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>>35327599
>post ebin blasts edition
>>35334486
In for qts
>>35334486
Okay, so I guess I'll ask this here but does anyone have experience with SARM's at all, for those who don;t already know they are essentially similar to steroids but don't have the negative side effects and very specifically target skeletal muscle and bone growth.
Almost at the end of qt pics I have
>>35334523
Someone talked about it 3 or 4 threads ago
>>35334523
Steroids have a much longer history of use and their long-term side effects are well known, this is not the case with SARMs. If you want to hop on, buy real gear or go home.
why are so many sources bad at telling you when they received payment and shipped? Christ, takes a second to send an email
>>35334526
Damn really. I need to expand my qt collection brb
Steroids are for manlet faggots.
Hows everyones chirstmas blast going?
Any symptoms I should be looking out for high hematocrit?
Using test e that you pinned with a year ago? Thoughts?
I don't know if a vial I punctured a year ago is still going to be sterile inside.
>>35334565
Going to get pinned a gram of test c in a couple days by the doc.
My broke ass needs to come up with the money to pay for my script so I can inject at home weekly.
I can feel that I need it too. Fuck.
>such is life
sup fraud, long time lurker here.
just started a cycle of 250mg test and 600mg deca. first run with deca,would just like to know what to expect? running the deca for 20 weeks, currently on week 2.
also dont tell me to have a 2:1 ratio of test to deca. you dont need any higher test than trt dose. deca cant shut down my test if its exogenous. i also have caber on hand. didnt need it with tren doe. also dont have my ai yet so running nolva to prevent my pubertal gyno from growing.
>>35334605
You are injecting test; you are going to shut down regardless.
>>35334551
Just hit up Insta lel
So may sluts
>>35334544
Hey thanks for the response, I'm not against steroids really I just don't want to hurt myself using them, I know that they can be used safely I just don't know how, also like I said SARMs are essentially an attempt by pharma corps to create steroids without adverse side effects like shrunken testes and swollen prostate etc. Anyone "who has used them" kindly tell me what your experience was thanks.
>>35334614
i know that. i mean for people saying that test should be higher than deca for shutdown reasons. im already shut down so it doesnt matter and test does not have to be higher than deca. prolactin causes deca dick, not the ratio of test to deca
>>35334636
so why not inject more test friend?
>>35334635
I used SARMS once.
My dick flew off.
But other than that pretty good desu Senpai.
Kek
>>35334651
Hardy har, guess I'll check another forum since no one here wants to play nice.
>>35334565
No blasting until February :(
>>35334636
>test should be higher than deca for shutdown reasons
I don't think I have ever seen anyone say that.
>>35334550
Hah, used to disagree, but it really does take just a second, most are going to bug the source again about it within 12 hours anyway.
>>35334654
Lol sorry bro.
It was more of a bump than anything.
Try to find scientific studies.
And search steroids.com and bodybuilding.com.
>>35334646
i just use test for normal bodily functions. i let the other compound do the work. plus i have pubertal gyno and sensitive to estro, so low test is just easy to control. i am planning a future blast of 750 test and probably some halo. will also most likely use deca in every cycle for dat dere joint relief
>>35334654
>going on fraud for advice
try google like everyone else :)
my 1st cycle was Test prop 100mg EOD 6wks
my 2nd cycle is Test En 375mg/Deca 250mg every 3.5 days 12wks
will i make good gains for should i get dbol as well? Dbol will double the cost of my cycle (have to source it locally)
>>35334670
With a clean diet you could pin 500 easily
>>35334660
i have seen quite a few people say that. i suppose its due to a lack of knowledge and because of the myth that test needs to be higher than deca. i purely want the effects of deca, so just interested in what i can expect from 600mg over 20 weeks
>>35334662
That, and he offered me expedited shipping for the Holidays (at a cost) and I agreed. I know the guy is G2G and not a scammer but communication is appreciated
>>35334660
Why first February?
>>35334681
im currently bulking on 4000 cal. gonna up it to 5000 soon. but purely leanish mince, chicken fillets, rice, pasta, fish oil, olive oil, muesli and greek yoghurt. and of course natty peanut butter, so at least one part of me can be natty
>>35334565
Keeping it simple. 250mg test; 500mg tren. Tren will go up periodically. And mast prop is coming in later @ 50mg/day. You?
>>35334686
Hah, I wouldn't offer that, not unless he thinks upgrading to priority is expedited and shouldn't be standard.
>>35334699
Breh. Canned fish/oysters/mussels will give you oil n brotein at the same time.
>>35334699
Again, imo if you have a clean diet 500 would be better, you can keep an ai on hand if you're paranoid
>>35334605
you shouldnt have started your blast without AI on hand thats pants on head retarded
also switch nolva to ralox if your going to run it to prevent to prevent gyno, ralox doesnt mess with your head like nolva does
>>35334523
I'm on week 8 running osta. gained like 10lbs, bf% decreased. healed foot injury real good, prob 98% now. had dislocation and sprains. weights went up fo sho.
