Is Greg O' Gallagher from Kinobody the natty king?
>>35451479
how do i into cannonball delts desu
>>35451479
This is my goal body tbqh.
His body standards are pic related in case you wanna try.
>>35451479
The natty Kanadian Kinobody King
>>35451903
How is benching your bodyweight 5 times good like?
>>35452021
It's incline bench, which is harder. It's a good initial landmark of gainz
hes pushing the genetic limits for bench press and Anaerobic cardio
>>35451479
Big daddy Greg is king of all nattys. Easily the Best fitness youtuber
>them shoulders
>natty
probably manlet as well
>>35451479
>Is Greg O' Gallagher from Kinobody the natty king?
he's 5'10, 169 lbs
affmi of 22...
>>35452111
What this means senpai
>>35451583
popchips sparkling water and green&blacks desu *__*v
>>35452021
Motherfucker if you can bench your bodyweight on incline for 5 reps you are bound to have some chest, it is that simple.
>>35452157
that means he's a small lightweight man therefore his physique is irrelevant
>>35452157
Jesus Christ, you're back again dude? You or the other guy constantly saying Senpai or desu made some stupid fucking thread taking about his routine and wanting to suck him off in every post. This shits retarded, guys on gear and still tiny, either go out and physically be dominated by him, or get off of /fit/ with these stupid threads. You love the guy, we get it
>>35452229
He is not small dude. you have body dysmorphia and autismo
>>35452266
S-sorry I don't have a social life
>>35452229
You haven't realized how /fit/ has deformed your physical standards right?
I can't recommend greg and kinobody enough. After fucking around doing the usual pump training that most people do, this past summer I discovered his channel and his advice changed everything for me. In my first 4 months using his general approach I went from inclining 135X5 to 205X3, dipping 45X5 to 125X4, and chinning 25X5 to 100X4!! The most miraculous 4 months of my life. I decided to buy his greek god program and he isn't really giving away any secrets that aren't on his youtube channel. If you comb through all his videos, esp the older ones that are more relevant its all the info you'll ever need.
>>35452266
its a filter you mouth breather.
>>35452349
It's a filter that needs to be used and typed in every single post ya fucking retard? "Senpai, how do I look him? Desu Senpai I want to fuck kino guy, desu Senpai he's so natty senpai, please..please"
>>35452347
And your lower body did what?
>>35452347
FUCKING NORMIES REEEEE
BURNNNNN
REEEEEE
>>35452389
S m h T b h F a m
>>35451479
>>35452347
thanks greg
>>35451479
>no lower body
>>35451903
>no standards for lower body
>>35452277
>>35452338
maybe you guy are manlets and have a different perspective, but while I may not have his super low bf%, I'm 6'0 212lbs with a very respectable bf%. a 5'10. 170lbs man is nothing to me. I can guarantee you he would look dyel next to me if we both wore t-shirts.
>>35452347
Personally I'm just waiting to lower my bf from 19 to 12 with my current upper lower split to transition to his greek god program because currently I'm unable to do more than 5 chin ups at a time. Other than that it sounds pretty goat, his mega workout has everything I could ask for.
>>35452347
big fan and all greg, but why are you on /fit/?
>>35452519
>6'0 212lbs with a very respectable bf%
baka 25-30% bro
>very respectable
>>35452519
post your body
>>35452519
post a pic
>>35452519
>6'0
>212lbs
>very respectable bf
pic related is 190 with respecable bf, if you are 212 you are either on roids or fat as fuck because I don't believe for a second you look better than Henry Cavill was for superman.
If Greg is 175 then I should just aim for 180-185 tops, anything else is retarded for me.
>>35452389
testing what the filter is
senpai
bro
bruh
brah
>>35452674
first day here?
>>35452402
part of the whole kinobody mindset is who gives a shit about legs. most people start working out to look sexy and get girls, most girls don't find any of these 500lb squatters to be attractive.
For me personally, I have a bad back so have avoided most lower body training since forever. I finally found bulgarian split squats and have been going hard on them, recently do 200lbs X 5.
