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>Getting married and having kids in your 20's

Goodbye gains.
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>>35448053

Only retards do this. There is no reason at all to ever get married before you are 25. Unless you're a mudslime girl, but then you're ruined anyway.
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>>35448077
>Before you are 25

LOL. Try 35 my nigga. You're literally crazy if you get married before you're 30.
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>>35448053
well, that's what happens when your prioritize having a gf and having sex over actually developing yourself as a person; the natural progression is gf, sex, marriage, 'she wants kids', parenthood. Then your whole life is about raising other human beings, everything else has to take a back seat to that. Make up your mind NOW what's really important to you.
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never fucking reply contribute thread
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>>35448089

not for girls dude. You don't wanna risk shitty eggs.
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>>35448120
Yeah obviously, if you're dating a girl whose >27 you're retarded.
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PSA if you get married before 30 you're some retarded immature fuck and you'll regret it later 100% guaranteed period
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>>35448089
>35
Lol try 45 my nigga. Women reach sexual peak mid 30's.
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Mom was 25 and dad was 32.

Did he do it right?
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enjoy your autistic children
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>>35448199
>Women reach sexual peak mid 30's.

Sure they do, roastie.
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>>35448202
Nah. He was probably dating her when he was still young, he fucked up. Start looking for a serious relationship when you're 29-31. See where it goes, if it goes well, marry her in a couple of years.

>>35448234
It depends on the grill.
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>tfw already 26
>Basically no sexual or relationship experience
>People are telling me I need to get married soon and have kids unless I want retarded kids.
>Surrounded by roasties and single moms now
>Want to kill myself because I missed out on the golden years, never had the chance to have fun.
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>>35448053


>Marriage

In reality when you say 'I do', it translates to 'I'm Done'
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>>35448285

That's bullshit mang. Two generations back women were having kids from 18 to 45 and there were no more retards than there are now. My grandad had 11 siblings ffs and that was not unusual. Age alone doesn't cause autists, living like a unhealthy moron might.
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>>35448053
>getting married
>being a cuck

Pick both
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who else /childfree/ for life.

too many hobbies and places I want to visit.
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>>35448391
me too
no hobbies and just staying in my room but no one would want my kids anyway
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>>35448391
I think this might be me. I'm already 25 and I'm only graduating uni this year. I want to live in Germany for a bit, then I want to travel to asia for a bit, then I want to work on a career and maybe on my own start-up. I just can't imagine when and where I would be able to raise kids. I mean it would be great if I met some girl who would be fine on raising the kids on her own with minimal support from me, but that's obviously not going to happen.

Kind of sad because I'm an only child, so my family line dies with me, I guess.
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late 20's here
sexual market is open for me, women 20+ to 40+
girls in their 30s are fertile and hi test as fuck
man i love women
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>>35448446
Don't despair, everyone's family line dies eventually. In 100 trillion years there won't be a single star left and everything will be dead, what does it matter if we kick the genetic can down the road a couple more times? If you don't feel like having kids, don't. Just enjoy life.
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>>35448516
>girls in their 30s are fertile and hi test as fuck

Translation: women in their 30's are out of shape as fuck, covered in cellulite and stretchmarks.
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I have epilepsy and my brain is overly sensitive to excitement, anger and stress. Having kids or being legally bonded to someone sounds like a death wish IMO.
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>>35448559
You've Never fucked 30 year old have you? They're dirty and it's amazing.

>tfw when she yells for you to cum in her ass and let it shrink out. Then tells you how cute it feels when you cum in her ass
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>>35448053

25 yr old kv so its not looking like ill have kids anytime soon.
Too scared/intimidated to get a hooker to get rid of my v-card.
Guess I should just wait 5 more years for my wizard powers.
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> Dated qt for 2 years. Only serious relationship i have had ever.
> Leaves me for some faggot.
> Find out later she is getting married to this faggot.
> TFW she is 19 and married. Her excuse was because they wanted to go to the military together.
This cant possible end well for them right brehs?
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>>35448391
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>>35448690
Military? Bitter divorce in near future, or she'll becomes a lazy, unemployed leech because the military literally pays for a married couple's house and food.
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>>35448053
I'm 20 and with a girl that I'd really think about committing with, but I'm not going to be an idiot and marry anytime soon at all.

Just taking things day by day really, as long as I'm happy in this relationship I'm going to keep it going. And I'm really happy with my relationship right now.
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>>35448690
dodged a fucking bullet there lad
this shots 4 U
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>>35448690
>hurr only serious relationship my life is over
>she's 19
so basically you're 20 or even less, wooo big fucking deal you child
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>>35448690
100% chance of divorce, you are better off m8
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>>35448690
>faggot
>military
nope
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>>35448089
This.