>>35334734
thanks senpai. but i dont eat seafood unless its fresh. luckily i live 5min walk from the beach tho so weekends i eat all kinds of seafood
>>35334767
no one thinks running steroids, gh, slin + peps are fine but the least you can do while on them is eat right
>>35334771
Mirin severe back problems
>>35334706
I always keep my cycles relatively simple, I'm not really an advocate of cycles containing several or heavy compounds, unless it is for competing/professional reasons..
Anyways I'm doing 750mg test cyp and finished the cycle off with 50mg anavar 50mg winstrol Ed (last 5 weeks)
Do y'all seriously inject this high up and towards your hips when doing glutes?
>>35334768
i ordered it from the same source who has delivered within 3 days every time. this time he forgot to send it and its now been 2 weeks. if its not here by christmas tho ill just pay more and get it from someone at gym. i really thought i would have my ai by the second pin
>>35334785
Finishing*
>>35334767
>increasing the RISK of heart problems is the same as definitely coating your heart in fat
Fucking logic
>>35334768
Not everyone needs ai if the cycle isn't too heavy :)
I only used it my first cycle and did my last three without any ai use, and without experiencing any estro sides
is it possible that sleeping on my side is causing shoulder injuries?
>>35334786
why you pinning glutes dude? do VG or delts they're so fucking easy
>>35334806
sure but if you dont have it on hand before you start a blast thats pretty dumb senpai
>>35334806
True. But you should still have that shit on hand, at least until you know how prone you are to estro sides.
Fuck my gfs room has some prime shadow game for pics.
>>35334841
Something something priorities something
looking good mate
>>35334841
got any front on pics? no homo.
>>35334826
>>35334835
Ah sorry didn't read he said he's running nolva kek
>>35334841
>gfs room
It's cool bro. You don't have to explain your feminine design choices to us.
>>35334863
The pink really soothes my mangina.
>>35334913
iktfb
>>35334688
Vacation until the 10th and then I have to wait ~2 weeks for gear to arrive. Gf is down for peptides so I might drop cash on that too.
>>35334767
>Layne "Natty" Norton talking shit about gear users
>>35334841
inb4 the pic gets you doxxed somehow
K guys I'm about to make my 3th cycle, 12 weeks and I'm about 75kg
Test E 500mg 12 weeks
Deca 300mg 12 weeks
Dbol 30mg 2 - 10 week
Any suggestions?
>>35334944
Don't run dbol for so long IMO.
>>35334841
You're pretty good looking bro. No homo
>>35334826
Lol I can't really reach my delts. I've done VG and its kinda meh, you do it standing or lying? Quads/glutes have been good to me for 4 years now.
>>35334913
Same reason my walls are covered in boy band posters.
Looking good btw.
>>35334944
How long have you run dbol before? 8 weeks is quite a while for an oral. I might try wks 1-4, and 9-12
>>35334970
Thanks bro
>>35335000
Nice trips.
backstreet boys and nsync. Yuhhh
>>35334841
How old are you? stats/liftng stats before/after starting roids?
>>35334965
>>35335000
1 year ago I ran dbol for 8 weeks... 25mg /day week but idk I kinda feel like thy dbol was ether fake or it wasn't 25mg per pill but instead 5 or 10mg
>>35335065
I'd run it for a bit, and drop it like a fat chick if you get liver or kidney weirdness.
>>35335016
Dat high nose doe.
S-sorry ...
Will he lose his virginity before christmas?
>>35335129
Yeah lol oh well. Can't have it all
You know?
>>35335026
Current stats
6'3
245 lb
This is before.
How much arimidex to use to combat water weight?
Not getting estro sides, but have put on about 8lbs or so of water weight.
with what im using it for, i cannot have that much water weight.
>>35335135
It would take a Christmas Miracle. lol
To be honest, I'd be surprised if he hasn't lost it already.
>>35335166
That's some impressive progress. How long did it take?
What do you think fraud? 6 weeks on 800kcal with 400mg dnp, 30mg eph and 100mcg t3 with 300mg tren-e e4d?
Then a 5+ month clean bulk on 250 test/1000 tren with 20/20 sdrol/msten 6 on, 4 off.
>>35335166
True dat.
I've always been 10/10 in the face tho.
That reminds me, I need to post current body pic.
My stomach fuckin sucks tho my scars have raped my fat distribution.
And then of course my bitch tits.
It's crazy tho, with all the shit wrong with my body, that I have I barely have any dysmorphia.
>>35335181
This is a safe for work board please remove your fetishism picture
Does anyone here use the new fancy GHSR1A agonists on the market?
