperaminoacidemia (high concentrations of circulating anabolic steroids) will also, in the absence of OX increase muscle fractional protein synthesis (FSR). So clearly if you’re protein deficient or lacking frequent protein consumption (every 2 hrs) or using slow-proteins, you’ll limit protein synthesis. I would have to agree with MS in that more frequent protein meals is probably more important than total daily intake. My guess is that 200 grams of protein spread over 8 – 10 feedings would be more effective at maintaining muscle protein synthesis than 300 grams spread over 2 – 3 meals. Remember that circulating essential amino acids appear to be the critical factor, largely independent of circulating anabolic hormones to maintain muscle protein synthesis (Tipton et al., 1999, 2000). Any time circulating concentrations fall, protein synthesis slows considerably regardless of how much juice is in the system.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/diet-bodybuilding/bill-roberts-protein-intake-steroids-158423-2.html
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>>35555049
>using slow-proteins
I mean, unless most of your protein is coming from shakes, you're probably good.

Shit like chicken takes a while to digest
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>>35554939
It depends a fair bit on what you can handle and how you react to compounds
What have you used in the past?
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do mods ban for talking about sources itt?
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>>35555001
ronnie coleman
kevin levrone
arnold
flex wheeler
sergio oliva

but mostly ronnie coleman. I like his charisma and his style.

I like to watch his video's
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>>35555093
Sometimes
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>>35555121
Good list. Ronnie vids are great.
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>>35555157
>>35555093
Always (well as soon as a mod sees)
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>>35555066
Probably.

No matter what i eat, i'am hungry after each two hours exactly.

I notice some slighty difference between complex carbs and non complex carbs tho.

>>35554938
>However he MIGHT be limited due to time constraints
>So 3 meals and 2 shakes is the easiest way to get what I need in

You can also blend your food

or just buy rich piano's real food shake.

>>35555159
eating patato and chicken in his police car, kek.

imagine he would arrest your ass
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>>35555178
Giving out contact info is usually a ban
Saying I like the tren from ___ source is usually okay
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>>35555049
The thing that shits me, is all we can really do, is try to make assumptions based off of these studies used on natties, to try and figure out what MIGHT work for us, or be happening.

>>35555235
>You can also blend your food
ugh, god I hate that, I feel bad for anyone that has to do that to get everything in.
Guess I'm just lucky that I can spread my shit out fairly easily
Also I forgot breakfast, so it's actually 4 meals a day
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>>35551088
Is this natty
Has been lifting for 5-6 years
Is also a manlet
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>>35555284
>>35555235
That's also a benefit for being on gear.

You won't go catabolic if you don't eat for a period of time.

I need also to eat constantly, to protect muh gains when i'am off cycle.

>>35555284
He's talking about ppl on steroids and effectiveness at maintaining muscle protein synthesis.

yeah, most studies are about natty's, that's why i value ppl's experiences more than studies. Best to try it yourself

Just make sure you get enough macro's each day/ per bodyweight. Also eat enough after your training.
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>>35555357
Looks like what manletgains should look like.
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>>35555357
yes. he looks like shit for 5-6 years
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figured you guys would know.. How do I buy viagra online in the US without a script?
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>>35555430
Lel cmon m8
Looks natty but definitely does not look like shit
Has a very good physique imo
Post cb if you're more aesthetic
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>>35555357
You can never tell nowadays.

some ppl are blessed with good genetics, some ppl not.

some ppl need much gear, some ppl not

he could be blasting and cruising for 5 years and look like that.

he could be training natty for 4 years with a strict training and diet and look like that

Everything is possible nothing is certain

this guy claims natty on this picture. What do you think? is he natty? so many questions
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>>35555490
>uploads pic of himself
>yo does this random goy look good
>gets mad at answer

Pls anon
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>>35555378
>He's talking about ppl on steroids and effectiveness at maintaining muscle protein synthesis.
I mean proper studies though
Conducted with controls and large groups of people etc
Stuff that should be indicative of most people, not just a specific group

>i value ppl's experiences more than studies
I have an issue with peoples personal experience in that they tend to hype shit up way too much
>tren sides
I'll tell people the first time I did high tren low test I had terrible mental sides. But that was because I was in a bad emotional state and eventually I got pushed in the wrong direction.

