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Is coffee the biggest scam and method of societal control ever?
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Is coffee the biggest scam and method of societal control ever? It's wagie fuel. It harms sleep. It's marketed everywhere.
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it's a good preworkout and helps supress appetite while cutting, that's about it
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>>35394658
>>>/r9k/
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what is "wagie fuel"?
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>>35394658
>wagie

Get back to your containment board robot.

That being said I think it's dumb how the only "socially acceptable" drugs are caffeine, alcohol, cigarettes, and weed.

Caffeine is shitty, alcohol is poison, cigarettes are the shittiest method of obtaining a drug ever and habitually using them is joyless, and weed is the most boring high ever unless you have a panic attack and want to die.
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>>35394658
pussy is
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>>35394776
Alcohol in small amounts is great for productivity.
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Caffeine spikes cortisol, which is usually unwanted.

OTOH, coffee has good polyphenols in it.

So yeah, coffee can be useful as preworkout as already mentioned, and some nutritional value. But if you drink so much that you develop a caffeine dependency and "need" it to function properly in the mornings, that's fucking stupid. So don't do that.
Freeze-dried instant coffee is useful for putting in shakes or whatever concoctions you have with powder. Also, instant decaffeinated exists so you get all the nutritional value with the caffeine problems.
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>>35394776
>not enjoying a good brew to go along with your oats in the morning
>not enjoying a good beer or wine with your steak after a hard days work.
cigarettes are for idiots tho
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>>35394882

i dont understand the drinking beer with meals meme. I like beer. But eating while drinking beer makes the food taste a bit worse and makes the beer taste like literal piss. Keep them seperate.
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>>35394658
More a by product of techology and todays life style.

More work = better.
Out work the machines bro...
Till we all become NEET's.
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>>35394824
i drink tea like 2 days a week

buts thats because i wake up for work at 3 am every day and TWO days out of the week i get stuck on the road driving for like 3 hours in traffic. If i dont have MUH TEA i pretty much fight sleep the whole dayum time.

ill drink it on the weekends while reading the paper if its cold out sometimes.


AM I AN ADDICT? PLS SAY NO
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>>35394658
i drink a cup of coffee and tea everyday. am i die?
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>>35395354
No, studies have shown that people who drink a cup of coffee a day live longer than those who don't. (however, not people who drink a shitload of coffee a day)
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>>35394824
>Freeze-dried instant coffee
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>>35394658
coffee is love, coffee is life
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>>35394776

>weed is the most boring high ever unless you have a panic attack and want to die

Man I agree. I get panic attacks from marijauna unless I go through the pain of building a tolerance, but it is fun sometimes.
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>>35394776
>alcohol is poison
So is water shitbird.
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>>35394658
>It harms sleep.

Just don't drink it right before you sleep, retard.
In normal amounts coffee is good for you.
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I'm addicted to coffee, and I'm okay with it. It's not bad for you (relatively speaking), and it tastes breddy gud.
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i stopped having coffee since around 1 month ago because it started to get hot here and i sweat a lot when i drink a lot of caffeine.
Well,i dont know if its that i drink more clear water or ditching the coffee,but my skin is clearer and softer ,and my pores dont look as big as before.
i dont think im having coffee anytime soon just in case ,i'd rather have better skin.
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there are harvard studies about the benefits of coffee. fuck off mate.
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>>35395956

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>>35395849
>water is poison
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started drinking coffee in college because i couldn't handle 8 am lectures. let's say that coffee is for the weak who use it as a crutch just to get through their daily routine. how do i escape the routine and move past the need for my morning cup of joe?

do people seriously fit in 8.5 hours of sleep while being fully productive every day?
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>>35396134
>>35396386
Meant in large enough quantities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication
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>>35396427
>8.5 hours of sleep

Hahahah what a fucking dream.

Almost anyone who works a demanding job/isn't in school/isn't a NEET piece of shit will tell you that's almost impossible.
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>>35396427
If you dont want to rely on coffee to wake up, try waking up without coffee.

But seriously, I find the best thing is to go to bed at the same time every day so I can wake up at the same time every day. Routine is key
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>>35396438
Are you retarded senpai?
You do realize that you have to drink a fuck ton of water for that to happen, unlike alcohol.
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>>35396438
>you

pls

next you will tell us spit is toxic but only if swallowed in small quantities over LONG periods of time
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>>35396495
The day before a full body exam I had a fun weekend down at the lake with friends... Legs just say in one day I drank 53 beers and a liter of liquor...

If that had been water I would have died...

