/OWG/ - A thread for the discussion of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults and shitposting to a minimum.
>Accessories Edition
>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
http://pastebin.com/1HgVcGam
http://pastebin.com/wCXeXfkk
http://www.chinfl.blogspotco.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq
http://www.iwf.net/doc/technical.pdf
http://yashathoughts.com/
>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.
Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists
Red Lights
>>35092636
Dear nikeweightlifting,
Step up senpai, your account has become /b/ tier.
>tfw only one platform at my shit-tier gym
>fat fuck power lifter (literally morbidly obese) comes in and starts doing 1/8th 3pl8 squats while i am warming up on my clean and press
>eyeing me down the whole time (i have no idea why, i assumed it was because he saw babyweight on the bar when i was doing warm-up sets, but after i moved to big-boy weight he was still giving me stink-eye)
>just ignore him and move on to snatch pulls
>pig literally snorts. i have no idea why, but continue on with my workout without acknowledging his existence
>guy just kinda lurks around the squat rack breathing super heavy from his 3 sets of 3 intense workout brah
>finally finish my last set of oly-related lifts, walk to the upstairs for bodybuilding area
>see him going to the platform to deadlift
i felt like a retard for not realizing he wanted to deadlift.. but at the same time, there is only 220lb total of bumper plates in my shit-tier gym so.. i don't know what he was planning to do with that.. i just assumed it was oly only, as it seemed too little to dead.
also he could have set something but still..
I don't know where i was going with that story but it was interesting to see /plg/ in real life
2 m8 saying
>then eat
im probably gonna set up a proper meal plan seeing as i live at home and i can just use rents money for food
>>35120623
>big-boy weight
>220lb total of bumper plates
HEY
>>35120570
why do you think he comes here?
those memes are normie as fuck rn
your tendons get shortened and you're from now on only allowed to perform 6 stretches to get to competitive mode again. which ones do choose?
>>35121422
such cute face mattie creates
>>35121471
please addition more mattie video
Just making a transition over to training the snatch/C&J after a couple of years of powerlifting (best lifts were 440/255/460, tfw long arms). I understand the clean pretty well with regards to keeping the bar close and having a vertical path, but I'm having trouble with two specific things: one, the snatch in general, specifically keeping the bar close after the third pull (I have a tendency to let it swing out in front of me instead of coming up and getting under the bar); and two, getting under the bar doing any jerks/push presses. I've got relatively strong overhead strength, I pressed 190x2 at a 188 bodyweight not too long ago so it's not like I'm unfamiliar with having heavy weight above me. Any suggestions?
FWIW, I'm using the 70s Big weightlifting transition template, which is basically snatch/C&J Monday and Thursday, back squat/press/rows Tuesday, front squats/bench/RDLs Friday. Been trying to drill technique as much as possible by using a combination of the Pendlay teaching process and Mike Burgener's snatch progression.
>>35121552
>best lifts were 440/255/460, tfw long arms
this is no unusual ratio in powerlifting why are you "tfw arms" as comment?
>>35121304
yes
>>35121552
Drill highpulls from the hips with the bar before you snatch, progressively start lower and lower until you are at the height the bar is with bumper plates. Go to a full snatch after. Make sure you stay over the bar (think big chest) and use your legs, not just bang it with your hips
Jerks are hard for me too as well man. I think drive up, hips down. Helps a bit. UB pressing strength barely comes into it, it's all about lower body strength, timing and rhythm
tfw no back squat PR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfUve_pVRRc
>>35121780
shame about the lift. nice shirt though sendpai
>>35121780
How come you didn't sink into the hole before you dropped it?
Can you even sit in a paused squat with a barbell on your back?
>>35121830
I don't understand the question
>>35121830
>>35121835
the second one specifically
>>35121835
>>35121843
Can you do a paused back squat deep in a hole like in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sftF83euaAk [Embed]
If you fail a squat you should end up stuck in the bottom position of a squat. The way you bailed your failed squat was risky.
You should be able to sit in the hole with a weight that is higher then your one rep maximum non paused squat. If you fail a squat you should get stuck in the hole then dump it of your back.
