>Social gains general
How the fuck do you act interesting at parties, brehs?
Going to new years party where I only know like 1 dude, what's the secret to not becoming "that guy" who sits in the corner all night?
>>35389581
>what's the secret to not becoming "that guy" who sits in the corner all night?
Not going
>>35389581
Dress like the driver and act cool and mysterious
Ask people about themselves. People love talking about themselves.
> what do you do
> how do you know the hosts
> etc
this is a voe thread isn't it
>>35389581
dont bother
>>35389581
Phenibut, i make a lot of acquaintances now
>>35389581
Smile and ask questions, have a few stories to tell but don't feel the need to throw them out there for no reason.
Just say whatever, and I mean WHAT EVER is on your mind
You can talk about the most ridicilous, stupid shit with people if you just show general interest and speak with confidence
Focus ALL YOUR ENERGY, on the person you're conversing with, not on yourself
What that means is basically:
>NEVER think "is what I'm saying stupid?" - That's thinking about YOURSELF
>NEVER think "Am I impressing this person, am I cool" - That's thinking about YOURSELF
Instead, focus completely on the person/group you're talking to and try to vibe in on their energy
If you can't think of anything to say, ask questions, if you start to become self-aware again, return your energy to the person you're talking with.
Understand that 95% of dialogue is just 1 thing: Exchange of energy
What you say doesn't really mean jack shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-a1jXgAsQI
watch this
>>35389659
>1 hour
breh...
>>35389595
>cool and mysterious
in other words sit in one corner all night
>>35389598
This. Being interested will make you almost as enjoyable at a party as being interesting.
Long term: Do something cool with your life.
>>35389625
phenibut is great but fucks up my gains because you shouldn't eat for few hours on either side of taking it.
>tfw just sit in corner and hardly talk and people fucking love me at parties
Seriously all you have to do if you're awkward as fuck is just be there, don't sit in a corner by yourself like an outcasted jackass, but just sit with a group and go along with whatever and throw some absurd smartass comments here and there
>>35389659
I've seen this before. it has a lot of good advice and a lot of silly advice. overall worth watching with a grain of salt
>>35389655
this is a good post. it's true, and I recently realized this while going on a few tinder dates. one girl I had instant chemistry with, even though we didn't have much in common. but we just rambled nonsensically and made retarded jokes all night and she was kinda fugly desu.
the next girl was cute, we were in the same field, had lots of things "in common", but boring, typical "get to know you" conversations. no real chemistry. even though it made sense that we would get along more, the energy wasn't there.
point being, I had a firsthand experience w what this guy was talking about. its all about the vibe - watch RSD in field videos and see that these guys are literally just spewing nonsense and most importantly ENJOYING THEMSELVES
>>35389581
work up to it throughout the day. if you know you have to be social later, be social all day. force yourself to small talk with cashiers, coworkers, whoever. Smile at people you run into. be friendly to everyone and get into the mindset that you aren't inherently awkward and boring. that's just you overthinking everything.
you only get what you put out into the world.
>>35389581
>Not being the guy who sits in the corner all night
I'm pretty much that guy and I feel like it's one of the best ways to come off as interesting.
I get at least 2-3 people, drunk or sober, come and talk to me. Then like other anons said, you talk about yourself as little as possible.
>Hey bud, do you want a drink?
Sorry, don't drink.
>But why not?
I have my reasons(of course to preserve gains).
>So what do you do?
My job is rather complicated. It's better if I don't tell you.
>Hey Anon, Stacy thinks your cute. You should dance with her.
Tell Stacy I'm already infatuated with the beautiful night we're having
This way, I see more people talking about me at parties. I only seem to struggle with getting people's numbers and following up.
>>35389668
No, sitting is submissive, lean against the wall in a dominant fashion
>>35389795
This is true. Spending the day dicking around on 4chan before going out is not a recipe for being a social butterfly.
>>35389804
>Tell Stacy I'm already infatuated with the beautiful night we're having
This is pure autism, m8
Get drunk af. I'm shy as all get out until I get a drink or two in me.
Nothing a little bit of liquid courage can't solve
>but muh gains
Who cares about gains when you can't even hold a conversation at a party
>>35389804
>My job is rather complicated. It's better if I don't tell you.
Lad, no.
>>35389804
Autism: The Post
>>35389690
this
>>35389804
10/10
>>35389804
This is the most autistic thing I've read all day.
Don't fucking take advice from this retard.
>>35389826
Nope. That works, senpai.
It's just a matter of practice. "Social gains" are like physical gains in that when I don't go out or socialize much for a few months, it's harder to get back out there. Just go to whatever social stuff you can, whether it be parties, out with bros, social events at your gym, etc. it's just a matter of spending the time talking to people and becoming confident in your social skills.
>>35389655
>>35389598
It's funny how the autists need to programme themselves into being a decent person
>do this, do that, don't do this, don't do that, make sure you do this
The problem is that you care too much. Got something to lose, kiddo?
>>35389898
Not everyone are as lucky as you, bro
Some people had fucked up childhoods, embarassing social experiences, etc..
Things you take for granted because you learnt them as a kid are things others have to learn right now
>>35389648
how do i get cool stories?
>>35389655
>What you say doesn't really mean jack shit
except most of the time people have interesting things to say
no one wants to hear about how i spent my weekend playing videogames
they want exciting/fun/interesting stories.
>>35389669
>Being interested
would someone talk to some random guy about their life/interests
or talk to someone who can contribute fun stories to share
>Long term: Do something cool with your life.
something cool like what?