Mostly curious because I work on a lab studying ghrelin and drug reward. I want to know how the rat feels when I inject him with ghrelin desu.
>>35335187
Thanks!
About a little under 5 years.
>>35335381
If it's new no one here has used it. We old school
>>35335392
I was 220 at 15% when I was 18.
Had a growth spurt since then.
Been sitting at 230 at like 25% for a while.
Just mainly been getting my diet in check and getting my GI right and trying to keep my insulin levels decent.
I'm still mostly natty dyel right now.
>>35335381
What's it supposed to do?
I'll try it. For science.
>>35335599
Triple dubs
>>35335609
I dub so hard
>>35335560
Increase HGH synthesis is why lifters take them I believe.
Some human studies found it increased bone density in obese subjects (in the case of MK-0677 I believe).
Microinjections (of ghrelin and ghrelin agonists) in the animal model, depending on the part of the brain can:
Increase appetite
Increase ethanol consumption
Amplify cocaine induced increases in ethanol consumption
Increase DA synaptogenesis/turnover in various areas of the brain
Can be anxiogenic in high doses
Systemic injections increase DA in the nucleus accumbens, among other things (along with appetite, but not as much). It doesn't cross the BBB very effectively except at certain parts of the hypothalamus, but the various agonists developed seem to be doing fine.
Some of the ghrelin agonists do affect the HPA axis and cortisol levels, though not all. A couple have measurable increases in other growth factors, but I'm less educated in the role those play since my focus is mainly metabolic peptides as they play out in drug reward and addiction.
The receptors may be colocalized with CB1, if you wanna try smoking pot while taking it.
Ghrelin increases in response to acute nicotine in humans as well (if you don't chronically use nicotine). Antagonists can also attenuate nicotine withdrawal induced weight gain.
I like how no one ever answers questions ever or talks about roids, but about how they want to fuck shit and beat people up. Retarded dudebros with no roid knowledge here these days.
This is literally shitposting, titposting and circlejerking. Roid threads turned to shit and you're all faggots. Shrug it off you stupid cunts you know you're worthless.
Virgin here, will becoming a fraud really get me having to take testosterone for the rest of my life?
>>35335599
wow that is a nice phone!
>tfw my god damn body decides to sweat profusely every time it's even moderately warmer than 24C
Fuck sake
>>35335829
Na man
>>35335840
I'm a pool of sweat right now. Fuck deadlifts at 27°c
I'm sweating like a pedophile at a playground
>>35335821
>ignoring all the answered questions
Questions are usually replied to. If we have an actual answer or not is a different question. We aren't cunts that reply with half arsed replies if we don't know for sure. This should inspire anyone who actually wants to find the answer to look for it
>>35335938
I know this fucking feel
I just pinned, I have the god damned aircon on
But the sweat was dripping from my head onto my fucking leg while I pinned
>>35335959
Just the kind of person who totally ignores posts from people like brick which contain an insane amount of information and talks shit
>>35335970
Brick is #1 there are a couple of anons with really good advice and most trips know enough to answer questions that aren't really specific
>>35335842
>>35335845
Yes he most likely will and so will you, are you really this delusional? I juice too but at least I know and accept that I'm most likely fucking upmy hormone levels for life.
195lb 6 feet tall, very low body fat. I'm feeling ready for some gear testing. But I'm a bit tight on cash, not very, and i only wanna test the waters for now. So my question is, would a 10cc 8 week pyramid cycle of test c be a complete waste of time? Or would it kinda give me a feel for things amd noticeable gains?
>>35335993
People like Alb know their shit hands down as well
It's usually just one angry anon who asks a question that's super easy to google getting butt mad because nobody spoon feeds them
>>35335994
[Citation Needed]
Once you provide actual evidence to that statement I'll believe you.
Until then you are wrong.
>>35335994
It completely depends if your production shuts down or not. Tbh there is no way to know untill it's too late
>>35335166
did you start roids from that base? or lift a bit before jumping on?
>>35336010
Well 2bh most questions are opinion based. So the person asking should do the research themselves
>>35336051
>most questions are opinion based
True. "Should I do tren or mast?" isn't really something anyone can answer.
>>35336049
I want to know this too
>>35335166
Please goals teach me the ways to escape DYEL as a tall skelly
>>35335821
Tit post
>>35336072
>"Should I do tren or mast?" isn't really something anyone can answer.
>picking mast over tren, ever
Poor babby, can't handle the sides
That blast of energy when your old school rock and heavy metal songs come on during a hard set.
Shuffle ftw
>>35336151
>I can handle the sides
Proceeds to get depressed because bad emotional sides when you're already miserable kek
I could do low doses of tren no worries now, only concern would be the heat because I already sweat like a bitch.