>>35452520
his mega workout is meant for people that have already got a good level of strength on his greek god program, and its adding extra volume for hypertrophy. I would still focus on the lower volume stuff if you are still building up strength. When I first started doing it, I eased into the lower volume. I coudn't believe that so many people could be wrong, I would do maybe 4 working sets 4 times a week and it responded. Went down to just 3 sets of 2 exercises 2 times a week and strength exploded like never before. Doesn't really make sense.
2.5 months on his routine.
>>35452560
>>35452561
>>35452573
I won't post a pic because I have nothing to win against you faggots, you'll simply accuse me of roiding. Just remember we're not all dyels here, some of us have been lifting for close to 10 years now
>>35452593
Just because you google'd Henry Cavill's weight doesn't mean he is 190lbs on that picture. Actors gain or lose weight all the time, Just look at Christian Bale
>>35451583
>delts
>natty
>>35452906
Too bad all that lifting hasn't helped you not be an egotistical faggot.
>>35452906
>I won't post a pic because I have nothing to win against you faggots
haha
>>35451479
yes, 100000%. anyone who thinks he is not natty is a fucking retard
>b-but jason blaha said you can't have functioning hormones below 8% bodyfat!
that autistic nigger cannot be trusted when it comes to nutritional science.
with sufficient SFA intake, and carb intake, you can maintain hormone function.
they key is to eat much less protein than one would expect (the reasoning is more protein = less protein breakdown = higher muscle preservation, so you can't have too much protein, and that is where so many natties fuck up - insufficient fats and carbs become a REAALLY big problem at low bodyfat, and you need much less protein to maintain anabolism than you would think)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg97GY2EkDA
www.anabolicmen.com/carbohydrates-testosterone/
http://www.anabolicmen.com/dietary-fat-and-testosterone/
http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/
depending on your bodyfat% you only need .37g to .74g of protein per pound of bodyweight.
anything else you hear (Even the .82g figure) has been rounded up above the highest amount of protein ever known to be anabolized (not just talking synthesis here, but also the reduction of protein breakdown, which is the crucial factor for most people at low bodyfat)
also at 168 and 6.6% bodyfat is well under the natty limit for his height (176lb at 5.5% bodyfat)
at least according to
https://symmetricstrength.com/calculator/ideal_bodyweight
there is zero evidence he is not natty, and he gave pretty good reasons why he doesn't roid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfm5oM9rHF0
plus, for how little striations or anything for his ridiculously low bodyfat (he posted the DEXA)... i don't see any visual cues for suspicion. lots of pre-steroid bodybuilders had boulder-shoulders
>>35451583
good genetics are key.
but outside of that
https://kinobody.com/workouts-and-exercises/how-to-get-big-shoulders-without-steroids/
>>35452906
Kek you played yourself, Bale is 6'0 and for Batman he was 190, confirmed. I also think you don't look nearly as good as Bale.
>>35453123
nice b8
>>35453145
name a claim that you think is wrong, and i will carefully and patiently elaborate on precisely how and why you are fucktarded.
>>35453145
That video where he says why he says steroid use is retarded seems pretty legit, mang.
>>35452884
Means fuck all if there's no previous picture dickbreath
>>35453156
This. Everything you said is sound how could someone be so dumb
>>35453156
Pretty sure that was bait.
>>35453167
>thinks you need more protein than that
i cited a source, you plebeian faggot
its not just some shit-tier article.
it's a well cited and put together article that includes every relevant scientific publishing on protein anabolism, and comprehends the studies, and correctly elaborates on the meaning behind them
> Tarnopolsky et al. (1988) found that only 0.37g/lb was required to maintain positive nitrogen balance in elite bodybuilders (over 5 years of experience, possible previous use of androgens) over a 10 day period. 0.45g/lb was sufficient to maintain lean body mass in bodybuilders over a 2 week period. The authors suggested that 0.55g/lb was sufficient for bodybuilders.
>Lemon et al. (1992) found no differences in muscle mass or strength gains in novice bodybuilders consuming either 0.61g/lb or 1.19g/lb over a 4 week period
>Based on nitrogen balance data, the authors recommended 0.75g/lb.
> Tarnopolsky et al. (1992) observed no differences in whole body protein synthesis or indexes of lean body mass in strength athletes consuming either 0.64g/lb or 1.10g/lb over a 2 week period.