>>35389804
Most autistic post of the day
>>35389804
>My job is rather complicated. It's better if I don't tell you.
>>35389690
what if you can't think of any comments?
>>35389859
>out with bros
what if you have no bros? where do you go?
don't get invited to parties or social events, and i don't have a gym
>>35389921
If a story is cool or not is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT based on HOW YOU TELL IT
THERE IS NOTHING ELSE
EVEN THE MOST MUNDANE SHIT CAN BE FUN
>>35389804
You will die alone dude
The most fundamental desire every human being you will come across has is the desire to be appreciated.
Becoming socially gifted is mostly a process of increasing the apparent worth of your appreciation (by giving the impression that you are confident and that your shit is more or less together) and then letting people have it. The rest of the social stuff builds on that foundation of being the pusher man pushing the drug that everybody is subconsciously addicted to.
But to answer your question more specifically, OP, you avoid that by introducing yourself to whoever's around as soon as you walk in the spot, and just flowing the questions from there.
>>35389804
Thank god this is just a troll post
>>35389915
Wow, you're making some very uninformed assumptions.
You will never be free aslong as you continue to adher to these social-engineering alghorithims.
You talk about how thinking about yourself is a bad thing - and how you should invest all of your energy into the group. But for what purpose? to draw attention to yourself. To make yourself likable. It's selfish, unauthentic and disgenuine.
>>35389938
jusat say something like "the holocaust never really happened"
>>35389804
Fucking laughed. Good one
>>35389945
i spent my weekend, like all weekends, browsing 4chan and watching tv shows/movies
how can i make that into a fun story?
whereas others have actual stories of fun things that happened to them or a friend of theirs.
Do you think that girl in the OP would have any concerns over being interesting at parties?
Nope. Because everyone will instantly value her due to her exuberant physical appearance.
Looks matter.
Lift, Exfoliate and Moisturise.
>>35389992
What do you do then? You go to parties and enjoy hanging out maybe? Most people lurking this thread probably don't enjoy it, don't find it comfortable, and only want to be there because they want to be normal.
If you're so amazingly non-broken in the mind unlike the rest of the people here what exactly are we supposed to do? I mean, we're fucking near hopeless since we're asking for advice on an image board which may have contributed to our being fucked up anyways. We're trying but we're fucking lost.
>>35389581
Go up to people that seem cool and introduce yourself and say you only know 1 guy at the party, if they seem open to you just start talking about the party and asking questions. Ask about their personal lives, what they do etc.., don't make it seem like an interrogation either. It's NYE so you have an easy topic right there, two in fact, "how was your year?" and "any resolutions?", maybe you can tell them about something crazy that happened to you on another NYE, or maybe you can ask them what they did for xmas.
>>35390093
Adding to this, think of how you would react if a stranger started talking to your group of friends at a party, you would be nice to him right? that's exactly how people will act towards you
>have no friends
>no parties to go to
>spending the week at home
>doing nothing
h-how do i make myself not seem like a loser when asked what i did over the holidays?
>tfw never been out on new years
;_;
>>35389804
"Dude, go talk this guy. He's fucking nuts"
>>35390057
sounds like you just need to improve your life on all fronts.
>>35390057
You can always make something up
>>35390143
stop being a loser?
jesus I hope you at least lift.
You would be nice to them yes, out of common courtesy. That doesn't mean anyone will respect them or give a shit about them after they've gone.
>>35390178
yes, but how
>>35390215
yes i lift
how do i stop being a loser?
>>35389581
I generally start by not urinating for awhile and then I unzip my pants and bring down my tighty whities to reveal my incredibly small penis, at which point I start to urinate into my face orifice.
Never fails to draw a crowd.
>>35389741
>watch RSD in field videos
God this takes me back to the good old days when I was 18. This shit right here helped me lose my virginity and get a gf. These things made me relentlessly approach chicks at clubs lol
>>35390077
Are you the poster of >>35389655 ?
Strange how one minute you were giving advice, preaching it as gospel, but next minute you're confessing how desperate and hopeless you are.
>>35389585
Kek thread.
It really depends on the people. Some parties just gave groups of people that hang together and don't want anyone else joining. Those are bullshit and you might as well leave those.
>>35389595
God, anyone have that post screencappd? Pleasem
>how do i into social interaction?
Interact socially. Embarrass yourself. Adjust accordingly. Repeat.
>>35389804
keked heartily
>>35389581
get hobbies and make yourself interesting so you have stuff to talk about.
>>35389921
>how to get good stories
Join the military. You won't be an autist and you have the coolest stories. Don't join the navy though.
>>35390238
these things are all easier said than done.
if you have interests, pursue them. if you don't, develop them. if you don't want to do that, than you are probably super depressed (you are probably super depressed, I know I was when I was just browsing 4chan all the time).
if you're super depressed get a therapist and get on medication. I reccomend some sort of spiritual practice also but i know herpderp gay.
since you're asking, i assume you at least have some interest in improving your life. but it isn't easy and there is no "end goal", like lifting it's a never-ending process. My life still kinda sucks, but is getting marginally better.
i think most people are scared of change. even if its change for the better. i was watching some self help video and the guy made a great point: you have to be willing to give up everything you have at any point. if your job is making you miserable, and you aren't willing to leave it, you are fucking yourself over in the long run. etc.
I'm a big believer on "stripping away" everything that isn't serving you in life. I got rid of all my social media (time goblins), stopped watching porn for the most part and stopped spending time with loser friends who bring me down. started meditating and stretching more and going on tinder dates.
feelsokayman.jpg
i would reccomend starting by going into your terminal and blocking your machine from even being able to access 4chan or porn or any of that shit. this place is cancer
>>35390250
different posters
I posted >>35390077
>>35390215
i can't stand people lilke one.
if we could easily stop being losers at the drop of a dime, we wouldn't be here having this discussion and /r9k/ wouldn't exist.