>>35448120
>women over 30
>desirable
Only if they're famous

>>35448199
Yeah right lol
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>>35448053

marriage is for girls

a man literally gets nothing good out of the deal, then you get fucked with a divorce.
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>>35448948
I don't know how people on 4chan aren't redpilled on western marriages yet. People will tell you this exact same thing on literally any board, you don't even have to go to the redpill
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>>35448089
>35

Wanting to marry a torn pussy after years of partying and numerous boyfriends. No wonder you westerners are cucks and we're taking over your lands
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>25 y/o kissless virgin
>Girl approaches me at a bar when I'm with my friends
>She's slightly intoxicated and says she say me from the other side of the bar and thought I looked cute, she's never done this before but she'd really like to get to know me
>Autism overloard "hahaha" as I glance at my buddy who's looking at me like I'm a maniac
>"Sorry, I'm married."
>Turn away from her, don't even look at her direction anymore
>Panicking like crazy
>I think she's standing behind me the entire time, I turn around, don't see her anywhere in the bar
>Friend told me she got visibly upset, almost started crying and left the bar in a hurry

Jesus christ
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>>35448972

it isnt even redpill logic

it's common sense.
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>>35448972
this desu senpai desu senpai
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>>35448980
What are you talking about? As a man you can definitely get married to a girl in hear early to late 20's when you're 35.
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>>35448999
wtf man thats some twisted ass motherfucking shit righ there.
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>>35448999
it's time you get your shit together seriously, i mean it's definitely not too late
ever considered suicide?
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>>35449023

why get married at all?

whats in it for you other than losing half your shit?
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>>35448999
Did you regret it? If not nothing then nothing to be guilty about
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>>35448999
man, this made me really sad
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>>35448999
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>>35448999
Jesus. That was like divine intervention given to you and you fucked it up.
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>>35449074
This. Was she even hot? There's nothing wrong with telling her your gay/married if you're uninterested.
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>>35449074
>>35449110

I don't know, she was an average girl, she wasn't insanely hot or insanely cute, she wasn't fat, she wasn't anything outstanding, but she looked like a nice girl, I felt horrible, I have absolutely no idea why I said I was married.
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>>35449141

if you arent interested this is just like a girl saying she isnt single.

so what?
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>>35448688
they come at 40 retotato
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>ITT: reasons why kebab will be the majority in 30 years
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>>35449154
I'm a 25 year old kissless virgin bro. My chances of ever "banging hot sluts" have gone through the window a long time ago. I haven't even had a conversation with a woman in ages.
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>>35448999
i dont get what the big dea l is. you werent interested in her so u kindly let her off.

but u never know, she couldve been the one to make you feel special during your first time and then she couldve grown on you

first girl i attempted to have (was naked in bed together) literally laughed at my face after my dinigiling went soft before penetration. fucking bich...

general rule of thumb tho, club and bar girls are tip top bad news. never expect a long and loving relationship with one
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>>35448053
23 and in a serious relationship. she wants to get married in the next 3 years, have kids in the next 7. what do, friends?
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>>35449141
Nothing to worry about then, good on you for having standards.
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>>35449197
Jump ship. She's putting too much emphasis/importance on having a marriage/kids and not really looking for a "partner" in life, which is what marriage is supposed to be. She just wants to tick things in her "objectives" list instead of actually growing as a person. Basically she doesn't care who she marries or whose kids she's raising, to her it's an arbitrary choice that she just wants to do.
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>>35449197
If you're considering the opinions of an anonymous weight lifting board, then obviously the state of your relationship isn't in any condition for that much of a commitment.
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>>35449177
you're looking at it the wrong way

you have no chance to bang chicks because you do what you did
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>>35449177

no they havent

there are people 30/40 who can do it, so what?
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>>35449221
This.
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>>35449197
It's 21st century, so my plan is

1. Find a girl that isn't crazy

2. Freeze some sperm and eggs just in case

3. Work our asses off in our late 20s & early 30s for the monetary gains

4. Secure a future where our passive income is enough to sustain our household and to make sure we only work if we want to

5. Get a baby through natural process or a surrogate mother(hence point 2)

I think it's very irresponsible to bring a human into this world if you do not have the means to give it an adequate lifestyle and good opportunities to succeed.
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>>35449197
kids by 30 is a good plan

only retards wait until they're 35 to have kids
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>>35449197
BAIL
you have 3 more years of fun until that though
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>>35449176
>just as planned
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>>35448101
>being a beta male

When I have kids they're going to be my slaves.
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>>35449197
Don't listen to these fucking faggots. Thats a good plan. Having kids after 30 is fucking stupid. If you arent married before 30 something is wrong dude. Marry her.
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>>35449384
>Being this fucking retarded

why would you ever get married in your 20's and have kids before you're 30? That's literally asking to struggle and be poor and have lot of regrets for waisting your youth raising kids.