> Walberg et al. (1988) found that 0.73g/lb was sufficient to maintain positive nitrogen balance in cutting weightlifters over a 7 day time period.
for the record, greg recommends .8g, which is well above what anyone would need.
but this jason blaha-tier understanding of nutrition needs to end.
you eating too much protein is WHY you can't stay lean.
you get rid of your endogenous stores of energy, and don't replace them exogenously, you have a fucking problem.
if your body can't source carbohydrates from its reserves of fats, because its reserves are depleted, you need to eat more carbs.
if your body is deficient in fats, you need to eat more fats.
not that much protein is required to maintain positive nitrogen balance.
>>35453223
>>35451479
>People on /fit/ still worship Zyzz instead of Greg
why?
>>35453246
yes, i am retarded for correctly citing the data of Tarnopolsky et al. (1988), Tarnopolsky et al. (1992), Walberg et al. (1988), Lemon et al. (1992)
what a fucking idiot I am to believe in scientific literature instead of broscience memes "1g a pound, bro"
>>35453246
>Can't respond to the argument because he got BTFO by science
>better just post memes
Man, you offer quite a compelling argument. Do you have writers on-call to assist you with the formulation of your rebuttals?
>>35451479
>those delts
>natty
i know this is troll but still come on
>>35453223
> 2 week long study
into the trash it goes
>>35453344
all of the longer-term studies show the exact same nitrogen balance data.
i bet you disregarded the WHO's findings because "muh correlation"
do you even have a degree in a scientific field?
how dare you pretend to have even a modicum of scientific scrutiny, when you clearly lack the level of education required to properly scrutinize?
this is literally no different than jason blaha disregarding the WHO's findings on N-nitroso compounds, despite his complete lack of anything pharmacological (or even scientific).
you do not know more than every scientist ever, sorry bud.
>>35452519
>>35452906
>I can guarantee you he would look dyel next to me if we both wore t-shirts.
>I won't post a pic
fucking LMAO
>>35453271
greg is not dead
yet......
>>35453292
>citing the data
>4chan
>>35453344
it should also be noted that the more elite the weightlifter, the less protein is required to maintain anabolism
but on the whole spectrum, from novice to olympian, NOBODY requires as much as .8g/lb a day.
so to eat that much is to err on the side of caution (read: overnutrition).
>>35453223
>>35453292
>>35453310
>getting this mad
>>35453382
>we are on 4chan silly, proper debates aren't allowed
thanks fag.
i will let
>>>/sci/ know that they have to leave this website.
>>35453373
this is literally what happens when you hit the natty limit
50% of the salty crabs thing you are DYEL
the other 50% are SURE you are on roids.
you won't have made it until /fit/ simultaneously thinks you are on gear and DYEL
>>35453374
zyzz was popular as fuck on this board before he died
>>35452519
>I can guarantee you he would look dyel next to me if we both wore t-shirts.
>>35453398
only two of those posts are mine, and i fail to see how elaborating on protein intake requirements and nitrogen balance data makes me "mad", but whatever helps you sleep at night, i suppose
but you get pic related, because your post made me smile
>>35453382
>>35453420
post a time stamped pic faggot
you reek of dyelness
>let's argue about what other people eat
>and link studies from bing searches
>>35452884
post previous pic
Sorry guys, you will need to take steroids to achieve this kind of physique
>>35453581
lmao he doesn't even look like he lifts in clothes
>>35453223
Sorry but those claims sound fucking autistic and you are probably retarded and skinny fat. Those nerds you referred don't have any real experience in the gym. Just try eating your girly portion of protein and attempt to train like you have nuts, dude. I hope you are joking.
>>35453724
>b-but muh .3g of protein is enough!
>l-lmao y-you're all dyels
>no leg training cuz thick legs and hips is unaesthetic
It's literally a routine for people who want to look strong but not be good at anything involving strength.
He also seems to believe doing squats and deadlifts once a week will make you t Rex mode.
