What supplements are you taking, /fit/? Any research to back up why?
Mine in comments.
>>35461351
I just take decent vitamins and tyrosine, occasional beta alanine, most other shit is shit.
>>35461351
i'm not handing in my natty card you fucking roider fuck
Starting out with a few questions as well:
Any of /fit/ actually get negative effects from cheap / whey concentrate protein?
Any reason to limit supplemental vitamin D intake from milk and other sources (e.g., vitamins)? It's a hormone. I hear it also depletes vitamin K.
Onward, I take a multivitamin, but it doesn't have much magnesium; and getting it from food seems challenging, as I'm trying to get it in amounts above 150% to match calcium (intake from milk) and other nutrients. I've been getting pepitas in 10lb. bulk, but that's like $65 and barely lasts through paychecks. So, it seems like I'm switching up multivitamins.
I also take vitamin K1, because going to the store for and danking multiple cans of spinach isn't that fun. The 500mcg (like 500% DV) are $8 for 200 or something. I split these up in case it increases blood pressure.
I also take Tryptophan and Phenylalanine, the former in pretty decent doses and the latter in pretty minimal, for literally feeling orgasmic. Tryptophan produces B3, which produces NAD, which is shown in labs to reverse aging. NAD is the "respirator" of all cells, providing all cellular energy. TR and PH also synthesize into Serotonin and Dopamine, respectively. Dopamine receptors are protected by antioxidants, so I get lots of cinnamon and cloves. Cloves seem to not ever run out of clove-ness for tea. It's fucking fantastic, and it gives that feeling from clove cigars. ..I used to get histidine HCL, which is pretty intense also, but I seem to be getting enough protein to spend the money on something more productive.
Flaxseed meal.
>tfw 6.3g Omega-3s per oz.
3K+ Cal diet, but mostly oats, PB, flax, milk, pepitas, honey, and stevia. Some butter, coconut oil, fruit.. lots of cinnamon, and some coffee and cocoa.
>>35461960
>>35461351
Vitamin D.
I had a pretty fucking severe deficiency, and I'm from the north so it's not that easy to fix it with sunlight
I use multivitamin, creatine and WPC.
>>35461960
>Any of /fit/ actually get negative effects from cheap / whey concentrate protein?
I don't think there are any apart from problems with digestion (farts...). The WPC I use is made in my small country by cheese/butter factory and it's without flavouring.
Any decent multivitamins on Amazon that are inexpensive, have 100% magnesium, no iodine, no selenium, and a limited amount of vitamin D (100% maybe)?
>>35461351
ZMA is one of the few that I actually feel does something.
Taurine works great. I used to get real bad cramps even though I was hydrated well and ate bananas. Now I barely get any after a really intense workout.
Fish Oil too, not sure it does anything. But there is a lot of research that says it should be good.
I supplement Vitamin D and fish oil.
I'm wondering if supplementing Zinc would be a good idea.
>>35462977
>>35463012
>fish oil
You can check out the price per gram of omega 3s vs. flax.
Bob's golden meal on Amazon is <$20 for 8lbs. at 22% omega 3s. It's about 2c per gram.
Pills are some 10-20c per gram, it seems.
For those of you who take Vitamin D, taking too much can have some negative effects. I used to take 5000IU but now only 1000 or 2000
>>35461351
centrum for men + modafinil + caffeine + cocaine and you're golden
some astaxanthin for that oxidative stress is fine too
>>35461351
whey, creatine, multivitamin, vitamin D, zinc, fish oil, caffeine & l-theanine
>>35463398
I'm a shut-in so I need the extra D.
>>35463012
If you jerk off a lot then you can't really go wrong with extra zinc.
>>35463378
Flax's omega 3 is ALA which is pretty much worthless. The conversion rate is terrible.
whey, creatine, multivitamin, off the shelf test boost
>>35461351
I would pour eight scoops in a gallon of milk down her back and drink it out of her butt.
>>35463611
Pretty sure it's only limited by nutrition, requiring B3, B6, C, zinc, and magnesium.
Neprinol enzyme blend, Acetyl-l carnitine, PABA, l-arginine.
