Why have you never tried rack pulls? Why are you doing deadlift all the time? I find rack pulls far better.
>>35133998
i do rack romanian deadlifts
checkmate
I deadlift primarily for hamstrings and glutes, none of which are being hit on a rack pull. Rackpulls are a meme exercise that just do nothing besides tire out the skin on your hands.
>>35134010
Haha that's nothing to do with deadlifts or rack pulls. Enjoy your DYEL body.
>>35134034
>ddoing eadlifts for back of legs
>thinks rack pulls are a meme
>>35133998
Rack pulls are literally an assisted deadlift.
It's like standing on a ladder and dunking a basketball.
Rack pulls are good to bring up your grip strength but they are by no means a deadlift replacement.
>>35134081
I do rack pulls for back, I don't want to work legs on my back day. Unless you've tried them, don't knock them. I made amazing progress with them.
>>35134100
Do you have legs the next day or something?
Rack pulls are cool and all, but I wouldn't even try to suggest that they're something like a replacement for deadlifts.
I mostly think of them as something powerlifters do to help get up their deadlift.
>>35134081
>Rack pulls are literally an assisted deadlift.
No, they have a smaller range of motion allowing you to overload and handle more weight than normal, which assists pulling from the floor because 1) you're exposing your CNS to heavier weights and letting yourself become accustomed to them so the feel will be familiar when you pull it from the floor 2) it's strengthening your lockout, a sticking point for many people.
>It's like standing on a ladder and dunking a basketball.
No, it's like using reverse bands for squats, or a Slingshot for bench.
>they are by no means a deadlift replacement.
Yes, they can be. It depends on your goals.
>>35134115
But with sealift you are working your legs and back, rack pull is just for back.
Why would I want to work legs and back in the same session??
>>35134112
I do legs twice a week, no point doing them again on back day.
>>35134137
This guy is the only person who is not DYEL itt except me, op.
Well said m8, you will go far.
>>35134081
fuckin what.
hold up nigga im gonna google a picture to really drive home how i feel about ur comment
mfw i read ur stupid fucking comment.
>>35134146
I have a heavy squat day followed by light dead variation, then a heavy deadlift day followed by light squat variation.
>>35134176
Good for you.
I don't.
>>35134176
>Working legs 4 times a week
>>35134238
I typed it out weird but I figured most people would be smart enough to put it together. I do legs twice a week.
>>35134247
Wtf is deadlift/light squat variation? And why are you going 'light'? Are you seriously doing deadlift and squat on same day twice a week??
>>35134275
>Are you seriously doing deadlift and squat on same day twice a week??
Not that guy but that's what I do.
Volume on Monday and intensity on Friday.
Your other 2 questions are retarded.
>>35134275
Do you not know what variation means? Also deadlifting and squatting on the same day is 100% fine.
>>35134291
Both your bodies must look like shit then.
>>35134306
Are you trolling?
If you say you are doing a variation of the squat, that means you are not performing a standard squat. The question is simple: what do you do differently?
>>35133998
aesthetic fags
>>35134171
You sniffed your hand that's fucking weird
>>35134342
What??
>>35134320
What are you not understanding? Beginning of the week I do heavy squats followed by a deadlift variation (stiff leg, deficit, whatever I feel will help any weak points of my deadlift)
The next leg day I do heavy deadlifts followed by a squat variation (front, hack, whatever)
>>35134308
Standard Texas method template. Hit a lot of PR's that way.
>>35134362
>starting with deadlifts on leg day.
Fuck me, pls gfto dyel noob.
>>35134381
>not ending with deadlift on serratus anterior day
You'll never make it
>>35134362
Dat routine
>>35134389
Cool story. Bet your gainz are grreat.
Because rackpulls are for
>fat people who cant bend enough to pick up the weight
>dyels who think doing 450lb thigh-high rack pulls are impressive
Only real men do deadlifts.