>>35453135
>that pic
What is muscle memory
>>35453765
>people who want to look strong
>this pic >>35453581
haha kinotrash
>>35453827
post pic of yourself
HIGHLY doubt you look better than him m8, he's near natty limit
daily reminder that this is what your 5'10 170lbs weakling piece of shit looks like with clothes on
>mfw people actually look up to Greg... you're either manlets or dyels with less than 2 years lifting experience
Look at that 5'10 170lbs BEHEMOTH of muscles! Can't believe he wasn't casted as Juggernaut in X-men 3 !
>>35453924
>>35453974
>I want big fat strong body
>kino is skinny and looks good
>too small to give me advice me permabulk
>mfw you think you're the target audience
>>35453895
>post pic of yourself
I can guarantee you he would look dyel next to me if we both wore t-shirts.
>>35452884
>>35453171
>>35453517
this is before pic 4 months ago
>>35453823
what does muscle memory has to do with this at all eh? You are just a delusional fatty, the end.
>>35454061
I guarantee that you would look like a fatass next to Greg, shirt or not.
>>35454094
Nigga, last time you posted this, it was 6 months. Did you not get enough attention with 6 months?
>>35454108
mate, this was 6 months ago
anyone have images of all his programs?
>>35453924
daily remainder that clothes cover your naked skin and you cannot show your gains unless you use tryhard as fuck cloth like yoga pants.
>what is a workout pump
>what is good lighting
>what is meticulously putting only your very best pictures online
godamn you Greg cocksuckers are a joke, a fucking joke.
Is there ANYONE here that supports Greg and has been lifting for 3 years or more? I highly doubt it
Please, if you support Greg, post a pic and tell us for how many years you've been lifting
>>35454153
that is true, when you're a 5'10 170lbs weakling piece of shit
>>35454154
Dude you can watch his videos, even when he isn't pumped he looks better than 90% of /fit/.
>>35454185
>better than 90% of /fit/.
95% of fit doesn't even lift...
>>35452021
Meant god like
>>35454181
>counter argument is ad hominem
nice, maybe one day you can look as good as Greg anon, diet isn't that hard.
>>35454185
He makes money off his body, I god damn hope he looks better than 90% of /fit/
I don't look up to a Dennys breakfast if it's better than 90% of what people can make
>>35454212
You don't understand.
He is 5'10 170lbs.
I repeat, he is 5 feet 10 inches tall, and weights 170 pounds.
Where's the cutoff here?
At which size do you stop "mirin" on someone's physique? Would you mire on a pro bodybuilder 5'6 manlet? I wouldn't, not a chance in hell. To me, Greg is a small, tiny man. I understand that you may look up to him if you're some random 5'9 160lbs dude that's been lifting for a few months, but to me, a 6'1 dude that's been lifting for 8 years, Greg is nothing. So he's aesthetic for his size? Good for him! But please, stop putting this asshole on a pedestral. Train 2 hours 6 times a week, watch your diet and you will achieve the same results.
>>35454289
>implying weight matters over aesthetics
>implying being an obese perma bulker is better than being in top shape for your constitution, whatever that is.
I'm 6'0 and I admire him because he looks GOOD. It doesn't even matter how much he weights, nor his height, which isn't that short at 5'10. He looks more proportionated than almost every bodybuilder and 9/10 people in general. Besides men and women, both would prefer Greg instead of some roid monster.
People in fit like him because surprise, they also wanna look good, yeah they sometimes wanna be strong as well, but thats not the norm, not everybody has body dismorphia and feels the need to be as huge as possible. The trick is doing what you can with the hand you were dealt with.
>>35452593
Cavill and Greg would weight a lot more if they actually had some mass in their legs
not that it matters
>>35454395
so let me guess, you're a 6'0 dude that's been lifting for a few months? post your body pic please
>>35454423
>disregarding argument because people think different
so let me guess, you're a 6'1 dude that's been permabulking for a couple of years? post your body pic please
>>35454457
sure, here you go.
PS: I do natty competitions for shit n giggles
>>35454475
Great, I can use google as well, even so, greg still looks better, just personal opinion.
>>35454489
My name is Alexandre Villeneuve, google me all you want.
PS: 6'0 184lbs on stage
>>35453123
>>35453223
I want to believe this.
