Realistically honestly do cheat days fuck up your progress?
Saturday is my cheat day. Thats 4 days a month i eat poo poo food.
Realistically what kind of effect will this have on my weight loss progress?
>>35216642
I love cheat days
Recovering fatass here.
Should i avoid cheat days until i reach my desired weight?
>>35216642
Basicly, the amount of calories you eat above your maintainance calories, should not be a lot higher on your cheat days. it would put a stop to your progress if you strugle with eating at -500kcal each day. say if you eat 3000kcal over your maintenance, thats 6 days worth of cutting calories. does it make sense ? Dont cheat too much,
>>35216642
needing a cheat day is a meme
very few people get depleted enough to actually require alarge amount of calories and carbs
if you have it just because you enjoy life and dont want to stay on shitty food all your life then just make it fit your deficit calories or evenyour maintenance cals
Steroids are my cheat meal.
On my chest day I eat at maintenance for the day.
>>35216642
Of course not
That's the worst fucking meme in human history
>>35216919
>That image
I don't know if that's real or bait, but if it IS real, Phelps is an Olympic athlete who swims all day long. He pretty much NEEDS those calories to function.
how much fat can you actually put on in a day? Do all the calories get absorbed if Say I eat 10k cals of food?
>>35216642
I've found that eating a lot of grain, even the healthy kind, makes me bloated as fuck. But I love 2 big macs for a cheat meal
>>35217939
Id try and lower fat and up the carbs for "refeeding" bloat comes and goes
>>35217066
>>35216919
>energy drinks
Is this phelps trolling the world?
>>35216665
yes
>mfw doing keto eating bacon and cheese and tendies so I don't need cheat days
Depends on your diet on the other days and why the cheat meal. Is it for reward, carb cycling, carb back loading? If your goal is purely weight loss and for reward/cravings you should only cheat every 6 weeks, not everyweek.
I do cheat evenings, once every 10ish days
It's nice going to bed and not sweating profusely and farting everywhere
>>35216642
if you do cheat days, just don't count your daily caloric deficit...
count your WEEKLY caloric deficit instead.
this way you are essentially doing the same thing as not cheating.
i prefer /intermittentfasting/
8.5 waking hours without food and i feel fine... as soon as i feel the slightest bit of hunger, i will gorge myself on food, and feel full well under my daily caloric allotment...
shit is pretty cash, desu... eat like a pig and lose .2lb a day (on average)
>>35216665
absolutely 100000%
recovering fatass myself.
just a word to the wise, your goal weight is probably 20lb higher than it should be.
when i was 255 my goal was to get to 180lb... now that i am 182lb i see i easily have another 20lb to lose before i am truly lean (not jason blaha "lean)
just calculate your natty limit for your height
https://symmetricstrength.com/calculator/ideal_bodyweight
and realize you are NOT at the natty limit without having lifted... you have pounds and pounds of muscle to put on..
>>35217784
i would imagine it depends on your fiber intake.
if you are eating enough fiber to poop that shit out the next morning, i highly doubt you would absorb 100% of the nutrients from it (And thus not 100% the calories)
that being said, if you are eating some clog-your-shit-up food.. you might come close to absorbing it all...
i know the protein absorption limit is a myth
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23260197
(there is a maximum amount you can SYNTHESIZE, but not a maximum amount to protein anabolism overall)
>>35216642
Been cutting for over a month and haven't had any cheat days. Had a couple cheat meals for breakfast (Sausage and Egg McMuffin) on some weekends. Not planning to have a cheat day until Christmas Day. Still going to have to have so modicum of self-control because I don't want to throw out all the progress I've made. Want to be 32 waist again by mid January at the latest.
>>35217066
I always wondered why people used it as proof that they could eat whatever they want.
>Olympic athlete at the absolute pinnacle of his sport who trains all day long every day of the week eats a shitload of food just to fuel his practice sessions
>Guess I can eat 5 cheeseburgers, ice cream and cookies today because I need fuel for my forty five minute workout
>>35216642
Cheat days CAN help a lot...If you are cutting too hard,. and doing too much cardio, Eating a lot can reverse metabolic adaptation.I do a re-feed day (still 100-200 kcal under maintenance) every 3-4 days, and it helps the weight shed like Craaazy.
