/OWG/ - A thread for the discussion of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults and shitposting to a minimum.
>Presidents Cup Edition
>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
http://pastebin.com/1HgVcGam
http://pastebin.com/wCXeXfkk
http://www.chinfl.blogspotco.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq
http://www.iwf.net/doc/technical.pdf
http://yashathoughts.com/
>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.
Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists
STREAM FOR THE PRESIDENTS CUP
>http://www.allthingsgym.com/2015-presidents-cup/
>http://www.streamytv.net/ntv-plus-sport-russia/
Red Lights
>>35206708
>>35225392
scoreboard isnt working but it shows the openers and the bw's.....
http://www.iwf.net/scoreboard/scoreboard2.php
also fun fact my coach told me they tested Yun Chol OM like 15 times at worlds this year
>>35225518
Feels good man. Fucking americans thinking every other country is roided like crazy.
:^)
ILYAAAAAAA IS IN THE BUILDINGNGGGGGG
Viktor Getts and Ilya :-D
Norik making easy work of 197kr
scoreboard is working now....
http://www.iwf.net/scoreboard/scoreboard2.php
guess we wont be seeing norik hit the CJ #'s we wanted.
Norik making easy work of 202kr, ending with that
expected 210 from norik t B H f Am
>>35225768
oh well
BTW guys the scoreboard is ahead so if you refresh it it will give you spoilers!
Open with caution!
>>35225800
Maligov with 210kr in the books!
Did a lot of these guys not cut enough weight in time for the competition? It seems like guys who are almost 85kg are competing with 94kg lifters or am I wrong?
>>35225864
they "gained" weight to compete in order to get another qualifier to go to the olympics.
the 77's gained 8 kilos to compete and the 85's just maintained or gained whatever, the actual 94's were the only ones cutting.
>>35225864
Victor Getts is usually a 77kg lifter,, competing at 94 here
>>35225897
does that mean he'll be competing at 94 in rio? how does the qualification process work?
>>35225921
No he can compete in whatever weightclass, he can qualify in whichever and compete in whichever. Hui Liao competed in the 77's during the grand prix to get his second qualifier.
Ulanov did the 219kr to show that just 2.+ kr over 85 bw ... he can break the wr....
MALIGOV WITH THE WIN
So do you only need to compete to get a qualifier for the Olympics? Even if you don't place well in the competition do you still get a qualifier for the Olympics?
It was really humid and i opened my garage so everything got wet. I had a bad AM session.
Hopefully pm will be good since i wont open the door. But training this week has deviated a lot from normal.
>>35225981
wondering why he didnt go for 220 to win gold in the CJ tho.....
>>35226027
From what I understand you just need to total at an international IWF event...
I think.
Im not too sure actually what the qualification procedures are...
>>35226027
The teams need team spots based on points collected by placements, then the lifters are selected based on different criteria (some countries just pick who they feel is in form some pick based on total/Sinclair etc)
The lifters have to lift at two international comps to be eligible. So in theory a lifter could hit their numbers at two meets and 'qualify' for a place and win the team spots, and then not get chosen by the Olympic selection committee
The shit that just went down regarding Sarah Robles is an example of this
>>35225490
hey owg.
just shaved my head, how much is my total going to increase?
105kg in roughly 10 minutes
>>35226109
Since you lost some mass on your head it will be less work on the rest of your body to lift weight. I'm going to guess however much weight hair that was shaved off will be added to your total.
ilya just dancing the whole time
ilya is lifting
>>35226563
smeshed first snatch
ILLYA WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED THERE?
did you guys see ilya coach
ive never seen a chink with a full beard before
>>35226617
bc hybrids
I didn't know Yao Ming also did olympic weightlifting
liking the music choices for these desu senpai
>>35225740
>Mattie will never be your gf
>you'll never aggressively cuddle/wrestle with her, pin her down and fuck her
why live
>>35226725
>aggressively cuddle her
>not wanting mattie to sit on your face until you blackout
>>35226740
>wanting mattie to sit on your face until you blackout
>not wanting mattie to shit in your mouth
ilya starting at 231 fug
>>35226617
High test chink
Ilya got da spikes back
246 on the board
ilya u wot m8
HERE WE GO BOISSSS
big d in the audience lel
NEW C&J RECORD, 247 NEXT!
>>35227188
link it
LINK IT
HOLY SHIIIIIIIT
ilya u motherfucker
that guy with the flag lmao
ilya pls...
>>35227210
>not reading the oh pee
Oh me God
>doubting ilya
>>35227223
ILYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>35227210
http://www.allthingsgym.com/2015-presidents-cup/
hes not going for a third attempt?