Even if he does decide to do it before 30, this is definitely NOT the girl he should be doing it with. A girl should be saying "I want to find someone to be my partner in life" not "I want to get married at 24, have kids at 27.5 and [insert other arbitrary goals here]"
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Goddamn, why are you faggots so pessimistic? There's nothing I'd love more than a wife and family.
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>>35449293

girl detected

or cuck
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>>35449430
Because you're naive as fuck. Do you realize how much work and how much money raising a family requires? What if your wife just randomly decides one day to start screaming 99% of the time and being a gigantic bitch because the kid is stressing her out?
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>>35448532
>not having a >200 IQ and having great great great grandchildren who will stop that from ever happening
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>>35449430
Real life is not like a The Little House in the Praire episode.
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>>35449445
>Do you realize how much work and how much money raising a family requires?

So you're a beta who can't into responsibility. Got'cha.
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>>35448516
>falling for the high test meme

fucking embarrassing.
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>>35449382
They'll end up here just like you
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>>35449494
and youre a faggot who can't form his own opinion. u see everyoone else with a family and seemingly happy so u want to go for it. go jump in lake and stay there ufaggot
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>>35449444
no, I just don't want autistic children

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25776271
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24408971
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22984615

>>35449485
but it's exactly how your red pill mentor told you it is, right?
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>>35448053
Dad strength & old man strength are superior to all other types of strength.
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>>35449531
Men can have healthy kids at age 16 and 61. Only women have a "fertility period"

The answer is to have children with a woman younger than you (just like we have done historically)
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>>35449494
>>35449494
>>35449494
Is that what your single mom girlfriend told you? That you're being an "alpha" because you're being "responsible"? kek.
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>>35449531
>Not waiting until genetic engineering to design perfect 6'2" 150 IQ high-test Aryan babies
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>>35449521
>and youre a faggot who can't form his own opinion

Tell me more about all the redpillers/mgtow who are living satisficed lives and not bitching online in their mother's basement.
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>>35449645
You're probably 20< if you honestly think having kids in your 20's is a good idea.
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>>35449457
>stopping entropy from within the system itself

top kek
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>>35449494
Good goy, gotta "man up" and create more tax payers or the system will collapse!
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>>35449670
>implying jews aren't advocating the decline of white births

You're better than this, /pol/.
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>>35448666
Good look finding a woman who is worth keeping that doesn't already have kids and is divorced. The ones that might be worth your time are all in a relationship already. The single ones left all have defects one way or another.
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>>35449494
If you're white: at least you're helping out the declining birth rate

If you're not white: holy shit anon you are very unaware. All that "be a man! Raise some kids, doesn't matter if they're yours!" talk is feminist bullshit
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>>35448735
Yeah man, there is no rush, just be patient and don't let yourself be forced by your gf if you aren't ready yet. The longer you are together before you marry the more likely you will actually stay together forever
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>>35449071
Some people actually get a girlfriend that contributes a significant amount of money to the household.
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>>35448780
found the muhreen
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>>35449814
>Raise some kids, doesn't matter if they're yours!

Don't project, lad. Where did I argue that you should be a cuckold?
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>>35449884
You're the one talking about responsibility when it comes to raising a family. You sound like a male feminist
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>>35449935
If I were a feminist, I wouldn't consider it my responsibility as a man to provide for my family as that's a outdated, sexist social-construct.
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>>35448077
I've been with the same girl since I was 17 (I'm 23 now)
I think 6 years is long enough to date before getting married.
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I mean, everybody should make choices for themselves. But I married my high school sweetheart at 21. We were both hungry skellies. We went to college together, lots of good memories of napping in between classes, going out with our friends, always having a +1.

We are still together 10 years later. No kids, and both got /fit/. We both work. We train together and help each other hit den macros.