Doing cruise dose of test and low as fuck tren, feel like an absolute machine in every way
It's all very subjective

>>35555401
pfft that core is clearly leagues ahead of mine
But the chest and shoulders aren't as round as mine
(although shoulders could just be angle)
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>>35551088
get for /hoc/ memes > /fraud/ memes
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>>35555535
What is /hoc/?
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>>35555666
Nice trips. /sp/ hockey general trying to steal our get
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>>35555506
>this guy claims natty on this picture. What do you think? is he natty? so many questions

off course he is natty lol... he has no size at all. looks like an anorexic teen.
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>>35555530
>I'll tell people the first time I did high tren low test I had terrible mental sides. But that was because I was in a bad emotional state and eventually I got pushed in the wrong direction.
>Doing cruise dose of test and low as fuck tren, feel like an absolute machine in every way
>It's all very subjective
Honestly Ive never really had any Tren sides other than the bad cardio. Granted I've never ran more than 500mg.
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>>35555530
>I mean proper studies though
Yeah exactly, but then again what defines proper. How much ppl is enough? What factors are prominant etc etc

Beside that, there are always counter studies;

like one study says; caffeine is good for you heart, while another study says caffeine is bad for your heart

same goes for egg yolks and they're probably many more examples. We believe in those studies, because it's ''objective''. But it makes it harder to believe when you read about one study that is stating about something and months later another study is confirming the opposite.

>I have an issue with peoples personal experience in that they tend to hype shit up way too much
You got to be selective

You can't be too naive.

That's why i said; you gotta try it yourself. We work in a different way
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thoughts on HGH?
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>>35555909
Is good
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>>35555711
Fuck off thinker
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What do my fit bros think? Asian qt made it for me
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>>35556039
Omg, keep her
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>>35555730
Once I knew what to expect I don't find I have any issues

>>35555773
The thing is a lot of these studies tend to use very few people, sometimes don't even have a control group.
People tend to read just the summary and not details.

>That's why i said; you gotta try it yourself. We work in a different way
Then every other mother fucker complains about what you do anyway
"Should have run this dose, why even steroids, do this do that"
Just gotta ignore everyone and do whatever you want at the end of the day
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>>35556039
Eat it then smash qt
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>>35556065
>ignore everyone and do whatever you want
Within reason obviously, learning from other people's past experiences is great. But yeah you need to experiment a fair bit to find what works best for you
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>>35556121
>Do not inject air directly in to your arteries it will kill you!
Nah fuck ya! I'm going for it! Gains for days suckers!

I meant more along the lines of
>Don't put anyone else down
>Just put yourself up and let the haters do their thing
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>>35555773

double blind with placebo, controlled environment/diet/activity, subject sample size big enough to counter statistical anomaly and diverse enough to counter both innate genetics and epigenetics

studies also have to be controlled by people who aren't retarded shitheels and can control for or cancel out their cognitive biases so they don't take a big heaping shit in an otherwise good pool of data
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I'll start taking Anadrol on Monday, till the end of my cycle, however, I'll go to the beach on Jan 22, until 25, and there's a 100% percent possibility that I'll drink alcohol, I don't drink regularly, just on vacations or holidays. My question is if I'll be fine with just that weekend of drinking while on Drol, or if I should stop taking it just for those days.
I'll protect my liver with TUDCA at 500mg daily, also starting on monday.
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Whats everyone doing tnight? Im playing bloodbourne with qt and drinking liquor then gonna fuck her 2 or 3 times tnight
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>>35556274
Well its not like your liver is going to shut down after a beer. People tell you not to do it because its "hard on the liver" but its not like you end up in a hospital from doing it for a few days. Its one of those things that might give you long term issues if you keep doing it.