>>35227237
doubt it
>>35227237
why would he?
>>35227237
hes saving the 264 for rio...
>>35227243
250 pls
>>35227237
Expect 193-195/250+ at Rio
you guys think we'll see a 250 attempt in rio ?
>>35227263
>>35227254
>>35227253
>>35227252
seems like you guys were way ahead of me
>>35227263
i hope
Would illya still win gold with his 231 CJ?
>>35227299
by 6 kg
>>35227299
yes
>246
idiot
>>35227299
maybe
wear our the recoridngs for this presidents cup
>>35227646
someone just uploaded them so not in the best quality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Hil1Y44lI
>>35227668
i must hope he uploads the 94kg as too because i do not see that. thank mr karumer anyway!
You're at the club and this guy snatches your gf what do you do?
i thought Spencer Moorman was supposed to lift in this competition? or is there more comps in russia for Olympic qualifier?
>>35228061
Ask him for training tips
>>35228131
tomorrow
real talk
is ilya ilyin autistic?
>>35228396
if i could C+J 246 I'd gladly be autistic
>>35228396
Idk but his Instagram makes me think so.
>>35228396
>>35228455
why are you disrespectful of the nice man and upper russian weightlifting ilya?
>>35228486
no disrespect but i met this guy in real life once and he was absolute aspergers.
>>35228491
describe your interaction of him if you are saying true.
>>35228523
hes nice guy but he is always bouncing around like hes on speed or cocaine.
>>35228491
This is bullshit don't make up stories
>>35228611
i also met lu xiaojun too. he's a great guy though.
hes very innocent almost naive like. he speaks a little english.
>>35228655
I met lu xiaojun at a grocery store he said electrical infetterence good English no accent at all
>>35228578
high test dude. people on juice are like that ... they have a lot of energy.
>>35228669
i met him at nasa in houston texas LMAO
there i took pic
>>35228705
thats not you faggot
>>35228705
proove that man is you
you can not
>>35228710
>>35228719
>implying i want to become a tripfag
this place is anonymous for a reason
>>35228705
not sure why you blacked your face out when you posted the original in the previous thread
>>35228773
s-shut up
>>35228813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cpt__BOIjY
How are these looking>? They felt rally good.
50kg snatches!
>>35228733
That's completely unrelated and that's not you
>>35228946
ilya's hair look like he just chew a whole pack of five gum
>>35228952
he has the hair of a big guy
>>35228882
>durkz finally hitting full extension
;^)
>>35228946
Can someone copy and paste that filename for me
Two questions 4u goys.
1.would you get usaw 1 certified?
2.do muscle creme rubs work?
>>35228671
Speaking from experience?
>>35229394
We all know durkz is on juice. He's one of those faggots who believes you can't make world class progress natty.
>>35229331
Yeah I was thinking of doing it next year and yeah they work pretty decently
>>35228491
how exactly did you meet ilya when he wasnt at world where you mightve met lu?
>>35228946
that's a much better jerk than his 242
>>35227668
yurik was commentating on this
lol i wonder what they were saying
>>35229738
this is where we really see the big guy weights. you'll notice the bar bends at such weights only big guys handle
ILYA CLEAN AND JERKED 246!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS_byPGx6q4&list=FLNmyzwiIM-c1WTe1KVtDcUQ&index=1
>>35230194
way to be late to the slow moving thread
>>35230204
Sorry I've been too busy recently with finals and shitposting on /pol/
>>35230001
you really think big guy meme is funny dont you
you must be lmao everytime u post it but i dont
stop it
>>35230239
your a mad guy
>>35228486
Ilya is Kazakh not Russian
>>35230298
Is Pat Mendez the only man who can stand in his way for Rio gold?
>>35230239
Not him but
>big guy
>big guy
>big guy
Get over yourself....you prolly also hate mattie posting
>>35230316
Phat can't even stand up his 200 cleans
had a comp today. 111kg c&j here. pr all the way yess.
69kg class
>>35230315
yes he is russian. there are many russians in kazakhstan. native language is russian. he barely speaks kazakh but most kazakhstan citizens do. ilya is of the slavic master race 0% turk
>>35230381
how tall
>>35230404
5'9"
>>35230372
https://www.instagram.com/p/--H9OsEtZ7/?taken-by=buffmendes
>>35230432
Would never have that passed in a comp tho unfortunately
Pat seems to have the ability and potential with not much execution where it matters
>>35230404
manlet
>>35230432
>with just doing #600lbsquateveryday
sure
>>35229331
I use a cannabis oil cream that's really nice. The analgesic effects are mild but still noticeable, and there's no risk of chemical burn as with some other OTC creams. I get it from a dispensary nearby, but you could easily make your own.