Just be careful young readers of /fit/. Make choices for yourself, not for the people on this board.
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>>35450003
>implying either of you are done growing up

top kek, you millennials always crack me up with how you think you know everything
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>>35449975
except it's not outdated.
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>>35450058
Wise words my friend
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>>35448391
I'm on the waiting list for a vasectomy, but I don't know if I'll get it. I had to argue with my dr just for the referral; apparently 23 is "too young"
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>>35450058

same situation here breh, well said as it's difficult to take this board in context sometimes
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>>35450003

just wait till she finds another guy to upgrade anon

>modern women

>loyalty

lol
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>getting married at all
>not finding a girl who isn't a retard and understands a long term committed relationship doesn't need to be justified by legal bullshit that could fuck you over in the future

wew lad
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My girlfriend started talking about having children and i said how am i going to have time to go to the gym and she says "well when we have kids you won't be going to the gym any more"
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>>35450003
I was with my gf for 8 years, one day she asks to take a break and three weeks later she ended our realtionship

There is no determinate amount of time between dating and marriage and you can never truly tell how the future is going to turn out. Marriage should be cautiously avoided until you accidentally get her pregnant. Then its marriage or suicide, your choice
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>>35450237
yer fucked kid
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>>35450237
You should've said
"Oh, I get it! We're gonna make a home gym!"
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>>35450058
>Being indepedent and making your own choices to fulfill yourself emotionally instead of blindly following the advice of strangers on a Bahraini cheese forum.

wew lad

what the fuck are you doing?
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>>35450237
Was this said sarcastically, or are women legit this fucking dumb?
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>>35450250
Funniest shit I've read in 2016
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>>35450270
she doesn't sound dumb so much as commanding and irrational

anons gotta bail or get snipped and say he shoots blanks, then it will end up being this>>35449221 to see if she's actually loyal to him or just wants children
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>>35450237
29 years old, I had a girlfriend when I was younger that I was with for a very long time.

We were both in our early 20's and she made similar comments to what your gf said.

>I can't wait to get older so I can stop caring what I look like

when we were 25, she openly said to her younger sister who was trying to get into shape

>When you're my age, you'll understand that it doesn't really matter, you just have to live for yourself.

I kept bothering me until one day we were having sex and I just kept noticing how much weight she's gained and I just dumped her.

We're both 29 now, I checked her facebook - she's chubby af, dating some loser, she's not going to look any better, ever. If you find a cute chubby girl, keep in mind that that's literally the best they're ever going to look, because looks deteriorate over time.

Right now I'm in the best shape of my life, I'm making more money than i've ever made and I'm dating a 23 y/o qt nutritionist who loves working out and has been dancing since she was 12.

Don't let other people's mediocrity pull you don't. Don't allow people like that into your life. You'll be much happier.
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>>35448690
Anon, you will have a lolocaust at their situation within 2 years tops
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>>35450237
JUST
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>>35450250
Similar thing happened to me,

Women will drop you without hesitation if they even think they can get something remotely better. Even if they believe the relationship only has a fraction of a percentage of working out.

They're are completely illogical and go through life one dopamine rush to the next.
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>>35450358
What's odd is after she left me, I traveled the country, saw old friends, lost over 100lbs and got a great job I loved. She's gained weight and holds shit cashier jobs in our hometown and dating the local std manwhore metalhead

I don't consider that 'better', maybe she does, but I definitely agree they are illogical and irrational. But shit happens, no reason to dwell upon it. Now I just live for myself and do whatever I wish, girls will flirt with me but unless they make the first real move I just keep acting oblivious

Feels good man
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>>35450386
>lost 100lbs

you have no one to blame but yourself for her leaving you.

Why did you need for her to leave you to lose weight and care about your appearance?
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>>35450269
Yeah making your own choices at 21 based on your rich lifetime experience instead of listening to people around you, so amazing
Typical american special snowflake syndrome
I hope he doesn't act surprise when he and his sweet heart who he even goes to the gym with (goes to show how close they are, incredible) get a divorce in less than 10 years time
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>>35450401
so that when she dumps him he can act like he's so much better without her
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>>35450401
Uhh yeah I didn't say I blamed anyone for her leaving me man

We were together for so long that we both got fat and complacent and didn't care because we had each other. I've been chubby my whole life anyway so I just sort of figured I was going to end up fatter, especially with a long term gf that didn't give half a shit how we looked. But I took control of myself after the breakup, I didn't need her to leave me for that to happen but it was definitely the catalyst and a wake up call

Don't care if that sounds pathetic that a girl made me change, but I did it for myself and I learned discipline instead of relying on motivation to keep my body how I want it.
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>>35450444
Nah that wasn't it, I do nothing to rub it in her face and I haven't had contact with her in over 6 months.