Never tried mast so I can't compare. I really need to so I know what it's like
I've reached my natural limit strength wise. I'd like to maintain the same weight but cut fat and get really ripped/explosive for MMA. As someone inexperienced with roids, where would I start?
>>35336256
Go to the steroids wiki on reddit. Read about the cutting cycles. See if they suit you
>>35336256
Also do you think you will be drug tested? Make sure the drugs will be undetectable by the time that happens.
Personally I would recommend doing it natty by controlling carbon and water intakes. More hassle but no risk of getting kicked out
>>35336290
Carbon =carb
>>35336290
>>35336298
>controlling carbon and water intakes
2015
Not cycling carbon consumption
Never gonna make it
>>35336310
Technically it's correct
Food contains carbon atoms :^)
>>35336290
At the current semi-professional bracket that I'm in, as well as my age (19 going on 20) testing is not necessarily a concern at this point. I'm pretty efficient at natty cutting for fights but this is long term. I go to school and work full-time so it's extremely difficult to maintain optimum performance with only 6 hours in the gym training a week.
>>35335135
I don't have anything planned before Christmas, I might be doing something on NYE, but that's probably a pipe dream as well. Right now I'm focused on saving to move.
As said above, it'd take a Christmas miracle.
i'm feeling fatigued as FUCK lately on my cut
do I:
1. up the dose (cruise)
2. up the carbs while lowering protons/fats
3. raise protons or fats?
4. take a dieting break.
>>35336318
That's true I suppose, your auto correct mishap turned out alright
But if you aren't consuming pure carbon you're doing something wrong
Carbon cycling is da futcha bruh
>>35336324
You know long term you won't be able to maintain a low body fat and a high muscle mass. Using roids in your case is a short term crutch unless you plan to roid long term
Anyway the best weight loss drug is DNP or an ec stack
>>35336349
ever try stimms?
>>35336349
Could you have CNS fatigue? How often are you working out and for how long? Are you sleeping enough? Are you eating above or below TDEE ?
>>35336351
>TFW only drawing charcoal is available to you
Low quality carbon is torture
>>35336371
caffiene and eph every single day baby
>>35336373
i lift every day for about an hour at a ~300-500 deficit
>>35336373
At least it helps with stomach pains, or whatever it is that charcoal does
>>35336420
Is eating charcoal really a thing? I know that the lid of my compost bin is charcoal because it stops bad smells
>>35336407
Honestly I don't know what exactly to do for you to feel less fatigue. I would say change 1 thing see if it helps. If it does good if it doesn't go back and change a different thing.
I would start by upping carbs and adjusting macro ratios but that's just something that worked for me
>>35336453
>Is eating charcoal really a thing?
I've never looked in to it but apparently it stops vomiting or something?
You can buy it in pharmacy's in tabs. Obviously you don't eat what's left after a fire lel
>I'll just do a few sets of incline bench to help round out this chest workout
>Can hear shoulders making crunching noises
Yeah nope nope nope. Back to flat bench it is!
>>35336479
>I ate all this soot and now I'm vomiting, i thought this was ment to prevent vomiting!?!
Interesting i wonder who takes that sort of pill. I know of some anti sickness/vomiting pills exist but I never read the ingredients of them
RIP shoulders you will be missed. Did you stretch and warm them up properly?
anyone here on a cut during the holidays?
>on test, tren, anavar and dnp
>2000 cals a day, under 100g carbs
I'm living alone with no friends since I just moved to the city so I ain't got any reason to celebrate.
Gonna be fun going to the gym on january at 9% making all the pajeets and NYRfags and regulars who overbulked feel inadequate.
>>35336506
I just googled it and apparently it's good for poisonings
Somehow I feel like I already knew this, it was just something I had heard in passing and never looked in to because it didn't interest me.
>Did you stretch and warm them up properly?
Same as usual. I think it's got more to do with the acutane slowly drying my shit out and forgetting to take fish oil a few days in a row.
On the plus side my elbows aren't clicking anymore and that's been an ongoing problem for years
>>35336512
I hope you enjoy doing that at the gym sounds like fun . Im bulking over summer because I am a retard and didn't commit hard enough to the bulk and haven't reached my goal weight yet. Its also Christmas and stuff so maybe it was a good idea so I don't have to watch what I eat
>>35336544
I feel like I knew that about poisoning too, maybe it was on a TV show or something
Ahh yep that would explain it. I have to take allergy pills every day or else I am on pain all day so I never forget my fish oils. I keep my allergy pills, multivitamin and fish oils all together
i know that elbow clicking feel one day it will be gone
>>35336576
My elbow clicking stopped when I started working bi's more
Seems I was imbalanced a fair bit
>>35336453
cutting is so awful ;_;
I guess the key is to just never spill over into a fat percentage where shreds are far off
minimize the cut, minimize the suffering
TIL
Can someone please fucking explain sleep to me???