>>35390245
lol RSD videos and the right attitude will have you in the club tryna fuck
>tfw asked someone at the gym if they wanted to see a movie with me today
>he said yes
>>35390363
>>35390360
well this is also me, so I hope that helps. Think that summarizes most of the advice i've gotten over the years.
>>35390077
never give up anon
>hurr durr just go to parties
and if you dont know of any or your friends are whipped?
>>35389804
I would laugh at you as I'm chugging a beer and OHPing a girl at the same time
>>35389581
take some shots with a few people, be social, talk to people. remember, these people don't know how autistic you are, the best thing to do is to not let them.
hope everything works
>just go out
you have no fucking idea what its like to be mid 20s or early 30s
noone wants to do anything, it fucking blows
>>35390385
Are you gay?
Is he gay?
Am I gay?
>>35390508
I'm gay I guess and he's straight but we always chat at the gym.
You're probably gay though since you responded.
I go to university across the country in a very lively city and a great night life. However, I have not talked to anyone since I have been here. I only leave my apartment to buy groceries and the occasional orange juice. I rarely attend classes and just study from the textbook. The only person I have talked to is my bank advisor in setting up my new VISA card. Sometimes when I am in line at the grocery waiting to order some food some people randomly make remarks to me or try to say something to me and I just freeze up and make agreeing noises and say very little like "heh yeah" or "I don't know". I think there is something wrong with me. I am going to see a therapist on January 5th to discuss the issues I have but do you guys think I am past the point of no return?
>>35389804
>Tell Stacy I'm already infatuated with the beautiful night we're having
Thank you, /fit/.
>>35390506
its true. my only friends who ever want to do shit are like early 20s and I'm not trying to go to college parties (even though the girls are ace).
i need some wingmen to Eifel tower chicks w no homo
>>35389581
get drunk, when your drunk your confidence is limitless and you'll end up speaking to anyone you want.
>be me, focused on making gains
>fed up with girls and the games they play
fuck women.
at least there is no drama when I go to the gym. I am going to better myself, and im not going to let some cunt ruin that.
>>35390539
no, there is no PTPONR. good on you for seeing a therapist. as long as you're focused on improving a little (in some way) every day, take pleasure in that.
its all about the process. everything is practice. get them life gains bro you're going to make it
>>35389804
fucking autist, dont do this
>>35390519
>turning out your gym bro
>>35390558
don't get too jaded bro.
>>35390539
>do you guys think I am past the point of no return?
No. Try joining a club or some group activity
i've personally found that i just need to feel like i'm there to entertain myself and not anything else and fun just starts happening. sadly i can't get into that mentality at will yet and anytime i'm in a social situation it could go either way.
>>35390519
there is a dude at my gym that's into me. i don't know how to react. tell me o wise homo-anon what i should do.
he's bae af. no homo. for now.
>>35390558
you're wasting time, dude. just learn how to, uh, manage the female instead of ignoring it. it won't seize to exist and one day you'll have to face it again. and if you ignore it for too long you'll just want to kick your ass for not knowing how to have a successful relationship.
>>35389581
It's hard.. especially with booze. I just finished my first term at state school and the first party I went to all I did was go up to girls that weren't completely distracted and started up conversation. Rest of the night I had this cute ass asian all over me.. ended up bringing her to my place.
If you don't want to be that guy in the corner then DONT BE THAT GUY!
>>35390607
no really
what do I have to gain by chasing girls that just fuck with you emotionally, and financially.
really, what do I gain?
>>35390608
why?
>>35389741
>watch RSD in field videos and see that these guys are literally just spewing nonsense and most importantly ENJOYING THEMSELVES
i want to believe but i really want to say that the main reasons they have such success is because
1. they aren't by any means ugly
2. they are all at least 5'9 5'10
3. they are white
>>35390620
Find the girls who don't do that. Protip: they're not in clubs.
>>35389581
If you were going to be "that guy" you would not be here asking. You can't become something you are not. "Those guys" are born that way and live interesting, crazy lives since the moment they are born. You and me are dumb nerds hanging out in a taiwanese forum about waifus.
>>35389804
>Tell Stacy I'm already infatuated with the beautiful night we're having
Sorry baby, I only dance with the music.
>>35390593
Excuse me?
>>35390612
How do you know he is into you, has he actually said anything? If you're not actually attracted to him or men just tell him thanks for the compliments. It just means them compliments will help you with further gains as you got a distant admirer.
>>35390641
and where do I find this fabled girl that is not a drama queen?
have a combination of attractiveness and charisma, works every time for me
>>35390641
Not the guy you are talking to but I find that every time I get involved with a girl, things become awful. Grades drop, depression kicks in and thoughts of worthlessness. Before I was bitter and blamed the girls but now I just blame myself. I think some people were just never meant to have relationships. I agree with the sentiment that for some people, it is better to just be alone.
>inb4 /r9k/
>all this butthurt
Social gains, much like fitness gains, involve struggle and pain. You are going to embarass yourselves and you will feel like more of a loser than ever before. You are the social equivalent of the fatass who ate nothing but shit and sat on his as for the first 25 years of his life.
>just go out and interact with people.
Don't get mad when you hear this, this is just the first step. What do you tell a fatass that wants to start exercising? Just get up and walk. Think back to when you first started lifting. You started with the basics. Simple exercises that taught you proper form and how to structure your routine. Then you took those lessons and moved on to more advanced routines, added a diet plan, and learned how to let your body recover.