>>35230426
if you did not say 69kg id guess you were 5'5 becuase you have such small body
skinny you remind me of oly boi and id bet you share his personal problems too. disgustingly skinny. lidia could crush you
i bet your legs dont even chafe when you walk
go to 85kg at least
>>35228882
Looking p good bb nice patience getting into position.
>>35230498
weed 420 lmao
shut the fuck up
>>35230508
thanks for the tips rofl
>>35230514
Square.
>>35230522
stop being small
>>35230508
>Lydia could crush you
Not him but that's pretty much my dream.
However 6'2 105 :#
>>35230298
Kekd audibly
>>35230608
then why dont you move down to 77kg
then youll be skinny like skinny boy there and lidia can crush your balls easily any day. have fun boyo
>>35230608
>6'2
i hope you plan on going 105+
Guys this took so long. Now i've gotta add like 10kg in two weeks if i want to hit my goal(105/140 by new years). Maybe pr snatch tomorrow?
My arm bend is really bad and the whole clean looks ugly but i'm fine with the jerk. It didn't feel properly locked out but from the video it looks fine.
>>35230547
Guy in the middle looks like Lapikov.
>>35231540
Don't rush and let your ego get to you because you'll just injure yourself.
I wanted 200kg squat by new years, had an entire plan in august for progressing and made branch routines to adjust for anything that went wrong with the training or where I ended up stalling early. Failed to account for life giving me the middle finger and I ended up with just a 10kg pr of 155 for a single after all this time on my back squat. At least I matched my 3 second paused front squat easily with my best regular front squat.
>>35231577
Dont worry i'm not trying anything crazy to get it just focusing on getting enough sleep and food. Also trying to minimize stress from things that aren't lifting.
I have a week of school and then a break that goes past new years so recovery should be fine.
>>35231577
>I ended up with just a 10kg pr of 155 for a single
are you the guy who came here with like 100kg squat trying 200kg before end of year
haha good on you retard
>>35231540
you fucking scumbag you dont know when to quit. i told you to stop it and now you arent even putting in the effort to hide it
think you can get away with it forever? you really are a piece of shit
this is your last warning fuckface. stop it IMMEDIATELY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYMakTfVDWk
Boevski was a 5'9 69kg lifter deal with it weak nerd.
>>35231668
i didn't even make a face this time and you cant prove it
>>35231673
are you trying to imply you're strong because you can cj 111? lol you're not boevski tho
he said your body looked small as shit
you look like you have very small girly frame senpai
>>35231612
No I already had a 145kg squat since last April, I'd been off since May-September and then I've had numerous life issues with family and relationships and borderline depression, lack of motivation, probably lost a few kilos in weight due to lack of food intake and rest.
>>35231458
I'd really like to stay 105. Maybe in my 30s...
>>35231673
...and then he was sent to prison. shows how well being 69kg worked him. have fun when you get keked by 5'5 guys who weigh more than you.
>>35231725
>are you trying to imply you're strong because you can cj 111? lol you're not boevski tho
I'm not >>35230381
My point was Galabin Boevski was a 5'9 lifter who put out great numbers. Just because he is 5'9 doesn't mean he has to be a 85kg lifter.
>>35231795
>Maybe in my 30s...
by then it will be much harder to move up
don't you want to be stronger than as many people as possible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDdzFxJRcQA
What is caladan's insta
>>35231781
>>35231795
>>35231823
why would you do this
>>35231888
>by then it will be much harder to move up
most athletes move up when they're older because cutting is harder on them
are you sure you got that right?
>>35230381
fuckin nice brah.
>>35231930
Because moving up weight classes is not as easy and good as you think it is. Not everyone has the same frame and you can only put so much muscle on a frame. I don't get why people think everyone bones are the same size as everyone elses...
kek
>>35231612
>tfw squat 110
gonna try to get to 120 before the new year
>>35232326
this video is amazing btw
they make comments on how their athletes did and how the comp is going on
later they interview naniev and looked like he was about to cry when they start the first question, then they all give him some good advice and he starts to open up a bit
>>35231943
yes i am. it is not same as a guy moving up from 85kg to 94kg.