Does this mean that unless you can't attain your daily protein intake through balanced meals, supplements are unnecessary?
That's good news to poorfag students like me because supplements are fucking expensive and that you don't need ridiculous amounts of protein to gain lbm and strength.
>>35454512
Great m8 I can search names as well.
Also thats besides the point, I just explained to you why people like Greg, if you still need to bash him because there is people bigger than him, then there is no point going on. just remember that size =/= everything.
>>35454557
Considering we spend the majority of our life wearing clothes, size actually kinda matters bro :^)
>>35454592
Sure m8, whatever makes you sleep well at night.
>>35454475
>Alexandre Villeneuve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQZhayKfdDg
Lifting will never cure that strain of ugly...
>greg pls go
>greg pls go
>greg pls go
>5'10"
more like the manlet king
>>35454602
so are we discussing facial or body aesthetics ITT, you tell me
>>35454630
You lose on both accounts to Greg.
Greg has a much more aesthetic body.
Both of you are ugly, Greg is less ugly.
>>35454475
404 aesthetics(beauty) not found
>>35454655
post your body pic bro, I'm curious to see what the man judging me and Greg looks like
He Incline Benches 260 for reps and I'm pretty sure his flat bench is hovering around the 300 mark so I don't know why people are calling him weak.
>>35454700
Nothing to prove to a ugly person who doesn't understand the meaning of beauty.
Beauty is bestowed upon you pathetic humans, not earned through toil.
>>35454713
hmm oh boy I don't know...
perhaps it's because he is 5'10 and 170lbs??
>>35454713
>flat bench is hovering around the 300
>weak
he's been lifting since he was 15...
>>35454767
300lbs for reps at 5'10 170lbs is not weak, regardless of time training.
>>35454767
>13 years lifting
additionally, considering he skips squats and diddy, that's sub-/fit/ tier in terms of progress
>>35454774
>300lbs at 170lbs is not weak
maybe he'll place 3rd in some shitter town bench-only competition in middle of no where
>reps
what, like x2?
>>35454749
Are you fucking retarded? 315lbs Bench at 170lbs for 6 reps is far more impressive then some fat powerlifter faggot who is double the weight
>>35454791
Where did he say he was a powerlifter?
Ad hominem more, it's not obvious at all.
>>35454802
>Ad hominem more
>>35454839
Later ugly.
>>35454854
later greg
Routine
>>35454655
what the fuck do you look like?
Greg may not be the best, but hes handsome and lean as fuck with size.
Everyone is just mad jealous.
>>35454395
Pls go GREG.
>>35451903
>Good press
>Good chins
>Great curls
Squats/deads suck tho
>>35453581
How can someone be so insecure ? u are small greg stop delusioning yourself. I think you try to compare yourself with zyzz but you will never have his fullness natty. Zyzz dwarfs you even in pre roids mode. KEK
>>35454958
>no rows
>no hamstrings
I don't mind watching his videos but i would never do any of his routines or follow any of his advice.
>>35455661
>ho no-mo
I don't know why any of you fags throw autistic fits over Greg. He advocates strength training instead of useless bodybuilder splits and looks fairly good for someone who doesn't roid. His diet plan is also solid and doesn't bank on some fad diet that is completely useless
Really, no idea why some of you are this autistic.
Which one of Gregs routines are the best? i have all of them, but i personally cant criticise them.
>>35451479
even if you discount leg day, as does he then the fucking answer is still no
>>35455856
Personally I found the mega workouts to be more complete, something like >>35452520 while exchanging each session squat for deadlift.
>>35454289
>tfw 5'9 160lbs lifting for years
>>35452593
>Those pathetic forearms
>That gyno
Loving every laugh.
>>35454094
>>35454127
Fuck, there goes /nofap
>>35453724
>nitrogen balance data is dependent on time spent in gym
they were doing studies on ELITE weightlifters, including olympians.
they also did studies on dyels who never lifted.
in either case, low amounts of protein were needed for anabolism.
the more experienced the weightlifter, the less protein intake was required for nitrogen balance.
after a certain point eating more protein does nothing.
if eating .6g and 1g per pound has the SAME result. if you have never tried the former, how do you know the latter is "mandatory"?