The concept for social health are very similar, you start by going out and talking to people. Ask questions, try small talk, and endure the discomfort. Eventually, you start picking up on social cues and desire more fulfilling interaction. So you move on to more structured social environments. Trivia nights at bars or bookstores, simple athletic leagues, volunteer work, etc.
It's going to be uncomfortable and embarrassing, guaranteed. So was getting fit
>>35390648
What a load of shit. Did you tell yourself that defeatist propaganda till you believed it?
I was a 130lb nobody when I graduated high school, few friends, broken home since my mom died when I was 8. I was the ultimate beta, knew nothing outside of being on the computer (which was an escape tool then).
Now, I've changed that shit had gf's, slept with attractive women, sociable, still heavily play computer and do other shit I used to do. I'm by no means interesting. Just change yourself, and no it's not easier said then done.
>>35390620
if that's what you're chasing, that's what you get. maybe you're just bad at reading people? if you think every woman is like this, you're being childish.
no offense
>>35390702
reading people? how am I supposed to assume that a girl is a good person?
do you know what deception is? a lot of people are good at hiding who they really are as a person.
>>35390648
this is such bullshit. this person is just so bitter that they want everyone to wallow at their level forever. ignore this emotional gains gobblin
>>35390093
This.
A couple of simple questions to get a conversation running for at least 10 minutes.
>Why are you here/how do you know the host?
Do you know that guy too? Talk about him. Any funny annecdote or whatever you have about him?
>Where do you live?
Do you know where he lives? Been there yourself? Heard anything about it? Mention it. Ask if he likes it there.
>How did you get here?
Anything funny happened on the way there? Got lost? Lots of traffic? Saw something interesting on the way? Mention it.
>Where do you work/study?
Same principle. If you know anything about it, mention it, no matter how dumb. Maybe ask for his opinion. Is it true that ...?
Hopefully he will reciprocate and ask you about the topics you brought up. They're foolproof because they're extremely impersonal, so even if you're incredibly uninteresting, you can still talk about them. Even if you're unemployed you can talk about what searching for a job is like or whatever.
Then when you're done find another smallish group of people with not too many women and repeat.
>>35390726
Welcome to the lottery of dating. You better hope you find out about a girl within weeks, months, to a year tops. People really are great at this.
>>35390672
Libraries, board games meetups, studying and mostly ignoring other people.
They're out there but not very visible. Look for the ones who don't use tons of social media.
>>35390699
Hey. I have a gf, friends, a job, lift weights, all the above. Still not that guy. You aren't either. People are just different. If you have to overthink it you are not that guy. Simple as that.
>>35390753
and how do i get these girls to like me instead of Chad?
>>35390753
im done school.
no, im not using online dating. fuck that, I dont like catfishing.
and meeting people without friends is seemingly impossible.
I guess if you dont meet someone by a certain date you are fucked anyways. that's ok, if a relationship is out of the question at least I can have some no strings attached fun.
>>35390648
lmao that self-condemnation. don't be so hard on yourself, man.
it's true that it's hard to become the life of the party when your actions are constantly coloured by your past but change is possible. if it wasn't all of existence would not have happened.
it's a long path to walk but simply denying that there is anything to be done because you feel overwhealmed by the task is not the right way.
>>35390665
he's been complimenting me and just always comes to me and strikes up a conversation being kinda flirty. alse we've kinda become lifting bros lately. he's nice and really knowledgeable but i just want to be friends with him nothing more.
>>35390726
jesus christ, I guarantee you that the world is not just populated by psychopathic women. you're projecting super mega hard dude. lots of people have healthy relationships, and the fact that you have had a bad run may have more to do with YOU than with women as a species.
or maybe it's just bad luck. either way, do what you have to do.
>>35390726
You've got a long way to go before you start worrying about whether or not a girl is being genuine.
Start by seeing how many 10+ minute conversations you can have in a day, then a week, then increase the limit to 15+ minutes, etc.
There's no magic formula to reading people, it's a skill learned through experience
>>35390741
Whatever you say. You are still here.
>>35390360
>if your job is making you miserable, and you aren't willing to leave it, you are fucking yourself over in the long run. etc.
bruh i really fel you on this part. i really hate my job.... never work for walgreens pharmacy or walgreens at all.
but because of certain circumstances, i need the money that im getting paid (a few dollars above minimum wage) and i feel like im stuck... i want to put in my 2 weeks so bad, but i can't.
>>35390779
Chad doesn't notice these girls just like he doesn't notice you.
>>35390238
You might laugh, but become a 'yes man'
If someone invites you to do shit with them, just go for it. If you're in uni, don't just spend all your time in your dorm, classroom, and cafeteria. Hang out with the people on your floor, hangout with your classmates, especially the ones in your major.
Even if they're going to buy food or go to the store, you don't have to spend money if you want to preserve your gains/money, and just enjoy their company.
>not wearing a cutoff and bandana and doing your best Dom impression
Dom is over the top, but since you're an autist, you'll be afraid to go that far, meaning you'll settle halfway and act normie
or at least that's what I did.
also have 2 shots' worth of alcohol as soon as you get there to loosen you up then have about 1 drink/hour. don't get black out drunk, but if you do, make sure it's later in the night. I had a party last week and some fuckhead was vomiting an hour in and hogging a bathroom. don't be that guy
>>35389690
don't listen to this fag
beta af
>>35390779
Get chad to like you
>>35390792
Either be direct and just say that you're just friends and you're not interested or wait until he makes an advance for you so you can turn him down that way.