>Sleep 9 hours
>Feel kind of groggy, can't get up right away because too tired, lie in bed for an hour watching youtube videos and reading financial news
>Sleep 3.5 hours(barely)
>Feel energized
>Quickly get up to eat light breakfest
I don't get it.
>>35336765
Probably got woken up at different points in the sleep cycle.
>>35336770
But would it really be so drastic?
Right now I feel like a million bucks
>>35336783
It can be.
The effect will tend to dissipate after a while though and you'll be back to wherever your fatigue plants you.
>>35336789
Smfh.
if i could just master sleep I would become superior to all
Who here /business school/?
>>35336900
IT nerd here
>>35336900
Doing business management in college atm
Thinking of switching to a computing course
>>35337013
>Not being Finance major and programming as hobby master race
Shaking my damn penis at u
>>35337023
Good idea.
>>35336840
Buy a sleep tracker?
>>35337023
Computing is a meme
Finance major go big or go home nigga
Computer shit should just be a hobby. Makes no sense to major in it imo when you learn most of it online and the degree itself isn't all that useful.
>>35337030
>Shaking my damn penis at u
:3
smd
>>35337035
>fit
lolno
>>35337030
>not doing full time programming along acing med school
>not doing roid chem analysis as a side job
>not starting own store
<3
I'm going to go see an endo today, having gone through testicular cancer a few years back I'm suspecting that there might be a few hormonal changes that have been unaccounted for, so with my primary's referral (he thinks I might have hypogonadism), I'm probably going to surface what available treatment options there are.
I don't want to have to take this for the rest of my life, but my joints are aching nonstop and I'm abusing stimulants just to stay awake throughout the day.
Words of wisdom from any fraudsters?
>>35337049
Terrible.
Why not major in Finance to get into investment banking while also being a professional athlete and a hobbyist computer scientist?
>>35337057
>gone through testicular cancer a few years back I'm suspecting that there might be a few hormonal changes that have been unaccounted for
prolly
>Words of wisdom from any fraudsters?
you will feel much better on trt if you have low t
>>35337086
>prolly
Which wouldn't be all that surprising, given that every time I've brought up the chance of infertility or anything hormonal, I've had the discussion cut short by every doctor with "The other one should pick up the slack, and that you're too young to have any testosterone issues." I'm 25 and no probz with my dick yet, but since my cancer shit I've gotten ADHD, PTSD, depression and all sorts of other shit slapped around when I talk about sleeping all the time and being in pain.
>you will feel much better on trt if you have low t
like what are some immediate effects? is there a chance that if I go on trt for a while that my levels will just adjust themselves and I can get off it? if I get off it will my dick fall off?
Sup fraud, mirin my natty gains?
>>35337035
Naa its pharma accutane. Going back to the derm today so she can look at my mouth to tell me wtf is going in.
>responds 3 days later
>u prob dont kno what im even talking about
>>35337107
>is there a chance that if I go on trt for a while that my levels will just adjust themselves and I can get off it?
unfortunately it doesn't work like that
if you decide to go on trt it will be for the rest of your life.
exogenous hormones suppress natural production.
> if I get off it will my dick fall off?
nah
you /should/ be fine if you do a post cycle therapy
>>35337137
Not him but don't these statements contradict themselves?
>if you decide to go on trt it will be for the rest of your life.
>you /should/ be fine if you do a post cycle therapy
>>35337059
because numbers are boring as fuck compared to medicine
>>35337109
You look weird, m8
>>35337162
>Medicine
>Not boring and stressful along with terrible for money
Unless you genuinely enjoy being a doctor it's terrible.
>~1/4th of a million in debt
>~10 years of lost wages
>Competitive and difficult as fuck
>>35337162
>>35337171
>not choosing engineering
>>35337137
I'm assuming what you're saying is that I'll never be within the range that trt would get me if I were to stop taking it.
All in all, seems like a shit deal to take something for the rest of your life and potentially cut off all possibility of reproduction.
well, I guess I'll just what the endo's opinion is, since I probably won't even get put on trt at 25 anyway.
>>35337147
>Not him but don't these statements contradict themselves?
if he pct's he's test should go back to roughly its original state. imo
which is lower than the trt dose.
I'm no endo tho, but from research and reading thats how I understand it
>>35337180
>Being an autistic engineering major
Lmao.
Enjoy getting paid $120k/yr while working like a slave for a project that earns $5million a year.
Btw no one will care about any of the complex math and 50 hours studying you did after you graduate.
>>35337170
I think its my palms, they are closer to the camera
>>35337171
pls, implying im in clapland
>no debt
>no lost wages
>implying competetive and difficult is bad... mebbe for losers :3
>>35337199
>>no debt
Enjoy your 50% taxes and/or much lower salary.