>>35453765
so you can OHP 1.2x your own bodyweight for 5 reps?
>>35454289
>I repeat, he is 5 feet 10 inches tall, and weights 170 pounds.
we call that "the natty limit"
>>35454546
it is absolutely 100% not up for debate.
if you eat .8g/lb of protein, you are eating more than anyone has ever needed to maintain anabolism.
everything after that is more than superfluous.
anyone who disagrees is an illiterate mongoloid spewing shit-tier broscience.
>>35452021
Agreed, I know people who dont even lift that can do this.. fukcing faggots
>>35459245
on incline? are you retarded?
>>35453924
>>35453974
>>35454181
>>35454419
>5'10"
>obese strong literal since child
>start dieting, sick of being fat
>on my way to 100lbs club
>lift/diet/cardio consistently for 8 months
> 8in wist, 11.5in ankles
>20in calves, 30in quads coming in very nicely
>179lbs lean mass under flab
I will never know what it is like to be that small, THANK FUCKING JULIUS CHRIST.
>>35460443
One more
>>35451479
He's a ki-nobody lmao
>>35459129
But that's just basic physiology, m8. You must consider the growth hormone levels are higher when your protein intake is low. Protein and growth hormone don't work the same as carbs-insuline.
An African kid in the bridge of death has higher growth hormone levels than you.
You seem to sort of know what you're talking about, so I don't have to say what growth hormone does.
Anyways... If you take more protein than what you need, unless you have liver failure or gout issues, the excess of aminoacids will turn into carbs---> energy. So Who gives a fuck?
>>35453123
>also at 168 and 6.6% bodyfat is well under the natty limit for his height (176lb at 5.5% bodyfat)
>at least according to
No legs so he is well over 25 ffmi for upper body
>>35460663
>So Who gives a fuck?
your hormones do, if you are sub 8% bodyfat.
not eating enough carbs and fats as a natty, your hormones will crash.
and .8g/lb is already excessive.
so you can eat an excessive amount of protein, but after than you need SFAs, MUFAs and lots of carbs to maintain proper hormone function.
also, growth hormone levels are higher during intermittent fasting.
still don't see the sequitur between GH and anything i said, but ok.
>>35460782
he does pistol squats with 100lb added.
how the fuck is that no-legs?
just because he isn't t-rex mode?
these fuckers are perfectly proportional and god-like.
also, you really think he could pack on more than 10lb worth of muscle onto those legs, and still lose 1% bodyfat?
you are fucking retarded
>>35460458
Your legs look like those of an obese women, no offense. If you like the volume good for you m8.
>>35455805
People are jelly because he is at the top of the natty limit without those "crucial" exercises people claim you need like deadlifts or squats. Also because they have some inferiority complex when they cannot praise someone who isn't 300 pounds and 7'0 even when he looks better than they will ever be.
>>35455856
Like the other anon said the mega training ones are pretty good, made SOLID gains.
Gonna do the shoudler focused superhero bulking, i really feel like those are the most lacking
>>35454958
Is this ABxABxx?
>>35463208
No. it's AxBxAxx
>>35463254
Why is back only once per week?
>>35463285
Nigga its the typical classic:
AxBxAxx BxAxBxx
>>35463302
I see, thanks.
>>35463254
i prefer his U/L/U split
https://kinobody.com/workouts-and-exercises/henry-cavill-workout/
i believe it is AxBxCxx but i just do AxBxCx
>>35461977
oh he is just too good. he's the guy who's gonna make weight lifting sexy again and not just the "mum powerlifter" meme that persisted in 2014 and 2015.
greg really has it right
>>35464616
husbando-tier, tbhfam
>>35463413
Congrats, you're doing your own workout, not the one that works
>>35465818
>my own workout
>copypasta'd from kinobody
...wut?
it is basically the same routine with slightly more volume (which i find i am perfectly able to recuperate from), and more emphasis on lats and shoulder, which are my two focus areas
>>35465818
>>35465842
oh, because i don't take an extra rest day?
shit is already a split, and like i say, i haven't stalled or had any problems with recuperation.
if i start to stall, obviously i would rest the recommended amount.