>>35390781
meetup.com
there's tons of interests there to find people by. go to ones you're interested and you'll usually click with people since you're on the same wavelength anyway.
>>35390794
see, this is why I dont give a shit about girls anymore
I could waste all that time chasing a unicorn, or I could spend all that time in the gym and make actual progress, individually.
im done with the drama and games. also, why do guys have to jump through hoops for girls? I mean, girls want dick too dont they? yet guys are the ones that have to do all this shit as if they are a prize to be won.
it's a joke.
>>35390778
People personalities change based off of their place in life, experiences, and etc. Saying someone isn't that "guy" at a certain time doesn't mean he can't or won't be. The one's who never had to think about it are the ones who grew up in that environment with those experiences so it comes more naturally. Whereas, others have to work for it... social gains are a skill.. hell everything is a skill. If you never spent time socializing what makes you think you will be good at it?
>>35389804
The number of people who thought this post could be serious is far more alarming than the content itself.
god damn it /fit.
>>35390698
This
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>>35389581
>How the fuck do you act interesting at parties, brehs?
Spend more time in your life doing something other than obsessing over females and maybe you'll have something interesting to say in social situations without having to try to fake it.
>>35390809
>>If someone invites you to do shit with them, just go for it
no one invites me to do shit with them though
>>35390832
>this is why I dont give a shit about girls anymore
>proceeds to explain why he gives a shit aboit girls
Bruh...
Actions, not words
>>35389581
Socialize as much as you can in your day to day life.
You'll get better at it.
Also ask people about themselves and lead and active an interesting life.
>>35390834
I think some people are different. I am not saying that social gains cannot be made on the long run. I had the hardest time but when I left high school I started lifting weights and socializing more. I have had 4 long term relationships and a lot of non commited relationships. Nowadays I work and social life is becoming stagnant. My natural instinct is to keep to myself and I can spend days drawing on photoshop and working out. However I force myself to see friends or go out. It's like everything else. But for me its not natural. I can see myself becoming a shut in in a minute.
>tfw leeching social gains from best friend
>tfw we help a party at our house and I was the hotshit with all the drugs and gains
>at least 4 girls wanted the dick
>didn't make the move because pussy/no room to fuck
>>35390821
yes, i guess that's the best course of action.
thanks, anon.
>>35389804
I know this is a joke post but I'm replying so the genuine autists reading this don't take it seriously.
>>35390866
well, I need to rationalize my opinion, no?
hey, in a perfect world girls would avoid drama and play no games, and wouldnt fuck around on you. but that isnt how real life works.
on the other hand, if I focus on myself, I can make guaranteed progress and improve myself 100%. but all the time you spend chasing girls that results in nothing, is wasted time.
i'd rather focus on training than trying to "pick up" girls. that is all. maybe I am jaded, but objectively focusing on training/eating well is a far better choice than just trying to pick up girls.
>>35389581
>>35389600
Master race
>>35390634
RSD Todd and Tyler are decently ugly
get as fucked up as possible
this plan also got me 3 felonies so be careful
I suffer from tourettes and it already took some time getting use to going to the gym and making my noises without people looking at me, like running on a treadmill but my hands are up in the air or smacking the back of my neck constantly or every time someone does a grunt I react to it with a need to grunt earlier.
I tried suppressing it once completely during a work out but ended up fainting from forgetting to breath.
I feel it's probably harder to be social at a party unless I'm shitfaced.
>>35390844
are you in uni? Do you have roommates or do you live with your family or what?
>>35390057
Talk about cool new movies you nigger. Start walking around at night, go to a club and start dancing. Fuck senpai, just go grab life by the balls while you still can.
>>35390899
No, if you don't give a fuck then you wouldn't feel the need to rationalize why you don't give a fuck.
You're better off being honest with yourself, accepting that women upset you, then moving on with your life. Eventually you won't even notice how much you don't give a fuck because you won't actually give a fuck
>>35390954
not in uni. live with family
>>35390634
to be fair, they added a short black guy. madison or something? he's much more down to earth and less psycopathic than the others.
he's good looking though. but still.
Tyler is still the best. He openly admits from going to spastic weirdo to cool spastic weirdo who gets chicks. if he can do it, most of us can.
>>35390963
>Talk about cool new movies you nigger
it seems "basic" to talk about consuming media, like tv shows and movies
>go to a club
i've read reviews of clubs in my area, don't want to wait for hours just to be rejected by a bouncer
>>35390899
>well, I need to rationalize my opinion, no?
no u don't
if u dont give a fuck about women then stfu. u dont have to explain urself to anyone. if u seem like an autist to a bunch of nerds on a japanese website, then so be it.
>Always flirt with qt coworker, figure she's just joking around
>Another coworker says she's into me
>I ask her out, she agrees
Wew lads
>>35390634
the biggest pussyslayer i know is a anorexic af guy from some eastern european country. if you know how to be social the immediate physical advertisement you throw out into the world (aka your looks) is secondary.
>>35390899
>I DON'T GIVE A FUCK AND I'M GONNA TELL EVERYONE JUST SO THEY KNOW HOW MUCH OF A FUCK I DON'T GIVE
Sounds to me like you give a fuck, brah
>>35389804
>I only seem to struggle with getting people's numbers and following up
I wonder why
>>35390979
ok, im burnt out cause im tired of dealing with the drama.
at least in the gym, I know I will make progress if I put forth the effort and eat well. with women? you can do absolutely everything and they STILL will fuck around on you.