>>no lost wages
Undergrad + med school + residency takes years of not earning shekels
>>implying competetive and difficult is bad... mebbe for losers :3
Not that it's bad, but just the vast majority of people do not get into med school, and nearly half of all 18 year olds want to "be a doctor", and it just won't happen for many of them.
>>35337147
As a low t person I can say you can quit it and your levels get back to your normal (again low in my case)... But that only happens if you do a proper post cycle therapy, other wise it can just fuck your balls and get you even lower t
>>35337199
>>35337206
Meant to write >50% taxes, whoops
>>35337208
Ball cancer dude here, what's a proper PCT look like?
>>35337232
You eat breast cancer medicine and magic stuff happens and all of a sudden your balls start producing T
>>35337253
t. Mayoclinic writer
is 25mg enough for EC stack daily? 25mg E and 200caffeine?
>>35337192
>Tfw studying a engineering degree in industrial engineering and management.
Year 3 and I do basically no math at all any more.
Who /Martin Shkreli fanboy/ here?
>>35337284
if test was raised to 350 dollars/250mg tomorrow, would you still be a fan of him?
>>35337368
That's a poor comparison.
He pointed out the retarded insurance company system rather than doing anything wrong.
>>35337377
>he didn't do anything wrong
>upcharged life-saving drugs by 5000% to prove a point
insurance systems are broken, but this move does not convince them to make a change, it convinces people to hate you and it convinces insurance companies to get really picky about offering your product no matter how important it is.
>>35337394
>Does something that multi billion dollar pharma companies do regularly
N-NO THAT'S WRONG MARTIN
>Explains on his livestream and in interviews exactly why, which is very reasonable and if anything at least he tells the truth and is honest
N-no lets just omit this part...
This is such a blatant smear campaign. He obviously pissed off the wrong people so they decided to completely tarnish him for fucking with their business.
>>35337425
all pharma companies are shitheads, I don't trust or respect any of them
then you have these UG guys who underdose their fucking product, as if it will make people change from 400mg to 500mg a week of the same product instead of just picking another brand, or worse, relabeling fucking winny as tbol
Anavar is fucking awesome when you're low bf idk why it gets so much hate
Good strength gains
Veins on my abs and traps are showing that I've never seen before
My forearms are dick skin mode
And speaking of dicks I think mine might even be more vascular
Rich piana cycle, whats your opinion on it?
Dropping deca because I can't control the moonface.
Protip: don't try 75mg sdrol unless you want to sleep for 16 hours.
Dropped accutane dosage from 60mg to 20mg and immediately started getting blackheads again.
>>35334965
>>35335000
What's the reasoning for recommending against running dbol for 8 weeks?
I've been running 30mg sdrol for months now with no issues.
>>35336349
Refeed.
Also I recommend cutting at a bigger deficit than 300-500cals, even if your running TRT doses of test your body will virtually all muscle.
>>35337500
Var is my favorite oral, always seem to discover new veins in crazy places while on var and the strength gains always surprise me.
>>35337527
>30mg sdrol for months
how is your jaundice
and why not just inject mast
why do you hate your liver so fucking much?
>>35337035
>>35337035
>Arrogant cunt enjoying some other poor sods wealth, thinking she's going to sit around and fuck young bucks.
I hope her tits end up saggy, and her resulting implants perforate.
/babybluelyrics
>>35334841
looking sexy. always mirin
Let's have a discussion about YK11.
http://www.ergo-log.com/yk11-sarm-myostatin-inhibitor-in-one.html
>>35337544
Liver is stronk and UDCA is magic.
Sdrol isn't the same as mast, the methyl group attached changes the effects.
Planning to start mast soon though.
>>35337596
I figured it was pretty much oral mast. Is there a big difference? And if there is, isn't there an injectable sdrol anyway? You can get injectable dbol and drol, but people never use them for some reason.
>>35337527
>What's the reasoning for recommending against running dbol for 8 weeks?
Not everybody has you iron liver. lol I had to tap out before the end of wk 4 running 50mg dbol.
>>35337615
Injectable orals still pass through the liver due to the methyl group. They just skip the first pass, which isn't a big deal.
>>35337647
Damn.
Have you tried UDCA/TUDCA? I wasn't joking when I said it's magic.
>>35337516
the most retarded shit ever
>>35337919
I agree with the tolerance part. You should run more compounds to prevent stagnation.
But he's running some compounds way too short.
>MUH PIANA ARMMM
Who /shit vision/ here?
What are some /roid/ approved eyeglasses?