BTW blood work and physical came out great
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>>35396569
>i drink alcohol
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>>35394658

>implying coffee and coffee shops weren't banned in the 16th century middle east for inspiring political fervent upheaval
>people sat around getting jacked up on coffee

i love coffee. i usually have between six and ten cups a day.
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This whole thread is fucking awful, i can't BELIEVE i share a board with fucks that actually drink alcohol and or coffee.
I bet some of you even drink soda. Fucking disgusting.
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>>35395849
Plot twist
>water is poison
>takes 70-100 years to kill you
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I'm going to try and make this post without flaming anyone but you guys are making it especially difficult.

Weed is literally a miracle drug, the positive effects are ridiculous in number and widely established, and the negative effects are, I guess, if you're a retard who just smokes yourself into a coma all day, but that's more a case of personal issues that would probably have happened with alcohol or painkillers or some shit anyway. Abuse of a substance does not reflect poorly on the substance, it reflects poorly on the user.

Marijuana is amazing for sleep aid, appetite enhancement during bulking/general eating (you could eat a plate of boiled kale stoned and think it was exquisite), it makes sex feel better, makes shit funnier, and in moderate doses shows literally no negative side effects.

>M-muh smoke inhalation

Who the fuck said anything about burning plant matter and ingesting it into your lungs, you dumb fuck? Check yourself into vaporization or edibles like a sensible human being and start enjoying life.

Alcohol is also a borderline wonder drug, no, you don't have to down a 24-pack of ghetto swill every night to yourself in your studio apartment, but a couple microbrews with friends (lol) or work acquaintances, and I mean small batch beers brewed by artisans, not Budweiser or Miller Lite, well established shit beers for rednecks to get drunk and fuck their cousins on, can be tasty and compliment food almost as well as wine.

I'm not even going to get into wine, the shit's been around since like the dawn of recorded history, it's since been refined to be incredible, pair amazingly well with food assuming you're eating something more complex than McDoubles for the sick cheap gains (omg muh 21g protons), and tastes great (try buying a $100+ bottle you fucks, not Barefoot from your friendly 7-11)

Fuck this post is getting autistic as fuck, just do research and stop looking so retarded by having strong opinions on shit you don't understand, /fit/.
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>>35396656
Le updoot XDDD enjoy your 4chan gold good sir
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>>35396569
>53 beers and a liter of liquor.
Absolute bullshit.
Enjoying winter break, kiddo?
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>>35396671
Idk m8, a tiny hit of weed gives me a hell-tier panic attack for 3+ hours.
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>>35396055
Why would someone not in the coffee industry want to spend thousands of dollars to research how a coffee product affects people long term fuck wad
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>>35394658
Yes, caffeine in general is garbage. There are beneficial compounds in some caffeinated drinks, but decaf versions exist. Caffeine releases stress hormones, keys you up to respond to things in a less balanced way, makes it hard to really relax during the day and decreases sleep quality at night, in addition to suppressing appetite, stressing your heart and potentially interfering with sexual performance. All this so you can give off the perfect Calvinistic image of the energetic and busy man. How disgusting.

It's not poison, just bad for you.
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>>35395849
raging alcoholic detected
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>>35396602
???
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>>35394658
/pol9k/ pls go and stay go
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hello i don't care about the content of this thread

however I like the girl in the OP

thanks for ur time.
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>>35394776
>weed
>acceptable

maybe in shitholes
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>>35394658
A friend told me coffee makes my cum taste bitter so I'm not drinking coffee anymore.
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>>35394824
>freeze dried or instant coffee

Absolutely disgusting
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>>35396427
Swap in morning fasted cardio over coffee. A one to two mile jog perks you up as much as a mug does.
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>>35395380
>believing these "people who eat/drink x live longer' food 'studies"

Its all bullshit and you know it
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>not stacking caffeine with l-theanine
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>tfw green tea master race
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>>35394664
Caffine inhibits the action of HGH post-exercise. Unless you're flooding your system with roids, enjoy less gains friend
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>>35396569
>if the beer and liquor had no alcohol in it I would have died
gr8 b8
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>>35396671
you, you're good you, you're very good
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Im a caffeine addict, I find I can barely start my day without coffee. Im going to go cold turkey - what's the amount of time I can expect to wait before I'm not tired constantly without caffeine again. Am I fucked for life?
Also, say I have a report due in the afternoon and I really need to get my shit together in the morning - I'd their a non-chemical way of stimulating my focus?
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So if I drink a full medium sized moka pot every morning, am I an addict? I only half fill the basket tho.
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>>35399390

going to need medical and scientific citations on that one m8.
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>>35396671
All of those are still shit that you don't need and would do better without.

