>Girls look at me, but generally dont give a second look
>never really had a girl randomly smile at me
>built a shell, basically ignoring females as a whole, feeling undesirable
>signed up to a gym nearby
>It's in the gay part of town, so prob 95% homos
>catch guys lookin at me through mirrors, some will even smirk when we make eye contact
>couple of them even tried to spark conversation asking for my routine and how I got so big.
Breh, if only I was gay, life would be on ez mode...
>Girls look at me, but generally dont give a second look
>never really had a girl randomly smile at me
I know this feel all too well.
>be severely underweight
>start lifting
>gain weight
>girls actually look at you
>strike up random conversations with me
>tfw im too autistic to respond because my last girlfriend fucked up my ego
>tfw i could probably have some random sex if i put some effort to it
>tfw i dont care anymore
>>35347209
I'm just getting past the autism bro. You will too. We're all gonna make it.
>>35347209
only you are holding you back
>>35347152
Hey dumb fuck ever think girls are checking you out when you aren't realising it?
When you check out girls you aren't doing it in plain obvious view of them eyeing them down
>>35347334
I've been told that when someone looks at you, it's because they want to look at you. They do it because you're either incredibly ugly (disfigured) or alright looking.
>>35347152
>girls look at me, but generally don't give me a second look
>They never stopped looking the first time
>>35347152
>>35347159
Try smiling at them first. If none smile back then you know you're a bitchmo. Try pulling the first move, jesus fuck.
>>35347368
>smiling towards women
>implying that isnt beta as fuck
>implying any women but maybe your mother or grandma deserve to see you smiling
>>35347419
This is true, I.smile all the time, only ever get laid maybe once a week, beta as fuck
>>35347427
>1 a week
bruh. im at once every 5 years atm
>tfw unconsciously walk like I'm the shit and people stare
>tfw transitional lens glasses make me extra douchy
>>35347419
By smiling, I meant giving them the alpha smirk.
Which you would know if you were actually alpha.
>>35347152
>built a shell, basically ignoring females as a whole, feeling undesirable
This feel, lol actually lost track of a few girls that were into me because of that shit
How to fight social anxiety? I've managed to make some gains in socialization area, but I still feel very anxious.
Does it get better with more exposure to social event?
>>35347152
>tfw just don't give fuck who's looking at who, as I've come to realize that I don't give a shit about awkward casual sex and don't need the constant acknowledgement any longer.
>>35347472
working towards this, Monkmode is best mode
STOP LOOKING AT PORN
ONLY MASTURBATE 1 - 2 TIMES A WEEK
DONT VISIT NSFW BOARDS ON 4CHAN ANYMORE THEY'RE USELESS
START SMILING ALL THE TIME
YOU'LL LITERALLY START FEELING CONFIDENT AS FUCK
COMBINE THIS WITH LIFTING
you're gonna make it brah
>>35347499
You're screaming but it's true
>>35347517
I'm screaming cause yeah it's true, not looking at porn and smiling all the time got me out of my moody, depressed, chemically imbalanced rut. Stopped doing calisthenics and actually started going to the fucking gym, everything improved, finally got with my qt3.14 after a year of bullshit between us.
>>35347538
what did dropping bodyweight have to do with that
>>35347570
If you want to get big lift. You can do otter mode with calisthenics
>>35347152
>dont give a second look
That's what happens when your body draws attention, but your face is no good.
Sorry.
>>35347499
>"I´m on the 2nd week of no-fap"
>>35347499
smiling is pointless if you arent attractive
and how can you smile if you are lonely?
OP read this shit. Found it pretty useful.
http://thoughtcatalog.com/tucker-max/2015/10/guys-heres-what-its-actually-like-to-be-a-woman/
>>35347604
seems awfully limiting to only focus on looks
i tend to be more impressed with the feats of bodyweight/gymnastic practitioners than pure bodybuilding
>>35347629
>tl;dr all men are potential rapists
shitty article by a SJW white cuck.