>>35337862
if you take an oral and turn it into an injectable, it will still be alpha-alkylated
however, if you take an injectable that was never intended to be oral, it won't be alpha-alkylated because generally pharmacists don't like to kill people's livers for no reason
Just pinned right VG with tren a
Got about 0.5ml through and had to stop because it was causing pain
Pulled out syringe and immediately about an inch under the injection spot started itching really bad
60 seconds later it broke out in hives and is turning red
what the fuck do i do im scared
pic coming soon
>>35337936
>I agree with the tolerance part
lolno
androgen receptors upregulate
>>35337975
But if you run a certain compound, you will get used it, no? So you need to run more and more to get the same results over and over?
So your statement is; you can run e.g 600mg tren ew for 20 weeks and you will make the same gains
I'am noob with this. No bully pls
>>35337971
yellow circle is hives
pink circle is injection spot
>>35338002
>But if you run a certain compound, you will get used it, no?
nope
>So you need to run more and more to get the same results over and over?
as you progress you get deminished returns, both as a natty and as enhanced.
>So your statement is; you can run e.g 600mg tren ew for 20 weeks and you will make the same gains
well, the tren wont become any less effective.
the more you progress, the harder it is to progress. No matter what. The drugs dont become less potent, you just become more advanced
>>35338007
I have them all the time anon, just roll them out.
Trust me, I'm a doctor.
>>35337971
wow breh, i don't wanna scare you, but that shit doesn't look good.
could be allergic reaction.
VISIT A DOCTOR ASAP!
>>35338026
But this is only with androgens?
Sounds very interesting.
Useful info senpai Yolo. thanks
>>35338007
Probably an allergic reaction. Just don't pin anymore of it. Take some benadryl.
>>35338037
>But this is only with androgens?
all aas are androgenic to some degree.
but ya
>>35338007
amputate while you can
roids can be scary as fuck.
like when i pulled some semen out of my ass while aspirating
was terrified as fuck
advice from chem; just get a new syringe at suck it all up.
Don't takemedical advice from an anonymous pokémon trade card form. kek
>>35338075
And what pray tell did you actually fucking do, because we all know you didnt go to the doctor
>>35338118
nothing. Some guy over reassurance my ass.
He showed me a story of a guy, that had exactly the same problem. also my gf has some knowlegde about is since she stuying nursing.
Just let it rest for 2 weeks. that worked.
that guy has just an alleric reaction, no abscess as far as i know
>>35338167
So chem wasn't really wrong now was he?
>>35338175
Shut up Chem is always wrong.
>>35338167
Yeah, but you just tried to make him think he was about to have his leg fall off or some shit.
>>35338167
you ever smoke hookah?
>>35338175
kek
>>35338191
i don't know much about it. You can not take any risk breh. better safe than sorry
>>35338196
whut
>>35338207
>whut
>>35338219
I did that when i still smoked weed. i quit smoking now for 3/4 years als tobacco.
i know with the hookah you don't inhale via lungs.
I see so benefit to use it, other than just get a sicker high
why do you guys so obsessively pin your legs? a good glute pin is difficult to pull off right if you have to do it to yourself, quads have a lot of risk for PIP-induced inability to walk (plus lots of veins). I do all my pins in my delts, easy for me to get an angle where I don't hit a vein, have little PIP problems, don't have to worry about not being able to walk, never had any vein injections or subq or other results of shitty pinning
>>35338240
I <3 hookah
its one of my fave vices
>>35338250
>I do all my pins in my delts
same, atm
Do you guys warm your vials before drawing/ pinning?
>>35338522
I did when I pinned suspention
>>35338522
Yeah, makes it a lot easier IMO. I just heat it up in front of a space heater for like 45 seconds. Quicker drawing/pinning and it seems to reduce pip significantly.
>>35338250
What if you have to pin ED?
>>35336332
Moving to a new town or just a better place?
>>35334486
Can I perma-cruise in the Airforce?
I heard the military isn't that hard on AAS. But at any-point during enlisting, boot camp, or stationing, will I be tested for rons if I give them no reason to?
>>35338658
> But at any-point during enlisting, boot camp, or stationing, will I be tested for rons
probably not
>>35338250
My delts were the size of a 7year old girls forearm when I started. Everyone's glutes and legs are big enough to pin but I'm still not sure I should try delts. Seems like ill fuck up really hard and stick the needle in an artery or a nerve or something.
>>35338721
Maybe if you actually lifted you wouldn't have that problem.
So just how potent are roids.
You google "Natural" and niggas look absurdly shredded. Worse yet, the propogandist PR campaign has been so effective there's a fucking concrete wall of horseshit obscuring any legitimate content.
>>35338565
then you especially don't want to pin your ass or thighs every fucking day
>>35338549
that crazy qt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeKUAMOwK1Y
>>35338773
>So just how potent are roids.
potent enough to be worse the negative side effects.