I don't know why people think that it's strictly to feel like I 'won', but I won't be able to change any minds here so it doesn't matter
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>>35450270
>Was this said sarcastically, or are women legit this fucking dumb?
No she was 100% serious. She expects me to fully give up my life to look after a crying screaming shit bag even though i barely do anything else. I go to the gym go to work and come home. It's literally one and a half hours of my day and she expects me to give that up.
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Why risk marriage if 50% of them end up in divorce??
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>>35448077
>There is no reason at all to ever get married

Should have stopped there
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what do men honestly get out of marriage?

there is such a high risk of losing half your assets. so what do you get?

im serious
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>>35450561
I like being a responsible adult, I like taking my wife's son out to baseball games and him calling me "dad".
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>>35450594

>wifes son
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>>35450237
>doesn't use small children as dumbbells
>these dumbbells get heavier by themselves as they get older to keep pace with gains

Not going to make it.
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>>35450237
your best bet after having children would be to get a basic home gym setup. then once your kids are old enough do physical activities with them. football, hockey, rock climbing etc
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>>35450594
u got cucked m8
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>>35450237

tell her "well when you have kids you'll be busy changing diapers, so shut the fuck up."
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>>35449071
This is why you only marry chicks with more shit than you
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>>35448690
Hahaha she's going to fail at life
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>>35450702

but they still clean up in a divorce. even if you have very little.
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>>35448666
>and let it shrink out.

I don't know what the fuck shrinking it out is but it sounds kinda hot.
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>>35448053
>2016
>tying yourself down to a woman
>tying yourself to a contract that will let that woman take half your shit whenever she wants
>spending tens of thousands of dollars to raise and pay for a little pooping sack of shit that will drain all your money and life and adding another worthless cunt to the already overpopulated earth

nice meme
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>this whole thread
Nice try, JIDF.
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>>35448120

> girls
> /fit/
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mfw when I'm 25 and have been in a relationship for 6 years, but have no desire to get married.

Her parents probably think it's fucked up.

Oh well, I'm happy.
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>>35450058
>had a high school sweetheart
>thinks he is relatable for people on this website
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>>35451007
What about when your spouse makes more than you?

>not living that cushy neet life as the stay at home dog sitter
>not being the "bad boy" that she loves to come home to and get dominated by
>not shitposting and working out for a living.
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>>35449494
>it takes a real man to step up to the plate and take the scraps another man left behind
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>>35450409

Yeah what an idiot. Instead he should listen to the advice given by all the wise and experienced people here.
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>>35448053
>getting married
>ever

Fucking end your lives already.
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>>35448391
>>35448445
>>35448446
>>35450141

white people
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> first relationship for 10 months
> gf is crazy in love with me
> her and her family go out of their way to help me and make me happy
> wants a traditional marriage, family and kids
> she still needs to progress and develop as a person to meet my standards

Going to be interesting when the SMV overlaps and mine overtakes hers.
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>>35451846
redpill as fuck, my nigga
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>>35450594
>falling for this pasta
>>35450625
>>35450660
happy new year everybody!
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Im married. Wife is a fitness club manager. Getting gains now like mever else because of her good cooking and our constant barbeques. No kids though fuck that. I'm 22 next month.
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>>35451846

this nigga knows. Go get em, slick
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>There are faggots in this thread that are actively going out of their way to not pass on their genes
>that do not want a family
> meanwhile kebabs are marrying 5 women and putting 4 kids in each of them

You fucking permavirgins are the reason lslam is winning
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>>35454373
My genes are shit and my family is shit. I can make gains and that's it otherwise I am fairly useless. Being a tradesman in this day and age is one step above being a NEET. Only white collar workers are worth while. I don't contribute enough to society to have earned the privilege of children.
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>>35454308
>married
>21 years old
Fuck man I feel old and I'm not even 30 yet.
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>>35448053
OP is right,

I got married at 35 and i've never been happier taking care of my wifes kids
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>tfw you realise all the good ones are taken early and if you're old enough to post on this board you're too late
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>>35450328
Any advice to a 24 year old like me?
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>>35448053
>29
>committed relationship, wants marriage and kids
>gym together
>we don't like the same music
>she watches Friends

I dunno if I can do it bros. I don't know that I can marry her if she keeps fucking watching this show over and over and over again. It's a nasty fucking habit. How am I supposed to commit my entire life to someone who can't fuck with me muscally.
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>>35454373
1. (For Europe) Remove kebab
2. (For USA) restrict welfare and watch negroes implode- only the smart will survive
3. Remove feminism

I just saved western civilization
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>>35454623
How is music the deal breaker and not friends?
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>>35454668
It's the both. Either one singly I could ignore as an odious personal habit, but not anything worth tripping over.

But holy fuck it's both and she wants kids in like 18 months here and I just...

