>first day of cut
>low carb
is there anything worse than trying to lose weight ?
Getting fat?
>>35215768
Erdoğan be like "just fuck my shir up"
being a pussy
First week sucks after that, you will be good... Power through that shit son
>>35215768
being lonely and depressed at 40
>>35215778
That sucks, but the suffering is all backloaded
>>35215768
How fat are you currently, OP?
This is important
>>35215768
Getting your wiener stuck in your zipper
>>35215768
>low carb
being over 15% bf and not seeing a problem with it
>>35215768
It only gets worse, around 1.5-2 weeks you start dreaming of carbs and bread and shit, workouts can be so depressing if no pre workout or whatever b/c you have no energy and will not be able to lift as much. But then once you start to see your abs and getting juicy it will be the ultimate feeling of euphoria, see you at 10% m8
>>35215768
>implying cutting is harder than clean bulking
Try IF brah, it really helps curb hunger and make cuts a lot easier in my experience. Also, make sure you eat a ton of veggies, you will feel much better then if you eat shitty food on a cut
Is rice cool for a low carb diet?
Also if I were to start a low carb diet should I start by cutting bread entirely?
>>35215768
Being fat....trust me
>>35215793
Are you a cute lonely and depressed 40 year old
>>35219995
Complex carbs are your best bet but still be careful of eating too muh. Brown bread, brown rice, basmati, wholegrain. etc. are high in fibre, low insulin spike, and full of micronutrients. Scooby says to cut bread entirely but so long as you don't eat white bread you should be fine, typically if the carb is white don't touch it (potatoes, bread, rice, oats that've been processed for porridge, sugar)
>>35219913
I second this. first week is a pain, also remember to drink more water to help with your hunger cravings. Some BCAA'S will help as well. Above all don't give up.
>>35219995
>is a high carb food good on a low carb diet
Depends on what you mean by "low carb" in terms of your carb limit, but generally no
>>35215768
>low carb
Enjoy your low test
>>35215768
>low carb
enjoy your fad diet
>>35215768
>low carb
enjoy your strength losses
>>35220101
Carb does not affect test levels faggot. Fat does.
>>35215768
>low carb
>>>/trash/
>>35220146
If you lift, low carb diets increase cortisol, which decreases testosterone.
>>35220146
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2392062
>The fat-containing meal, but not the nonnutritive or mixed carbohydrate and protein meal, resulted in a significant (P less than .01) reduction in total and free testosterone.
>>35220146
I had my levels tested while cutting on keto - 500
I had them tested after a few weeks of bulking with high carbs before workouts - 650
Therefore my test went up either due to increased carbs or calories.
Lifts also went up, either from increased carb energy or higher test.
>>35220180
>if you lift
>if
>>35220028
would he be lonely and depressed if he were cute? come on now
>>35220203
Fluctuations of testosterone levels within the physiological range have no effect on muscle growth.
>>35215768
Do IF, mate. It makes cutting so much easier IMO.
>>35220212
Ugly cute still counts as cute
>>35215768
try being married and going back to college when you're /fit/ and confident
>7 to 9/10 qts spilling sketti all day
>the temptation
You think wanting carbs before bed is hard to resist?
>>35215844
20% here, sucks
>>35220371
no one has to know if you have a little snack every now and then...
>>35220371
>Come join us at the pool party anon, we heard you work out! Aww, it's so cute that you're married! Don't worry, we won't tell your wife you left the study session at the library ;)
>>35220416
>>35220457
>I've already 3 of them facebook message me to see "what I'm doing over break"
>>35220525
lol. sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
DE SIKTIR LOO
>>35215787
This. It's supposed to suck. You are literally going through withdrawal symptoms, the same way a drug addict in rehab does.
>>35219995
If you want to start a low-carb diet, here is your shopping list:
- Meat
- Eggs
- Cheese
- Non-starchy vegetables (e.g. green = good, potatoes = bad)
- Nuts (e.g. Almonds. No peanuts.)
