"Is he natty, /fit/?"
"Nah bro definitely on that juice"
"Could be natty but probably cycling"
"No way can you achieve that natty, are you delusional?"
"Look at those overenlarged biceps with that low bf%. Thats definitely roids bro"
Every single fuckin time
>>35509632
tfw my after picture looks like a before picture
ok nobody uses steroids every1 is natural
r u happy now op
ok close thread then ty
>>35509632
why do dyels always get super mad when someone obviously on roids is called out on it?
pic related is 1,94 and all natty right?
excuse me guys natty limit comin through
>>35509671
people who are new to gyms are still blue pilled about what you can and cannot do
>>35509684
>>35509671
>hurrr let me post obvious roid freaks that way I'll prove my point!!
I've seen people with OBVIOUS natty bodies called out on roids on this shitty board
>>35509632
>im a natural bodybuilder, hard work and smart training built this body
not saying it didnt, but with the help of drugs of course
>>35509714
dolphs arms are smaller than guy in
>>35506523
which seems to be the thread you are upset about
sure he is taller but still not close
>>35509714
wow gr8 argument retard.
whats your qualifications again so we know we should give a fuck re: your opinion on progress pictures bein natty or not?
>>35509714
Probably because they said they were lifting just 6 months and looked like someone who's been lifting for 2 years
>that one guy who believes eveeyone is natty and always uses the defense "hurrr prove to me he used roids but you can't point out his physique show me the needles"
>>35509716
Yup. This right here is well beyond the natty limit.
>>35509724
This is the thread I was actually mad about >>35507551
>>35509632
Yea so sick of it. Pic related, it's me after 1 year training (natty ofc)
>>35509716
Not saying hes natty but Jeff looks half that size in all his pics. This is
>shading
>photoshop
>professional photography
>filters
>>35509769
Jeff seems to go off cycle between comps and shoots. He blows up and shrinks down like crazy, even if you're comparing non-photoshoot stuff.
>>35509758
well most actors with good bodies are on roids, simple as that. the body is achievable without, but that wasnt the question
>>35509776
>off cycle
my favorite fit meme
We always get mixed opinions over this shit because the people posting in these threads are the following
-Kids who don't even lift and think you can look like Lesnar if you take protein
-People who have been lifting for 1-2 years made decent gains and think in 5 years they'll look like Lazar Angelov
-People with shitty genetics who eat like shit,workout like bitches and think the natty limit is ottermode
-Brofessors who think big delts and vascularity=ROIDS yet don't realize both can be genetics
IMO people should live,eat and breath bodybuilding for a year or two and then decide for themselves how far they can go with their genetics and if they should quit or keep going.
>>35509828
ye y would u ever need to get off ur bicycle, it's the greener alternative transportation.
>>35509835
I'm the second category. I don't get it. Once you reach natty limit, can you not grow your muscles anymore even with an overload of calories? So if you reach natty limit within three years, are you just going to maintain after that and make some strength gainz?
>>35509850
The problem is diminishing returns. Roids help you push through that barrier. Of course you can theoretically keep getting bigger, by the time which it would take increases to the point that it's no longer viable.
>>35509850
There is evidence that suggests you can add a kilo of muscle per year without steroids regardless of your current size until your hormone levels decline with age
>>35509850
no, you're limited by both your testosterone and genetics on how much muscle mass you can maintain.