If you are unable to do this you will never be able to catch a clean low enough or snatch efficiently.
Even if you are not a weightlifter you should still be squatting as deep as possible.
>>35121946
Yes I can do a paused back/front squat deep:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H1ryEZkHC8
I have done 153 in this manner.
Most weightlifters do not fail their squats at the bottom position, their sticking points are usually somewhere around parallel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAZi2qtLMYE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0_oC99fo2w
I am a weightlifter. Though my technique is unspectacular (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tV4cNJomf4), my technical deficiencies are probably more related to my pulling technique than any problems relating to my bottom position.
>>35122021
>>35121946
somewhere above parallel*
I suppose I can see your point about bailing properly though.
>>35120570
And pat mendes reposted his shit, actually pretending it was funny so
He doesn't look butt hurt
>>35122021
How much do you weigh?
I watched your video. In most of the snatches you did including the competition ones it looked like you could of just power snatched them.
IMO your last snatch in competition looked unstable in the caught overhead position however the pull looked more appropriate to me then the other pulls.
This is just my opinion though and I haven't been in this sport for very long so don't take it too seriously.
>>35122159
Weighed at 80.7 at that competition, current BW 84. Best power snatch is 90.
>>35122168
Do you have a coach?
>>35122213
No, I've briefly had a coach (6 weeks), but for the rest I'm self coached, mainly through recording myself a lot and obsessively watching weightlifting videos (I have viewed many many many hours of footage of elite weightlifters)
>>35120542
what clothes (not shoes) does /owg/ wear when they lift?
i feel everything i wear either limits my mobility, or lets my balls plop out...
i don't want to wear a singlet like an autist...
>>35122298
i wear compression tights
>>35122298
basketball shorts and t-shirt cuz im cool
>>35121586
idk. I thought long arms give you a better deadlift. Mines always been around 100lbs over my squat.... maybe the low bench? but i didn't really find long arms bad for benching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnt_93Uxybg
damn shes such a qt
Someone posted a video of a girl showing how to do cleans. It was taken in a yoga studio or something and she was doing it with bar first, then some weights.
Anyone know the exact video? I found it very helpful.
>>35121552
>best lifts were 440/255/460, tfw long arms
>long arms
>deadlift this close to squat
No, you just sucked at bench.
Need new shoes, Adipower vs Romaleos vs Pendlays?
Also, is Mattie a natty?
>>35123617
cop some antas
Hook grip for snatch?
I find it uncomfortable and strange, unlike using the hook grip for the cleans. Do most people hook grip the snatch?
>>35123659
What makes them so great in comparison?
>>35122021
>their sticking points are usually somewhere around parallel
thats because from a physics standpoint the 90degree bent is the hardest part, of any lift. This is because the force is the furtest away from the body and thus the lever gets longer and the lift gets harder
squatting from atg the lift gets harder with every degree up until 90, and gets easier with every degree increased from there
>>35120542
i did some light snatched today along with my heavy power snatches ( did 4 singles up to 65 kg)
need a form check:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0h9md5Wj_Q&feature=youtu.be
one thing i noticed is the lack of knee extension , how do i fix this?
>>35120542
I love how I got banned for posting feet as a joke, and the reason they gave was because the images themselves were off the topic of the board.
Yet they dont ban high test threads when they show girls
Or they dont ban photos or reaction images that are off topic
Its weird. whatever
>>35125018
>knee extension
Hip extension
Practice pulling from the blocks and exaggerating the pulls
>>35125136
like trying to extend as much as i can?
i probably took this bad habit because i used to bump the bar away with my hips and jump forward.
>>35125200
Yeah
Are you familiar with the positions?
Have the bar at power or a little below on the blocks
Snatch it from there, make sure its heavy
This should force you to extend.
>>35125123
Because ur a fucking retard spammer
Those pictures you posted came out of fucking nowhere with no relevance to anything whatsoever
>>35125245
pretty much, i have a coach but he always follow this kid and half ass the other athletes coaching, so i've been doing my training by myself for the last 2 month.
going to try next week, lets see
>>35125298
Because I didn't have anytime to post anything after about them
I posted 4, and got banned in 5 minutes.