When was the last time your doctor said "you should drink alcohol, eat marijuana and start vaping?"

Just live clean and you'll be better off.
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>>35399846
>doctors
>knowing their shit

Whenever I saw a doctor (a specialist even) with some minor injury the answer was always 'stop doing sports'.
Fuck doctors
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I switched to decaf.
I felt so bad.
I did a recarb today, so it might be my hormones.

I only drink caffeine if it's from coke or black tea, which is mostly two glasses a week.

That said, i started to go to bed at 10 pm.
That's good, because I work best in the morning.
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>>35396569
>Trying this hard to impress a bunch of anonymous users on a ancient Mongolian knee boarding forum.
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>>35396491
Depends, you can't always get full sleep, but you can pay denbts by sleeping earlier.
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>>35396491
Why would anyone sacrifice their well being and disrespect their body for a few extra bucks?
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>>35399862
this
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>>35395160
man that pic is so genius but i bet its overpriced and i feel like it should come with two bottles of liq
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>>35396671
>things feel better when i'm high
Can easily become
>things feel worse when i'm not high
Weed just like any drug can ruin your enjoyment of things
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upon reading this thread I can conclude you are virgin NEETs who know jack all about anything. You really belong here.
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>>35399764
modafinil and phenibut
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>>35399910
creatine
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>>35399910
Spoken like a true NEET.
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>>35400396
See you in 10 years, when my NEET ass is still healthy and happy, and you are basically considering suicide every day, and the only thing holding you back is your 2 kids.
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>>35400564

projecting hard is also a NEET trait, mr. NEET. I know you think you're gonna be better than everyone just because you do nothing with your life, but you do realize there are people so far above you, you'll never even come close, right? After all, how can a pathetic little basement dweller like who exercises a little bit every few days and spends the rest of his days either sitting down or sleeping compare to someone that spends his work life on the move? I swear, you must be the dumbest person on this board.
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>>35399764
>Going cold turkey
Don't do this. You will fucking hate your life for a week. Caffeine is actually addictive, and while the effects of going cold turkey are pretty much just headaches and just being generally irritated by everything, it's still not fun.

If you drink more than one cup a day, just reduce it to one in the morning. Then, after a week, reduce it to a caffeinated tea in the morning. Then quit entirely.
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>>35400675
It IS going to happen, unless you really really love what you do, which I doubt, since you base your value on external validation and basically do stuff to appear X, Y or Z, not because you enjoy doing it.

also

>implying you are going to achieve something more than jump a few steps up the corporate ladder

I'm not advocating inaction and unemployment, but sacrificing all of your time to make a 'career' is pretty dumb.
I bet you believe that you will finally achieve happiness with the next pay raise. Or was it the one after that?
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>>35396675
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>>35396569
Don't you dare fucking breed.
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>>35395843
Same here man, i used to be crazy about weed even tho i smoked fairly little. Whenever i smoke on occasion now i always have fucking panic attacks and have come to the conclusion awhile ago, that the only way to not have them is build a tolerance.

Which is a pain in the ass
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>>35400747
I'm a veterinarian, son. I'm in charge of going out on the field (like the other day me and the intern and a couple of students had to chase a pig in a field because her owner let the door slightly open), perform surgeries (standing, obviously. Only the anesthetist gets to sit down), etc. Nobody gets here without loving the (rough) job and without being smart and having grit + focus to plow through the 6+ years it takes to finish up the course (Masters' Integrated or however you say it in English). So, yes. I am better than you will ever be.
The rest of your talk "base your value on external validation and basically do stuff to appear X, Y or Z, not because you enjoy doing it.

also

>implying you are going to achieve something more than jump a few steps up the corporate ladder

I'm not advocating inaction and unemployment, but sacrificing all of your time to make a 'career' is pretty dumb.
I bet you believe that you will finally achieve happiness with the next pay raise. Or was it the one after that?" is the same drivel my unemployed brother who never went to college says. I see you have a lot in common.

You should open your idiot little eyes and stop acting like you are/will be better than your superiors. You're like a fat 16 year old slob flinging shit at a 17 year old who comes home late at night after a full day of classes + training because he has his eyes set on a college scholarship.
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>>35398563
And ashwaghanda
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>>35395319
>drink tea like 2 days a week
you ever been to britain? we drink 2 cups a day minimum senpai, thats nothing
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>>35400897
Open my idiot eyes to what? To the premise that it's better to spend 12h at work than 8 and have enough sleep to feel good? No thanks.