I have specific issues, although from what I've read enzymes seem like something everyone should take whether in a supplement or through fermented foods or high-enzyme foods like raw pineapple.
>>35464548
What about chilled pineapple?
>>35464661
I've only heard of high temperatures denaturing enzymes, I haven't heard anything about low temperatures having that effect.
Are supplements/vitamins really useful? Or is it all placebo bullshit, red pill me, and if there are good ones which do you recommend?
>>35464732
The only vitamin I've heard that isn't helpful to take for RDA is vitamin C (ascorbic acid), that it's not the full complex.
>>35462926
Seriously, I can't find a full multi without iodine and selenium.
crack cocreatine
>>35461351
Can she seriously deadlift 332lbs.??
she must be doing something unnatural
>vitamin d
>multivitamin
>whey
>creatine
>fish oil
I think this is fine.
>>35466905
No protein supplements?
>>35461960
>negative effects from cheap / whey concentrate protein?
yep, low amino acids so the protein isnt properly used to create muscle
>>35466927
>whey
>>35461351
fish oil
glucosamine
zinc
WPC
will start using creatine when i start bulking
>>35467004
>what is casein or soy
astaxanthin for my eyes (prevents macular degeneration) along with the fact that it acts as an internal sunscreen and is a very potent antioxidant
r-lipolic acid to prevent glycation and regular my blood sugar
glutothione for extreme antioxidant power!
raw cloves and raw cinnamon = orac
dmae for brain and kewl dreams and deep sleep
probiotics for my guts; specifically anything targeting my colon. keeps me pooping a lot and helps my brain and immune system
BCAAs and acetyl l carnitine before i work out
maca and other adaptogens to regular my adrenal glands (which control hormones) also keeps my stress levels low, i'm prone to panic attacks if i do dumb stuff like drink too much caffeine or eat carbs before bed
>>35467113
>astaxanthin
god tier supplement.
i used to take krill oil because it contains it.
also been linked with preventing alzheimer's
>>35467192
yes, you should read the book "grain brain" if youre concerned about alzheimers. its written by an actual doctor not a hippie. its full of actual studies and facts about sugar and alzheimers.. how alzheimers is actually just type 3 diabetes
>>35461351
This is literal /fit/girl perfection. Please prove otherwise
FIsh oils
Protein powder
BCAA
And I have no idea what BCAA is used for. If anyone can tell me.
>>35461351
>comments
>>35461960
actually using supps
>>35467301
Why the fuck are you using BCAA's and Protein powder?
Mate...
Did you start lifting yesterday?
BCAA and Protein = SAME THING FUNCTIONALLY
If you're using BCAA's, you're on a cut and you want to prevent your muscles from becoming catabolic, and causing you to lose your muscles. It's there if you want to take in lots of protein without the calories.
>>35467268
Different anon, but I read it and while it's an interesting hypothesis, I think it's highly unlikely for that to be the case.
Protein powder
Fishing oil
Vitamin D
Multivitamin
>>35468081
I don't know. I got it from a friend who didn't like it.
I tought it was something for muscle recovery ot energy.
Anyway, I'll finish it since I like the taste of it.
>>35461351
Whey
Fat Burner
Vitamin D
Multivitamin
Whey
Caffeine
Multivitamin
Beta-Alanine
>>35467268
If you actually look at the citations in that book they don't match the claims made in the book. Should be on the fiction aisle next to Gary taubes
>>35468453
Muscle recovery, maintenance, sure.
But it shouldn't have sugar in it
REEE
>>35461351
iodine
selenium
zinc
tribulus
biotin
>>35461960
>he fell for the antioxidants momscience
I take multivitamin that also has antioxidants and shit like ginko and ginseng. Then I take green coffee + chromium, which has helped stabilize my hunger (Before when I was nervous or anxious I could eat everything), then beta-carotene for dat dere skin and antioxidant effects. Also melatonin, which besides being the only virtually harmless sleep aid is also a powerful antioxidant and releases HGH during the night.
I'm good.
>>35467113
>glutothione for extreme antioxidant power!