It's like... the first few days you cut you lose weight the fastest, and re-feeding allows you to experience that continually... Cheat days may or may not be a good way to go about that, depending on what you consider a "Cheat"
...If you are eating a surplus big enough to negate or significantly reduce your past deficit, obviously it is going to fuck up your progress.
>>35218620
>tfw you are eating way too many SFAs to be considered a healthy diet by any academic or medical authority ever.
SFAs are great, even necessary to eat in high amounts if you are at a crazy low bodyfat (sub 8%)
but if you are a fatty looking to cut, you should be eating primarily MUFAs, with some PUFAs from time to time.
no more than 7% of your calories should come from SFAs
if you want to do keto, you still absolutely can, just switch out your fats from a healthier source.
there is really no objective benefit to doing keto, however.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16403234
>>35216642
the general rule is if you have a cheat day, you aren't going to make it. simple as that.
>>35220022
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>35219710
I don't trust anything that ends in ".gov"
watch the documentary "Fathead"
>>35216642
>Realistically honestly do cheat days fuck up your progress?
Yes.
>Saturday is my cheat day.
No, it's your French day.
>Thats 4 days a month i eat poo poo food.
You're a poo poo. Eating right and healthy does NOT mean to eat poo or to eat something that tastes like poo.
From this phrase alone I can sense you're a hamplanet.
>Realistically what kind of effect will this have on my weight loss progress?
Realistically you aren't serious on your weight loss if you ask for excuses.
I've been doing keto/low carb for about two months now, during which time I've had two cheat meals. I track my weight daily and I notice that my weight loss does stall out for 3-5 days afterwards.
>>35220947
Sometimes it's nice to have a slice of chocolate cake without having to starve the rest of the day to fit it in your calorie quota
>>35220942
>doesn't trust pubmed
Just curious, what sources do you trust?
>>35216665
Noo, you'll end up binging hard if you don't allow yourself something from time to time.
As long as it's scheduled and accounted for, there's no harm in it.
>>35218620
>tfw keto
>>35221646
>who do I trust
Been published 13 times on research projects with various teams, have worked in pharma 15 years. We can spin anything to reflect a desired result when it comes to running statistics. Controlled grants for 3 yrs, show me results that shine a light on a positive aspect of my drug I represent and you'll get your grant.
Don't trust anyone, we are all about the dollar and how to make the next dollar.
>>35216642
>cheat days
for what?
chicken tastes awesome
every day is literally a cheat day for me
a healthy one lmfao
>>35221313
Then go to maintenance for the day.
The point to take away, is essentially what >>35216694 was saying
If you eat at a 500 calorie deficit for 6 days but have a cheat day on the 7th day where you eat a 3000 calorie surplus, you've basically nullified all progress for the week.
Cheat days are usually meant for you to eat sweeter foods but still fitting it in your macronutrients for the day.
Honestly though, you have to learn to make healthy foods as tasty as the shitty ones you're used to.
Use spices and seasonings but prepare to eat potassium to counteract the effects of high sodium.
>>35221757
enjoy your cancer
>>35221891
Cancer shmancer, I know several people who lost a shit ton of weight after chemo/radiation.
>>35221891
>eating food gives you cancer
>not eating food gives you death
I'll take my chances
>2015 Anno Domini
>not going for a long run to cancel out the calories before eating a cheat meal
>>35221796
>i saw a documentary, now i pretend to be a super seekret pharma insider
easy there jason blaha.. you're are autism is showing
>>35216642
Is it really cheating IIFYM? Cause them Chick-fil-a nuggets have some decent protein.
>>35222052
if you still manage the same weekly caloric deficit, and hit all your nutritional goals, it is fine.
it is generally a bad habit for most people to fall in
>>35216642
Here's what you do senpai, just fast the following day.
>>35216642
Cheat days set you back, but a lot of people need them as the hardest part of losing fat is the willpower aspect. You need to figure out what is best for you, cheat days, no cheat days or perhaps a cheat snack.
>>35222640
the whole concept of cheat days is ridiculous. as if you deserve a *regular* reward for sticking to your diet. if you break diet once in a while, fine. just log the indiscretion and move on, but don't treat eating like a pig as some kind of fucking entitlement. if you do then you're not gonna make it. plain and simple
>>35222652
and it's CHEAT MEAL. not a cheat DAY. there's no excuse for eating like a fat fuck for a whole day.