Unlike you, I never claimed to be superior to anyone. I don't even rate shit like that. I was simply pointing out, that if career takes too much of your time, you will start feeling miserable pretty soon. Yet here you are, bragging about being a vet and how much better you are than me. I'm glad you found something you like doing, but it doesn't make you a better person.
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>>35396671
You, I like you.
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>>35400982

It does. Everyone is better than NEETs. You were spewing bullshit about being healthier than me and I merely made you understand how that is simply impossible. All NEETs like you like to complain about wagefolk and pretend you are superior, claming a career "takes too much of your time" but let's face it, you waste it with loser shit like watching anime, shitposting, weed, etc. There is absolutely no reason for you to be so deluded as to think you (an unemployed, uncultured, associal loser) are better than someone who works a 9-5 to build a family/life. For all intents and purposes, you are no better than a smelly hobo complaining about "them suits running around".
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>>35394824
>Freeze-dried instant coffee
disgusting
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>>35401081
Damn son, you have a lot of anger inside you.
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>>35401179
There's a UK add for a supermarket called Sainsbury's atm that suggests butting instant coffee in bolognese sauce.

Yes this does say a lot about English cooking.
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>>35401459
>>35401459
As opposed to what? Those pathetic "feels" that people on this board (tfwnogf and other virgin/loser shit) are always on about?
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>>35401578
As opposed to peace.
You care too much about what other people feel and this makes you angry. You also have a big sense of self-importance and that's not healthy either.
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>>35394776
Alcohol increases test kike boy.
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>>35396438
That's not a toxic effect. That's a dilution effect.

Very different from poison.
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>>35396569
You are so stupid, it hurts.
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>>35401615
Well that's a failed cold read. I'm at peace with myself, otherwise I would still be in my parent's basement lashing out, instead of reaching where I am. "big sense of self-importance". Curious. The only people that I've ever seen saying something similar are bottom feeders talking about people who know their worth and got to high ground by their lonesome.
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>>35401678
Son, you are not ok. You can't post without generalizing about the people you think are inferior to you.
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>>35396438

>inigomontoya.png
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>>35401714
Says the guy who generalizes about the people he thinks are inferior to him (salaryfolk, for one). Don't tell me you're one of those who thinks we are all the same and subscribe to that worthless "when the game ends, pawn and king go in the same box" drivel.
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A giant mug of coffee in the morning is good when cutting.

Cuts down apetite while increasing metabolism (3-11% increase in caloric requirement per day depending on the amount of coffee and how much your body is used to caffeine)
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>>35401749
I'm not the same person you were talking to. I write much less than him.
From the quick read i did he doesn't even feel superior to anybody, you were the one projecting that.
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>>35401795
Call it what you want. Projection, reality, whatever. It simply is how it is.
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Motherfucker I don't drink, smoke, or do drugs.

I only drink water and coffee. Let me have something in this life. Coffee's all I got.
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>>35394824
this.
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>>35401824
Eh, whatever. You don't care about self-improvement and not going to force it to you.
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>>35401865
Wow you're a special kind of idiot. Where did I state that? You're seriously dumb and phased out from reality. I mean, in Veterinary, where I have to keep studying, improving, taking specialties, read newly published articles, adapt to new equipment and surgical protocols, learn about business as well and make my own clinic...Damn, guy. Living in your basement really has dulled your brain. Not even basic critical thinking.
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>>35397754
>Vancouver, BC
>regularly in the top 5 cities in the world
>famous for "BC bud", everyone smokes casually like sharing a beer
>shit hole
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>>35399831
tbf mate i usually read stuff like that on here and take it as gospel. im probably not gonna use caffeine for preworkout anymore because of what he/she said
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>>35401919
I never said anything about carreers.
Everything i said was about personality and state of mind. You have a problem understanding the point of view of others, you also make too many assumptions.
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>>35401459
Nah, he's probably just German
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>>35401081
I'm not the same anon, but you're arguing from a very strange position in my opinion. The one and only argument you could make was that in doing your job you're somehow "bettering the world", which I personally think you are as a Veterinarian. That is an admirable job, and if you enjoy it, even better.

But the other anon is right in that your life is measured out in time. Not wealth, not success, but time. It's all you're given and when it's gone, you're gone.

If you think your time is best spent doing your job (AND you want to provide for your family in the future) then fucking do it. But if the other anon doesn't want to spend his life being tired, under appreciated, working for somebody else then it is his choice how to spend his time on this earth.

