is it possible to build serious muscle without a gym?
>>35279761
Yea, go outside and lift rocks or actually get a hobbie that doesn't involve the gym that's physical. Not that hard bud...
>>35279768
t-thanks anon
You should do the movement workout.
It's totally legit.
>>35279761
Yes, but it will take way longer
>>35279761
Depends by what you mean when you say serious.
Any more muscle than this on dudes who only do bodyweight stuff is likely done on steroids.
yes. Calisthenics are great if done right
>be outside
>be more social
>save money
>look like a badass
ive put on quite the gains doing it
>>35280038
Where can I find calisthenic centric gyms if thats a thing?
>>35280067
>Calisthenic gym
>>35280079
I mean a place with ready accommodations for calisthenic stuff
I know some programs want you to have these gymnast rings and fancy shit, plus i have a hard time finding a place to do horizontal pulls so i have to hack something together and its really dangerous
>>35279761
CONSTRUCTION, BITCH
>>35280067
go to parks, dude. There are bars, poles, etc all around.
find stuff to do pull ups on, play some sport, bust out 20 push ups on the spot
you might not get huge legs doing calisthenics but can build an amazing upper body withj great core strength
if you live in a shit area then id say just go to the gym
>>35279761
Become a construction worker
>>35279761
never been to a gym, beaten everyone, including people literally twice my weight in arm restles, i have been inspiration for many of my friends to start working out... that feel when you are godlike compared to everyone else coz you don't lift and dont go to gym and stil stronger than gym junkies
>>35280130
judging strength based completely on arm wrestles
curlbros get out.
>>35280103
thanks anon, guess i'll hit the park tomorrow
>>35280173
its not purely on arm wrestles, i've never been beaten sparing or in a fight. im also a mechanic and have managed to shatter one of my sockets trying to undo a rusted bolt... my rattle gun cant brake my sockets. gyms are for the physically challenged.
>>35279761
Depends how much you mean by 'serious'. Most won't develop the same amount of muscle as with lifting weights, but if you're consistent and you increase the difficulty, yes you can build muscle via calisthenics routines.
>>35280226
>what are levers
>>35280226
>>35280240
assuming i was using a breaker(pussy) bar.
i dont need a transmission jack to change a gear box take it out by hand, i can basically pick up some little cars... you think gym equipment helps, you get strong by being dedicated to surviving
>>35280088
Nah most don't say you need gymnastics rings. Getting some cheap portable rings is a great idea though if you're interested in calisthenics training.
steroids+sprinting+bodyweight training
My best gains have come from pullups, pushups, and squats. Add in jumps and some odd object lifting and you're all set.
>>35279761
Serious muscle? No.
Some muscle? Yes.
Muscle quickly? No.
>>35280282
> this guy just puts a socket on a fastener and grabs the socket; starts to turn
> no ratchet or lever of any kind
>>35280102
this desu senpai
>>35280360
right you go put a standard 3/4 ratchet with a 17mm socket on something that isnt going to turn, put all your force into and feel your womanly weight lifting hand buckle under the unmovable force
all things aside back to OP
get a skipping rope or start sprinting. not jogging
> 1 minute skip/sprint
> 1 minute 20 push ups 20 sit ups 20 squats
> repeat until you can't keep going, or about 5 sets roughly 10 minutes
as you get stronger increase the pushups and that to finish in your minute till you can't fit anymore in the minute, then increase to two minutes skipping/sprinting and two minutes for your pushups and what not
>>35280559
Thats it then? What kinda gains did you get ?
>>35280088
A lot of public parks have exercise equipment m8
>>35280559
>training to failure
>>35280559
Wouldn't recommend this unless you're looking specifically for a general conditioning workout.
There's no balance in push/pull work, situps are balls for any actual ab strength, air squats are too easy. Training to failure with rep numbers in the 20s is leaning toward endurance training. Not strength and hypertrophy. Once you can do 3x8-12 reps, put the difficulty up. That's the major mistake made by newer bodyweight guys: they don't know how to scale difficulty so they just bang out endless reps of easy stuff.
>>35280585
umm, pretty good, though you don't become bodybuilder big and can never gain that sort of muscle this way, you you abs will come through pretty fast, better definition than lifter and marathon runners combined. i kid you not girls will become so attracted it might give you a complex
>>35280559
You're full of shit senpai
>>35280684
two of us can cherry-pick images anon.
>>35280067
Parks
Fuckin trees
I dunno, parking garages
Literally anywhere; the world is your gym
>>35280632
> mfw my training is useful than for just being more than a model or an olympian
>>35280684
His lats look out of place
>>35280840
What? If it was about olympic training I'd have criticzed the complete lack of periodization and prep work.
All I pointed out was that your routine has no balance for your push/pull work which leaves you susceptible to shoulder injury and poor posture, no proper progression which will lead to substandard gains in ALL areas and thus are poorly optimized, a core exercise with large amounts of flexion and very poor resistance, and a leg exercise that is extremely easy and won't trigger hypertrophy nor strength gains to any real degree.
