What are the differences between powerlifting and weightlifting?
Which is the best?
>>35369740
Strongman
>>35369740
Powerlifting movements are better to start with imo. Oly lifting is great tho. Most people cross training will do both.
Which is best for aesthetics?
>>35369989
Bodybuilding
>>35369989
Oly lifting
>>35369740
Powerlifting:
Bench press
Deadlift
Squat
Oly:
Clean & jerk
Snatch
Thats the difference. You need better mobility and flexibility aswell as more Explosive power for oly lifting.
>>35369989
both
>comradeship
>it's this thread again
>>35370007
ITP: Oly never squat or deadlift in their training
>>35370026
I was talking about competing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fjRnMS1xbc
Name one powerlifter who weighs 85kg who can complete the same feat as the video above same depth, same speed, same beauty. Everything
Oh wait.
There is none. weightlifting 1000 powerlifting 0
>>35370046
>clean and jerks is not a hybrid between deadlifting and front squatting.
Powerlifters don't even OHP, kek
I swear, there is one autist who recently came to /fit/ who is making these threads to shit on powerlifters.
Maybe because his lifts are so weak despite training for years and he is jealous of anyone who trains powerlifting and surpasses his lifts in months.
Is the collective jelly of fatlifters finally boiling over? Can they no longer stand idly by as weightlifters win gold medals, display inhuman feats of strength and agility, and fuck their wives, all while looking more aesthetic when doing so?
Where do we go from here?
>>35370026
You're an idiot.
why are powerkeks not doing OHP instead of memebench?
You cant cheat ROM-wise in the same retarded way than on the benchpress.
>>35370070
Pretty sure Candito would be able to if he injected roids like the chinese weightlifters do.
>>35370094
>clean and jerks is not a hybrid between deadlifting and front squatting.
Fucking hell. Kill yourself please.
>ITT people who dont know anything about or compete in Weightlifting or Powerlifting debate which is better.
>>35370292
Because when the retards from the olympics started cheating it in the craziest ways possible, they removed it from the official lifts and it became somehow a "tainted" lift.
Powerlifting really should include the press. But I guess that would be too many lifts to train for.
>>35369989
The squat, the bench, and the deadlift are better for building muscle mass than the olympic lifts.
Even bodybuilders do those exercises. Hell, even the weightlifters do those exercises.
>>35370339
Another pic.
They're both shit.
Powerlifting is just about reducing range of motion
While Weightlifting has 0 carry over to absolutly anything else besides the movements.
General Strength training/Strongman are supiror to me.
Though someone would argue the point of being strong at all in modern society so its really just comes down to what makes you happy.
>>35370374
>Weightlifting has zero carry over to anything else
Please do some research, WLing has a lot of carry over to jumping and general explosiveness. That's why so many athletes do the power variations of the classical lifts.
>>35370352
>>35370339
more like a standing incline bench press at that point
>>35370374
It's pretty obvious that you don't lift a lot.
>>35370339
i know this form of cheating but this can easily be regulated
>>35370374
I disagree, they're foundation movements.
>>35370021
where is his triceps?
>>35370702
Yep. It was more of a politics thing if I recall correctly. Had an e-book on the whole history of it but can't seem to find a link right now.
>>35370738
Up in your mom's vaginal opening
>>35370314
>candito isn't on roids
How things change
>>35369740
>he dose not realize all 4 are on roids
>>35370441
Weightlifting has benefits in terms of general neuromuscular control, coordination, mobility but not explosiveness.
Explosiveness is the ability to generate a percentage of total strength over time, that percentage is genetic.
You can increase total overall strength, but not explosiveness.
Less and less modern sports teams use the oly lifts anymore, they are simply popular because explosive athletes happen to be really fucking good at them and so coaches liked using them.
Explosiveness is genetic, that's why they test things like vertical leap. Obv you can get a little bit better at it with training, but nothing substantial.
>>35370094
I always find it funny when people post this pic. You realize that chinks squat would only barely pass in the IPF? It isnt actually that deep, but oly squats look deeper because of where the torso sits.
>>35371424
I think he means as much as the chinese. Still I doubt he could, oly lifting is as much as technique as it is about genetics and roids. I don't think candito has the discipline to do the same fucking movement for hours each day.
>>35371980
>I don't think candito has the discipline to do the same fucking movement for hours each day
>His source of income is doing the same fucking movements for hours every day and posting it on jewtube
>>35371996
No you don't get it. It's different from that, have you ever seen an oly lifter training? Those people have a different kind of discipline, I admire them but normal people could never do it.
>>35371966
Are you fucking retarded? You can see Lu's hamstrings literally resting on his calves
>>35372011
>Those people have a different kind of discipline, I admire them but normal people could never do it.
I think many people could train for a living if it was their job. Just like how many people work crazy hours as lawyers or doctors and have a passion for their job.