/Thread
>>35134100
>I dont want to work legs on my back day
You sound like a fucking pussy
>>35134034
>deadlifts aren't meme eercise
>>35134381
>>35134390
Been making consistent gains and am now past 4/3/2/1 in about 9 months. Seems okay to me
>>35134404
You obviously don't work hard enough then.
Dyel with shit body confirmed.
>>35134138
Why wouldnt you?
Deadlifting hits my glutes, hamstrings and back. If you do rack pulls, you will need to add in glute bridges and a hamstring exercise when you could have done it all with a deadlift.
>>35134362
Kek, holy shit
>>35134397
Frustrated teenage dyel fail troll detected.
>>35134397
>confirmed for not being able to dl 405
>>35134428
>>35134429
DL 500 for a triple reporting in
>>35134137
this
>>35134381
>>35134390
>i don't understand anything about programming for intermediate lifters or dup
>>35134429
HAHAHAHAHA fucking REKT
>>35134415
Are you retarded?
>>35134137
>the feel will be familiar when you pull it from the floor
But the muscles you actually need to pull it from the floor arent being strengthened by a rack pull, so you are not in any better position just by knowing what it feels like.
Even if rack pulls are good for getting over plateaus, for coming back from injuries, etc, they should not be your primary lift as OP is suggesting.
>>35134434
>estatting on a taiwanese basket weaving board
>>35134434
Nice estat kid.
>>35134434
dl 750 for 6 reporting in
get rekt m8
>>35134441
In YOUR opinion.
>>35134452
Dl ur mum for 2 reporting in.
>>35134450
>>35134452
>DYELS thinking 500 for a triple is extremely impressive
>>35134437
Nope, but you're a confirmed DYEL.
>>35134471
We dont think its extremely impressice we just dont think YOU can do it
You probly do 420x5 with shit back snap form
>>35134464
No. The muscles used to pull weight off the floor are not strengthened by a rack pull. That is not an opinion. That is a fact.
As for whether they should be your primary lift, I suppose you could call that a matter of opinion. If you want to do three exercises instead of one, dont let me stop you.
>>35134471
I don't care what weight I use, only what form I use and what I look like. These fucking gay numbers for lifts are for youngsters who are obviously new to weights.
>>35134493
>fact
Says who?
>>35134488
>>35134494
>I can't lift that much so I don't think you can either :(
>>35134471
no
we just think that you're estatting
>>35134505
post the video estatfag
anybody can talk shit
>>35134503
Says anyone who knows anything about lifting. Learn something retard. http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/ErectorSpinae/BBRackPull.html
>>35134514
>>35134523
I'm not even the guy claiming 500 for a triple, just someone calling out the DYEL fags on /fit/. Go back to your rack pulls
>>35134390
I almost do the same.Deadlift and Squats on the same day 2 times a week.I don't look like shit
Doing a rack pull with a mixed grip really doesn't seem to have any point to me. That is like "yep, my arms are attached to my body"
>>35134557
ok Jeff
sure
>>35134562
Your photo shows almost none of the muscles worked by a squat or a deadlift.
>>35134100
>back day
Stopped reading
>>35134505
I never said I can't use a lot of weight, only that I don't get bogged down in stats.m
It's obvious you don't go anywhere near weights. How's that jogging going son??
>>35134562
You'll grow with almost any exercise being that young.
>>35134770
>I dont get bogged down in stats
So you don't work off percentages? And you say Im the one who doesn't lift? Top fucking kek
>>35134362
Why are people making fun of this. It's a great approach.
>>35134562
Teenager with low body fat. No muscle really.
>>35134723
I spotted the crossfit dude
>>35134791
Percentages of what? I don't have a plan before I go to train, I decide when I'm in there. I might feel like doing 10 sets of 10, higher reps, drop sets etc, the weight is not important. Let me guess, you do 1rp and pb's.
Kek.
>>35133998
Thank you for reminding me that I should start doing rackpulls again. Best upper back exercise in existance.
>>35134827
Was this a troll all along? You got me
>>35134840
In other words, you can't comeback to that.
Dyel confirmed. Enjoy.
