/OWG/ - A thread for the discussion of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults and shitposting to a minimum.
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>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
http://pastebin.com/1HgVcGam
http://pastebin.com/wCXeXfkk
http://www.chinfl.blogspotco.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq
http://www.iwf.net/doc/technical.pdf
http://yashathoughts.com/
>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.
Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:
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Red Lights
>>35437270
so fucking tired of mattie webms
when will this meme end
>>35461019
why is she so perfect, anon?
>>35461034
>>35461019
>tfw mattie is stronger than you
feels bad m8s
>>35461067
She can't tell when she does a power?
Is she stupid?
real waifu right here desu senpai
how do i stop jumping back/away from the bar on snatch.
my form feels great around the 80-90% mark but once it goes past that i start jumping back/away from the bar
>>35461084
>>35461088
She has a background in gymnastics and cheerleading. Very nice to start weightlifting with that experience.
im not a fan of catalyst's programs. i'm looking for a strength program preferably around 6-8 weeks. i usually just do RSR and program classic/accessories on my own.
so, first four weeks (loading phase on the RSR), i do snatch/clean pulls (~80%), presses, jerks, RDLs, while still doing the classics.
e.g.
A
BSQ (RSR)
Snatch
Snatch Pull
Abs
B
Clean and Jerk
Clean Pull
Press
C
BSQ (RSR)
Snatch
Snatch DL
Abs
REST
D
BSQ
Clean and Jerk
Cl. DL
Power Snatch
Abs
REST
REST
more or less this way for the first four weeks, some minor altering.
after,
A
BSQ
Snatch
Clean and Jerk
B
Power Snatch
Power Clean
Abs
C
BSQ
Snatch
Clean and Jerk
REST
D
BSQ
Snatch
Clean and Jerk
REST
REST
is this butch programming?
inb4 follow someone's programming
please recommend non-catalyst progs?
>>35461486
>Abs
>>35461267
better than mattie/10
>>35461540
i dont get it?
usually weighted planks, l sits, etc
is this a meme lift?
vid (dot) me (slash) WrSe
I was going to have a hand at snatches, but I was too scared. I also did power cleans, after reading more about properly doing the first pull on the catalyst athletics site (I was pulling with high hips, arms not vertical, I went for vertical arms as it reccomends) and it was ugly. the bar either went straight up or around my knees. So I think I'll work on that some more before posting here. Any tips?
it would really be appreciated.
>>35461673
what do you mean is it a meme lift?
>>35461540
>>35461651
he's just bein a shitter, its fine to do ab work
>>35461290
Where's your coach lad? You might be rushing to extension, not staying over the bar long enough, but that's the only thing I can think of. Consistency comes with practice
>>35461486
Torokhtiy has a free program on hookgrip
https://www.instagram.com/p/BADXmD6G1tS/
>>35461999
dont really have a coach right now, and def both of those ive always had problems with, what are good fixes?
and yeah im geting really consistent with 70-75 which is great as my max is 78
>>35462020
i didn't like it, either. i found it unnecessarily complicated and hard to follow.
>>35461673
Overhead squats are not a meme if you want to snatch
Post your clean/power clean here anyway, odds are there's plenty wrong with it, anon can help you with what you need to work on.
Bar should go pretty much straight upwards, your knees move out of the way, the bar doesn't go around them.
>>35462078
just do bulgarian
@commisar
>>35461737
needs better shoulder mobility
>>35462073
What's your opinion of Mattie
>>35462091
yeah, maybe. just looking for something with slightly more structure.
>>35462111
she's attractive and a good lifter, don't get some peoples obsession/hate w/ her tho
>>35462146
>she's attractive and a good lifter
Good answer. I will help you with your problems if I can.
>>35461019
Can somebody make a mattie filter or something? The only pleasure I have in seeing these are that the posters are all shit and will never qualify to a national event to be able to see in her person
>>35462197
how do I into patience/ staying over bar longer in snatch?
>>35462055
early arm bend fucked everything up
>>35462082
yeah I was just kidding and yeah I think I will post them
yeah
maybe I'll get a hold of some training plates or something, I'm currently stacking plates to get the bar at the right height and it's annoying af
>>35462225
Post video.
>>35462073
Do you have any videos?
>>35462248
>>35462265
this is from a few weeks back but this is basically what happens every time i miss, hey atleast my misses are consistent and im only messing one thing up i guess??
>>35462358
who da girl wit da pink a$$?