>>35372041
And where is his hip crease in relation to the top part of his knee?
>>35372060
>muh lolfed rules
>muh hip crease
that's as low as he can go, his legs have pretty much closed. nobody cares about your sponsored obesity pageant.
>>35372041
>>35372060
exactly lol.
you dont even know how depth is called and yet you have an opinion.
Thats exactly what I meant, because he is upright, it looks deeper but look where his hip crease is.
IPF is hip crease bellow knee, hes at depth but only barely.
>>35371966
>>35372090
He could go lower if he wanted, he'd have to switch up his style though.
That's the whole point. If his feet where closer with more flare, he'd be deeper.
>>35372109
hip crease
>>35370738
not being utilized you fucking tard
>>35372041
>>35372410
lmao halfsquats
olyboos on suicide watch
>not even touching the floor with his ass
Weightlifters, when will they learn
>>35372441
>>35372410
Do you spastics not understand that squats are an accessory training tool for weightlifters?
They train squats at a variety of depths and tempos.
>>35372441
Ilya Ilyin squats this way too, by stopping before you bounce back up it requires a lot more control and power, it is much harder to do
>>35372463
>Do you spastics not understand that squats are an accessory training tool for weightlifters?
>
>They train squats at a variety of depths and tempos.
Yes? I was sarcastic, /fit/ always sucks WL dick since they squat atg, then complain that powerlifters doesn't defile the ground they're squatting on with their butts.
>>35372463
obviously we know this.
You never have butthurt powerlifters posting shit about WL.
I respect WL, i think it's cool.
It's always weak fucking WL kids on here who high bar "atg" like 1.5 plate and think they can talk about squatting(as if cutting depth at ipf versus bouncing out of the bottom makes that big a difference) and post pictures of multiply PLers(most raw PLers arent fat) to make fun of PL.
>>35370702
literally cannot
what is the threshold between too much arch and acceptable
bench is easy to regulate cause as long as ass and head touch the bench its fine(in non-fakefed)
rules for OHP would be arbitrary and pointless
>>35370021
>Tian mirin hard
>>35372547
Lad it's 4 chan. It's not weightlifters making fun of powerlifters it's kids that squat 1 plate high bar arguing against kids that squat 1.5 plates low bar.
>>35372558
>>bench is easy to regulate cause as long as ass and head touch the bench its fine(in non-fakefed)
>
>rules for OHP would be arbitrary and pointless
Agreed. Rule bending is in every sport(sharks suits in swimming, people putting back the bar with their hands back in the days in pole vault etc) and while some of the extreme bench arches look silly, it's an easy lift to regulate and OHP would amount to a very small amount of the total. You would have people squatting and deadlifting 300+ and pressing like 120-130. No one would give a shit about OHP.
>>35372547
>>35372540
Both sides of the argument are probably coming from dipshits who train neither PL or WL.
Anyone with sense/not shitposting knows that powerlifters squat to the depth they compete with. WL is more complicated, the squat is variously used to build speed and strength in different ranges of motion.
>>35371951
Shut the fuck up. After a couple months, my vert went from 50 to 70 after training the movements.
>>35371951
>Obv you can get a little bit better at it with training, but nothing substantial.
Not everything Rip says is true.
>>35371951
There's like a basis in truth for Rip saying this. If you push him about the issue he'd still concede that what he means is a "snap shot" of an athlete at a given point in time. Rip is more than happy to say that a lighter athlete often has a higher vert than the same athlete with a bit of bulk and that he includes cleans to keep the vert inline with the increase in lean mass on SS.
>>35372626
>powerlifters squat to the depth they compete with
Nah, there are different styles. So bouncing out of the hole for example. And some judges are more forgiving than others. AND squatting full depth has its own benefits. A lot of people on here will criticise full rom training for pl but they also have shit lifts. So even if you don't do something like bounce it's better to think of partial squatting as a technique for PRs rather than a training paradigm
>>35369989
Depends, if you value traps and legs over lats and chest, then go for weightlifting.
Are you losers still doing these meme lifts? I started crossfit a year ago and haven't looked back. I'm in bettet shape than ever and my strength is functional. And need I mention the mad pussy I pull?
Why aren't diddlies in oly lifting?
You can't meme your way through them like squats or bench and it'll be the heaviest weight moved.
>>35376276
>can't meme your way through them
What is sumo then?
>>35376288
Low bar wide-stance squatting with the bar in your hands.
Honestly I haven't tried sumo so don't know if it gives any advantage at all.
>>35376302
For most people its negligible, but it depends heavily on your proportions and hip morphology.
>>35369740
that is the gayest thing i have seen in my life and you should feel ashamed for posting it
>>35370738
Saving them for doing dips with 100kg at 77 bodyweight.
>>35369740
>tattoos
>natty
Choose one.