I fucking hate Friends.
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Married young. A decade later and still married. My wife is hot and we have a lot of sex. We have children. We make time for each other so we can enjoy our individual hobbies, which means I still work out all the time. So let's see, I have a hot wife who is dtf, makes my food, does the laundry, cleans the house, rears our children, and contributes money for bills.Yea, I ruined my life by getting married young.
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>>35454751
>My wife is hot and we have a lot of sex
lol sure she is
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>>35448053
>having autismo kids with your old degraded sperm
Paternal age matters more than people realize.
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>friend got married earlier this year
>didn't find out till after the wedding she has a bunch of credit card debt
>made a joint account with her before he knew

Not a great start
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>>35454850
this
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>>35449270
Mah nigga
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I have shit-tier genes, no way am I passing on these genes. My beautiful cousins can pass the family name instead.
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>>35455013
I have great physical genes and intelligence seems to run in our family, but my issue is mental instability. Depression, agoraphobia, schizophrenia and autism are rampant on my father's side. I am lucky to get away with just depression and occasional suicide ideation. I would not like to pass this on to anyone.
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>>35455112
Fuck man, are you me? My family has great physical health and above-average intelligence, but we're all fucked with some mental health issues. I got off lucky with just depression. I talked to some doctors and the conclusion was that I have a very bad chance of having kids that aren't literal autists. I decided a long time ago that It would be unfair to inflict that life on a child. So I won't have any. I like kids and I work with them every day, but I'll never have any of my own.
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Im 22, been with GF for 3 years and im planning on proposing in a year or two. I've had dozens of partners before her, and i got no happiness at all (only anxiety) from sleeping around having one nighters, but if thats your thing go for it.

Now im in a loving relationship, i get to wake up to the smell of my girls hair everyday. Have someone to help me get through the day, someone who says i love you, someone to share memories and experiences with. Shes a also my gymbro and my best friend and the sex is amazing.
This board is very anti-girl, im pretty sure it's because most of you are social reject-redpillers who never got the attention you think you deserve and now you take out your anger on women to try to get even.

Children on the other hand is a no go, i've already told her im not having kids until we've traveled the world, have our career and our own place.
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>>35448053
>Getting married ever
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>>35456043
This is how cucks actually delude themself
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>Used to fap into socks like I saw in american movies
>Realise i'm fapping too much and socks aren't big enough
>Start fapping into my shirts
>Use one white shirt for over a year
>Never know how to dispose of them because at the time I was 17 and never cleaned my room
>Leave this crusty yellow stained T-shirt in my bedside draw for over year
>Spray it with deodorant after every use
>One day manage to bring a girl home after party and my family were out
>The stars have aligned
>I go to trim my stubble so i can eat her out without giving her a rash
>Head back into the room
>The T-shirt is on the bed and the draw is open
>"What is this anon? It's disgusting"
>Panic and try to think of something that sounds better than "A year and a half of collective mouldy jizz on a 3 pack T-shirt"
>Erm, you know when you have bad morning breath, I spit into that T-shirt to get rid of the taste
>To this day I've never had sex and I'm now 23

I need to move town
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>>35450386
>the local std manwhore metalhead

As the local std manwhore metlhead, I sympathize with you. I've seen too many women wreck something good for a chance to be with a total fuckup such as myself.

When will these bitches learn.
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>Marriage
>21st Century

Enjoy getting cucked, losing half your shit, losing your kids and paying child support for 18 years.

Only idiots get married these days, 50% of marriages end in divorce and 80% of the time the female is the one who initiates it.

My nigga, that's like putting half your savings on black for roullete, and what do you get? some companionship? you can get that WITHOUT getting married.
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>>35448999
>"are you calling me a faggot"
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30 is the cutoff for women
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>>35457266

KEK

You're never getting married anon. I hope you got clothes for christmas
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>>35450270
Well it is not that she is not right. Usually you lack the time between work, childs, wife to go training.
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>>35457266
>I need to move town
yes.
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>>35448911
>emmy
Mah nigga.
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>>35448202
My dad was 10 yrs older than my mom when they met. She was 18, he was 28. Had me 2 years later.
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>>35454876
This is why you don't get married. The small benefits don't nearly make up for the huge risk of getting divorced and all of the financial turmoil that comes with it.
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>>35448999

