Initially, I heard that eggs were bad for you.
Then, I heard that the studies saying they were bad for you were garbage and that eggs are actually good for you.
Now, I'm hearing that the studies saying eggs are good are garbage and that eggs are actually bad for you.
Which is it? Please no extremely biased viewpoints. (vegans and keto dieters plz go)
>>35287197
my god eggs are fine
now get the fuck out
no eggs, no leggs
Eggs contain lots of nutrients. Thats the whole biological purpose of an egg. So in that regard, you can consider them healthy. The main thing studies say that are inhealthy about eggs, are the high amount of cholesterol. High levels of cholesterol in your blood are bad for your arteries. However, most studies show that high cholesterol intake does not result in high blood cholesterol, so eggs can be considered safe. But always moderate the amount of animal products you eat. Animal products are usually high in hormones and antibiotics, and those can have some nasty side effetcs if consumed excessive.
No food is instrictive good or bad. Consume in moderation, something that seems quite hard for people on this board.
>>35287197
who cares? you're gonna die anyway, just eat whatever gives you most gainz for least money
>>35287322
>Eggs contain lots of nutrients.
Honestly, they aren't even particularly nutritious, they're just marketed well. They're high in riboflavin and that's about it. Everything else in eggs is either average or below average compared to other foods.
>most studies show that high cholesterol intake does not result in high blood cholesterol, so eggs can be considered safe
It depends on how the study is designed. Feeding people with an already high cholesterol intake probably won't dramatically increase cholesterol levels, but removing the cholesterol will likely lower their cholesterol, and adding cholesterol to a high cholesterol diet can cause large increases
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/55/6/1060.full.pdf
Beyond that, cholesterol feeding increases the rate at which the cholesterol in your blood oxidizes, potentially making them more atherogenic even at the same blood cholesterol level
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9001684/
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Barry_Goldin/publication/12610352_Dietary_cholesterol_increases_the_susceptibility_of_low_density_lipoprotein_to_oxidative_modification/links/02bfe50ead72e5ef10000000.pdf
While people who sell eggs and people who benefit from promoting bodybuilding cliches are constantly trying to make eggs out to be a nutritious, healthy food, the truth is that they really aren't the best thing for you. Treat it as a cheat meal, not a staple.
>>35287569
*adding cholesterol to a low cholesterol diet
>>35287197
>(vegans and keto dieters plz go)
Keto dieter here, in direct violation of your request that I "go".
Eggs are fine. Eat up. Unless you got suckered into the "low fat" meme, don't even take out the yolks.
>>35287569
Vegetable oils increase susceptibility to oxidation. Modulating the oxidative capacity of LDL has never been shown to be beneficial.
>>35287543
Yeah, but I want to be healthy and active when I die. Not on half a dozen different medications for various medical issues.
Most people cook their eggs in tons of butter and salt and then add cheese. That's what's bad for you.
If you want the healthiest eggs, you have to eat hard-boiled, farm-raised, grass-fed, albino flamingo eggs.
But really, any bird egg (including chicken) is fine.
>>35287915
chickens don't lay eggs you turd lmao you fucking tard
>>35287915
Butter, salt and cheese obviously make it worse but it's just adding more unhealthiness onto an already unhealthy base
Egg have DHA- and AA- bound phosphatidylcholine and phosphatidylserine. Both are great for brain function.
>>35287569
IT'S A CONSPIRACY
>>35288001
Eggs aren't unhealthy.
Eggs are amazing food
>>35288081
Refer to >>35287569
Eggs aren't magic or special. If you can see that cheese and butter, with their saturated fat and cholesterol, are unhealthy, I don't know why you can't see how eggs, with their saturated fat and cholesterol, are unhealthy.
1 egg contains 213 mg of cholesterol. Healthy adults are advised to limit their dietary cholesterol intake to less than 300 mg a day.
>>35288114
Dietary cholesterol doesn't equal blood cholesterol. Fat isn't unhealthy either. Are you a moron?
>>35288117
Healthy adults were also advised to avoid dietary fat until they reversed their decision when research proved decades of their advice was meaningless
Being a healthy body weight is more important than what you are eating.
Assuming you exercise the rest is largely irrelevant unless you have some sort of underlying medical issue or family history.
>>35288167
Doesn't equal but does increase.
>fat isn't unhealthy either
As a broad macronutrient, no, but individual fats, such as certain saturated fatty acids and trans fatty acids, are.
>>35288178
>Healthy adults were also advised to avoid dietary fat
No they weren't, they were advised to slightly lower it to about 30% of calories. Americans then ate even more fat. They also advised lowering sugar intake. Americans ignored that too.
http://www.cnpp.usda.gov/sites/default/files/nutrient_content_of_the_us_food_supply/KilocaloriesandMacronutrientsPerCapitaperDay1909-2010.xls
>>35288184
Then what should people eat instead?