>>35461486
LSUS 10-5-3-Peak
>>35462358
i notice that when i do some heavy muscle snatches as a warmup ( usually i muscle snatch up to 60/65 kg) i stay much more closer to the bar and to pull under the right position.
i'm nowhere near to being an experienced lifter, take my advice with a grain of salt, that's just my personal experience
>>35462384
one of the xfit class coaches
>>35462420
what %of max is that for you
>>35462358
I think you are rushing a bit, it doesn't look like you get into a proper power position with your torso upright, have you tried slowing everything (up to extension) right down to a crawl? Like in that one apti video where he does the incredibly slow pull
>>35461737
You aren't securing the bar overhead, you're just holding it with your arms. Retract your shoulder blades and internally rotate your arms while pushing up. The weight should be supported by the musculature if your upper back, not your arms.
>>35462452
sorry forgot to mention, that's 90% of my muscle snatch max, or 60/65% of my snatch max.
>>35462453
ill try doing that next time, thanks this sounds like it could help.
yo brahs
i hear the nike romaleos are pretty wide-fitting
I wear a 9G (UK) but my feet are often a tad too broad for narrow shoes
will I be aight for some 9 romaleos?
i was wondering what % of my back/front squat i should be able to clean and snatch to say i have decent technique
>>35462528
http://www.qwa.org/Resources/Calculators.aspx
>>35462528
Snatch = 66-64% of the squat, 38-42% of the deadlift
Clean = 80-84% of the squat, 54-56% of the deadlift
squat here = back squat
>>35462528
front squat x3 should be your clean.
Snatch should be around 80% of your clean and jerk
>>35462358
how much do you weigh / total? I think we're pretty much identical. lel
>>35462553
>>35462561
>>35462566
good, according to these % i should have a 260 total, but i barely have 210
i think it's gonna be a long long time
>>35462566
>tfw pathetic backsquat at 130
My CJ max is 97, which is pretty good efficiency considering my weak legs.
My fucking snatch is only 70. I don't know why i bother.
>>35462604
dude i snatch 85 with a 180 back squat, you're still not the worst
>>35462604
More volume m8. my BSQ is 135 but my last meet was 100/85 (my c&j form is really shitty)
>>35462604
>same squat
>102.5 CnJ
>80 snatch
>I probably weight for than you
Brother
>>35462578
78/[email protected] for my last comp
>>35462595
>>35462604
>tfw 144 BS means i should be at 89/111
Can you squat too deep?
I'm not worried about my back because somehow, despite never training ankle flexibility, but I can literally touch my ass on the back of my heels and still maintain a vertical back angle.
But I'm worried if I'm going too deep and putting too much stress in my knees.
What equipment can I use to protect my knees?
>>35462689
Yeh if it feels uncomfortable or you lose tightness it's too deep. I go hammies to calves or only just past that. Calf injury flared up real bad if I rest on or bounce on them
Why is durkz so autistic?https://www.instagram.com/p/_FgZPYG1pe/
>>35462751
Is there a standard on how deep you should go in training?
>>35462751
i personally go as deep as i can without butt wink (wich is hamstring resting on calves for me), but going past parallel is all you need to get full leg development
>>35462671
>>35462658
I'm 83kg right now (although tall at 190cm), feel pathetic that i can't hit bodyweight.
I envy shorter guys for not looking like new born giraffes when they lift.
>>35462812
How do you have buttwink?
I'm actually curious as to why I can go really low and have a vertical back when I don't train ankle mobility at all.
Maybe my heel on my shoes is bigger than I thought
>>35462852
@kuya
>>35461267
Holy shit shes so cute. I hope my daughters this awesome.
>>35462866
some people do mainly due to hip structure, my trainer can do a front split but he cant squat past 2/3 inches below parallel without buttwink, i cant even touch my toes while standing and i need to squat really really deep and with a very upright torso to have it
>>35462866
hamstring mobility/hip mobility are gona be the big things ive found
>>35462918
Probably hamstring flexibility then.
I do this before lifting
http://moveskill.com/movement/band-hamstring-stretch/
>>35462911
Sounds like you need this
http://moveskill.com/movement/band-hamstring-stretch/
>>35462941
i'm afraid to tear my hamstrings when i do these kind of exercises, i know it's stupid but it hurts in a strange way and it freaks me out
>>35462094
will do
>>35462454
thanks that makes sense as to why my arms are giving out. should I do the same on OHP and jerks?
>>35462966
Yeah same! I thought I was stretching my sciatic nerve.
Turns out that's just how it feels.