>>35125245
>make sure it's heavy
Lmao u sure u no what u talmbout
>>35125318
Why did you even post them here
>>35125318
you posted them in a general, not even a new thread or something
>>35125325
Yeah, I mean not any heavier than your typical power snatch
>>35125336
>>35125348
I was going to post how your feet look after using Antas
>>35123692
Ya. You'll get used to it
>>35120870
220 lb OHP would be pretty big boy imo
>>35125472
>220 ohp
>hard to achieve
quit now
>>35125883
a 220 ohp is hard to achieve if you're not a 6'5' giant or some shit
i mean a strict press starting from the clavicles
>>35125939
>klokov presses 162kg at 5'11
>>35125973
>implying klokov is the average joe at your gym
a 100kg ohp is pretty damn impressive for the average lifter.
dude, srwg press 85kg and jerk 150kg, why the fuck would i go after a strong strict press if i dont need it
>>35126010
because you are not an elite lifter so why wouldnt you try to achieve a strong ohp
What is /owg/'s opinion on foam rolling?
I did it for the first time last night and it was extremely painful for
Should I be aiming for a specific rolling routine or just mess around and sit on any trigger points I find for a bit?
And lastly I couldn't find any trigger points on my upper back, is this normal?
Sorry for the blog post
how do I keep my elbows and chest up when frontsquatting? can't seem to do it on heavy squats
>>35126060
yes
I dont do it
>>35126080
Front rack stretches, google it
>>35125883
there were 220 lbs of plates, so the max weight is 265 lbs. 265 lb clean and press is extremely impressive, probably analogous to a 200kg c&j.
>>35126046
because my sport is weightlifting and i'd rather do something that has more carryover to my sport, like a pushpress for example.
obv my ohp is going to increase as long as my pushpress and jerk does, it's just not a priority
>>35125400
>>35125325
>>35125299
>>35125018
should i do block snatches/pulls in addition to my program?
i'm following a 12 week cycle and i'm at the end to the 7th week, the program is risers waves and position from catalyst athletics :
http://www.catalystathletics.com/olympic-weightlifting-training-program/56/Risers-Waves-Positions/
and i want to complete it.
any suggestions?
>Accessories Edition
Oh you mean front squat and squat?
>>35122298
Sweat pants and t shirt
>>35125123
That sucks man sorry to hear
>>35125973
He's such an anomaly among weightlifters in terms of pressing though
Watch the strict press session from his power weekend. Tons of guys in the 100-110kg range that can jerk 200+
>>35127024
link me it
>>35127024
>>35125939
>>35125973
>>35125883
Whats your press compared to your jerk anyways guys?
I got a 50 kg press and a 90 kg jerk
>>35127285
80 press, 130 jerk
>>35127024
yes. the limiting factor in The Press is always getting the bar from shoulders to above the head and this has less carryover to jerks although it is a bit more useful for snatches.
lockout is easier in The Press and that's what is good for olympic lifts. The Push The Press isolates the lockout aspect so it is very good for olympic lifts
btw srwg do you have any more pictures of that girl you were with in houston? i really liked her teeth
>>35127285
75kg press
did an easy paused jerk + jerk with 110 kg 3 days ago, i guess my max jerk is aroud the 120 kg
>>35127421
also the women who have poor upper body strength are stabilizing 200-300lbs overhead lmao
The Press is good though because it looks cool
>>35127421
nah my gf made me delete them
>>35127573
>lbs
>>35126879
YOU ARE NOT BULGARIAN YOU BULGABOO
>>35126879
>you need to squat 7 times a week
>>35127740
No he means that squats are the main/most helpful accessories to weightlifting
>>35127757
>implying he wouldnt recommend anyone to squat 7 times a week
>>35127702
fake srwg
>>35127757
Generally this is true I suppose but let's face it most of here who started after a while of strength training aren't going to be massively limited by our squat, and pulls with correct positions might be more important? Maybe? Idk t.b.h fem
I feel like this is the most appropriate place to ask this since high bar squat
I started squatting a month ago, and my mobility sucks, I can go a bit below paralel but then i just roll up in a messy taco shape and that might be hurting my back.