I personally work a very shitty job for just barely above minimum wage and I hate it. But I still work hard. Very hard. I get a rush from working hard sometimes.

Yet my only true ambition would be to never have to work again. People say "what is your dream job?" and my only response would be "none". My dream is to be able to spend AS MUCH TIME as I can with friends, family, doing things that I love and seeing the world. I want to make the world a better place to, but I don't think my "work" will ever allow me to do that. Only with the freedom of doing whatever I want whenever I want would allow me to come up with ways to make any impression on this earth.

So I admire you for having a good job and doing good work, but I also admire the other anon for knowing what makes him happy and recognizing that he only gets one fucking shot at this life.
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Wow this thread is an absolute shithole.

And I found the question interesting too.

>Is coffee the biggest scam and method of societal control ever? It's wagie fuel. It harms sleep. It's marketed everywhere.

My 14 year old sister has asked me to drive her to Starbucks at least a dozen times this break. She's obsessed with the place and makes my mom buy the roast there so she can drink it at home. All of her friends are the same way.

It's horrifying. All these middle school girls are having maybe 3-400 mg of caffeine a day, along with 100 g of sugar. I knew about the white girl Starbucks meme but I had no idea it started so young.

On Tinder all these 16 and 17 year old girls profiles mention coffee. "I love coffee, I need coffee, I can't live without coffee." What the fuck? What does a high school sophomore need coffee for?

Irrespective of whether a caffeine dependency is bad for you or not, it's pretty alarming that so many middle and early high schoolers have one.
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>>35402061
If you're educated your work can help you make the world a better place
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>>35401973

I don't need other people's point of view. I have my life on track. Hell, I built the train, the track and I'm at the wheel. I know how hard life hits and hit it harder. Why would I waste time trying to understand losers? Why would I try to see things through the eyes of those who make them happen? "boohoo tfwnogf" Well, I didn't have a gf either and was fat and awkward but realized that it only depended on me, so I changed. If I can do it, you can too, but you're too comfortable being a loser and complaining. (Here the you is not you, obviously) Or getting mad when I don't lend you money for weed and we stop being friends, even if you never paid me back for the other times. There is no worth in seeing things through the eyes of those who bring it upon themselves.


>>35402061
Thank you and I do see your point, believe me but I also "know" these guys are young lazy bums (if I didn't know better, I'd say they are my brother, since they are the same) who will reach their 40s with absolutely nothing and be absolutely nothing with no chance of changing. They are at a point in their lives where they can turn the fucking tide, before it comes and swallows them whole, but they keep making these mindless arguments about feeling "happy" and not working a "shit job like those corporate drones, man" and that their time "is precious"...While doing nothing but staying at home and shitposting and watching cartoons. There is absolutely no justification for doing that instead of preparing a future worth living.
I would like to tell my dad's story, but it would be even more text and I don't really know if it would be of interest for people who simply don't want to change their ways before their ways gut them.
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>>35402068
Damn. Isn't coffee unhealthy at that age? I remember growing up being told too much caffeine will stunt your growth.

I think the best way to keep kids outta alcohol/coffee/drugs is by letting them try it when they're young. They will hate it, and will never try it again until they're older
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>>35402068
I think they are more addicted to sugar than caffeine
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>>35402147
this x1000. starbucks is a wombo combo of sugar and caffeine. super addictive and makes easy prey of youngins
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>>35402136
>Why would I waste time trying to understand losers? Why would I try to see things through the eyes of those who make them happen?
Because it bothers you and makes you angry.
Those feelings are bad for you and may lead to the bitterness depicted on movies with the ''old man alone in a house'' trope/clichƩ.
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>>35402068
It;s not about the caffeine. It's about being 'mature' and 'cool'
Same reason cigarettes are popular amongst teens who end up quitting anyways
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>>35402162
this

if you know anything about coffee, you know to stay away from that shit hole. It's not even coffee, just burnt milk.

Caffeine actually has some beneficial properties and is a great pre workout/morning routine supplement. It's only a problem when you start downing 5 cups a day and feel like a wired mess.
Too much caffeine creates this state where you start to develop a need for it to get back to a functioning level, and when you start downing those 5 cups just to get their, you start to fuck your shit up.
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Reading this thread made me realize how fucking retarded all of you are.

To think I fell for the SS meme by trusting you retards. Luckily I have a good friend that got me on a brosplit.