>>35463005
>>35462941
thanks for the tip anyway, static hamstring stretches dont really seems to work, i've been stretching daily for a months and i've barely gained a few degree of rom
>>35463025
It's a dynamic stretch, you warm up to this stretch with static stretches though.
>>35462985
Yes, the only real difference between your snatch and jerk overhead position should be hand placement
Just finished 6 months of SS and looking to get into the oly lifts.
I was looking at Dan John's neophyte routine while I learn the technique, before progressing onto his Big 21 routine. Are routines appropriate for my skill level and progression? Neophyte routine is as follows:
3 times per week.
Warm Ups
Snatch : 8 Sets of Doubles
Clean and Jerk :8 Sets of Singles
Front Squat: 5 Sets of 5
Press : 5 Sets of 3
If your form is perfect, you add weight the next workout, if not, you stay at this weight.
>>35463191
vid (dot) me (slash) GhVI
here's a clip of my shitty clean from a shitty angle
if someone could webm it it'd be appreciated, and thanks for the guy who did it for the first one.
I may post the vids from another angle. I have some side angle ones but the camera was on the floor
>>35463214
No. You need to still do bench press and deadlifts. Also, front squats shouldn't take precedence over back squats. You need to take priority in getting stronger in the low bar back squat.
You don't get stronger doing the quick lifts. You get stronger by doing squats, deadlifts, presses and power cleans. Nothing else will cut it.
What oly lifts can I do in a gym with only metal plates? Power clean and push press right?
>I promise I won't drop them
>>35463346
>You need to still do bench press
why
>>35463357
Because Clarence Kennedy does
>>35463351
Hang variations with weights you can safely lower to the hip.
>>35463375
Yeah, but why else?
>>35463214
Instead of setting it up like that, I'd rather see something like:
A:
Clean+Jerk - 8x1
Clean Pull - 6x3
Back Squat - 5x5
Press - 5x3
B:
Snatch - 8x2
Snatch Pull - 6x3
Front Squat - 5x3
Push Press - 5x5
C:
Snatch - 8x2
C+J - 8x1
Back Squat - 5x5
Random bro lifting here.
With abs every day.
Neglecting pulls is bad.
>>35463395
Not him but you should do some work on the chest to prevent imbalances.
Weighted dips are good, as is incline bench. I find flat bench really fucks with my mobility.
>>35463395
Because it is one of the core lifts of strength training, and there is just NO alternative to heavy compound barbell lifts.
>>35463417
Yeah good reason. Weighted dips are good.
>>35463420
For powerlifting, its a core lift. For everyone else its optional.
>>35463384
What's a hang variant
S-sorry
>>35463357
You definitely don't need to, but it's not terrible for a beginner.
>>35463439
Low bar back squats, STANDING presses, heavy deadlifts, bench presses and power cleans are lifts that have NO substitute, and are NOT optional if you actually want to get stronger.
That's the bottom line, and if you don't want to accept it, GET OUT.
>>35463420
you can do whatever pec dominant exercise you want, even weighted pushups are good if you like them.
you have no reason to stick to the bench press if you dont want to
>>35463472
why low bar? get out you fucking faggot, that aint plg
>>35463472
I agree but disagree with lowbar squats.
Have you heard of Clarence Lennedy?
>>35463472
Please don't try to bring this unfunny piece of shit lowbar meme back to this general
>>35463452
Start the lift holding the bar at your hips, above the knees or below the knees. The bar returns to your hips between each rep.
>>35462073
Warm up with muscle snatches. You're probably looping the bar around and not cueing your elbows enough which means you have to jump back to catch the bar in the right spot
>>35463472
>deadlifts
>lowbar squats
>in weightlifting
I think you're lost, pudgy lifters general is thattaway
>>35463472
>NOT optional if you actually want to get stronger.
But ive do none of those things regularly and I guarantee im stronger than you
>>35463504
>>35460967
i was wondering why all catalyst athletics programs splits the lifts during thr week, wouldnt it be more optimal to do the classics at least 3 times a week?
i really dont see the point of snatching 1xweek in a 5day/week routine
>>35463522
We don't want him either.
The baseline fact is for general strength, you need movement categories rather than individual movements (sport demands are a different story, of course). It makes jack shit difference whether you flat bench, dip or floor press compared to the fact you're actually doing some sort of horizontal-ish pressing.
>>35463346
>>35463415
Thank-you for your advice. Any reccommendations of advice if I were to refine the routine to 3 days per week? Not looking to be competitive at this stage, Im using it to complement Army PT and possibly kickboxing at a later stage.