we are talking about guy moving up to superheavyweight, where there is no weight limit, and guys try to put on muscle mass for as long as they can be competitive. it takes longer to reach that genetic potential for the muscle mass than it takes to add in as much muscle mass into a designated weight class, the latter is likely below your potential. unless you're doing something nonsense of course, like trying to compete at 94kg when you're 153cm. then you would hit your potential before you would hit this point where you have enough mass to be competitive. but that's not realistic situation.
compare junior and world records to see the relevance of this. many of the junior records below the SHW class are proportionately closer to the world records. some are same too. tian tao's junior record equals world record, kolecki's 232kg c&j as a junior was also world record for 12 years until ilya broke it, and andrei aramnau's snatch is still both junior and world record.
for the same reason, SHWs are on average older than all other classes, and can have a slightly longer career than most olympic weightlifters. alexeev continue to break records until he was 35 and did this by becoming big beautiful man all the time. and taranenko did the 266 when he was 32.
this guy is 6'2" and a very likely good fit for SHW at that height. waiting until your already in your 30s to go SHW does not make sense from perspective of success. if you start to go SHW at 25 you will get very close to your peak after next 5-8 years. if you start to move at 32 it will be over and by the time you fit well into the class you will be too old and decreasing performance regardless it will be over and death of you while regretting your refusal to weigh more when you could have
>>35232471
>that's not realistic situation
what you just wrote is not a realistic situation for anyone who goes to this board
no one here has the resources to actually make it to shw and be competitive, the guy was most likely saying he plans on being a fatass when he's done lifting lol
>>35231889
stalker
>>35232521
>what you just wrote is not a realistic situation for anyone who goes to this board
you are confused about my post. what is unrealistic about him doing the same thing he said he might do, except several years earlier?
what i wrote is very simple to understand. it is easier to go SHW at 25 than at 33. there is no other point behind my post
i did not say anything about having the resources of a top coach, drugs, quality programming, quality training facilities, excellent genetics, and a job that pays you to train. obviously i am not expecting him to take gold at worlds by following my advice
of course the guy is free to do whatever he wants. i am saying he should take advantage of his youth and build to be stronger than he would at 105
>>35231978
Thanks man
what macro composition would be the best when trying to retain as much as muscle when cutting fat
>>35230508
Most autistic thing I read today thanks for the chuckle kid
>>35231577
You were never going to achieve that though
>>35232521
>unrealistic
Dumbass, why limit yourself if you're fucking 6 FOOT 2? Youre fucked otherwise
had my first competition yesterday and to make weight at 58kg i ate zero carbs the entire last week.
now, since yesterday after the competition i legit ate around 1 kg of chocolate.
i want to kill myself, i feel so disgusting.
>>35234869
london?
>>35235140
No, Amsterdam
>>35235399
you want some delicious cream to go with your chocolate?
anyone have any good quality pics of pisarenko? maybe even a wallpaper?
dude was a boss
>>35234869
How did comp go?
>>35236059
>pisarenko
http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Roger_Estep/Roger_Estep_001.jpg
>>35236081
https://i.imgur.com/SE0NC.png this guy
>>35236104
nice meme
>>35236104
Here you go
>>35236221
>>35236127
am i missing something?
It it thought that every lifter uses roids
But it is also known that a 200+kg squat is achievable natty. For reference if you look at these elite lifters they squat 250, 270 etc
So this would imply that roids would give you a mere ~50kg boost in strength? I think that this doesnt make sense since these guys have elite genetics, so some of them must be clean.
what do you guys think
>>35236562
Ilya's squat is 360
>>35236562
they're all stronger than i'll ever be so that means they're all on drugs
>>35236562
I have no doubt that someone can squat 300kg natty
>>35236595
really? link?
>>35236652
Klokov squat 325
>>35236679
how much does lu squat, 270?
>>35236562
I can tell that you don't even lift, and you are almost talking in pure memes. Just fucking get off the internet
>>35236694
>what is google
The post
>>35236652
he's a lying cocksucker
>>35236701
but I do
I based that post off of discussions I read here lurking over the months
>>35236730
But you don't, and if you've been lurking in this general for months then congratulations, you managed to learn nothing in that time
>>35236758
are you saying /owg/ is worthless for learning about lifting?
NEW CLARENCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI-CU9_GUd4
NEW CLARENCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI-CU9_GUd4
NEW CLARENCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI-CU9_GUd4
>>35236783
Well, yes, I wasn't saying that but it is. What I was actually saying is that you are worthless, now get out.