I dont need to rely on anyone but myself. that's what I realize now.
what to do if you just cba to tell stories/ask questions
>>35390988
It'll be harder in that case. Did you do anything extracurricular growing up, karate/rock-climbing/gymnastics/swimming/sports? You could try looking around your area and taking classes or joining a local club for that. Maybe try something new- I tried out fencing and liked it quite a lot. I even got a chance to meet a couple of olympic fencers(and I live in the middle of nowhere, Idaho). There's tons of things to do out there, you just have to look for it.
>>35389898
No, I need to catch up. So I guess yes I do have something to lose: even more time.
>>35389585
/thread
>>35391055
>i don't give a fuck
>im burnt out because i give a fuck
It's like pottery
>>35389581
See Robert Greene. I've always been socially retarded, but his books answered some important questions. Now I'm way more confident about socializing than before. Highly recommend.
>>35391083
well part of me does care, clearly. but im still tired of all the shit. i'd like to think that all girls aren't the same way, but over time it just becomes more difficult to deal with.
im trying to find a needle in a haystack. one girl that isnt like the masses of instagram viewing, sephora shopping, stupid cunts that are only good for one thing.
>>35391091
second this. I just got 2 of his books for xmas. don't take them totally at face value, because they are bassically guides for psychopaths. fill in the gaps with some more empathetic gurus.
>>35391055
>>35390899
>>35390832
If a bunch of autists on a Peruvian cheesecake fetish forum can pick up on your whiny, obsessive personality via text, then these women who torment you can probably pick up on it through smell alone.
>>35389581
Start looking in the the paper for current events. This also depends on the age of the crowd, if they are older, 30+ you might want to stick more local, if younger 18-25, just read about celebrity affairs. Hang with your friend and casually listen around you, somebody is going to be talking, try to relate and migrate into that topic. It's not going to work if you over think it, you just need to be social and realize there are other people there that don't know many people. Try to find people who are only hanging with one other person of the same sex as you and introduce yourself. Say you feel awkward because you only know one person there and just talk, it isnt that hard if you relax.
>>35391112
The /fit/izen doth protest too much, methinks
>>35391071
thanks for the ideas. didn't do anything growing up. only recently. can't do most sports due to health issues.
i did fencing for about a year in school. it's fun, but i need to find a good club, and there isn't one nearby for adults
i've only started rock climbing this year.. it's something i do want to get better at
>>35389690
Eh. Depends on your air. If you're confident and just kinda hang out maybe try being the music guy. Play top 40 shit and some indie radio shit and just kinda hang out and drink beer and focus on that, that's what I do and I just dress nicely with clothes that accentuate my physique without being too douchey and have good hygiene and girls literally won't leave me alone. That or I just spend it goofing around with my bro and the fact that I have an air of confidence and am genuinely having fun make others like me and want to join in. Don't be afraid, and don't be a dick. Honestly I really feel like it all just comes down to your attitude, if you're there TRYING to come off a certain way, people will feel that and be off put by it. Just have fun and don't be a dick. That's honestly the whole deal.
>>35391139
im whiny? well this is an internet forum, im just saying how I feel. women dont torment me, but I am kinda bored dealing with them.
I mean, what is the reward for putting up with them? sex a few times a week? is that worth the money, effort, and time you waste?
I dont think so. at least if I focus on myself I can make definite gains, whereas if you dump a lot of time into a girl, what is stopping her from cheating on you?
look at all these threads with people moping after losing 4-5 year relationships. is that worth it?
>>35391139
kek rekt
>>35391112
You'll never be happy with dumb little rules like "lol bitch shops at Sephora".
You're like the people who see a fit guy and think "he must be a douche",
>>35390883
>However I force myself to see friends or go out. It's like everything else. But for me its not natural. I can see myself becoming a shut in in a minute.
That's pretty normal though when you have a job and responsibilities.
>>35391113
Agreed.
At the end of The 48 Laws of Power, Greene basically said that you ultimately have to go your own way, after having learned everything you can from the establishment. That includes him.
>>35391179
You have a garbage attitude and an immature one at that. Nobody makes gains thinking he world owes them shit. Truth is most people have good and bad, it's your own fucking problem if all you wanna do is see the bad, Pham.
>>35391201
i'd like an interesting girl that is worth hanging around for more than what is between her legs.
is that asking too much?
>>35391179
>i dont give a fuck
>complains about women in 5 seperate posts
>im whiny?
>proceeds to whine about women again
This is some high level shit right here
>>35389581
get a job as a waiter you're forced to be social
>>35391227
One of my friends read that book a few years ago. We all still hang around him occasionally but nobody fucking likes him anymore. He's got a great physique but hates lifting and has a shitty retail job and a cunt for a girlfriend who actively tried to fuck his friends and he doesn't even know cause nobody cares about him enough to tell him. But hey good thing he knows the 48 laws of making everyone think you're a faggot
>>35391176
Focus on the rock climbing, if you say fencing youre probably going to end up leaving with a couple guys phone numbers.
>consume alcohol
>suddenly best friends with everyone
That's how I do it
>>35391261
In all seriousness, this is a good idea.
I mean, he'll eventually be fired. But that's not a bad lesson in itself
>>35391247
If you constantly make pre-judgements about every girl based on stupid stereotypes, then yes. Every human being is different, once you stop being so hateful and full of resentment you'll be happy, until then, keep being sad, fag.
so how do you make social gains with no friends?
it's like trying to work your muscles with no weights. go out? and do what?
>>35389804
>Tell Stacy I'm already infatuated with the beautiful night we're having
Fucking autists.