If it's not on this list, you can't have it, at least for the first month. After that, you can start SLOWLY adding in complex carbs that are NOT sugar.
Anything that's high in sugar that you already have in the house, e.g. candy, soda, etc. just go ahead and toss that shit in the trash. After you do this for a month, you won't want it any more anyway.
>>35220791
how long should it take to lose 10 pounds of fat?
>>35220832
a month
>>35220832
You'll probably lose 10 pounds in the first week or two, but it will be mostly water weight. The sugar currently in your body retains water like a mofo.
After that you'll settle into a decent 2-ish pounds a week average, comparable to a strict calorie counter who will tell you "lol keto is a meme". But at least you get to eat meat and cheese and shit.
>>35220950
ok, im currently 200lbs at 20% bf and want to lose 10 pounds, i should be shooting for losing 2 pounds of fat a week?
>>35220791
if I have a salad for lunch, spinach,
would you recommend any sort of dressing? lemon and salt basically?
>>35221143
The best dressing is chopped veggies and meat. It's a goddamn salad now eat it you disgusting fatbody
>>35220748
>>35215787
Dunno I always feel like shit when I cut, and I usually cut for 2-3 months, I have cravings during the whole fucking time
>>35221143
As long as it has no sugar in it (or maybe at the most like 1 gram) yes you can add dressing.
Bleu Cheese is good. I actually learned how to make my own on this plan.
>>35221242
We're talking specifically low-carb/keto here. Is that what you're doing to cut?
>>35221753
that's specifically what I always do when I cut, I cut carbs completely when I'm cutting (besides the essential needed fiber to not rip my anus when taking shits) nevertheless I crave carbs all the time, all the fucking time
>>35215768
don't do restrictive dieting, you silly faggot?
carbs are important for test levels.
just eat less *food*
>>35220146
you are a retard, and why jason blaha thinks natties can't have test below 7% bodyfat.
carbs are just as crucial, maybe even more, than fats to proper test function
http://www.anabolicmen.com/carbohydrates-testosterone/
there is no "lesser" nutrient.
all three are crucially important.
don't think you can neglect fats or carbs in exchange for the other and protein.
also you are probably eating stupidly high amounts of protein, especially for the low-volume training 90% of this forum does
http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/
>>35215768
do 16 hour fasting 1-2/week and stop being a pussy ass nikka
>>35220146
>>35222060
>In this study, the researchers divided their subjects into 2 groups. The other group ate a high-carb low-protein diet, whereas the other group ate a high-protein low-carb diet. Fat intake and calories were identical. Ten days into the study, the results showed that the high-carb group had significantly higher free testosterone levels (+36%), lower SHBG levels, and lower cortisol levels when compared to the high-protein low-carb group.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3573976
(full-text in link below)
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/19587902_Diet-Hormone_interactions_ProteinCarbohydrate_ratio_alters_reciprocally_the_plasma_levels_of_testosterone_and_cortisol_and_their_respective_binding_globulins_in_man
so.. carbs are arguably MORE important for test than fats.
eat your fucking carbs, you broscientist ketards
>>35222079
dude that sounds like a miserable fasting schedule.
6-8 waking hours a day is preferable, imo. drink some black coffee and do some light walking (or similar level intensity cardio) to blunt appetite.
maybe have a a piece of fruit to replenish liver glycogen if hunger pangs don't go away after ~15 mins.
keep yourself distracted and the time flies by.
after my fast, my ghrelin levels are so high i feel full well under my allotted calories for the day (especially if i eat highly satiating foods)
>>35222087
you need to actually get into ketosis before keto starts working. 10 days is nothing.
>>35222105
Hi Greg
>>35222110
Insulin and IGF-1 stimulate androgen synthesis. Your ketosis garbage would only make matters worse.
Go vegan and skip all the bullshit about lowering carbs and shit like that, down 5 kilos after going vegan and my 3 main lifts are still growing plus I'm lean as hell