>>35134827
>calls others DYEL
>goes into the gym and wings it
>>35134833
i dont understand how people think rack pulls do anything for their upper back?
You hinge at the pelvis.. Nothing in the upper body does any work except for statically holding the weight....
Go do some fucking rows you idiots
Rack pulls are for people that just want to inflate there ego and don't want to actually be strong. I bet you faggots are the same people who quarter squat with 2pl8s and feel like you accomplished something.
>>35134873
Haha. I don't wing it, I know what works for my body and decide when I'm there. I may get pumped up to go heavy all day, then just feel like going lighter when I get in. I go by feel. But then you know my body better than me.
>>35134880
So you've never actually done a rackpull.
>>35134903
Holy shit you're actually serious aren't you?
>>35134880
That's funny, I made better gains when I switched to rack pulls 1 year ago. Bet you've never even tried them, but are mocking them.
>>35134914
Well if you are, you are a definite dyel or fail trol.
>>35134903
>curls the pink dbs
>I just do whatever bro
>>35134903
Your body works like everyone else's. If you want progress there has to be structure. Enjoy plateauing and making no gains for the rest of your life.
>>35134914
So let me get this straight: you know exactly the lifts, poundages and weights you'll be using days beforehand and hit them all EXACTLY everytime and never do one single thing different from that when you get in gym? Is that what you are saying?
Please think carefully before replying.
>>35134939
>projecting this hard
>>35134922
I tried them before, was able to lift laughably heavy weights without feeling anything... and discarded them as being an ego lift
>>35134948
Yes.
Today I know I'm going to do:
Squat 177.5kg 5x1
Bench 95kg 8x3 then 75kg 3x8
Deadlift 210kg 5x1
I also know my workouts for the next 2 weeks.
>>35134942
There is a structure, I just might do higher reps when I was set to do lower for example. Or I might switch an exercise. I like to keep my body guessing. But then you know best.
>>35134973
>I like to keep my body guessing
Alright. You got me.
8/10 troll
>>35134922
how exactly are you measuring "progress" anyway, if you don't even know what weights you'll lift
>>35134964
>without feeling anything.
>no mind muscle connection
Rookie lifter confirmed.
>>35134983
What I look like in the mirror. Let me guess, you weigh yourself erry day..
>>35134981
You've still made no viable comeback except to call people troll.
Stay dyel 4life kido.
>>35134985
>mind muscle connection
>being a thing
shut the fuck up you fucking guy
>>35135029
Le ebin trolle m4+4!!!1
>>35135029
>mind muscle connection
>being a thing
Not the guy you're arguing with, but are you implying mind-muscle connection isn't a thing...? Because I have one. And if it's not a thing, I'd like to know what it is.
>>35135029
That's why you have no back :)
>>35134965
Spot the guy who has whey for breakfast
>>35134010
Sumo rack pulls here
>get fucked dyel fuckbois trying to talk shit
>>35133998
But I do have block pulls in my programming.
In fact I'm supersetting block pulls at 110% and deadlifts at 90% today.
>>35134441
>they should not be your primary lift as OP is suggesting.
Tell that to Boris sheiko fambam. One of his programs has only rack pulls and deadlifts to the knee.
>>35135347
>supersetting deadlift
Hhaahhaahhaahahhahahahaahahahhaahaahahhahahahahaahahhaha
>>35135347
Enjoy snap city.
>>35135495
>>35135501
>I have been doing SS for 3 months and have never seen the inside of a powerlifting gym
Come the fuck on.
>>35135495
>>35135501
do you guys even lift?
>>35135512
Please can you speak properly and not in this childish Internet patwa, I don't even know what you mean.
>>35135347
Are you doing like one of each?
Surely at those percentages you can't do any amount of volume on either, or your 1rm is set stupidly low for some reason.
>>35135524
Yes, for many years, never ever seen or heard of anyone supersetting with deadlift, not even on the net. You are a first.
Crack on though kid, bet you swole as fuck.
>>35135536
Triples.