>>35391281
Under rated post
>>35391296
>it's like trying to work your muscles with no weights
Perfect start for a fatass who's never worked out a day in his life
>>35391281
ok but have u ever gotten laid because of it? also how tall are u?
>>35389581
>How the fuck do you act interesting at parties, brehs?
I don't go.
>>35391308
wouldnt the best way to make social gains to get in great shape physically?
I know for a fact that people are way nicer to me ever since I got in shape, and feel that things will get even better as I improve more.
men and women are superficial, after all. what good is personality when the first shit test from everyone, is looks?
I got a qt pi half Vietnamese girl's number today. What do now guys? Thinking about inviting her to drinks for new years
>>35391350
>thinking this is good advice
>>35389804
Autistic as fuck
>NYE is approaching
>>35391380
Are you that incapable? You need a checklist?
>>35390360
I needed to hear this today. I've felt off all day today, and started going inward with the pity-party crap. I hate my job, and I needed to read what you wrote. I don't know why some of us avoid change so much, but I'm tired of it.
Thanks, man, and know that you changed someone's mind.
>>35391391
>gonna hit the gym on NYE then go home to sleep
sure is fun when your friends all abandon you cause of girls
>>35391371
Some of the funniest and nicest people Ive met have been hamplanets. Honestly your physical shape doesnt matter at all, I think landwhales are more social because they know they are disgusting and work on their people skills better. This doesnt apply for female moons, they are just bitter. The guys though are fucking fun as shit for the most part.
>>35391371
>wouldnt the best way to make social gains to get in great shape physically
This is /fit/, it's already assumed the anon has taken this step. That's why I made the comparison. However, being fit doesn't cure everything. We've all seen enough awkward fit guys at the gym to know this.
>>35391410
>your physical shape doesnt matter at all
fuck off. girls used to ignore me and now they flirt SOLELY because im in better shape.
that is not a coincidence. this is in situations without me saying a thing, even. like getting coffee.
>>35391380
Text tonight:
Drinks on New Years Eve, you in?
Pick the place, invite a few friends, have fun
>>35391392
Pretty much. I always fuck up somewhere
>>35391381
It's not advice. He asked and I replied.
>>35390698
That's a great analogy, however for lifting we have "Starting Strength".
What do we have for social gains?
>>35391420
Just gonna go ahead and agree 100% with this. Though I will say other guys who aren't in shape treat me like dirt now. Girls and fit guys love me since I got fit.
>>35391410
OP wasnt asking how to talk to grills, he was asking how to be more social. If your people skills suck it doesnt matter what kind of shape youre in. Once people figure out that youre retarded and cant even form a complete sentence without saying Um Um Um they will think youre the typical gymbro. Good luck finding a long term relationship based strictly off your looks.
>>35391448
Go outside
Talk to people
Evaluate
Adjust
Repeat
See
>>35390794
>>35391448
Growing up with a male role model and not being raised by a TV
>>35390057
steal some stories form 4chinz and pretend they are our own
>>35389581
I learned how to do an Swedish accent quite well and always pretend to be a foreign exchange student. You won't believe the female attention you get
>>35391488
This.
Best way is to practice with little kids at a park. Just sit on a bench and have a bag of candy and have the kids come over. Usually calling one over at a time works, tell them about your van and all the cool stuff inside. Once you are done with one kid they will go tell their friends and you will have them lining up to practice your people skills
>>35391488
>Talk to people
talk to who? who wants to talk to random strangers?
>>35389581
My advice will get lost with the others but you should read "How to make friends and influence people". Written in the 30's (at least a believe so) as a guide for businessmen or entrepreneurs in networking. Much of it still applies since human nature has yet to change, and the book has come as a highly recommended guide for dealing with people from numerous sources
>>35391488
>go to the gym
>pick heavy things
>put them back down
>evaluate
>adjust
>repeat
That would not be very effective, especially the "evaluation" part. As an inexperienced person, your evaluation will be wrong, leading to wrong conclusions and incorrect adjustments.
That's why we have specialists and books that they write.
>>35389804
this is fucking gold thank you, my sides havent left orbit in a good while
>>35391343
No, but I'm only 6'1"
I have turbo autism around women I want to fuck but I'm pretty chill with everyone else
OP only asked how not to be the guy sitting in a corner all night
>>35389804
>>35389804
>>35390887
What are you homophobic anon?
Jeez just have sex with the guy it's only gay if you are.
>>35391549
>who wants to talk to random strangers
Protip: they're all randomn strangers when you have no friends
>>35389581
I can't even get an invite, anon.
>>35389992
>just b urself bro works for me ;)
>>35389598
This is also a good way to eliminate crazies, especially women. Anyone that starts talking about really personal shit should be avoided.
>>35391671
i mean from their perspective. i'm a random stranger to them. why would they want to talk to me
the post linked mentioned trying to speak to someone for 10 minutes. why would anyone stick around for more than 30 seconds?
>>35391598
>specialists and books that they write.
If you need a book, then get one and use it. I'm just posting the clif notes
>>35391700
If you really cannot comprehend why someone would want to talk to a stranger, you probably DO have actual autism.
>>35390335
>tfw no one is interested in talking about diet or lifting shit
>>35391700
Who cares?
This is about you interacting socially, not a strangers opinion of you
>the post linked mentioned trying to speak to someone for 10 minutes. why would anyone stick around for more than 30 seconds?
>the workout says 10 rep, why would anyone rep more than 3
it's all a race against time
if you dont make friends early, it's impossible later. you'll learn this after you turn 25+.
getting older fucking blows. people settle down and noone wants to do anything anymore.