>>35288219
http://www.who.int/dietphysicalactivity/diet/en/
http://www.aicr.org/foods-that-fight-cancer/?referrer=https://www.google.com/
http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/what-can-i-eat/making-healthy-food-choices/diabetes-superfoods.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/
For breakfast, I like a bowl of oats with some fruit myself
>>35288200
http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/study-government-guidelines-on-low-fat-diet-were-not-supported-by-science/
Government agencies advised low fat diets to try to curb heart disease and we now know they were completely wrong. Your body weight has much much more to do with your heart health than what you eat. Yes, yes, I know. There's always some imaginary anecdotal man who is underweight with a heart attack and eats like shit. I'm talking about the vast majority.
>>35287569
Chicken detected
>>35288255
>foods that fight cancer
>superfoods
Okay. So you're just a moron. I won't waste any more time.
>>35288279
This is what we call a "conspiracy theory"
This website can explain these crazy assertions while I head out the door
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzhivS7HT7Y (dietary trends in the US, addressing the "guidelines made us fat and sick" fallacy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIzwOgOf-7w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VWRcpKanHE (the meta-analysis of RCTs referred to in that healthimpact article)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bSdnQ1MKGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGt97ojn5zs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD48EGuP0QY (the "scientists are all wrong about the saturated fat and heart disease link" argument)
Now anyone not a conspiracist crazypants can see why the fat-munchers are a crazy bunch, and the fat-munchers can make an ad hominem and ignore it all, isolating themselves further from the rest of the world. See ya guys
>>35288352
>fat-munchers
Keep proving me correct. You have some weird personal attachment to this. This isn't a fucking console war or something.
>>35288295
You sure showed him with that childish denial.
>>35288373
>>35288295
>you're just a moron.
Keep proving me correct. You have some weird personal attachment to this. This isn't a fucking console war or something.
>>35288184
Dietary cholesterol contributes roughly 20% to blood cholesterol, and that's being very charitable.
Imagine if 20% of your consumed calories contributed to your caloric intake, yeah?
Likewise, there are different types of cholesterol, and studies show that eggs increase LDL, thus having a beneficial effect on blood cholesterol levels. Of course, you shouldn't get all your daily calories from any one source (including eggs), but you're probably the type of person who needs to be told that.
>>35288468
>studies show that eggs increase LDL, thus having a beneficial effect on blood cholesterol levels.
I think you mean HDL. Increased LDL would be a bad thing.
>>35288529
Correct. I always get them backwards. Eggs didn't increase or decrease LDL. But they raise HDL.
>>35288554
I like to remember which is which by saying HDL starts with an H for healthy.
so can I eat 4 dozen eggs a day à la Gaston or is that too much?
I'm not good with moderation
My general take is that cardiovascular health and overall fitness is the primary factor in blood cholesterol and LDL. Is this wrong?
>>35289029
Exercise can lower LDL cholesterol and reduce some of the other negative effects of shitty diet in animal models. But it's never as good as exercise and good diet combined.
>>35287197
In short, they are great.
>>35289839
>Being willfully ignorant
>>35289994
>Being stubborn and ignorant
>>35288596
I do the same.
>>35287569
>Honestly, they aren't even particularly nutritious, they're just marketed well. They're high in riboflavin and that's about it. Everything else in eggs is either average or below average compared to other foods.
You can eat 3-5 eggs and get almost a full day's worth of protein and all the amino acids in full. This also causes about twice the amount of daily cholesterol.
>>35288255
>Anonymous 12/17/15(Thu)13:58:12 No.35288255 ▶>>35288295
>>>35288219
Eggs are fucking god tier
http://www.anabolicmen.com/cholesterol-and-testosterone-levels/
http://www.anabolicmen.com/natural-steroids-and-foods-for-anabolic-diet/
http://www.anabolicmen.com/best-testosterone-boosting-foods/
http://www.anabolicmen.com/why-to-drink-raw-eggs/
The only healthy way to eat eggs is to crack them open, ditch the white and yolk, then grind the shell into a powder and sprinkle it onto your oats. Eat it dry and wash it down with exactly two ounces of lukewarm water.
Anything else will give you supercancer.
>>35290796
Wait, you made fun of someone for linking to sites that say "super foods" yet you're linking to a site called anabolicmen?
That's a bit hypocritical.
They are good but nothing special except for their price.
It's just cheap protein.
>>35287197
If you were trapped in a cell for 2 months and the only thing you could eat was eggs. Would they be good for you?
>>35290833
Different poster mate I did not make fun of anyone, and that was my first post in this thread
Just eat the egg whites if you're concerned