>he doesn't take N-Acetyl-Cysteine
laughinggirls.png
>>35461960
>he fell for the antioxidants momscience on Dr Oz
>>35468555
>he didn't get quads round here
>>35468496
Most BCAA are flavoured you fucking dumbass
>>35468509
>he tries to call out something with absolutely nothing
Go boil a toothbrush with and without cinnamon and tell me which tastes the most like water.
>>35468518
Fuck guys, I've been reading about the Astaxanthin stuff and it sounds good. Considering my current supplement stack, listen in the post above, would it be beneficial to add this other shit?
>>35468496
I'll continue taking both since I drink my BCAA during the workout and it taste better that regular water.
Shit I might even take it for the rest of my life since I got used to it.
And protein shakes post-workout.
EPA/DHA
B6
Biotin
Beta-Carotene
Zinc
Vitamin D
Vitamin C
Astaxanthin
Selenium
Silica
Resveterol
Grapeseed
Flaxseed oil (liquid)
Olive oil (liquid)
Coconut oil (liquid)
>>35468641
>b6, basically-A, zinc, d,c
>not a multi
>>35468601
Mine is unflavoured and bitter, I didn't know they were all flavoured but I understand why, I never had mine flavoured though. I use MusclePharm 3:1:2, it's got ultra purity.
Multivitamin
Fishoil
Brotein powder
BCAA before fasted training
Sometimes Mr Hyde preworkout
Currently trying:
L-Arginine 1.5g daily, don't notice any difference (wen't up to 3g), won't buy again once this is finished
Trying in future:
Ursolic acid
Citrulline Malat
Any other recommendations?
>>35468696
>some supplements are on both sides
That's a pretty unhelpful picture without the website
>>35468697
>Citrulline Malat
Just get a fucking tub of sugar and pour it down your throat while washing it down with coffee.
>>35461351
>no whey
>no sups
just home cooked meals, feeling better than ever
>>35468710
>being too stupid to google
http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/snake-oil-supplements/
multi, D, zinc, magnesium, B.
multi
vitamin D3
creatine monohydrate
in the market for cheap whey and test booster
never before have i hnnnng'd so
>>35468724
Any reasons against it?
https://examine.com/supplements/citrulline/
>>35461351
multivitamin, calcium/magnesium, fishoil, vitamin c, creatine, whey protein and preworkout
honestly i dont even know if any of them work really except the protein/preworkout.
what do you guys think i should get rid of?
>>35468805
I opt for dietary vitamin C instead of supplements.
Will creatine accelerate my balding? Is this true?
why is vit D so popular?
I've noticed changes from taking zinc, vitamin C, magnesium but vit D doesn't seem to do anything and I've been fine without it all my life
What are some good brands when buying drugs?
iherb.com/search?sug=melatonin&kw=Melato&rank=1#p=1
Which brand should I choose?
>>35468881
I'm taking it since a few months and still have all my hairs. It probably depends on your genetics.
>>35468882
Vitamin D is important for hormons and many people are deficit in it.
>>35468882
D vitamin deficiency is very common in the northern parts of the world because we don't get enough sun. personally I take it because my blood work showed I was deficient.
you shouldn't really "notice changes" from any of the stuff you take unless you're already deficient. vitamins and minerals are things you want in the correct amounts. more isn't better.
>>35468881
i also want this answered
>>35468916
http://examine.com/faq/does-creatine-cause-baldness/
>>35468873
i already get 100% from my multivitamin but i figured more couldn't hurt
>mine in comments
oh look, reddit is here
>>35468896
>melatonin supplement
>not tryptophan
>>35468923
>>35468896
I'm asking cause I am already balding. Not hard but it's there. Not the receding line, but the thinning of my entire upper scalp. I recon there are still a few years left till I go shave mode but I would like to keep my hair for as long as I can
>>35468896
I got melatonin 5mg and it works ok. Sometimes I need to take 2 but I try to not use them except if I need it. I heard there are some that are half instant release and half slow release for over night so they are more effective but never found any. Also some people say more than 1mg will fuck you up. But what do they know
>>35468933
hey man im pretty much in the same boat. my temples arent receding too hard yet but in the light i can see how thin they are... a few more years and they'll be all gone
>>35468933
Yeah don't take it if you're already balding.
>>35468930
What is that?