>>35236823
no i don't think i will, bully
>>35236788
whos dat peter parker looking faggot?
also RIP knee caps
>>35236840
Please stop posting at least until you actually start weightlifting
>>35236850
>peter parker
ITS SWOLE HARRY POTTER M80
>>35236854
i've been weightlifting for years, bully
Cleans make the front of my shoulders hurt. Not sure if it's the anterior delts or something else. Is there a well known fix?
>>35236562
I know a few people who squat 200+, are deffo natty and aren't even that special
You say it like its a real achievement which of course it is but its not like a world elite
>>35236879
Correct form, sufficient mobility and strength, and having testicles
>>35236879
Mobility.
>>35236923
I can do shoulder dislocations with a shoulder-width grip without warming up first. Since that apparently doesn't cut it, any other benchmarks for mobility I should aim at?
>>35236884
>not like a world elite
Depends on bodyweight fellow
>>35236963
There's more to upper body mobility than just shoulder dislocations
Post a video
>>35237027
Yeh fair point famalam
>>35237039
great to see young natural lifters like clarence keeping up with the big guys
>>35237087
>young
>27
>>35237107
22. clarence is a young guy
>>35237107
senpai
>>35237135
lmao desu senpai baka
l m a o t b h f a m sm h
>>35237159
your silly
>>35237169
I needed to do this to see what you said
>>35227696
is he lifting in a nightclub?
>>35237087
Natty clarry ;^)
>>35237215
>implying thats impossible natty.
>>35237087
>>35237228
That's not what I implied though m8, sweet projection. Everyone knows Clarence isnt natty.
>>35237262
Clarence is natty
Show me one failed drug test and I'll believe you
>>35237281
they have no proof
they just cant accept that clarence is genetically superior
During the pull, i always forget to go go on my toes, i fail to extend my hip.
I am very well aware of that, but it just doesn'T help when my trainer says to "remember to pull,finish you pull". I KNOW the theory, i just don't know how to DO it.
what are some exercises that could held me?
>>35237330
Pull from blocks, around thigh height.
Forces you to either extend all the way, or fail the lift.
>>35237330
One thing you might try is to have weight on ball of foot instead of full foot/heel.
>>35237340
so from above the knee?
with how much weight? talking %
>>35237357
Higher than that.
Grab the bar and stand with it in your power position. Where the bar touches your thigh is where you want to start.
>>35237281
>>35237300
I like Clarence and I've met him he's a good lad. I'm Irish and I know the gypo who he scores gear from, he's well known round here. Why do you think Clarence hasn't entered any comps since his injury? Sport Ireland are affiliated with the gym he used to train at and they keep trying to have him available for cletic nations/commonwealth selections but he keeps saying no.
Clarence won't compete for a long while 1) he likes the juice and 2) he's seeking funding but sport Ireland won't give him any. It's a catch 22. He's currently on benefits and is given somewhere to train free. I'm surprised a private company hasn't offered him stipend desu.
>>35237383
I like Kendrick and I've met him he's a good nigga. I'm African-American and I know the f-a-m who he scores gear from, he's well known round here. Why do you think Kendrick likes to claim he's natural?
>>35237443
Dumbass. I doubt youre black
>>35237621
joke
______
head
>>35237709
what?
>>35225490
Why can't ilya snatch 210kg at least, if he can easily clean 246
>>35237709
he is meta memeing
it went over YOU'RE head :^)
>>35237758
Why can't rybakou cj at least 320 he snatch 187
>>35237443
Obvs I don't know Clarence mothofok can't u tek a joke I ges not ur obv a dum
>>35237787
For most people snatch is about 25kg behind their kg, but more than fucking 46kilograms? Considering how easy it was to get it up too, It's just weird.
I
>>35236884
I know an 83 powerlifter Asian in uni def not on roids who does 245. I do 220 at 94 and by no means am I at the peak of what's naturally achievable. Donny shankle did 300 and was probably natty.
>>35237824
Why can't Lovchev snatch 240
What a retard right? He must be bad teknick like Ilya faggy ass
mattie must move up two classes. then we get sexy bbw mattie instagram. very nice
>>35237850
who is lovchev?
>>35237860
Some fat powerlifting who can't cj more than 265 lbs bad mobility very fat
>>35237860
a big guy
>>35237758
It don't work like that
The one I wonder is why can't kostova snatch way more... She is out snatch by people here who squat less and have less refined technique. Is it just different for women?
>>35237758
>>35237824
jesus just stop posting
what the hell is with /owg/ today, is it fucking idiot day or something? Is this our own new years day at the gym? when will it end?
>>35237909
What do you mean it doesn't work like that? Can't any of you come up with a reasonable explanation?
>>35237946
your an idiot