Anyways moot should probably close this shit down you are all retarded as fuck and are probably ruining the lives of new lifters.
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>>35402204
There is a guy in my city that is famous for his hair and his coffe addiction
He almost fainted once because he didn't have coffee for too long
That's a VERY extreme case but it's scary to thing about it
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>>35402179
Wrong, again. Believe what you want, but you are wrong on this one. You probably never debated anyone, but it's possible the have a passionate argument without actually having the feeling.
I will never be that clichƩ. I have a fiancee and she's always talking about marriage and kids and our future and I'm family oriented, anyway.


>>35402252
Your fault for not using your brain and taking all you read at face value.
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>>35402252
>To think I fell for the SS meme by trusting you retards. Luckily I have a good friend that got me on a brosplit.

SS is a perfectly good program for its intended results- training your nervous system for lifting. It's your own damned fault for thinking SS alone will make you look like a greek god
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>>35402145
Probably, the growth stunting is a myth though.

It depends on the kid. When I was 8 or 9 I accidentally took a sip of gin that I thought was water and I liked the taste so much that I finished the whole glass.

>>35402147
The sugar is definitely part of it but there's also a lot of caffeine in those drinks that has to be building up a dependency too.

When my sister drinks the roast at home, she doesn't put much sugar in it.

>>35402185
That's also definitely part of it, there's a big social dynamic. The one time I agreed to drive her there she wanted me to pick up one of her friends too.

But I think this stays "cool" for women into their late 20s at which point they will have a really hard time cutting out coffee, and given its complete lack of stigma, won't try that hard to do so.
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>>35402204
i do actually like a lot of their roasts though. not to tip my fedora, but it's obnoxious waiting in line behind 30 katie "quad vanilla double whip low fat mocha" chaddingtons when i just want a cup of already brewed coffee
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>>35402136
>>35401919
>>35401824
>>35401749
>>35401678
>>35401578
>>35401081
Wew lad. I'm the anon you initially lashed out at. You really project and assume too much. I simply pointed out the importance of healthy balance between work and life (yes, the two are not the same). I never even said I'm a NEET, but you somehow managed to read that from my posts. You also managed to read that I feel superior, that I complain a lot, that I watch animu, that I'm an idiot, and that I shitpost with feels, yet there is none of that in my posts.
Seriously, get your shit together, because for someone who claims he doesn't waste time on losers you write extremely lengthy posts with a lot of anger in them.
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>>35402283
You don't have a passionate debate by saying losers, virgin, bottom feeders, special kind of idiot, projection, i am better than you will ever be, and so on...
That's anger
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>>35402354
To each their own. I can't stand that place. I'd rather hit up a local coffee shop and get a cheaper brew that's 100x better.
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>>35402283
>I will never be that clichƩ
>marriage and kids and our future and I'm family oriented

is this bait?
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>>35402386
(You)

>>35402372
I don't understand why you americans take everything so personally and don't understand how passion isn't fueled by anger. Is this a mediterranian vs american culture?
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>>35402431
PAY DENBTS
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>>35402431
I'm not american.
Diminishing others is not being passionate
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>>35402384
yeah i would go for a local place just for the shoter line even, but there's nothing around except equal or shittier chains like dunkin donuts.

you're definitely right about the caffeine dependency. over the last year i've inadvertently cycled caffeine. going from 1-2 cups/day to decaf and back. the first few days back on full caff are amazing, but then like you said it becomes necessary even to just maintain normal energy level
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I stopped all caffeine intake a few weeks ago. I still g get minor headaches occasionally. Caffeine is a hell of a drug.
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>>35402461
After you finish that burger, sweetums.
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>>35402431
You are a cunt m8.

How do you like my passion?
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>>35397223
Smoke Indica, avoid Sativa.
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>>35402517

A boring reaction from a boring guy. Probably even posts in tfwnogf and feels threads.
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>>35402508
>implying I'm not a Moor
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>>35394658
I want to see women in that sitting position. It gives me a raging boner.

My gf has legs like that and I just have the urge to fuck her right then and there because of that pose.

For fucks sake I love women's legs. Anyone else knows what I'm talking about?