>>35347629
>rape
idk even know how to stick my dick in a girls vagina
kind bs article is this.
im so paranoid when i finally lose my virginity i'll spend 10mins just trying to get the condom on
girl smile at me all the time.
>>35347697
>>35347666
lol you only read the first part. A woman is overly afraid of the possibility of rape, because in the case it happens, her loss is amazingly big (unwanted pregnancy, lack of a caretaker, etc). It's like a defense system of alarm: it's better to have many false positives than ignore a potentially real threat. Besides, the fact that it's very unlikely to happen in our current society doesn't make it less real for her, because it's a deeply rooted system. This age is very safe to live in, but it's almost never been like that. Rape has been a very real possibility for the most part of human history, even during civilization (gengis khan times, Ancient Rome, during wars etch). It's a fear that is exacerbated by the potential loss. Preemptive. That's not the only thing it says in the article tho.
IMO there are good insights if you keep reading.
>>35347499
This.
>>35347152
>gay part of town
You may have got the wrong door, leather club is two blocks down.
>>35347499
>>35347624
Smiling is what weaklings do to cope with strong negative emotions.
>get an F on exam
>smile, promising yourself you'll do better next time
>meanwhile red-faced, holding back tears with your pink fuckboy lips shaking
Also anyone got sauce on pic related by any chance?
>>35347152
have you ever though of becoming gay?
>>35347629
>TL;DR men big strong creepy rapists, please understand woman feelings
And
>The average guy finds the average woman at least somewhat sexually attractive.
>the average woman finds the average man sexually invisible, neutral, disgusting, or repulsive
No other insights at all.
>>35347152
Just a switch to traps man I mean cmon
But what if I can't smile on purpose? And if I do it naturally and make eye contact with someone my face just goes blank. Feels like Kanye, desu, but the autism just sucks
>>35347448
Transitional lens glasses are the dorkiest things that exist. If people stare it's because you look like fucking Poindexter with imaginary lat syndrome.
>>35347499
I'd say stop looking porn if you want, but honestly, masturbating is really good for you dick.
>>35348074
yea my shits all fucked up, glad i moved to contacts
Anyone here fuck around a 5.5/10 for their first time? I think I can pull it off but I feel like I can do better than her. (She's not fat btw).
>>35348107
is getting laid that important that you'll go with a girl you're not even attracted to?
>>35348117
Honestly dude, popping your cherry is a huge weight off a lot of dude's shoulders. Once you've established that you can do it, it becomes one less albatross around your neck.
>>35348117
I feel like my penis would just take over in person. It seems like a solid idea in theory but then I go through her pics on fb and I start to think "mehhh" even though she has solid tits.
Hey /fit/, I'm pretty good at knowing if a girl likes me or not. But there's one thing that has been bothering me and I don't understand at all
What does it mean when a girl rushes to do her hair when she sees you? And also what does it mean when girls twirls and flip their hair? Does that mean they're looking at me in a good way and are becoming self conscious wanting to look good for me? This shit is happening to me so much and it's unnerving me at this point.
>>35347904
>the average woman finds the average man sexually invisible, neutral, disgusting, or repulsive
lol that's not what it says. The whole article helps you understand how a woman tends to think when it comes to dating, so that you know what is the right way to "feed the pony" and not fuck up. All it's saying there is a woman will keep the benefit of the doubt before being attracted. In a glance she can see your status, your attractiveness, your non verbal language, from which she infers if you're worth attraction or not. She does this for a reason, that you only understand if you put yourself in her shoes: she doesn't want to get involved with losers that lessens her position, just like you don't get with a fatty.
>>35348170
so im only valued for my status or looks
fuck them then.
>>35348210
we do the same thing, its only fair
>>35348210
lol you yourself value looks in them. You could say men are as shallow as them. But again looks are just one thing. Read the article again, I've been surprised coz it's not the usual PUA bullshit.