>>35468948
Which brand did you get? That website seems to list US brands (e.g. Now Foods) and I don't know which are good and which are shit quality.
>>35466905
Everything you said, but:
Creatine, only if you're not having problems with MPB.
+Zinc. I know most multis already contain it, but I take atleast 30mg on lifting days, otherwise the usual RDA of 15mg or so.
+Caffeine. 200mg before workout. Feelsgoodman.
+~10g of olive oil in the mornings.
anyone has experience with taking modafinil? what should I expect?
>>35468972
I don't think it matters to be hones. I'm not from US but I went to the nearest pharmacy and asked if they have melatonin. Mine is pic related
I got some cash atm so I'm taking the Carbon line. It's helping me survive the Bulgarian method for sure. I bought in bulk for a long time but this is more economical time wise.
>>35468607
Kek, what exactly do you think antioxidants do?
>>35461397
everything you take is shit lmao
>>35468525
NAC is the precursor to glutothione, so why bother taking the extra step
>>35468696
this is so fucking stupid and backwards
>>35468697
take arginine and ornathine right before you work out, youll notice a big difference
>>35468933
look up DHT. testosterone converts into DHT sometimes and that is what destroys your hair follicles. look up DHT killing shampoo
LYCOPENE nhibits DHT naturally by down regulating or inhibiting 5 alpha reductase, the enzyme responsible for converting testosterone into DHT
>>35471074
Saw palmetto
Vit D, ZMA, Fishoil
>whey protein
>creatine
>multivitamin
>preworkout
418mg of caffeine and tons of stimulants per scoop, works like a charm
>>35468697
>Mr. Hyde
Mah nigga, best one on the market
>>35461351
fish oil, glucosamine hcl and chondroitin
>>35468933
fucking asap get RU58841 you dumfuck.
>>35468697
>>35468724
Since I started taking 3-4gramm of L-Arginine and citrullin malat each, I'm not that fucked up after workout and feel much better the next day and have more energy.
A dose of 1-2 gramm does shit. Take 4g and you will be able to push yourself longer.
Also taking:
fish oil
creatine
ZMA (THIS can be absolutelly recommended)
Maca
>>35461351
>N.O. Explode because it came w/ some Black Friday deal
>Amino Acids
>Glutamine
>Test booster
>Omega 3
>Multi (only because deployed and food out here is complete garbage)
>Protein Powder
I like it.
So from what I've read on here this should be the ultimate stack (most would be covered by a multivitamin):
Sup Stack:
-Fish Oil{Omega 3's}=WD-40 for humans
-Glucosamine and Strontium=Joint and bone health
-ZMA{Zinc Monomethionine Aspartate, Magnesium Aspartate and Vitamin B6}
-Astaxanthin=prevents macular degeneration
-R-lipolic acid=prevent glycation and regular my blood sugar1
-Glutathione=prevents damage done by oxygen
-Raw cloves and raw cinnamon=Oxygen radical absorbance capacity
-DMAE=Cool dreams and deep sleep
-Probiotics=maintain a healthy gut culture
-BCAA=muscle support
-Acetyl L-carnitine=depression, Parkinson's disease, stroke, and Peyronie's disease.
-MACA=Hormone support
-Protein Powerder=building/maintaining muscle
-Citrulline Malat=Energy boost
-Vitamin D3=Sun support
-Melatonin= Good ass sleep
-Seratonin= Stress relief
-Cranberry=urinary system
-L-Arginine=Cock health
>>35472283
You can't take serotonin.
>>35461351
>vitamin d
unless i get it from food
>zma
zinc deficiency causes low test, and magnesium helps with sleep (probably alot of other stuff too)
>whey, maltodextrin, instant oats
because macros
>creatine
because it works in 3/4 people, me included
>bcaa
when I cut (rarely), I do fasted training and IF
>>35472918
>probably alot of other stuff too
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=75
This site is great.
Vyvanse, a probiotic, and fasoracetam.
>Vit D 2000iu because I'm a britbong and we have no sunlight
>Zinc because I enjoy shooting huge loads
> Multi-vit
>Omega 3 for joint & heart health
>Creatine for a bit of a strength boost
> Phenibut occasionally for anxiety
>>35461351
honestly just standard multivitamins and omega 3,6,9
any others that anyone would recommend?