>>35463716
Not true. Read some of my work (I'm yours truely, Mark Rippetoe).
You people are worthless. The reason you should low bar squat is that weight lifters already did front squats. The posterior chain needs some work, front squats are extremely quad dominant and it would die you benefit. also, more lower back.
Deadlifts are important for the EXACT SAME REASON. The are an ESSENTIAL lower back excercise and create a CNS response like no other that will teach you how to pull heavy objects from the floor.
>>35463833
>implying pulls and high bar squats arent more than enough for my posterior chain
>implying the front squat is used to bring up quads
i get more than enough quads development from my back squat, the front squat is used to strenghten the back and the catch position of the clean.
I don't know why I even fucking bother with weightlifting, I deadlifted 235kgs, benched 150 kgs and BS 185 kgs before i quit PL and my records at weightlifting are puny 105/125 (bw around 90kgs for all lifts).
Anyway, just want to share my today video with someone, also tips on technique are welcome. I torn two ligaments on my right foot playing football some two months ago, and recovery is not very fast, so weights are far from my best. Strength is coming back fast, but snatch is really lagging (123 FSx5, I probably should do more than 83x2 snatch and 103 1+2 CJ).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9WNAdpCxjg
>>35463938
My classics are a lot higher than yours and not only do I weigh less, but I lift less as well.
Know what that means?
It's fucking tech, stop trying to feel bad for not having perfect tech when you just start.
128/155 @ 83
first time weightlifting today
It's normal to almost black out after every lift and ache on the soles of your feet right?
R-right?
Both of these went away near the end of my sets though
>>35464030
yes
>>35464010
What do you lift?
>>35464069
I just told you
128kg snatch/155kg cnj
>>35464010
>155
you clean and jerk 155 with back squat lower than 185?
wtf
>>35464094
Not those lifts
>>35464103
I dont bench
175kg bs
160kg fs
210kg floor pull
>>35464095
yeah what the fuck, i squat that and i can barely do a decently fast pull with 155
is ilya the best weightlifter who ever walked on this planet?
>>35464165
Aramnau is better but his government failed him so he can not compete
>>35464118
160 fs 155 CJ
Yeah Im not buyng that bullshit
>>35464228
I mean, I've never truly maxed out on those lifts, but thats the most ive front squatted from the rack.
I got stuck in the hole for the 155, and bounced back out., jerk was easy.
>>35464253
yeah, then probably you can do more 155 at 160 is infeasibel
>>35464200
is he really better when he only has 3 international medals? Could he have out-totalled ilya now if he still competed? Maybe. But isn't being a weightlifter about winning competitions? Ensuring that you're able to compete is also the responsibility of an athlete.
Anyone have any papers on German programming or German weightlifting in general? Soviets had ton of stuff. What do the Germans have?
Specifically interested in the concept of Rahmenorientierung...
I've never caught a clean low before.
It's always power. if it's too heavy, I just cant get under.
>>35464697
i know jack shit about german weightlifting
max lang has a youtube channel though
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk9BijsQy-armZbzjowGwOw/videos
>>35462358
Just think 'Big chest', that cue always helped me stay over.
It also looks like you're cutting your pull short and rushing to get under it, that's why you're losing it infront.
>>35465064
Shit, I jumped when she started running out of nowhere.
>>35465064
Shes pretty fast
>>35465304
> tattoo
Fucking cookie cutter
>>35464562
It's a lot easier to be successful in competition when your only responsibility is training and recovering and you don't have to worry and spend time about putting a roof over your head and covering expenses for lifting like travelling...
>>35465452
I don't like tattoos either but Mattie's tattoo is about her dead daddy.
>>35465469
>lET ME GET INK ON MY BODY TO HONOUR A DEAD PERSON
I'll never understand this.
>>35465304
>slut tattoo
hahahahaha what a cookie cutter
>>35465469
fuck her dead dad. he would be embarrassed to know his daughter is a fucking whore who posts herself stretching her ass half naked on camera.
>>35465503
That's perfectly okay.
>>35465503
Do you think the "i'll oversimplify something in a mocking manner to make it look stupid" Is a valid criticism? You can do that with literally anything. There's nothing wrong with someone getting a tat of something/one meaningful to them
>>35465452
>>35465540
I'll never understand why 4chan gets so triggered by tattoos. It's practically a meme at this point
>>35465503
>>35465540
Any more proof needed that people who complain about Mattie the most are autistic?