POST MOAR

To OP, I drink green tea because coffee speeds my heart rate too much.
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>>35402566
Ironic, coming from a 'family oriented vet'
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Coffee literally does nothing for me in terms of energy. It just makes me need to shit like right there and then. Why is this?
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>>35402600
(You)
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>>35402647
A boring reaction from a boring guy. Probably even posts in tfwnogf and feels threads. Also brags about being a vet on a Vietnamese stool collecting board.
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>>35402605
The hot liquid makes your brain send a signal to the bowels saying "MAKE WAAAAAAAAAY!"
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>>35402670
uptheboat
Ebin maymay
Etc
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>>35402704
back to reddit desu senpai
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>>35394658
Yes
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coffee taste like shit and smells like shit

just buy some good jap loose leaf teas and no im not a fucking weeb I just enjoy superior jap tea
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>>35402605
About 20% of all people have that reaction to coffee. It's just not for you.
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>>35402605
that's what it's for
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Who the fuck hates on coffee? Without it they would be no modern world
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>>35402590
doesnt green tea have lots of coffeine tho?
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>>35402897
no youre a fucking hipster
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>>35396569
>He's still so young he counts what he drinks
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>>35394658
Id to lick her coffee if you know what im sayin
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coffee makes me want to shit bad if I'm eating a big meal with it so I usually get decaf if I want something hot to drink. That or some nice fruity tea.
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>>35403333
nope
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>>35394824
literally plebeian
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>>35398333
>in NYC for first time
>jewish kids with pamphlets walking around
>jewish kids stops me and asks, "are you jewish?"
>give them a blank stare
>tfw 6'2, blond haired, and blue eyed

Wtf jew kids
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how come coffee makes me more social

and its not the caffeine because my pre-workout doesnt make me talkative
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>>35403477
>Id to lick her coffee
>if you know what im saaaayiiinnnnn

Jigga what
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>>35404002
spoiler it's the caffeine. your pre-workout either has less caffeine or you just focus the extra energy into lifting rather than talking
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>>35404093
i'd roast her bean, if you follow
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>>35395142
Have you tried drinking decent beer?
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Drinking anything but water is stupid. Ive only been drinking water for years so I can feel superior to all of you
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>>35394658
its delicious and its enough.
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>>35402145
I drank tea as a child and my mother gives my niece and nephew tea when they come visit. They're 4 and six. To be fair its like 50% milk and served luke warm so they cant scald themselves.

It just seems odd to me that parents would deny their kids tea and coffee but let them have cola. Do people not realize there's caffeine in coke?
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>>35401479
fucking kek
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>>35396491
I do 8 hour shifts, 4 classes, still have time to lift and occasionally watch tv or play vidya and i get 8 hrs of sleep a day
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>>35394658
I think your exaggerating but it is true that it has little to no effect on energy or alertness for most people.

People that do feel this effect are prolonged users with a mild addiction that are actually experiencing withdrawal symptoms when they haven't had coffee/caffeine in their system for several hours and then the resulting pickup when they ingest some. The pickup its self only brings their mood and energy level back to that of a persons without their addiction.

I'll dig up the reference papers if you want.
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>>35396504
sauce on game in image?
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>>35396569

>53 beers
>1 day
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>>35396655

Drinking a soda right now. How does than make you feel senpai?
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>>35407732
looks like Yurt;s helmet from Demon's souls
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its going to be interesting to see whether or not amphetamines gain a similar social acceptance to that of coffee
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>>35399390


"Does Caffeine Affect Growth Hormone Release?
Does Caffeine Affect Growth Hormone Release?
By Joseph Pritchard Sep 16, 2015
Contrary to popular belief, caffeine does not stunt growth. Instead, caffeine seems to stimulate growth hormone release, according to a study published in the 1984 issue of the ā€œJournal of Endocrinological Investigation.ā€ If caffeine stimulates the release of growth hormone, then caffeine consumption in children and adolescents will not limit their physical development; however, according to a study published in a 1983 issue of ā€œPediatric Research,ā€ long-term caffeine consumption might inhibit growth. This suggests that duration of consumption influences how caffeine affects growth hormone release."
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>>35396491
>>35396427


Brehs...

8.5h is literally the absolute minimum amount of sleep you can get away with without suffering negative consequences. You can't seriously expec to make any gains unless you're getting a joocy 10 or 11 hours each and every night. Not even meming right now. That is truly what your body needs.
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Coffee is definately a poison but its a tasty tasty poison

In nature its a natural insecticide
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1984/10/9/caffeine-kills-insects-scientist-says-pif/
I love the taste and smell of it but it gives me anxiety and makes concentration impossible, still love it though
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>>35396569
it's the best when there are tons of girls drinking their ciders or long drinks and they all leave them half full and take another one already

then there's these retards who e-stat their drinking so much in every way that it's just hilarious, even if you'd weigh 100 kilos and spent 24 hours drinking all that your highest blood alcohol concentration would be 10ā€° which I really doubt off
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>>35401926
>"Guys weed culture is totally acceptable and harmless, and don't forget, COOL!!"

