Daily reminder you can become big and strong without having to perform heavy squats, deadlifts, Bench, etc
Daily reminder that people have destroyed their shoulders, knees, back, etc when perform heavy sets
Daily reminder that all of this can pretty much be avoided if you stick with higher rep sets
Cheers
>>35400798
>higher rep sets
>>35400798
Big? Sure. Strong? Deffinetly not
>>35400798
This. The 'big 3' are completely unnecessary for aesthetics.
>>35400840
>u can't make any strength gains doing sets of 10 u must do sets of 3 and 5
fuck you
>>35400798
impossible to get stronger using sub maximal weights m8.
>>35400798
>>35400840
>>35400854
CONJUGATE METHOD
>>35400862
>using his 10RM weight for a set of 10
>not maximal
does nobody on /fit/ know what submax means and have a concept of what maximal is?
a max set has absolutely NOTHING to do with the rep range. a set of 5 is no more maximal than a set of 10, assuming you're using your 5 RM and 10 RM respectively.
>>35400798
>Daily reminder you can become big and strong without having to perform heavy squats, deadlifts, Bench, etc
True
>Daily reminder that people have destroyed their shoulders, knees, back, etc when perform heavy sets
True
>Daily reminder that all of this can pretty much be avoided if you stick with higher rep sets
Hahahahahahahahahaha
>>35400871
And how is that relevant to this thread?
its funny bodybuilders want to feel big but refuse to lift heavy. Like you can be tiny but if you pull3-4x bodyweight you feel mighty. Paired with body dysmorphia its just an endless cycle of hate and regret.
But at least your joints are healthier, or so you think.
>>35400840
But muh cryen 20rep diddys.
>>35400887
it's true though
I'm not a high rep shill
I do plenty of low reps myself
but it's a fact that you're much more likely to injure yourself doing a max set of 3 over a max set of 10, because the loading is just that much higher.
it could almost be compared to, how it's more likely to hurt yourself doing a quarter squat over a full squat. you can use less weight on a full squat, so it's overall less loading on the body, less chance of injury.
>>35400884
There is a difference between submaximal weights and submaximal effort
>>35400900
no
what you're talking about is usually referred to as INTENSITY.
and anyway, what you're pretty much saying is you must lift 100% your 1RM to get stronger (which I'm sure is not what you mean). you're just stupid and can't into terminology.
plenty of people have gotten big and strong doing sets of 5 or 10 or whatever, without ever lifting 100% of 1RM, which is submax intensity.
>>35400871
conjugate method is god-tier
once i pass the novice phase im jumping on it, all my buddies are on it
>>35400918
>>35400900
there are a lot of ways to describe the weights, my white brothers
Louie Simmons believes there are only 2 types of weights, fast and slow.
>>35400918
>no
Yes it is you mong, maximal weight=100% of 1RM, maximal effort=lifting until you go to failure(no matter the weight)
>>35400918
>and anyway, what you're pretty much saying is you must lift 100% your 1RM to get stronger
I never said that
>>35400918
>plenty of people have gotten big and strong doing sets of 5 or 10 or whatever, without ever lifting 100% of 1RM, which is submax intensity.
Yes, this is correct
>>35400940
>Louie Simmons believes there are only 2 types of weights, fast and slow.
Louie Simmons also had to invent a new discipline in (untested) powerlifting so his guys wouldn't have any competition.
>>35400854
ummm no
i would still suggest squatting and bench, just in the higher rep range. Same with deadlifts, if you want to do DLs
>>35400965
>Louie Simmons also had to invent a new discipline in (untested) powerlifting so his guys wouldn't have any competition.
please elaborate?
>>35400976
>please elaborate?
Multiply "powerlifting". He made gundam suits that add hundreds of kgs to the total and pretty much the only people that compete in it are Westside guys.
>>35400967
> conjugate method
First time I deadlifted I pulled 495lbs x 3 when I was 16 yrs old. You don't need to DL, Free Squat or Barbell bench to get strong at those lifts. The strongest lifters in the world only perform the big 3 in meets, they do other shit in training.
>>35400884
>does nobody on /fit/ know what submax means and have a concept of what maximal is?
Considering half of fit don't even lift and the other half is mostly newbies, no. Why don't you enlighten us instead of being a shitface?
>>35400965
are u trolling me
This other cunt (I thought it was you) was saying it's impossible to get stronger using submaximal weights.
that's implying OP is advocating working with submax weights to make strength/size gains.
which he wasn't
high reps =/= submaximal weights
>>35401031
>are u trolling me
I'm not agreeing with you so clearly I'm trolling you
>>35401031
>high reps =/= submaximal weights
high reps = submaximal weights
high reps does not neccessarily equal submaximal effort
You are confusing intensity and intensivity with each other
>>35401004
they perform variations of the big 3
>>35401000
ok...?
>>35400798
>All of this, said by the smallest/weakest cunt in the gym
>>35401094
>intensivity
confirmed for trolling
go
>>35401004
>First time I deadlifted I pulled 495lbs x 3 when I was 16 yrs old
>>35401094
also, shit, I did not mean submaximal weights.
nobody ever uses the terminology you're using anyway. FUCK YOU
>>35401107
>ok...?
My point is that Louie Simmons is a hack and all the guys he trained are on steroids and wouldn't be any good if they hadn't choosen to compete in the most niche discipline in a niche sport they could find.
>>35401127
>confirmed for trolling
Fine, name it percieved effort or whatever you want.
>>35401139
>nobody ever uses the terminology you're using anyway. FUCK YOU
>You're wrong because I say so! Hahaha, that'll show him
Ok
>>35401004
>The strongest lifters in the world only perform the big 3 in meets
Name them then you lying faggot.