>>35465557
"i'll oversimplify something" I'm not oversimplifying shit lmao, get out of here with your fucking buzzwords. That's literally what she did, she got a tattoo on her back for her dead father.
>>35465579
STOP
FUCKING
POSTING
THE
WHORE
MODS
>>35465590
Nothing wrong with wanting to remember someone
>>35465590
>IM GOING TO POST ON AN ANONYMOUS ANIME IMAGE BOARD ALONE IN MY BEDROOM ON A PICTURE OF A GIRL IVE NEVER MET IN REAL LIFE AND MAKE FUN OF HER TATTOOS HEHEHEH
that's literally what you did lmao buzzword meme
>>35465590
>"oversimplify" is a buzzword
you're literally using buzzword as a buzzword
how fucking moronic are you?
>>35465596
Sure. But I still stick to old fashioned methods instead of getting a tattoo on my body. But hey, if it's for her dad then ok I guess, I just don't get it.
>have knee issue which stops me from jerking
>pretty sure it's not gonna go away unless I stop lifting completely
FUCK
>>35465654
whats your problem? I injured my patella last week... it was bad. now its better but it feels so tight and weird now, like it's not the same.
>>35465678
Not sure, I get a sharp, shooting pain in my left knee when I bend my leg at around 90° or so. It's way worse going down than coming up, and I've had it go out from under me during squats before. I tried jerking on it today and felt it get noticeably worse with a single rep, even with light weight. Pissing me off because I just gave it about 10 days off and it's still pretty bad.
>>35465591
>>35465654
specifically, what's the issue?
>>35465728
looks like a man. fuck off nigger.
>>35465725
thats a patella injury. we have the same thing. woohooo
>>35465736
Shit. Do you think it's something I should go to a doctor for? What are you doing to recover from it?
>>35461737
needs more food.
>>35465773
I'm wearing a Mueller patella tendinitis support band. I ice 20 minutes a day and take nice hot baths.
The seering pain is pretty much gone... But now when I go into bottom position my right knee is weak, and it feels really tight and uncomfortable. I got the injury last week doing front squats. It's been about 7 days now.
If you continue to lift with it, it will definitely turn into patella tendonitis and you will be fucked for 6 months +.
>>35461290
I have the same problem, coach told me that it was caused by not bringing my knees forward during the 2ND pull, causing a leaning backwards and the bar and I to one back.
>>35465736
Mattie will continue to be posted as long as she is relevant to Weightlifting.
>>35465836
kill yourself. Mattie isn't relevant to weightlifting.
>>35465839
How is someone who's broken several national records in two weight categories not relevant to the sport?
>>35465852
>implying this board cares about national records
>implying anyone cares about national records
It's like coming first place in a bodybuilding competition when nobody shows up, or being Jason Genova.
>>35465874
>being the best in a country of over 300 million people in your respective category is not impressive
It's ok. It's easy to make fun of successful lifters when all you do is come home after you do a few snatches with bodyweight then jerk off chinese people
>>35465874
No it's not. There are plenty of other Americans competing with each other in the sport.
>>35465894
>Said 300million populated country doesn't even have any spots available for the olympics because they suck so bad
keep blowing your loads to mattie mate.
>>35465908
I'm tired of mattie posting too. It's just funny to see losers like you who will never accomplish anything in the sport or out talking shit on anyone who isn't some drugged up chink hand selected since age 12 to lift all day :)
>>35465795
Dammit, that's not what I wanted to hear. Looks like I'll be doing a lot of upper body stuff over the next couple months. At least I have an excuse to take hot baths now
>>35465917
Clarence is a chink too.. you mad?
>>35465931
1. Filipinos aren't chinks
2. He's not even full filipino
3. I have no problem with chinese people or lifters, it's just amusing to me to see people who spend all their time shitposting sucking chinese or russian cock :)
>>35465917
>hand selected
there are people who legit believe that there are guys who go around kidnapping kids for a fucking sport? chinese weightlifters dont train young because they were picked for it, but it's because they come from poor backgrounds and weightlifting or being a rice farmer are their only choices.
>>35465947
>it's just amusing to me to see people who spend all their time shitposting sucking chinese or russian cock :)
I don't get this mentality either. They shit on national lifters better than themselves all the time. It's weird.
>>35466003
kek ameritards are buttmad that they suck at the sport.
>>35466003
It's probably frustration and sadness niggaerrree aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhh gon kill me a nigger! Allahu akbar bismillah fuck youuuuuuuuuu
>>35463938
Mate you're all over the place, loopy af and inconsistent, surely you can see that? Watch Tatiana doing her no contract snatches, see how she moves with the bar to send it upwards?
