Want to start my first cycle of
500mg test e 1-12 weeks
40mg dbol 1-4 weeks
PCT will be Nolvadex
Stats
5' 10" 180lb 15%bf
4 years training
1) What age are you?
2) you are two fat
3) if that picture is of you after 4 years training then stay well away from juice until you have a consistent and successful routine of diet and workouts which acc. to that picture, you do not
Those must be some weak ass steroids.
>>35133772
>4 years
wat
>>35133772
4 years
>>35133772
>what to expect from first cycle
>4 years training
>that pic
>15%bf
lmaoo, please be troll
r8 my gains
>>35134737
yet another SS victim..
You are nowhere near your natural limit based on that picture. Also, don't add more than one new drug at a time (drop Dbol until next time). Finally, blast and cruise - cycling is more dangerous, more expensive, and far less effective. Everyone here hates him, but if you can find Jason Blaha's comments on gear, listen to them. Lobliner (Tiger Fitness) also knows what he's talking about in that regard.
>>35134737
leg routine please
what to expect
>hoog gains
>feeling like you're a king for the first 8 weeks, then feeling like you need to be on more gear for the last 4
>probably staying on gear forever
>getting super puffy, then getting less puffy when you drop the dbol
just go for it. I was way behind you when I started roiding and I don't regret it in the slightest.
When do you start lifting bro? You know taking steroids will not magically give you muscles, you still have to lift.
>500mg test
why do you dumb young faggots go so much overboard with it?
why not just add 50% to your natural secretion, which is like 50mg?
>>35134765
> I was way behind you when I started roiding and I don't regret it in the slightest.
You should never give any advice anymore.
That's why you are fucking dyel and always will be.
>>35133772
i'd advise you to start lower dose (350mg) test- only cycle
see how you respond to test solely
2nd cycle can be done with dbol and test as you've witten
although you should've been a bit more developed for 4 years (i started with gear after 4.5 years of power routines and already had good development and 560kg total)
(a bit lower bodyfat would be more optimal)
watch for sideffects and do blood test prior to your first injection just too se where you stand
i'd also advise you to do blood test post cycle
also,
welcome to the gains-world
>>35134789
If I take enough gear I won't be dyel
I strongly disagree with the recommendations that you lower the dose, UNLESS you are getting it from a doctor. Otherwise, 500 is standard and ensures that you're not basically getting TRT due to UGL dilution / impurity.
>>35133772
Kek at all these faggots in this thread.
Watching your stats and that pic, i can conclude you didn't do enough adequate research. No offense, but you like shit for 4 years training and probably will make NO gains while on gear because you don't have enough knowledge on routines/diet etc. Steroids aren't MAGIC. If you can't gain as a natty you WONT gain on cycle.
I feel sorry for you, that's why i will give you the right advice.
Drop down to at least 10% bodyfat, because you're gonna use dbol that will aromatize like hell. With your current bodyfat and ignorance you will probably end up with either puffy nipples or gyno. AND PLEASE, gather more knowledge regarding DIETING and ROUTINES.
pic related is me before i started gear. fucking normies
>>35134898
>Steroids aren't MAGIC.
true
>If you can't gain as a natty you WONT gain on cycle.
lie
Not OP but saw this thread so thought I'd ask.
Anybody here have any experience with Mechano Growth Factor?
Is it growth where it's injected or is that broscience and it's systematic?
Add exemestane too OP.
Don't worry, its cheap stuff.
>>35134925
You're naive and believe in fairytales. Yes you will gain(water weight and glucose)
I have seen many examples irl, that did gear and had shit results. I wonder why..
"Carry coals to Newcastle". Gear can be magic, if you use if for good purpose and not with a retarted yolo brain. Especially when you have shit genetics.
Fucking yolo's nowadays use gear and look worse than a natty. You're ruining your body for SHIT results. If you wanna take the risk, at least do it to look like a fucking greek titan. ffs
>visit /fit/ occasionally
>every single time mastest is there shitposting, without a fail
does this guy have anything else in his life or what
I mean he's a tripfag on 4chan so I'm not expecting much, but come on
>>35134898
Not him but how long did u lift natty? What age did u start? What was your body like when you started? Mirin hard
>>35135019
aww look at this faggot, i made him insecure again.
He tries to insult me, with his meaningless faggotry twinky words. At least i have enough proof that my advice works. You're the one that shit post.
CONTRIBUTING only cancer and fedora's. Believe in your fairytales and stay dyel and mad. kek
>>35135060
I'm not the guy you were talking to, literally came here 10 minutes ago and you were the first thing I saw again, surprise surprise
Good job fitting all those epic memes in one post though
>>35135039
4 years as a natty.
was like 21-22 when i started
>What was your body like when you started
>>35134898
that picture was when i just started. Was still natty back then.
All these pictures were pre-roids.
>>35135095
What a shitty counter argument... suprise suprise..
You don't have any contructive to say, so stfu and let the big people talk. You sound like a infantile.
my advice;
turn off your pc, this board has already enough simplistic idiots like you
>>35133772
4 years to look like that??!! Damn son, you need to pick heavy shit first. What are your big 3?
>>35135124
>All these pictures were pre-roids.
then why even roid ?
nice troll m8
>>35135735
agreed either hes a liar or an idiot for roiding when he looked like that natty