I want to be able to do a full ATG squat, what streches should I do ? should I foam roll ? Can i use paltes under my heels while I'm working on my flexibility ?
T..Thanks fit
>>35127800
I'm not even a oly lifter, just lurking here because it's cool. But I once read that if you have a bigger squat you will have more margin of error for the other components of the lifts
Opinions? And once again
>I'm not even a oly lifter
Welcome to OWG.
>>35127929
dont post anymore
>>35127987
Why?
>>35128002
If you dont know shit dont say shit
Thats what i hate about this board, everyone has an opinion on stuff they know nothing about
>>35126080
knee's out and push your elbows apart.
>>35128083
not him but
a guy at the gym was telling me elbows up and in for front squats
>>35128055
What? I added to a discussion and asked for your opinion on it. kek. I forgot that adding to discussions in a constructive manner was frowned upon on 4chan.
>>35128097
>a guy at the gym
a credible source :^)
>>35128188
jeez breh, Im just wondering why you say out, he said in to keep your upper back tight
>>35128055
why do you get triggered so easily, if you dont like the board leave instead of shitposting
>>35127913
ples ?
>>35128343
he's a mad guy
>>35128199
>he said in to keep your upper back tight
this is why you never take any advice from random guy seriously unless you seen his form or you know he's stronger than most
try it, keep your elbows in and up and see what happens to your upperback? dont they start rounding, now try elbows up and out, you can keep a better chest position doing this
here he talks about it around 1:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1glInnOs7s
>>35128199
yes thats the point of keeping the elbow and chest up. maybe its a personal thing but i always found it easier to keep a tight back if i keep my elbows apart. find what works for you
>>35127722
I identify as hysen kin
>>35127740
Not need but should
>>35127762
ye
>>35128638
>>35126170
>obv my ohp is going to increase as long as my pushpress and jerk does
Big misconception here. The most difficult part of the press is the first few inches of the movement, which is the exact portion the jerk and push press do not train.
If you don't train the press you won't get stronger at it. You don't really need a huge press to be a decent weightlifter, but it is a great accessory for strengthening and developing the shoulder girdle.
>>35128737
>but it is a great accessory
>which is the exact portion the jerk and push press do not train.
>>35127929
If your efficiency is shit then having a big (back) squat is basically worthless (lookin' at you durkz, boyo). The notion of "reserve strength" doesn't really come into play in the actual practice of weightlifting, and you'd probably better spend your time focusing on pulling fairly heavy and with good positions then squatting e'ryday and exhausting yourself. This doesn't mean you shouldn't squat at all, just that it should not be the focus of your training. It is an accessory exercise, and should be treated as such.
My view on the function of squats is that they are great for maintaining a certain level of leg strength, as well as developing and reinforcing confidence under heavy weights. I find that when I don't squat for awhile, I get spooked by heavier clean sets, and end up missing weights I know I can hit.
>>35128819
>doesnt help your total
>great accessory
>>35128749
It's a great accessory for strengthening and developing the shoulder girdle. I did not say it would add any kilos to your total--though it might. Having a larger, stronger shoulder girdle is always helpful in weightlifting, as it helps stability overhead, and gives you a better rack from which to receive and push the bar.
But do whatever you want, I couldn't care less.
>>35128970
>developing the shoulder girdle
Jerks are better
>tfw finally hit 82.5kg snatch and 100cj @ 82 bw
kinda happy but my form is whacky
can you give me some tips?
https://youtu.be/N1u6Sv28lMo
>>35128999
Damn that form is shit lmao
>>35128994
>>35129015
during normal training nor pr's i do much better
i lack the stabillity in upper body i guess
>>35129015
also fuck you
>>35129064
No, On snatch your extension normally looks better on heavier attempts because you need to utilize every muscle you can. Your extension was pure shit. Ive never seen someone so unathletic.
>>35129088
well thats why im asking for advice its not i lifted for a long time i can see that my extension is shit and propably have to work on it
hoped you guys would give me some tips what drills should i do not fucking tell me that you never seen someone so unatletic or whtever
>>35129149
stop being a pussy.
how long have you lifted? people make this mistake when they start all the time.