Unless your liver is just shit already, then rip.
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>>35556137
>>Do not inject air directly in to your arteries it will kill you!
Injecting a few ml of air isn't good but it will not kill you. You're thinking about deep sea divers who come up too fast which creates a lot more than a few ml of air.
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>>35556318
My liver is fine, the thing is, than I'll possibly drink heavily those days. On my normal life, I don't even drink beer, or alcohol in general.
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>>35556274
Sure go for it. It'll be 1 less person asking stupid questions on here.
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>>35556278
>pic of qt plox
Dat sounds pretty nice 2bh

Its 3pm Sunday here. Im going to laze around the house watching cricket trying to keep cool. Legs are a tad sore from the gym yesterday and it's my rest day. Ill probably watch a movie at the theatre tonight.
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>>35556329
Nope a single air bubble can block your artery and kill you
Google Air Embolism
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>>35551638
where do you get it from?
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What are acceptable weights on big 3 before considering gear?

Mine (pls be gentle)
>215 bench
>315 squat
>365 diddly
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>>35556449

Earlier you go on gear the more gains you get, don't fucking wait.
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>>35556449
Should be fine what bodyfat are you at?
>>35556473
And the more prone to tendon and joint issues you are because of the large increase in strength
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>>35556492
Probably 14-16% BF... Havent actually tested it

Decent vascularity and somewhat visible abs
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>>35556368
> A single air bubble can kill you
Nope.

> Small amounts of air often get into the blood circulation accidentally during surgery and other medical procedures (for example a bubble entering an intravenous fluid line), but most of these air emboli enter the veins and are stopped at the lungs, and thus a venous air embolism that shows any symptoms is very rare.[2]

For venous air embolisms, death may occur if a large bubble of gas becomes lodged in the heart, stopping blood from flowing from the right ventricle to the lungs.[3][4] However, experiments on animals show that the amount of gas necessary for this to happen is quite variable.[5] Human case reports suggest that injecting more than 100 mL of air into the venous system at rates greater than 100 mL/s can be fatal.

You'd have to load a syringe full with air & inject it & repeat x10.
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>>35556329

that's massive systemic damage from dissolved gasses coming out of solution into not only the blood stream but the entire body, but you're at least partially right

>>35556368

air embolisms take upwards of 100ml to do shit, even then a decent portion can be treated by positioning the patient head down (trendelenburg position) and on their left side

you should probably avoid talking about medical shit you know dick about

>>35556516

hey fuck you guy
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>>35556516
>>35556528

All this just because I was making a joke about ignoring people saying don't do shit that is clearly harmful
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>>35556544
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Oh man am I pissed. Got back from work about 30 minutes ago. While I was there, one of hood girls friends got in my face because I was flirting with another coworker, and there was non-sexual touching.

"You'll let Erica touch you but threaten to get Afreyah fired if she touches you again? What's wrong with you?"

Jesus. I always thought girls were lying when they said people don't understand what is and what isn't okay. Here I am a guy that gets assaulted (by a girl), and people are acting like I should have enjoyed it. I don't see how someone grabbing my shoulders or touching my back is at all comparable to someone grabbing my penis. Also found out some other guys have said it figures I'm gay because I look like a bodybuilder and "all bodybuilders are gay."
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>>35551526
who is this????
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>>35556585
We are all gay.
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>>35556339
chill dude
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>>35556599
I always make sure the balls don't touch, so I'm str8 m8.
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>>35556618
Well meme'd
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>>35556585
>I'm gay because I look like a bodybuilder and "all bodybuilders are gay."

These are the kind of guys who also claim girls don't like muscles
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>>35556544
No its because you're a tripfag who's constantly posting incorrect shit & I'm sick of you being retarded.
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>>35556671
Please tell me what incorrect shit I post
Given that I rarely post anything that could be construed as advice or factual information
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>>35556528
You always jump to huge conclusions and assume things from simple factual statements.

What happens to the brain if a single air bubble large enough to block the blood flow of an artery to the brain gets to the artery and blocks it? You have a stroke. Can stroke kill? Yes. Is this a common thing to have happen? No but it CAN happen.

Are you right that they are treatable and the volumes of air required to cause this to happen are large? Yes you are right but to say a single air bubble can't kill is factually incorrect

>>35556516
>death may occur when a large bubble
>a large bubble
You yourself say that what I said is true. A single air bubble can kill
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>>35556670
They don't really like muscles that much. Not like we do.
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Is it retarded to run 500mg test /week with no ai? I do have nolva on hand tho
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>>35556759
Before someone tells you that thats how golden era guys did it, yes it is retarded. Theres no reason not to have ai when you can easily get it.
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