>>35348216
no, we dont
I want someone to do things with, not someone to use financially.
>>35348170
thx now I'm depressed
>>35348170
>if you are worth attraction or not
what makes women think they are entitled to anything?
why do fat girls think they deserve a 10/10?
>>35348260
You shouldn't be. You should use this knowledge given to you to be less afraid, instead. It's all about mind reading and understanding what's the right thing to show. For example, if you dress well, have good physique, show confidence, and do well in your things, you'll give a reason for women to be attracted to you. It should give you confidence because you know you can do things to better your position, and substitute confusion with understanding
>>35348267
It's just how they work. Women are picky, it's how human mating works, she's full of fears that justify her behavior. Read that shit
>>35348296
fears?
you mean entitlement.
these girls arent worth shit. men have to put in all this work and for what, to be rewarded with a vagina that isnt capable of anything but sex? a vapid cunt who is only valued for spreading her legs?
fuck that.
>>35348312
calm down edgelord
>>35348286
good points i'll get a haircut today
ty
>>35348312
Breh with that attitude you won't get anywhere. Trust me I've had a phase of r9k-tier delusion. If you understand what's going on in her mind you can cheat them to thinking you're faithful and interesting and have status to get in their pants. Get sum booty and dump.
>>35347456
>alpha smirk
>not wanting to be a gamma-male
>>35348312
you're acting equally entitled, thinking you're owed a female just because you showed a little interest
>>35348333
so if I understand correctly, I need to:
-get a good education and career
-work on my appearance
-have status
-have money
all for the PRIVILEGE of having a girl put out. a girl that might be dumb as shit, or useless for conversation.
wow. I am so lucky. to think that I only need to do all that for the privilege of being with a female!
so lucky.
>>35348373
Well breh the world isn't made of 1/10 and 10/10s. It all depends on your ambition. If you want a very picky woman, you'll need a lot of shit, because it's just basic economics. In the dating game there isn't only you. If a girl is very pretty, and has a lot going on for her, many will find her desirable. So she CAN be picky, coz she's had lots of potential mates. If you want to settle for less you need a girl who is about your level. Btw, if you are ambitious, raise your value, don't lower your standards.
>>35348334
>tfw Beta Positive
I-I'm going to make it to alpha plus
>>35348411
im going to get better but not for some cunt, im doing it for myself.
there is more to life than bettering myself just for some pussy. that is no way to live.
>>35348312
>put in all this work
Getting facial aesthetics sure was hard work, bros.
They don't even care about being buff. You can be DYEL as fuck but sell sluts your pseudo-status and get pussy.
>r9k thinking they know jack shit about socializing while not getting outside of their rooms.
>>35347334
>When you check out girls you aren't doing it in plain obvious view of them
Actually, I do.
You should too. If you have your shit together, they like it.
>>35347829
probably the same customers on both.
I'm gay but it's the complete oppose. People just look at you like you are trash, never have guys or girl smile at you because homos are shits etc. Anon you are lucky to be straight, you will find the right one eventually and be happy. I'm gonna die alone and with no family because I don't like the opposite sex
>>35347152
>Had a couple of girls mirin me
>only when my shirt is off though
>tfw I spend hundreds of hours a year in the gym and all I have to show for it are the few moments at the beach I get mired
>as a natty I will never look big in a sweater
why do I even lift bros ?
>>35347629
This seems halfway between harmful and helpful to me.
On one hand, it's just another "woe is me"-type of article from its tone. Written like a woman, or a bitchboy. Not very useful unless you really are the kind of dude that needs to eat a knuckle sandwich to understand the alphabet. It's more likely to make you overthink and pedestalize women, which is only going to harm you. They're just people. No more, no less. Treat them as such. Also, women are "not as horny" or "not dirty"? That is a horrible load of shit. Women are horny, dirty, slutty and crave sex, but only let that out with the right person, just like the same person can be loving, caring and nurturing but only with the right person. Most normal people are hilariously horny, but afraid or too dumb to express it. The pressure then builds up inside them and find all sorts of fucked up outlets.