You need to hit the correct positions in the full snatch. Your high pull mostly looks okay but your snatch is very different, you must do the same movement in the snatch.
No bully, but you have a lot to lern
>>35466076
>>35466023
>>35466003
>>35465960
>>35465947
>>35465931
>>35465917
>>35465908
>>35465905
>>35465894
>>35465874
>>35465852
>>35465839
>>35465836
Come on guys, let's not turn this into /fit/
>>35465021
thanks, but i'm not really interested. he just posts simple tips. i want advanced technical texts.
>>35466159
What do you think is the main problem with those posts?
>>35460967
I didn't know Drake was into oly nowadays.
>>35466181
np, i doubt you'll find much beyond watching their training sessions, let us know if you find anything though
>>35466228
Drake the kinda nigga who washes his weightlifting shoes
>>35465596
would she forget if not for the tattoo?
>>35461067
>>35461034
>>35461019
stop posting mattie
How do i into webm
>>35466293
Drake the kinda nigga to apologise to the bar after dropping it
>>35466445
Drake the kinda nigga who give his coach a christmas present each year
>>35466439
Use webm for retards, they changed the name on github to easy webm creator or something like that to appease the sjws, or just use ffmpeg like every non retarded person
>>35466405
Do you wear the same shirt every time you lift or just when you're making webms?
>>35462505
8 hours later, but if you are a 9uk in nike shoes and have a foot on the wider side, a 9uk romaleos should be fine, average size feet id say half size down to account for being slightly wider and you want it to be snug
>>35466900
I wear only a few outfits to training
>We will be alive when Ilya Ilyin gets popped for juicing
it politic why live
when i try to stretch my ankles i feel a pain in the area i've circled
its a lot worse with my right foot compared to my left, but if i stretch the left i can get a similar feeling
has anyone else experienced this/ have any ideas
Guys I recently decided to switch to wl completely. Help. I am still learning how to do the lifts. How do I learn to extend fully? I think I cut it short in the clean, which leads me to have to pull the bar up to my midsection and catch and ride it down. I am only using 50kg.
Tall cleans? More practice? This is frustrating af but I am determined
>>35466286
yeah, will do.
>>35467340
What the fuck, does she have a public Snapchat?
>>35468180
most people you add on snapchat you can see their story even if they dont add you back
>>35467803
I have had ATFL and CFL injuries in my right ankle, starting to mobilise that ankle was quite painful. It's likely just ligaments being ligaments, do what you can, it takes a long time to increase ankle mobility
>>35467804
Common beginner mistake is cutting extension and just falling gently under the bar.
You must extend fully and actively pull yourself under. Do tall hang cleans with a reasonable weight, same for snatches. Learn the third pull.
>>35468286
Well does anyone know her snap?
>>35468180
she posts them on her twitter. im sure if you scroll through her twitter youll find her snap id or just google it
>>35466132
I surely see, but I just know how to make it better
do supers usually add in jumping into their training like some lighter lifters do? and are there videos of that?
How does the Olympic Weightlifting community view Ilya Ilyin?
Is he seen as GOAT or just an ok lifter?
>>35470564
World champion in 3 weight categories, world records in all those categories, olympic gold twice... yeah, he's ok.
>>35470564
He's the face of this sport currently. Golf had tiger woods, the NBA had lebron James and weightlifting has ilya ilyin.
>>35470606
When will Ilya release more LG content?
>>35470629
lmao that suit
>>35470606
yet jebron lames cant win a ship on his own
>>35470652
>>35470682
Holy fuck, Ilya has been airbrushed so hard it looks like his face is superimposed onto the image even on the thumbnail. Damn LG have you ever heard of subtlety?
What am I supposed to do if the bar is literally on my pubic bone if I am gripping collar to collar with arms relaxed? The bar is supposed to to be a little bit higher with loose arms so that it doesn't collide with my pubic bone.
Killing myself isn't an option.
>>35465785
Will do. I'm a skinny faggot at just a little below 75kg. It takes me over 3000kcal a day to gain weight and I'm already kinda skinnyfat.
I think I really need more protein too.
I posted before from a shitty angle. This is probably just as shitty. But here: vid (dot) me (slash) frkZ
Really light weight and I feel like I'd actually do better with some more, but I really want to have good technique before I seriously start to train the classic lifts. I've done 60kg before (still weak as fuck, I know...).