There are better plans that are far more useful for everyday life and practical application because they address all of these issues.
>>35280684
>only does pull-ups
>baby knees
0/2
>>35280988
implying pushups and squats are not push pull, and if your saying they are not you have been taught wrong. this what i do along side my day job and actual martial art training not just mediocre hurdur i got meh blk belt i am da best fighter evra style. i went around and found people who still taught traditionally and strictly. i am living proof that it will give massive gains off the bat
>>35279803
Not today Nathan fielder!
>>35281149
You must be baiting at this point. You can't be genuinely telling me that you think doing squats will balance out your shoulders and upper body musculature to compensate for the additional strength and mass that you will gain by doing push work. Squats will not affect the stabilisers in your scapulae, will not help you with shoulder extension and retraction and depression, will not help you with ensuring that you can correctly brace and balance the rotator cuffs so that you don't get wear and impingement with poor motor patterns as a result of imbalanced training.
It won't give massive gains. It'll increase your strength (somewhat) and your endurance, and if that's what you're seeking, great. If you want genuine long-term strength development and size gains, which is what the OP is specifically asking for, then your program is inefficient and imbalanced and will not yield the desired results.
>>35281192
you neglect the fact that there is more than one type of pushup, including reverse, could always put pull ups in there, was just a dialed down version of my start to the day. as my father said to me when i was young (in theory, theory and practical are the same, in practice they are not)
tell me again how you technical talk has helped you become a better you?
>>35281331
A reverse pushup is still a pushing exercise. You may now achieve scapular elevation, but you still miss out on all the benefits of pull work.
Okay, pullups are definitely a vertical pull exercise, which will definitely help with what I mentioned before: however you've now provided extra information that covers one of the issues I mentioned, thus it's no longer as much of an issue. Your overall program is now a more rounded program: but my criticism of the initial plan you provided still holds. A small mentioning of pull work such as pullups or inverted rows would have been beneficial to help a beginner achieve a more balanced physique and avoid injury.
I am aware that theory and practical work is not the same in practice; however, with flawed theory it is next to impossible to achieve pefect practical work if the theory itself is flawed. If your practical work is perfect, you can derive a potentially perfect theory from it. But if I base my practical work around a flawed premise, the result will always be flawed. That is why constructive criticism and proper information are critical.
Technical talk helps because it allows me to better quantify, explain, and understand subjects. It avoids the potential issues of incorrect or incomprehensible terminology. If I break things down into exact, specific and fixed topics, its much easier to discuss these and their related matters.
If I simply said "Shoulder damage because of bad training" that's not very specific. What exactly is the damage? Nerve damage, frozen nerves, soft tissue damage, muscle damage, bone damage, dislocation, inflammation?
Why is the training bad? Is there too much volume? Too much weight/intensity? Not enough prehab and warm-up? Bad form? Imbalances in the exercises? Exercises that are actively damaging to certain individuals?
By stating the issue with technical talk, I avoid potential miscommunication and allow anyone who knows these terms to grasp exactly what I talk about.
>>35281425
im not gonna lie, i have very little knowledge of the names of muscle groups and technical wording for this and that, but i having had all my life have grown to know my body beyond names of parts of it, so alot of your wording like stabilisers in your scapulae i had to look up.
>>35280559
It's not terribly difficult to break a socket. Get over yourself.
>>35281505
And that's absolutely fine mate, we're coming at this from two different angles:
I'm 18 and want to be a physiotherapist: I've been studying a lot of anatomy and physiology stuff to help prepare me for doing a physiotherapy degree, so knowing these names and terms is important to me.
You might not have the same technical knowledge, but you've got real-life experience and a strong bank of personal data for your theories.
I hope I haven't seemed too harsh: I just wanted to point out the issues I had with the routine because I saw potential areas for improvement, and potential concerns for injury if people don't understand other things like the need for balance in your exercises.
You also were forward enough to state that you had to look up some of these terms: and I respect that, and I respect those that adapt their training or styles when they learn new things.
I just wanted to provide some of that information anybody who was reading this thread, wanting to start calisthenics, and didn't know about the potential risks of an imbalanced program, or the way different programs will achieve different goals, the one you provided maybe not achieving the goal that these people are after.
>>35281609
well i have to say i now know a bit better what it is i am actually doing. good to get a different view on things.
>>35281609
>I'm 18 and want to be a physiotherapist
so you want to give naked men a massage for a living?
>>35281554
maybe if your using pleb issue sockets and a breaker bar. you do know how much torque a rattle gun puts out right... more than any car you've ever owned and i can use it without braking my sockets. mind you stress fractures do build up with enough us, but ive never seen anyone else brake one without more than a standard ratchet, so until you show me how easy it is, it is quite an achievement to me
>>35281155
But I got really good grades.
>not posting Street Stretch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNE_2v3_JF0
>>35281763
Naked? You have some interesting misconceptions anon.
>>35283413
He's been watching that porn, m8