>>35128999
Biggest issue I see is that you instantly lose upper back tightness when you start pulling.
>>35129166
i lifted about 3 months in the beginning of year then stopped and now im back to lifting since september so i guess about 6 months tho the first 3 was whack
>>35129197
>6 months
>cant even snatch properly
get a new coach
>>35129184
yeah thats like my biggest problem kinda dont know how to get rid of that
>>35129206
only 3 months with coach and he wasnt there a lot
>>35128999
on snatch your lumbar rounds immediately when you start the pull and you lose tightness in the back
you start the second pull a little early then fail to extend properly as anon said
your flexibility could be a little better
your bottom position is unstable
on the clean you let the bar drift away from you when you start pulling and you seem to lose back tightness again
you extend too early
you catch high and ride way down
very loose in the ascent
something looks off in the jerk stance, probably that you're not driving head through and need to hyperextend the back as a result, but it's not too bad
overall it wasn't as terrible as anon was saying, you just have some issues to work on. Notably, full extension. More hang/block work imo, along with mobility
>>35128890
>great accessory for
>for
Did you just stop reading there?
>>35129210
Ignore this guy >>35129206
You really don't have form that shitty.
I would suggest just more pulls and lifts at a weight where you can keep that tightness, along with front squats. Assistance like pull ups and rows are also good for developing the musculature. Abs/obliques/low back will all also help, just by supporting everything.
>>35129240
thanks m8 gonna do more of those and post some videos doing 80%
you cheered me up a bit
>>35129273
don't forget your bodybuilding/squat work and eating right, those are important too especially if you want to build enough mass for your frame. Rows+dips+squats all pretty important
I feel bummed out I can't snatch bodyweight yet :^(
Think I should stop reading owg and listen to really people in the gym they make me feel more optimistic
>>35129296
whats yiour height and weight are you a girl?
>>35129287
i kinda forgot about bodybuilding, tho im doing a lot of core work
ofc presses squats pulls are my normal training regime
guess i have to add some muscles to my body
>>35127285
85 press 150 jerk
>>35127421
Not posting anything here sorry m8
But I do have a worlds story for you guys tho
When she, her mom, and friend were hanging out drinking with the polish men's team their team doctor offered to write scripts for the girls for "whatever they needed." Also, kystof loves cocaine and was wondering where to get some.
>>35127763
This guy knows what's up
>>35129296
Can't snatch bw?
Congrats you just met the requirements to start using a tripcode and get special attention
>>35126112
Thank
>>35129316
6'1 78kg
Not a gril
Very inflexible and uncoordinated lanklet
>>35129409
whats your snatch
?
>>35129409
put on a trip
>>35129418
Done 75 from floor and hang, had 80kg over my head also from both but I missed both forward
I struggle to get under quickly especially when the weight is 'new'
>>35129435
wow m8 75 from hand is v nice
maby try to do overhead squat with 80 it will give you some confidence
>>35129460
I know you're kinds mocking me but I think ur advice is probably tru
>>35129409
your a small guy
>>35129506
For u
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FQELO-ZeOQ
BBC
>>35129349
Who's kystof
Zwarcyz?
>>35129460
nah i prolly couldnt do high hang snatch with 75 the fag with 82,5 pr
>>35130368
was ment for
>>35129483
>>35130256
a slow motion view of those beautiful armpits
great stuff my friend. just brilliant
>>35130256
CJ is so ready
>>35130419
lol'd
>>35130439
i can only see his eyes
>>35130441
?
what is funny?
Sometimes whenever I do anything that extends my elbow I feel a pain in my tricep. What type of specialist should I see to get this shit checked out?
I've had it for at least one year.
Guys i posted here last month saying i was ganna join an oly lifting gym. Im 6 2, skinny fat, and 19 years old
I got a lot more flexible and and shit over the last month. It also took me the whole fucking month just to learn how to do squats, with only the bar, but i still need to fix my form up a bit. Around 3 times a week the coach will be there and helps me with form and everything
Is it supposed to take this long to learn or am i just trash? Feels bad man, haven't made much progress
>>35130545
sports doctor or sports physio. Might be damage to the nerves, in which case the former is a better bet.