Just FYI, before I was doing the first pull with a more horizontal back (as I thought that was more appropriate..) but after reading a catalyst athletics article linked her I went with vertical arms, more vertical back, seems to be creating some issues around the knees. And FYI, this is pretty much exactly how I set up when I deadlift. I have vertical arms and I get very "squatty". I find this feels more natural, let's me pull the biggest weights and I have less potential for back rounding. The only realy difference is that in a Deadlift I have the bar over the midfoot. In the vid I have the bar over the "balls" of my feet
>>35471761
>>35471795
for a beginner a i dont see any glaring problems, try to stay with jumping up rather than jumping back with the bar
>>35471795
thank you
>>35471925
Thx mate, I usually don't jump back and my cleans usually don't look so weird. I think the new starting position screwed me up.
Would you reccomend that I continue to increase the weights I'm using? I at times find going too light results in technique thwt doesnt look as good as with heavier weights. I dunno. Also, should I not be a pussy and just start doing light snatches, and would you reccomend I do full cleans since I'm truely interested in doing Oly lifting, at least some day?
how do you do the whole hip thrust thing without nailing your dick?
just positioning?
>>35472020
i hit the bar with my hip crease and my balls still hurt at every snatch.
i'll probably end up being sterile, who cares right?
>>35472020
>>35472038
just stand up really fast
>>35471984
yes do snatches
yes do full cleans
yes up weight
>>35472426
i dont hit it with my balls and my extension in good, but my balls just hurt
>>35472490
thanks mate
Before at the beginning of each workout I've just been working up to a max single in the power clean. Should I just stick to that approach, or should I just work relatively submax (still for singles) but still heavy enough that it requires some work? Should I just try to use a little bit more weight each workout, and not just go for max?
Also, I guess I should do jerks too (and do clean + Jerk whenever I do cleans?) Realize I obviously train in a commercial gym. So I shouldn't really be dropping weights, nor am I comfortable doing so. But I'll do the oly lifts anyway.
Also, the reason I liked doing singles is because doing triples on power cleans fucking gases me, and next thing I know I'm all sweaty and tired and when I go to squats or anything I'm just done...
What would you reccomend? Just some doubles for snatches and singles for clean and jerk at the beginning of each workout at a moderate weight?
>>35472834
whats you routine right now, just like a simple brosplit or something?
and yeah just start working up to heavy singles, where the weight feels heavy but your form isnt degrading.
doing jerks in a commercial gym is a bit iffy, cause you cant really save it if something goes wrong and you will end up dropping it.
>>35472869
Yeah. I considered maybe putting the safeties up high on a rack and doing them in the rack or some shit.
I'm doing 3x a week fullbody training. I may end up doing upper/lower though (still 3x a week) at some point.
>>35472941
doing them in a rack like the and dropping it onto the rack bars will ruin the barbell, you coulld do light jerks and just rerack onto shoulders, just heavy jerks will have to wait.
if yo are interested in WL you should start looking into finding a gym near you that has the right equipment.
>>35473006
Aren't snatches the same way too though?
My gym has rubber coated plates and the floors are padded. But people will be like wtf I drop em.
My YMCA does have a weightifting hall and I can join if I pay. I am making excuses sorta, I feel as if I'm too weak to go in. I feel like maybe once I can squat at least 100 kilo maybe I could. I also want to get my own setup for weightlifting but my current house is too small.
Should I just maybe start doing push presses instead?
>>35473056
GO THERE NOW FUCK
the sooner you start training the sooner you get good stats. jesus you think all these world class athletes only started once they had an arbitrary number for their BS?
>>35473056
If you have a good gym available go for it
Also there is a difference between rubber coated plates and bumper plates, bumper plates jump when you drop them and don't get damaged, while regular rubber coated plates usually chip.
>>35461067
What is this exercise called?
>>35473142
power snatch
>>35473130
Yeah I know. The floor is padded though and assholes at my gym pretty much drop their deadlifts.
>>35473115
but im a weak skinny faggot and it costs money
also
>implying I have any chance or interest in becoming a world class athlete
>>35473159
I'm pretty sure it's a full snatch
>>35473174
breh
i was a skinny fag when i started WL, the sooner you start the better.
>inb4 still am, its getting better
how much is it?
>>35473142
Overhead power clean
>>35473176
The distinction is pretty much arbitrary anyway. It doesn't matter. A power snatch will qualify as a snatch in competition, so a power snatch is really a snatch.
?????
>try to find weightlifting gyms near me
>all crossfit gyms
fuck
seriously any non commercial gym by me is a crossfit gym or some weird sports training gym
>>35473191
I have no idea.