My training max is at 200kg.
>>35135558
This is really common in newer styles of high frequency programming. I know it hasn't really made it to America yet.
>>35135558
>Yes, for many years, never ever seen or heard of anyone supersetting with deadlift, not even on the net. You are a first.
ok, if someone like you have never heard of it it must be stupid.
>Crack on though kid, bet you swole as fuck.
yeah, tell that to the norwegian national team. I'm sure they're very interested in your opinion.
>>35135611
I'm not American.
Please can you link to any data supporting your claim.
>>35135347
Can you explain what this superset does exactly..?
>>35135646
Well this is how we train here in Norway now. The russian style of training is also very similar.
I'm sure you can find lots of articles on this stuff with a simple google search.
>>35135637
Is this meant to convince anyone that your superset is laughable?
>>35135660
I don't know, I haven't asked. But I do what my program says.
All I know is that this type of programming produces some of the best natural powerlifters in the world.
>>35135682
it's meant to communicate to you that I don't give a shit about your uninformed opinion. I'm not the guy doing the supersets, btw.
>>35135665
>we
Kek
>>35135704
Yes?
We as in members of a federated PL club here. The vast majority of us use this type of programming.
>>35135683
>don't know
>haven't asked
Novice misguided lifter confirmed
>>35135716
Stats? Pics?
>>35135732
185/110/210
No pictures, sorry.
>>35135749
Lol
>>35135683
>raves about his routine
>doesn't know what it actually does
>>35135767
Sorry for not owning a camera nor being that interested in how I look.
>>35135782
All I know is it gets results, it doesn't make me super tired, I have no aches and these principles produce very good natural athletes.
>>35134010
Aren't those just shrugs
>>35135809
What's weight/rep for your supersets??
>>35135943
And suddenly he left when got asked a difficult question.
>>35133998
what's the difference between rack pulls and RDL?
is that just that you pull it from the bars and make it a real dead weight?
deadlift from blocks > rack pulls
if the bar is around knee level or higher it's just ego lifting desu, but putting it midshin, maybe 10-20cm blocks depending on height can be good training effects
>>35136439
So just 2 inches higher has no effect whatsoever? Is that what you are saying? Please extrapolate.
>>35136439
Citation or pics needed.
>>35136988
DYELs always leave at this point.
>Rack pulls
Enjoy your bendy bars. Pulling from blocks is better since the bar won't get slammed on the safety bars and it will lay "still" in the beginning of the pull.
>>35137670
>implying you will ever lift more than will bend teh bar
>>35137717
the bars at my gym all begin to bend around 180kg, which really isn't a lot in the grand scheme of things, especially for deadlifts
>>35133998
If you're going to do partial deadlifts do block pulls. Pulling out of a rack is too different to a normal dead
>>35137717
>implying you will ever lift more than will bend teh bar
some bars start to bend at relatively light weights, and if you're setting/dropping any bar down on a rack at speed it will whip to an extent if it has more than 3-4 plates on it
>>35135532
>patwa
Using words you've heard and never seen written down, kek?
Patois
>>35137734
Crossfit gym.
>>35137807
>at speed
Pls tell us more pro tips senpai.
>>35137894
First time I've ever had to spell it, due to your embarrassing post.
Do post an eloquent reply to prove us wrong though, bruv.
>>35137774
Exactly, I want it to be different. I want my legs involved as least as possible.
DYELs left.
>>35139431
>you are dyel if you dont do my half-rep exercise
Top fucking laugh, 8/10 troll thread
>>35134434
So youre telling me you set up 5plate and find 2x 2.5lb penny plates to make it 500lbs. And then do a triple. You know how stupid that looks. You'd think after 405 you could figure out that maxes are usually within 10-20lbs depending on how youre feeling. This isn't the bench press where microloading makes a Difference.
>>35139504
Please tell us you routine braahhh
>>35139504
You already did your 8/ 10.
Now step up.
What's you weights and sets???
>>35139939
They always BACK OUT
>>35134723
you sound fat.