go get a fucking life loser.
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>>35396495
>>35396504
Not OP, but I think you guys are misunderstanding his point. Basically, you could argue anything not consumed in moderation is harmful to you, but it doesn't mean we should automatically deem it as "poison" just because some people abuse it... Having said that, alcohol is still pretty fucking bad for you.
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>>35401645
This. Damn man
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>>35395142
opinion
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>>35395394
tht feel tho
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>>35400919

I have become a teafag myself. I just ordered some looseleaf Ceylon from Ahmad to go with kettle and teaball my mom got me for chirstmas. I already have 3-4 big cups a day
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>>35398455

Actually, its a pretty conclusive meta study. While it hasn't been proven, in ever study that was examined a moderate coffee consumption lead to longer life expectancy. Most lilely because they werent drinking caloric dense soda in its place.
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>>35401755

I find that I get more hungry from coffee in the morning.
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I take 400 mg a day cuz I'm cutting am I fucking my shit up?
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coffee tastes like shit so i don't drink it.
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>>35395849
Guess we're 75% poison.
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>>35407829
How fucking dumb are you?
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>>35394658
>coffee the biggest method of societal control ever
No, thats weed
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>>35397245
This study makes coffee look good. That's why it's funded by Folgers. They want you to buy more coffee because science says it's good for you.

You really think that they would ask scientists to find out how and in what amounts coffee is detrimental to health?
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>>35407801
>ong-term caffeine consumption might inhibit growth
WILL THEY EVER LEARN
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>>35403333
green tea has something like 1/20th the amount of caffeine that coffee has
maybe even less
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>>35395849
Lol "shit bird"
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>>35394776
>weed
>socially acceptable
>advocating for hard drugs

i don't think so, scumbag. literally kill yourself, fucking degenerate piece of shit.
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>>35396569
>>35396569
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/the-main-ingredients-of-beer.html

>95% is water
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>>35396671
You sir... Are a faggot
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>>35400675
What the fuck is NEET mean someone who's not too cool for people please tell me
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>>35400919
Why would you ask him that???? Britain is for FAGGOTS.
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>>35408602
Not Educated, Employed or in Training i think
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>>35401678
what the fuck is wrong w/ you lmao
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>>35408648
Not in education, employment, or training
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>>35408539

>mummy and daddy told me it was bad so now I hate it

Confirmed for underage
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>>35397223

Like he said, not the substance, it's the user.

I have only ever gotten a panic attack twice from weed. One time I freaked out because my music playlist seemed to have a lot of alternative music playing and I thought the music that was playing meant I was gay, and another time I just freaked out and thought the government was at my front door. (I literally thought the members of parliament were at my front door.)

The first time happened maybe 10 years ago and the second one happened probably about 5 years ago.
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Lol@ that bitches crazy eyes.
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>>35402897
i can jive to this.

Any tea brand recommendations?
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>>35394658
>it harms sleep

Don't drink it an hour before bedtime, you fucking chode.
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>>35408416
by your logic why would they do that with any substance ever if it doesn't immediately kill you.

Yes they completely would. So we have information on coffee and know in what amounts we should drink it or if we should drink it all.

You literally have down syndrome.
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as far as preworkout supplements go, microdosing LSD is way better than caffeine desu senpai
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>>35409209
http://www.uptontea.com/store/home.asp??afterCart=/store/home.asp&referral=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Egoogle%2Ecom%2F
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>>35394658
are you fucking serious?
coffee/cocoa was the reason for the god damn enlightenment!
when gatherings of people started consuming a stimulant instead of a depressant (alcohol) while relaxing and talking among friends, humanity underwent some of it's greatest advanes
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>>35394783
Underwetted.
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>>35396671
>weed is a miracle a drug
>alcohol is a wonder drug
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>>35409280
Always be suspicious of studies showing results that benefit their backers. Always.
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>>35409336
this is quite possibly the most autistic thing i've seen all day
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>>35409318
much obliged
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>>35404172
bud light is decent isn't it?
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>>35409409
nigga....
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>>35399738
I like the Deniro impression, but I don't like that you agreed with that fag
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>>35409369
I am suspicious, just not of multiple peer reviewed studies from some of the biggest Uni's in the world. Coffee has some health benefits and is generally considered a non addictive substance. Not in the same league as cigs or alch, maybe weed.
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>>35394658
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>>35401926
I live in Van, its far from a shit hole but I wanna move away from here.

>>35407884
there is no argument here.
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>>35407884
Who's saying that? I don't think it should be illegal, but I'm not going to say it's cool or harmless. Why do you have such an intense hatred towards pot and the people that smoke it?
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>>35396656
Hello 9gag.
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