How did 19th century bodybuilders/strongmen get so fucking jacked? Most people would accuse these guys of being on gear if they were alive today
Lol'd at Dorian Yates
Oral testosterone supplementation.
Fresh from the testes, if you know what I mean.
Higher testosterone levels, mainly. I've read somewhere that they had literally double what we have now.
>>35195412
>dorian yates
fuckin kek'd
>>35195412
The extremelly low bf levels helped them look even more jacked. These guys there look like they trained all day long, and of course they didn't eat the shitty food we eat today.
I've seen people on /fit/ accuse some of them of cocaine use, but i have no idea if that's true or not.
something to consider is they had easy access to the best possible proteins (wild game meat). There is a huge difference in protein quality between a freshly killed deer and frozen chicken breasts, a can of tuna or most proteins sources us 21st century niggas rely on. Everything they ate was organic and they didn't have gain goblins such as Doritos or wasting 5 hours a day on 4chan
>>35195614
A lot of the guys used cocaine to cut. I'm not at all too familiar with the guys unlike I am with Zyzz but knowing the time a lot of them came from, cocaine wasn't as frowned upon as it is now and many folks used it to stay awake during the late nights.
>bottom row, second from the left
>>35195412
they trained all day
ate REAL F00D
used cocaine and other shit because people aren't butthurt about using le drugs like they're now
>19th century
>dorian yates
>>35195614
>and of course they didn't eat the shitty food we eat today
Read about the Saxon brothers' diet. Those niggas put SS to shame.
>>35197286
Bloody hell
>>35195412
>>35195518
this and also manual labor were much more common
>>35197455
they were tough guys
>>35195617
>5 hours
i wish
>>35195771
Stfu Fgt
Newfag here.
Who is the second one on the top row?
>>35195412
fucking yates
half century ago general testosterone levels were the double of test levels of today; and by that time, it was already half of the tests levels of a century ago. plus, these men were outliers blessed with good genes.
>>35198057
>half century ago general testosterone levels were the double of test levels of today; and by that time, it was already half of the tests levels of a century ago
source? this is interesting to hear
>>35195412
Leaving aside Yates and all that... /fit/ will scream roids at basically anything.
That said, when it comes to the Strongmen of those days you're talking about the cream of the crop, being paid well enough to make lifting their profession.
>>35200392
It's a preventative measure hardcoded in DNA, to prevent a population from over-breeding in a situation with all survival needs met and no natural predator.
Comfy living = No survival mindset = no test
Plus, all the high test dudes were killed in WW2
They lifted fucking weights instead of shitposting.
>>35197455
all that food probably cost them $10 / day
fuck inflation f4m
>>35200439
all this epic bro science lmao
>>35200518
In terms of cost to average salary, food's about the cheapest its ever been right now.
>>35195412
50% Calisthenics, 25% cardio, 25% lifting.
Organic food, discipline and you look like him in 18 months.
>>35200439
>all the high test dudes were killed in WW2
What is the reason testosterone is declining with each new generation?
What can we do to reverse it? Abandoning most technology and reverting back to older lifestyles with new knowledge?
>>35201752
Its not.
>>35201752
test isn't going down
fat and laziness in general is just going up
>>35201752
The majority of it is just a correlation with different lifestyles now vs then, rather than an objective causal link
Although that being said, there is definitely a pronounced drop in testosterone even taking in to account other factors. I don't think science has an answer for it yet.
>>35201778
Estrogen is going up, look it up.
Because it was expensive and rare to get film for a picture, so if you only get one shot better make it count either that or early version on photoshop
>>35195786
>is black and white photo
>must be pre 1910
you can even see the modern gym equipment in the background
>>35200518
>$10 / day
$10 could buy you a house back then, faggot
>lrn2inflation
>>35195412
Genetics
>>35198057
>damage controlling this hard
This isn't even a little true. You aren't making gains because you're a fucking pussy.