Like $50 a month maybe.. More?
Plus I can only go in 3x a week.
Plus it may be hard to schedule going there when I can see a coach and shit (I'd be fine training myself though desu if I'd have access to the room).
I'm not exactly sure how it works. Some old powerlifter guy in my commercial gym told me I should go there if I want to get into the sport since he saw me doing cleans once. But the room is nice and it has a keypad lock on the door (I dunno if they give it to me and then I can use the place anytime?)
I've also been lifting a year FYI. Kinda sad the progress I made. I maybe have a hormonal issue (I'm not using it as an excuse though, I'm gonna get a blood test)
>>35473159
>>35473176
No it is a half power snatch.
>mattiecakesssss Saturday morning barely power power snatch PRs? Okayyyyyyy @robhill77 you suck #Iwintoday #powerish #theycount #2whitelights #dontargueeither #justletithappen #ihatepowers #uglyaf
>>35473241
Well if they let you workout by yourself and don't force you to do crossfit stuff it's alright. Also sports training gyms are usually good.
>>35473250
>$50
my gym is like 150/month (fuck xfit for being overpriced af)
ask people, lrn who the coach is.
are you eating enough/sleeping enough, take a hard look at your recovery methods and be honest with yourself.
>>35473250
>I've also been lifting a year FYI. Kinda sad the progress I made. I maybe have a hormonal issue (I'm not using it as an excuse though, I'm gonna get a blood test)
What are your current lifts?
>>35473280
Well in my country the highest end gyms are maybe 150 to 200 bucks(they are on par with those 1000 dollar gyms in the USA pretty much) so 50 bucks for gym is a lot in some places.
>>35473341
where u from senpai?
>>35473280
I sleep fine. 8 hours a night minimum. Usually 9 or 10.
E.g. when I have school I usually go to bed at like 9:00PM and wake up maybe 6:30 AM.
Eating? I eat okay-ish. Issue is probably not enough protein. But I drink a lot of milk, eat egg almost daily, usually have meat at least with dinner.
maybe its like $80 or $100 or something then. I don't actually know.
I also think if you join you're part of the team or something? I just don't know.
Part of the reason I made no gains is i trained like shit in the beginning. I think I'm progressing decently now though.
>>35473280
>my gym is like 150/month
Do you even use anything other than the oly equipment there?
At least try to take advantage of the qt girls.
>>35473279
lol crossfit gyms are $150 minimum around me and all the sports gyms are also crossfit gyms.
It's like in the past 2 years every non commercial gym became a crossfit gym.
the red asics weightlifting shoes are available on the averagebroz site COP NOW
>>35473282
approximate 1 rep maxes are something like (not in kilos, sorry):
170lb Olympic back squat (full depth)
Maybe 135lb front squat (probably lower.. I dont front squat that much and yeah.. I know, I know. I'll get on it, I like front squats more too actually)
125lb bench press
Maybe a 90-95lb overhead press
225lb (100kg, hey, I know that in kilos!) Deadlift
And i have power cleaned 60 kg (135lbs) on a good day before
>>35473358
kek, nice breh
and yeah i use the bars /rings for pull ups/dips and the DB/GHRs
and she's like late 20s breh im only 19 :'(
>>35473350
yeah training improperly can have a big effect as well
>>35473382
>77kg Back squat
>60kg Front squat
>56kg Bench
>100kg DL
>43kg OHP
>60kg Power Clean
@75kg BW
divide by 2.2 for kg
>>35473348
Macedonia(FYROM), our GDP is 10 billion dollars, and our per capita income is 4500 dollars or something so everything is cheap compared to the USA. Also I don't even do oly lifting i just do power cleans and clean and jerks once or twice a week.
But I might see about going to a crossfit gym and taking wling more seriously, but it's probably group classes or some bullshit like that and my gm is pretty comfy.
>>35473452
>>35473382
LMAO your stats are nearly the same as mine
>77kg Back squat
Mine is maybe 80 kg
>60kg Front squat
mine is 55 kg
>56kg Bench
70 kg bench, chest is bretty stronk
>100kg DL
85 kg
>43kg OHP
40 kg
>60kg Power Clean
My clean is like 55 kg
>>35473452
I know how to convert pounds to kilos.
I just didn't want to, hehe.
>>35473412
Age is no problem. Get your The Press strong, and then The Press her. Every girl enjoys getting The Press.
>>35473520
If he stopped being a twink that would be enough.
On a serious note do you do any kind of bodybuilding work Oly boi?