>>35389921
>cool stories
more like how to be the guy who rambles on with the same few shit stories every time he's drunk
>>35391741
>the only people who converse socially are drunks
You sound like someone fun to talk to
>>35391700
>he doesn't know that the average person loves to talk about the!selves at length
>>35389581
Why dont all autist become salesman ?
It teaches you how to work a crowd (many people bring family when making a big purchase)
How to read body language and faces
How to spark random convo ect.
And any salesmanager will teach u this and not assuming u r autostic because everyone js nervous and akward when they start
Also any sales job gives u storys to tell almost weekly so even if u dont fallow sports or have a hobby u have shit to say
>>35391764
what are you even saying
>>35391837
That i judge anon to be unpleasant
>>35391810
>Why don't all autists become salesmen?
Because most of them have more prestigious/better paying jobs?
>>35391854
so you're the guy who tells the same shitty stories every time you're drunk that everybody has already heard at least 12 times but you still keep telling the same shitty stories about your dead guinea-pig or something equally retarded like a dream that you had 5 years ago, and even after somebody mentions that we have heard the story already you keep telling it all the way to the end
it's obnoxious as fuck
>>35391810
v true. that's part of the reason why i took up a contract in sales. after i'm done i want to start my own PT business and eventually start a gym. but i figured i needed to develop my social abilities until i could do that. and so far my job has been taching me everything i hoped it would.
>>35391905
I don't drink, it kill gains.
Did you forget that you're not on /r9k?
how the fuck do you meet people after school
just seems like making new friends without a social circle is impossible.
>>35391919
Like after class or after graduation?
>>35391918
brain damage
>>35389581
Here's a step by step green text guide OP and anybody interested:
> 1. "Pregame" the party (Drink a little beforehand so you show up with a buzz already).
> 2. Find the first person you know who happens to be talking to people you don't know.
> 3. Say hi to this person, small talk for 10-15 seconds, then turn and introduce yourself to the group (Congrats you just made a few new acquaintances).
> 4. Talk for 5 minutes with the group or someone in the group.
> 5. Move to another group and repeat steps 2-5 a few times (Congrats, half the party is familiar with you.
> 6. Bounce between groups, don't stay anywhere too long. Make yourself seem in demand by moving frequently ("Hey I gotta go say hi to my friend, but let's take a shot later").
If you don't know anybody at the party, you can start the process by saying, "Hey, I like your shirt, where'd you get it," to any stranger and then proceeding from there. You did it, you're a social creature now.
Host drink games, everyone will recognize you and you will automatically become the "fun guy" great ice breaker
>>35391931
yes
it just seems like everyone drifts apart and pops out kids. and if you want to be single, you are fucked.
>>35391919
Here's the secret. EVERYBODY fresh out of college feels this way, but NOBODY wants to take the initiative. Pick a social hobby, talk to someone who seems cool a few times, invite them to social activity, repeat. Pretty soon not only will you have a social circle, but you'll be the center of it.
>>35391954
Volunteer work, my friend. I work at a soup kitchen and for Habitat for Humanity. It's great on multiple levels.
>doing something productive for the community
>meet and talk to some very interesting people
>Looks great on a resume
>So easy to get laid that it's almost criminal.
It's easy to interact with the regular volunteers and make friends, habitat usually skews towards people in their 20's and early 30's. The best part, though, is all the people who come in to work off community service. The chick are usually nervous as fuck, so you can really develop a good rapport and play the nice asshole. The guys are pretty chill too.
I sometimes feel bad because I know too many people and and can't hang out with some as much as I'd like.
>>35392028
Since when has working at a soup kitchen made it easy to get laid? Do you fuck the homeless people?
>>35391867
U do understand sales is in every industry ?
Some of the most wealthy people in america started as salesmen
I dont mean pointing at tvs at best buy
I mean fuck even if they just sell cars they should make at least 60-70k with effort (all the neets)
And educated annons can chose their feild i know a guy who sells oil refinary equiptment travels all over central america and the east cost and makes well over 400k a year
But nah a sperg cpa has his prestige maybe it is a better choice...
>>35392045
>the people who come in to work off community service
>>35392023
>talk to someone
who?
why would someone want to talk to a random stranger? would you like it if random people bothered you?
a girl will only not be creeped out if she finds you attractive anyways
>>35391942
See here's where this shit falls short. I am the only non-mormon in Utah, and everyone who has read the "scriptures" has a slight different tone of talking, not to mention no alcohol. Everyone who is talking has to mention thanks to the celestial father or some horseshit whenever the story they tell changes from inconvenience to success.
tldr: How to social gains within a crazy cult?
>>35392077
then give up
>>35392082
Move to Seattle
Or Vancouver
I just drink to the point I start talking shit.
I don't like many people though.
>>35392077
>socially inept
>Makes assumptions about the behavior of strangers.
>>35392077
I think you missed the part where I said find a social hobby. If you sign up for a rec ultimate league, your randomly assigned teammate is not going to be weirded out when you ask if they wanna get drinks after gameday. If you volunteer at a Red Cross event, another volunteer is not going to be weirded out by you talking to them. I did not suggest going on a bus and trying to talk to strangers. But if you don't want to seriously consider advice, then by all means pick up World of Warcraft.
>>35392050
fair enough.
But taking a sales job just for the sake of possibly curing autism is still a horrible idea. Thats the equivalent of basing a career choice on your weakest quality. The successful salesmen that you brought up are almost always the best of he best who had talent from birth. If anon follows your advice hell end up as a Best Buy TV salesman with 99% certainty. Better off working in a field hes actually good at.