>>35202915
>muh estrogen
You're worse than the fatfucks blaming genetics for the spike in obesity
DYELs and landwhales where made for eachother
Bodybuilders back then trained years and years to achieve what modern bodybuilders can achieve within one year tops.
>do 120 reps of curls with 12lbs
>if you can do 120 you can switch to 13lbs
>do 120 again, repeat
I'm not making this shit up. They had zero knowledge about weightlifting.
all of them have disproportionally small chest, did they lack barbells or what ?
>>35200439
>all the high test dudes were killed in WW2
This meme needs to die. I don't remember men getting to choose if they go to war or not.
>>35203381
>estrogen isn't the reason women pack fat in the ass and thighs
>estrogen isn't a sign of fertility
>that's not the reason why "men like curves"
Never change, autismobot.
>>35195518
test levels doesn't correlate that much with how easy it is to pack on mass. test receptiveness does however.
>>35203424
Large chests were considered to be feminine back then, so it's on purpose. They didn't have the same aesthetic ideals as we have now.
I get that it fits with the whole narrative of modern society making men a bunch of weak pussies, but can someone explain to me how the fuck testosterone levels were measured a century ago? You know, without all that molecular biology shit we got these days.
Even if there was a way to do it, the measurements must have been imprecise as hell... That alone probably explains levels being higher then.
>>35203496
When did I say that? Are you literally retarded?
>>35195412
better food
active lifestyles
no pesticides and plastics feminizing them
violent masculine lifestyles
LOTS of cocaine
>>35200439
>Plus, all the high test dudes were killed in WW2
Fucking retarded.
>>35200518
>Not understanding real vs nominal value
>>35203733
>better food
No
>no pesticides
No. Plus horrible industrial chemicals from factory jobs
>or plastics feminizing them
dank meme
>violent masculine lifestyles
Like working 16 hours a day packing meat? Lel
Face it autismos we have more and better of everything now than we ever had. The fact that you still can't get swole is a testament to your own laughable lack of discipline
>>35195412
They understood the concept of HARD WORK. You put in time, effort, and patience, and you will get results. If you jump around to different routines every month, drink too much alcohol, eat too much shit food, and never push yourself to your limit, you will never get great results.
Kids today try to science their shit. "If I eat this exact amount of protein, and get this exact amount of carbs, I'll make godly gains!" and they forget to just fucking lift.
>>35203780
>>better food
>No
Yes, take a look at their diets. They were fucking brilliant.
>>no pesticides
>No. Plus horrible industrial chemicals from factory jobs
Yes, none of the pesticides we have today. Worst they had to deal with had to do with coal.
>>or plastics feminizing them
>dank meme
Not a meme.
>>violent masculine lifestyles
>Like working 16 hours a day packing meat? Lel
Yes, like fighting for their lives, fighting against each other, having loud arguments in the street and getting into fights, you know, what men do.
>>35195412
Mostly because they didn't search for tons of excuses and talked about natty limit..They tried to break it instead
>>35200439
If we ignore the last sentence, your post actually could make sense.It would explain bunch of feminine boys in middle upper class in US compared to boys in rural areas of the world who have it harder thus have to fight more
>>35203780
Testosterone has been declining for as long as they've studied it now.
>>35203562
OOOH, so I guess pinning Test E 100mg each day won't do much of anything unless you're RECEPTIVE to testosterone
God dang.
>>35203803
Lot of those dudes were professional strong men and had to work for a living.
So running themselves into the ground with exercise was not optimal
They had focused workouts that left them feeling energized and refreshed afterwords.
Many did some heavy ass lifting for a little while then did no other exercise for the rest of the day.
As for jumping around, consistency is key but a lot of them tried a lot of different shit and never stuck to one thing for long.
To be able to show their strength in any endeavor was thier true aim.
Something like powerlfting or modern strong man was mostly considered something to do for rubes and to break bread.