Literally get therapy.
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>>35458758
No this is why you get to fucking know the person you marry.
Live with them for a while and study their true habits.
Let them get comfortable around you so you can see what they're really like.
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>>35448666
I have and 19 y/o pussy is unequivocally superior to 30+ pussy.
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>>35449429
Leaving aside all the back end issues of marriage a la divorce alimony child support
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>getting married
fucking muricans
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>>35451606
>she finds someone slightly more exciting
>tfw sudden homelessness
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>>35456043
Could you please sound like less of a faggot meme
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>>35448999
Fucking shoot yourself now. Save the world the headache of having to deal with you.
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>>35449176
Nailed it. They don't have stupid first-world hangups like us retards... fucking dhimmis...
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>>35454373
Bingo.... but the idiots itt will never put that together... fuck-tards.
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>>35454637
Yup... pretty much this easy. No joke.
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>>35457266
No... you just need to stop being a slob.
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>>35450250
shit i'd leave your ass too if i waited 8 years
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>>35457266
>>Never know how to dispose of them because at the time I was 17 and never cleaned my room
You fucking wash it dumbass. Why wouldn't you wash the shirt?
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>>35451606
none of those require marriage tho
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>>35454623
>>35454689
>breaking up over the show friends

top kek. Most people don't watch all the same shows/movies as their partners. Women like dumb shit
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>>35454850
source?
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>>35459124
>Live with them for a while and study their true habits.
or you could be an honorable guy and meet her parents and they'll give you the skinny
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>>35450660
the proper definition of a cuck is someone UNKNOWINGLY raising another male's offspring.
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>>35459994
Unless they're smart.
I'm not exactly poor, anon.
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>>35448053
Eh, ain't for me personally. I'm 24 and my life is nowhere near where I'm gonna need it to be to acquire wife and kids.

That being said I can see the attraction; having kids at 25 means you're only 45 when they hit university age. Plenty left in the tank to train them and your grandkids in your image before you pop the old clogs.
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>>35448077
>>35448089
I despise the modern male.

I sort of am one, but at least I'm self-loathing
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>>35461816
Aye cause self-loathing makes it better. Muppet.
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>>35448120

>marrying an old hag

lol @ this guy
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>>35461803
protip: your life will never be where you want it to be, you are a loser
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>>35461858
Oh god it's a fucking SNP voter that explains everything
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>>35461888
Statistically that's about 6/10 Scots right now; so not a bad assumption.

Although I tend to vote Green myself.
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>>35461983
I was like you once, then I realised I was wrong.

Anyway, self-loathing demonstrates that you want to change, that you've noticed there's a problem. I bet you hated your body and/or weakness before you started lifting.
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>>35462033
Well that's true. I'd like to believe it's possible to make the journey without the self-loathing but perhaps it's just part of the process.
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>>35448391
Not for life, but its going to be a while. Also no getting married until ive got all my shit sorted out, because I dont want someone taking half of what I earn
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>Having kids at all

here's a helpful vid from the /fit/ king on the issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fStQISdfSII
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>>35461876
Nice attitude. Bet that gets you everywhere.
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>22/m
>dating gf for nearly 4 years
>she always dreamed of being a young mum like her mum
>shes finishes honours in october
>I'm only one year into my degree and planned to do postgrad/doctorate

How fucked am I familia?
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>>35462157
Just make sure she doesnt leg lock you and youre good
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40 oldfag checking in. Marriage is like a squad STX - dry/blank/live
>1st marriage at 26. The divorce took longer than the marriage lasted, no kids
>2nd marriage at 35, 3 years of hell, no kids
>3rd marriage at 40. 1st kid on the way, wife is the best, couldn't be happier
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>>35462103
I'd love to insult you and call you a shitty human being, but really you're just adapting to the shit environment you've been put into. Where a man doesn't eat to live, but lives to eat. Where giant plastic tits and 10 inch dicks are just one click away on your computer screen, pounding a thousand different pussies and assholes.

You see, women evolved their habits to prolong the survival of the species. They need men to survive - correction - they USED to need men to survive. Now food production is automated. Feminism didn't exist when MEN were the primary source of food. Only after they became completely superfluous. You thought feminists were so enlightened and educated!

Men's only function on Earth, besides pumping semen into a hole, is to provide for the women and children. And that function was been made obsolete by technology. You will endlessly try to become better, but it will never be enough, because women want for nothing. So, to conclude, you are a loser.
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>>35454373
That's why we are smart enough to genocide them
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>marry girl from traditional family in europe
>loves to cook
>literally have an entire days worth of healthy, nutritious food whatever I want prepared whenever I want
>put some of her money together with mine to put together a nice home gym

women are only gains goblins if you let them, you are the male, you are in control. If you are not you are the one at fault, not them. Its all fun and games in your 20s and 30s, but by the time you're in your 40s and 50s, especially onwards being childless is one thing and even then, but being single is really lonely and fulfilling.
source: worked at an aged care home of 300 people
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>>35448690
Where are you from? Know someone who married a around 19yo girl and is going to the military with her
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>>35462381

grats on finding a unicorn
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i wasted my youth being fat and having an underbite. now i'm 29, fit, had jaw surgery and i look better than i ever have, but i feel terrible because most girls my age are married and people keep saying stuff like >30 year old women are ugly and worthless. however i still feel like i'm 22 because i'm actually getting more attention now than i did back then. so i want to date around and have fun and i don't want to get married for like 5 years :\ feels bad man
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>>35462157
Like really*really*really fucked