>>35347629
I think there is some truth in this article but honestly it emphasizes too much on the fact that women are afraid of men because they could crush them with their superior speed and strength. In a normal social setting with lots of people around I highly doubt a woman is afraid. If you meet her in a dark alley at night I agree but I doubt that is where you meet most of your women... or I hope so atleast.
>>35348452
s-same f-senpai heh
Does anyone else just suspect they are bad in picking up social cues or look too intimidating?
I, for example, am quite handsome and athletic but my self confidence is really shitty and I usually have a slight grim look on my face. When I hang out in public places with my friends, often time they tell me that this or that girl would look at me but I never catch them my own and often think they are just kidding me.
>>35348903
Operate on the assumption all girls want you unless proven otherwise. Problem fixed.
>>35348903
this. My natural expression looks kind of pissed off, but im not an ugly guy
>>35348572
you should bulk moar lad, fuck abs
>>35348334
>Wanting to be gamma
>being gamma
Choose only 1, my friend. I don't think you understood what gamma meant. If you aren't already, it's overwhelmingly likely you can't become that way.
>>35349014
this. Gamma male is someone like frank yang
>>35348452
>tfw 5'8 so beta+ is the best i can be
I never get smiled/mired by girls too. I always look deadly serious tho so maybe it is normal . something that happens (rare) is that I stare at a girl while I'm passing by and she keeps the stare on until she gives in, but really long, like 5secs or more. The first times I was the one giving in, it also made me giggle like a little girl so I am sure I lost all the atmosphere but I was happy. It does not happen often tho. Thanks for reading my blog
>>35347152
all the women who smile at me are always employees somewhere
just kind of makes u think, am i actually pleasant or are they just doing their job? probably just doing their job
>>35347152
>girls never cared for me, teased often in school when growing up
>lose weight at 16
>at 18 guys offer me money to suck my dick and say I'm hotin the fucking south
>too pussy to pursue dudes despite bi
>now have loving boyfriend
It gets better OP. You may not be gay, but you'll find someone out there that is as into you as you are into them.
>that feel when taking 10 inches
>>35352099
>Thanks for reading my blog
Im ded
>>35349014
Quite very much this.
I completely squandered my youth becoming a professional classical musician, and was going to get my undergrad in philosophy - and mostly do not care at all where I fall into the scheme of things. I think sex is pretty overrated as well. I just want to be left alone. I don't see much use or fun in people, generally speaking, which is not to say I do not value friendship/sex/romance, et cedera.
Most people don't really get me. Alpha+ think I am a mysterious odd funny genius. Alpha- and the Betas think I am just weird. Everyone else is just too dumb to comprehend anything.
You don't get to choose to be a gamma, unless you can choose to not care about all the things a viable financial career can afford you or cultivating a social circle. I wager this is not a choice.
Also, no such thing as a Gamma-. They are just a different breed of beta-. Gamma+ or - is a misnomer. The distinction does not exist. You are only ever just a Gamma. You only ever do not care about social status.(although you see it's uses)
>be me, out of shape
>girls ignore me
>be me now, fit as fuck
>girls pay attention, but im still bitter
how would you get over this? I feel like they only care cause of my body.
>>35355786
You only care about them for their body faggot
>>35355805
I never ignored people cause they were out of shape
sure, I didnt want to fuck them, but I never ignored them period.
>>35347427
this nigga knows
>>35347419
fuckin fedoras think you have to be masculine, stormy and enigmatic to get laid. protip: you don't. Smile more, girls like being around men who can smile confidently. Don't to it all the time, obviously, but you should absolutely smile when the context is deserving
>>35347629
tfw according to this article and people around me I missed my chance to bang this chick because too autismo to understand it, couldnt see someone attracted to me in that way