Powerlifting programs consist almost entirely of the big 3.
>Hurr gotta increase my squat max, better spend 6 weeks pumping it out on leg press instead
Fuck outta here.
>>35401146
>Keeps the same training regimen for years, wonders why he never grows or gets stronger
You sir are a grade A faggot.
>>35401167
Did you reply to the wrong post?
>>35401165
Westside, Lexan, Schwab, Kroc, Chuck,...... look it up, pick any lifter in the top 10. Google their training log.
>>35401146
>My point is that Louie Simmons is a hack
lol no, a guy doesnt have such a long career as Louie while being a hack. Fucking guy has NFL teams coming to him for training advice. Stop with the hatred towards geared lifting. I used to be the same
>all on steroids
Im not sure if youre cereal right now. I assume you look up to Dan Green? The Lilliebridges? Fuck please.
>wouldn't be any good if they hadn't choosen to compete in the most niche discipline in a niche sport they could find.
is this for real too? You know you can't throw on a suit and be able to bench 1000lbs without being actually strong right?
dont let the hatred towards geared lifting blind you.
>>35401187
If we're looking at raw powerlifting, the strongest drugaroos are the Russians, and they all do the competition movements often. If we're looking at real(drug tested) powerlifting, the Norweigans are pretty good, and they do the competition movements, or close variations, 5-6 times per week.
Power lifters generally don't look good.
They just look like fat turds.
''hurr but I can deadlift so much'' nice one mate, you probably run out of breath fucking a bitch though.
Strictly focussing on being a power lifter is alright for some but most will just snap shit.
>>35401225
You're probably looking at strongmen or olympic lifters. Ignorant fuck, do you even lift?
>>35401187
>Look up chuck
>Literally first video i click on of him during one of his workouts, he's included conventional squats and deadlifts
Good job on disproving yourself faggot
>>35401211
>lol no, a guy doesnt have such a long career as Louie while being a hack. Fucking guy has NFL teams coming to him for training advice.
lol yes, he's only a good coach when his athletes doesn't have any competition. Says something about him.
>Stop with the hatred towards geared lifting. I used to be the same
>le "I'm so mature you'll grow up someday" argument
>I assume you look up to Dan Green? The Lilliebridges?
No
>is this for real too? You know you can't throw on a suit and be able to bench 1000lbs without being actually strong right?
I know that they are strong. Some of them could probably be pretty good powerlifters even without steroids or multiply suits. Same thing with singleply, they need to be strong to use the gear correctly. But there is no competition in multiply lifting and that's why Westside thrives on stupid training ideas
>>35401225
>>35401257
You're both retarded
>>35401257
This is the first imagine if you search power lifter.
>>35401292
>lol yes, he's only a good coach when his athletes doesn't have any competition. Says something about him.
what are you saying? I just said NFL teams come to him, why would they go if he isn't a good coach
i guess there is less competition now in geared because of the raw movement. idc to be honest, i dont even PL
>>35400871
>>35400933
Philosophy and theory of the conjugate method is fantastic but the WB programs tend not to work so well if you're not on heavy gear.
You can still use some of the ideas to modify programs that work well for nasties tho.
>>35401280
Box squats 2" above parallel and rack pulls starting above the knees are hardly "conventional" squats & deadlifts.
Nice try fag boy
>>35401399
>Westside method
Remember these guys already have elite numbers before they get to Louie, he gets them beyond the elite numbers. So get as strong as your going to get by your methods, then once you think you've peaked switch to conjugate.
>>35400898
squats are actually much worse in high reps for knees than low reps
>>35401313
don't be mean, they look good
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>>35401313
typical low reps only gains
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>>35401466
Doesn't matter what program/routine you use. What matters is if you stick with it and do the shit every fucking day your supposed to do it.
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>>35401453
Nice of you fags to conveniently ignore the other shredded powerlifters that came up
>>35401466
Spotted the DYEL
>>35400798
It's almost like people forget that STRO9NGMAN competitions require that the athletes perform HIGH REP events.
>>35401415
Good thing he wasn't doing box squats or rack pulls then you shit cunt.
And lol at your stupid as fuck logic. Claims the strongest lifters don't do the big 3 AT ALL, it's unnecessary to get strong etc. yet they clearly do the variations/accessories? How the fuck do you think they got to those variations in the first place you stupid fuck?
>>35401576
DYEL??
>>35400798
I've gotten 2 injuries while weightlifting. And they've both been during my warm up sets. I contribute those injuries to having a poor mobility and dynamic stretching preworkout and not properly evaluating my CNS. By the time I get to my heavy sets, I know I'm good to go because I passed the warm up sets.
>>35401600
Only DYEL here is the small fuck with no counter argument that thinks the big 3 are useless. Keep on with the damage control though.
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>>35401633
Everybody knows that the only thing that matters is that you take advantage of that 30 minute Anabolic window
>>35401633
>you
Guaranteed 2 pl8 squatter here.
>>35401004
>First time I deadlifted I pulled 495lbs x 3 when I was 16 yrs old.
what's a required rep range for aethetics building?
i've been doing 8
should i be doing more?
>>35402066
>Calls someone a 2pl8 squatter
>Doesn't even do squats
Ayy lmao :^)
Kill yourself
>>35402507
>you
Guaranteed 1 pl8 deadlifter here.
>>35402549
>Calls someone a 1pl8 daedlifter
>Doesn't even do deadlifts
Ayy lmao :^)
Kill yourself
>>35402578
>you
Guaranteed < 1 pl8 bp'er here
>>35402642
Are you retarded?
>>35401514
Why do you feel the need to reply to everyone you faggot cuck?
>>35401514
Thanks for replying to me. That was kind of you. <3