Sit down and listen to my story which starts similar to yours
>17 yo
>meet *this* girl
>everyfuckingthing is perfect, we watch same movies, we like same food, we listen to same music
>18yo, college time
>move in together, why the hell not
>now quick time forward
>23 yo
>stopped going to the gym, because pizza+movies are better
>stopped going to the parties because "anon... parties are boring, let's have sex whole night"
>stopped having anything except her and university
>got fat
>got depression
>suicide thoughts grew into my mind
>after all these years she felt like in a marriage, so fucking confident and lazy...
>I was cleaning the house (my house), I was cooking because she got this fucking stupid free intern (and I had half time job as programmer)
>everytime I tried to get things equal she would put a ban on sex
But hell, that's not a bad story
>tried to talk with her about things, I know it's stupid but I loved her
>first time couldn't finish thing because she started crying
>second time she turned her back on me and said she was 'exhausted from work'
>third time she listened to every word I said, told she understands it and will change... after two months she did not change any fucking thing
>told her we need to separate because we can't find common language anymore
>all she said was "ok"
>so ok indeed, after all these years nearly every friend is mutual

And now anon you can leave all things above but read this. Read how fucked up women are
>she pretends she doesn't know my friends
>she fucked random guy and told me just for sake of telling (whilst still being in "we're cool" period)
>I've been brokenfuckinghearted
>stopped eating, lost 8kg
>returned to the gym, lost another 7kg
>after her intern she got fired because it's fucking corporation
>she's put on weight due to "woohoo let's party grrls"
>I'm dead internally

tl;dr
NEVER TRUST WOMAN
NEVER TREAT WOMAN AS EQUAL
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>>35462499
Good to know I'm not the only one.
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>>35454637
>Being
>This
>Retarded

You realize that welfare is a pacifier, right? That if black people are having babies, gang-banging, mooching off the government, then they're not going to move out of the slums? That they're not going to go out of their way to fuck things up for middle class people?

Think about the mobility of rich people vs the middle class. There are middle class people who've never left the country, or their state, but they 'travel'. People from the inner city see road trips as something unachievable as round-trips through Europe for the average american. Middle class cars seem as far away as private jets. Inner city people can walk everywhere they 'need' to go, maybe take the bus if they 'need' to go somewhere faraway, the way middle class people will take a plane.

Do you really think things are bad? If these people had the education, the IQ, the life experience to realize what was happening to them, they'd riot. Not the meme riots where they fuck up their own shit and cause the police grief. No, they'd be looting and starting shit in suburban areas. But that seems almost unthinkable to people in a certain tax bracket. Someone pulling a gun on you in a nice grocery store would be like someone robbing a museum gift shop, or holding up a designer fashion boutique. It doesn't happen, because the people who do that don't get that far.

Imagine if all of them left at once, because they had no reason to stay. Your shit would be fucked up in the next 24 hours, believe me. It'd become a national crisis.
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>>35462499
B-breh...
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>>35462499
oh gosh...
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>>35448690
lol,that was a blessing in disguise bro. it wont last m8. just be the bigger person, sit back and watch the shit-show.

>source: mil

i've seen it happen and it hilarious
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>>35450003
I was with the same girl for 5 years since 18, we were a happy couple, I was genuinly thinking about marrying her.

Then, a good 4 years in she became extremely depressed, took medication, became either a zombie or a suicidal mess. After about a year of this I broke up with her because it sucked the life out of me as well.

Anything can happen in life man. I hope you two can stay happy together for the rest of your life, I really do. But know that something completely out of your reach might come along and just fuck with things.
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>>35462895
easy solution

we build a wall
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>>35457266
Oh god my sides
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>>35463814

If you're even a little serious, and had no comprehension of what I said you have a nigger-tier IQ. Or you're a troll, which means you have a nigger-tier IQ. You'd end up on the wrong side of that wall anyway.
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>>35448053

Married at 21, kid at 22, 26 now. I wont lie and say it's easy.

Life is fucking hard with or without responsibility, it's just hard in different ways.

I'd rather be married and have kids than have only myself to worry about though.
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