>>35222617
fast the day before
earn your cheat day, faggot
>>35222661
I just don't understand why people cheat meal. If I really want to eat out or something I just budget the calories for it and squeeze any further protein requirements into what calories I have remaining. If I'm really going all out I just allow myself to eat at maintenance that day and increase my deficit on the days before and after to make up for it.
>>35222669
>I just don't understand why people cheat meal
Because sometimes you get a craving for a Big Mac after a week of eating clean? It's not really that hard to understand if you're not autistic.
Yeah they are ok. Just push yourself hard the next day to use up those calories.
>>35222675
read the rest of his post asstard. nothing wrong with eating a big mac any day of the fucking week as long as you budget it into your calorie and macros targets.
>>35222675
so just budget the calories for it instead of trying to come up with justifications for sabotaging your deficit
>>35216642
It's bad because you'll never properly give up shit food this way.
You need to grow out of eating this stuff. If you have a planned, regular cheat day you'll see your normal diet as bad and always look forwards to eating bad food. Just cut it out cold turkey, and only 'cheat' on birthdays etc
>>35222683
>>35222686
How do you budget something you havn't planned for? The entire idea of a cheat meal is that it's unplanned. You can't 'cheat' your diet ahead of time you fucking idiots
>>35222692
good point, you'd need some sort of amazingly advanced technology to figure out calories on the fly, if only such a thing existed
also
>implying these fatasses don't plan their cheat meals/days
>>35222692
are you retarded? you having that big mac at 11:40pm after you've already eaten your entire days worth of food? then it's not a cheat it's just you being a fat fuck. you budget it either by eating less the rest of the day or eating less the day after. jesus holy christ
>>35222704
>you having that big mac at 11:40pm after you've already eaten your entire days worth of food? then it's not a cheat
That's the very definition of a cheat you braindead worthless pile of shit. A 'cheat' you work into your diet isn't a fucking cheat, that's part of your diet
>>35222711
that's the whole fucking point of the statement you were questioning earlier retard!! the fact that a cheat shouldn't happen in the first place since you can just balance the scale any way you want. "cheat days", "cheals meals" ETC are all for FUCKING FAT FUCKS who will NEVER make it
>>35222721
I think we're all in agreement here
>>35216642
>oh you know what I'm trying to quit smoking so once a week I'm going to smoke a carton because i deserve it after all my hard work!
jesus fucking christ you fucking fat faggots
how hard is it to just say no i don't want some pizza and ice cream motherfucker, i want to be thin and feel good?
IF YOU HAVE CHEAT DAYS YOU WILL NEVER MAKE IT SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL GO BACK TO WHATEVER FAT LOSER SUBREDDIT YOU CAME FROM
>>35216642
IMO there's 2 types of cheat days
>the one where you stay under your calorie limit but eat shitty food
eg 1700 cal in one day, consisting of chocolate cake and the like
>have these as often as you want, within reason. I see no issue with having these once a week
>the one where you go over your calorie limit
eg at a BBQ you are 2500 cal
>limit these at once per fortnight. And don't go on 4000 calorie binges. Relax, but don't go overboard
Seriously 90% of cutting is just a mental game
>why do you think anorexics do it so well?
>>35222878
I'd rather be able to eat pizza and icecream than be fit desu senpai. There is a happy medium, you don't need to cut yourself off from all joy in the world to look good
>>35222906
>you don't need to cut yourself off from all joy in the world to look good
said every fat piece of shit ever
it's literally 1:1
any calorie over maintenance is stored.
>>35220942
> that moment you realise the person you're talking to has no education beyond high school.
lmao
you eat fucking cakes voluntarily?
not gonna make it.
>>35222890
>cheat fucking DAYS
>binging once every 2 weeks is OK hurr
fat fuck detected
>>35222932
Angry manlet detected
>>35222938
if i'm a manlet then how come my dad pays me to black bull for your mom while he watches in the closet?
>>35222957
*your dad
>>35222957
>Nigger
It all makes sense now
>>35222962
>wait i don't have a dad
yeah we figured that one out
>>35222957
Your dad pays you to have have kuck fetish sex with older couples?
This is some vintage Jerry springer shit
>>35222932
>am actually 56kg
>5ft 7 manlet
Lol stay mad cunt
I cheat day every other Saturday because I'm usually drinking heavily anyway. Even with diet coke and vodka you sail past maintenance fast as fuck so no point.
Enjoy yourselves while you're still young anons.
>>35218620
That's not a human skull...