>>35338812
:3
>>35338795
i agree but I meant you should incorporate as many injection sites as you can comfortably. Personally I do delts, VG, and DG for ED pinning and it seems to work well. DG isn't even that bad unless you're extremely inflexible. VG is goat
>>35338658
Yeah you can cruise while in. Shit, it'd be better to crash your levels with an oral or something and then go to the doc and get a script for TRT so you can do it without worrying constantly about someone finding out. Do all of this after you get your first station though.
>>35338721
Your delts are probably deeper than you think. I pin with 1" just because that's what I have for Glutes and there's never been a problem.
>>35338834
what are vg and dg
>>35338812
omfg
https://youtu.be/IeKUAMOwK1Y?t=144
what a sport
>>35338863
Ventroglute and Dorsoglute m8 cmon
>>35338879
how do you pin glute? with a mirror, or do you have a dom to do it for you? I gave up pinning my own glute, couldn't see for shit and got too much blood and leaked oil
>>35338893
shes cute enough to get away with being crazy
>>35338898
This I just me but before I sanitize I draw out the four quadrants with my hand and then look at a spot in the top right quadrant, sanitize it, and then pin it. It can be a bit tricky sometimes but the injection site is so big it's not like you have to be spot on every time.
>>35336005
pin test p at that length
>>35338856
I've pinned with my 1in 25 gauge in the delts but prefer insulin syringes for them now.
Save the big boys for the glutes
Why all the hate on pinning quads
Quads are my favorite place to pin
I also only pin dorsoglute and quads cause if I get delt PIP then I'm liable to drop cheergirl and that's a big no-no
dead fraud is dead
>>35339170
fml shes qt
>>35339167
glutes are meaty == less pain.
bro science?
>Muhhhhhhhhhhhhh glutess
>>35339167
How big of a no no?
I want to run a short cycle lasting no longer than 6 weeks, thus I've chosen to do a epistane only cycle.
Will this PERMANETLY suppress me? I mean I'll have PCT with nolva and clomid... But I'm worried I'll never return to baseline
>>35339188
>>35339195
> I've chosen to do a epistane only cycle.
:^)
>Will this PERMANETLY suppress me?
probably not
>>35339198
>has to completely bend her body to make an illusion of having an ass
sad times
>>35339184
What music are y'all listening to? That Belly ft The Weeknd song is pretty legit, at least the weeknd's part
>>35339198
404 ass not found. How can you like it?
everyone loves a meaty ass
>>35339195
>oral only cycle
Well meme'd good sir
>>35339212
>>35339214
you guys srsly dont think thats 9/10?
Idk
maybe my brain is fuckt, but thats my shit right there.
>>35339213
>What music are y'all listening to?
some local afrikaans bands / rappers
death metal
gangster rap
sometimes psytrance
left ass is the best ass. perfect leg-waist-ass ratio
>>35339231
>gangster rap
welke? Ik luister ook
old skool?
>>35339188
I guess I have pretty meaty quads too tho. Maybe that's why I like it
>also I like being able to sit down and see what I'm doing
>>35339190
As a guy, my first and almost only responsibility is to make sure none of the girls hit the ground
>only ever dropped one girl and it was terrible she fell from where her feet were about 10 ft off the ground
>>35339231
Afrikaner? She looks good, but I wouldn't fuck her.
>>35339208
>>35339217
I can't afford to roid for 8 weeks +, I've got uni and other commitments that I can't risk fucking up because my PCT has gone wrong or something
>>35339195
Why risk it. You will shutdown so you may aswell actually get something useful like test and get big. Even test p at 150 eod will cost you less then epi and you make more gains.
>>35339244
Any repercussions from dropping a girl? Like socially or from authority?
>>35339241
het nou die dag eers vir lil kleine ontdek
kyk hierdie
dis jack parrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvcdEx-kdSk&list=PLdlX8Pl6WCWU4p16cjKJMN0jGazH_RXOe
nie rerig gangster nie, maar ja
>>35339245
>Afrikaner?
nope
can log into my fb/ig and post some if you want?
just pinky promise me no doxx
>>35339252
>I can't afford to roid for 8 weeks +
get a better source or get more money
>I've got uni and other commitments
we all do
Is it really that important to be low bf% before roiding? I'm like 15% if I run test will I get hardcore gyno?
>>35339300
No, just will probably need more ai. You will drop some bf on your first cycle if you eat clean.
>>35339300
>Is it really that important to be low bf% before roiding?
you'd look much better at low bf
> I'm like 15% if I run test will I get hardcore gyno?
not if you use ai
>>35339213
Rock
Old school rock
Hardcore
Alt rock
Old school metal
Heavy metal
Ect
Not a fan of electronic sounding music but I still listen to quite a bit of it too
>>35339305
>>35339311
thx homies, appreciate the help
>>35338863
Ventroglutes and death grips
Blast death grips and slam vg. This is proper pinning technique