>>35472918
Maltodextrin is sugar. There's no reason to take that, especially not with
>>35472918
>>35473039
..oats*
>>35463843
kek
>>35472999
Thinking of dropping the Vyvanse, but I'm afraid that my entire life is a lie and that the only reason I was able to graduate college and get a well paying job was because of it.
who academic-/fraud/ here? I'm probably going to take up Semax in favor of it.
>>35473242
What seem like the benefits of Vyvanse? Why not drop it for coffee and other nutrition?
yes yes good goyim. continue buying these supplements. they make you stronger.
>>35461351
I get some vitamin D regularly
>>35473291
Prolonged focus and wakefulness that I don't get from caffeine or other stimulants. Modafinil made my attention span worse, but helped me keep awake.
>>35473343
I've taken Adderall, so I realize what you're saying; but I haven't taken it recently enough to contrast it with other options.. especially not those I had yet to try.
What makes more sense for increased energy is nutrition though. >>35461984, and just Tryptophan even, can provide literally all cellular energy through B3, and just 2g of it is almost twice the RDA of B3 (33mg) if solely converted as such.
That amino acid also produces melatonin and serotonin.
Furthermore, ADHD's "tendency" is listed as low dopamine, which could be remedied with phenylalanine. The same logic implies that increasing energy (and dopamine and its stimulation) are the cures to ADHD, per medications being stimulants. It makes more sense to provide more of something instead of just pushing it to where it could be.. and also for increased energy being more "entertaining".
>>35461351
>Mine in comments
Fuck off
>>35472283
Kek.
Also taking melatonin regularly is not good. Only use it to fix your sleep.
>>35470992
"The results of this study determined that short-term, oral intake of GSH does not improve glutathione status, nor reduce markers of oxidative stress in healthy adults, and thus routine supplementation may not offer health benefits in the absence of disease or oxidative challenge."
Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3162377/
"There is, currently, no known benefit of orally ingested glutathione that cannot be more readily mimicked by supplementation of N-acetylcysteine and couldn't theoretically be aided by a high protein diet including dietary sources rich in L-cysteine (whey protein)."
Source: https://examine.com/supplements/glutathione/
>>35475211
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetylcysteine
This is tight.
Daily:
>centrum men's multivitamin
>magnesium 400mg
>2.2mg K1
>1.2mg K2
Weekly
50,000 IU Vitamin D
2.5mg iodine
dat dere celltech
>>35473326
you forgot to say no homo
>>35474188
>Furthermore, ADHD's "tendency" is listed as low dopamine, which could be remedied with phenylalanine.
Until tolerance develops due to downregulated dopamine receptors.
>Morning
Fish oil (heart health)
Vitamin D (body can't make it efficiently, doctor prescribed)
Multivitamin (insurance)
>Pre-workout
Black coffee
BCAA (if lifting fasted)
>Post workout
Whey protons
>before bed
ZMA (recovery and sleep)
>>35461351
eca stack
wpi
krill oil
multivits
on a pretty hard cut atm, considering how much fat I put on int he last semester of uni
It should be noted that any supplementation comes after proper diet, exercise, and sleep.
Here's my spreadsheet anons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIEpKF1FTc7kDhqcPDhBoh2q4uGjz-7Dhif9p7oEbu8/edit?usp=sharing
>>35478170
Best thing to do during a tolerance break is to get a doctor to prescribe your Namenda off-label and if you can't do that, take some magnesium after you're day's over.
I'm still at 30mg of Vyvanse, which is supposed to be as much as 15mg of Adderall.
>>35480184
Vyvance is just lysine-dextroamphetamine (Adderall + protein to ease side-effects)
I doubt there is that extreme a difference in bioavailability
>>35480234
That lysine binding agent is what make Vyvanse the only prodrug dexamphetamine, so there's already a difference in how it metabolizes. It's not just "adderall + protein", it's literally the prodrug that creates d-amp in adderall and then mimics as an extended release.
Wanna run an ECA stack but its almost impossible to get ephedrine in my state. Any good alternatives?