They did real feats of strength to earn their way in life and couldn't dick around like the gym guys of today.
>>35198057
>i can't make it cause of my testosterone levels
>>35200439
>all the high test dudes were killed in WW2
oh man that one exceeded my imagination
>>35195412
you underestimate the natty limit
>>35197455
Son Goku ain't got nuffin on these fools.
>>35203428
>I don't remember men getting to choose if they go to war or not.
>the military is entirely made up of draftees
idk but I'd go back in time to lick all of those abs
>>35203381
You are ignorant AS FUCK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anGiwZH8agY
>>35203583
>Large chests were considered to be feminine back then
LOL... back then......
>>35195518
>>35195614
>>35195771
>>35195789
>>35198057
>>35200439
>>35202915
>>35203733
>>35203836
>Higher Test
>Cutting with drugs
Cite a source, you mongoloids.
>>35202915
Testosterone is going down and estrogen is going up because people are getting fatter. It's that simple. Adipose tissue is an endocrine organ and has a direct relationship to sex hormone levels.
Want a good hormone profile? Don't be fat.
>>35195518
This desu, they did a study and found out kids born pre depression and WW2 in america tend to have 29% higher test than modern day males
Tbh it was only after WW2 that murica males become bitches
>>35204235
Seems legit as only the low test betas stayed home
>>35195412
Most are manlets.
>>35203818
Lol you are so full of shit
Lots of cocaine, also men back then had higher testosterone levels. environment was much cleaner and healthier, they didn't use much plastics and there was no wifi. Both of those things fuck up your testosterone levels.
>>35203713
>Even if there was a way to do it, the measurements must have been imprecise as hell... That alone probably explains levels being higher then.
Took measurements from older men and corrected for age? Not sure anymore, I forgot.
>>35204252
Bs. America had like 3% losses overall from the war
If you said europe sure but not america
>>35195412
They were the outliers, so they were gifted with .001% genetics. Theres a reason they became strongmen, they were already strong to begin with
Now with roids you could stil be that 1/10000 gifted natty but nope, youre probably one of the other 9999
>>35204228
Being fat doesnt lower your test levels you dipshit,
It raises the aromatazing rate of test INTO estro. Being fat raises your estro levels, it doesnt lower your test levels
>>35202915
because increased bf% = increased estrogen
people aren't weak and fat because they're low test, they're low test because they're weak and fat
the modern sedentary lifestyle and our fucked up nutrition is to blame
>>35203836
Testosterone has been declining since hundreds of thousands of years ago you fucking retard. Wanna know why almost all depictions of cavemen/primitive homo sapiens are hairy, dumb, strong brute with wide jaws and pronounced brow ridge (i.e sign of high test)? Thats because they WERE the very definition of 'high test'.
Decline of testosterone is the reason we have progressed this far as civilization. Thats literally the reason we went from "oogs booga me hit u head with club take ur women" into civilized humans able to tolerate each other's presence
>>35204296
>wifi fucks up test levels
Wut
>>35204478
Low test faggot detected
>>35195412
SS+GOMAD
>>35197455
you gotta be pretty stupid if you dont understand that this is part of their circus act
I bet you buy those dwayne johnson cheat day photos too
>>35204522
http://www.increase-testosterone.info/testosterone-sperm-wifi-and-mobile-phones/
Also, if you google wifi testosterone you will find many info about this subject
>>35195412
plz
>>35203837
bringing your test levels to the higher range of normal by injecting won't really do shit, yeah
that's why it would be retarded as fuck to do that
>>35203776
kek. DAAAMN YOU INFLATION!!!
>>35200439
bruh
>>35203780
>The fact that you still can't get swole is a testament to your own laughable lack of discipline
this
>>35206772
DAM YOOYU ENFLATEEEON
*tips*
>>35195412
for some reason most of them look like shit to me but I can't quite put my finger on it. I think it's the shoulders or shitty upper body overall