>>35130555
It took me a really fucking long time to be able to squat properly. Much longer then you.
Don't worry about how fast you progress just worry about progress period.
buncha qt3.14s to be honest family
>>35130262
This guy but I got the name wrong
It's Krzysztof Szramiak
>>35130555
>>35130628
I still can't squat properly.
Spend as much time with the coach as possible, eventually you can time it so that you do your classics when he's there and do strength/bb work other days
What do i do about inevitable knee pain oly?
>>35130639
who are these semen demons?
>>35131016
ellen kercher and erin amos. both bae desu senpaitachi
>>35131000
is no problem
>>35131206
you already got a bunch of advice yesterday m80
>>35131133
You sure? Ive been squatting for well over a year now but just recently ive upped my squatting frequency for oly lifting. Im deathly afraid of developing some injuries or irritations that will keep me from squatting.
>>35131222
Already feeling some soreness, mostly in my quad tendons over my kneecap
>>35131219
i know mate but im coming here now since i wanna start into oly weightlifting
>>35131206
>Is this good if i just turned 18 and am reppin this
>Age matters
lol
>>35131222
>>35131241
I was kind of memeing. Foam rolling and stretching are essential. They'll alleviate it at least a little. Definitely needs to become a habit.
Also I find that not squatting heavy or cutting depth really tightens me up
>>35131325
terribly memed
come on, guy
post the latest mattie webms
>>35120542
I've never seen any of taos or lus clean and jerks from the championship
does anyone have some webms of them
>>35132137
i posted a few in previous threads. NOTHING BUT BOMBS
>>35132181
yeah but id still like them if you're willing to post them
>>35130693
>still can't squat properly
Aren't you that serious lifting trip anon? What do you mean
>>35132216
just fucking look them up on youtube, christ
>>35132434
I'm not serious at all, I'm an academic more than anything. I just use my body as a test subject for my ideas which is probably why I'm always fucked
mostly it revolves around the fact that I've had knee problems since before I started lifting (got into lifting because of them actually) and can only really squat low bar well or intuitively. I should really be squatting with a more knees-out style but I feel weak and it's never clicked that way strength wise, so I don't really 'know' how to squat high bar terribly well
>>35132482
>I'm an academic more than anything
>I just use my body as a test subject for my ideas
>>35132482
And ive been taking tips from you?
...
>>35132505
you say that but the end result is usually that I have some sort of ligament fucked up for months. I wanted to see the effect of wide grip benching with internal rotation and blew out my rotator cuff so bad I couldn't lift for 3 months or do any pressing for 9
>>35132525
rooks rike uve been rused :^)
it's only worth taking advice from me in as much as you can trust anyone with a 95/125 @77 total. I usually try to back up or research what I say before I post though
>>35132543
I guess you have experience from injuring yourself repeatedly. So what do you have to say about Patellar tendinitis or tendinitis in the quad tendon connecting to the knee?
>>35132526
>I wanted to see the effect
>>35132543
>I usually try to back up or research what I say
>>35132543
>>35132559
Because from what i understand, oly lifters squat almost every day and wear wraps or sleeves to alleviate and/or prevent pain. But wouldnt that just make things worse? Shouldnt they rest? how does all this work? I dont know when to stop because in all honesty its not so painful i cant work through it. but on the other hand i dont want to make it worse. It doesnt hurt at all actually during the squatting itself if i wear my wraps.
>>35132567
sweatpants tucked into socks is honestly so fucking dope
>>35132559
quadriceps tendon, not much. Only got it doing athletics once, and from my experience it doesn't happen very often compared to patellar tendonitis in other athletes/trainees
For PT, I've generally found that along with immediate rest (obv):
-fish oil
-stretching (particularly rectus femoris, VMO, and ITB)
-topical voltaren
are the best. Stretching in particular is pretty crucial because you'll fuck up the tendon when you think it's healed just because it's getting pulled out of alignment along the patellofemoral groove along with the kneecap.
Limiting heavy eccentric loading is a good idea for the future if you do have tender knees, but light eccentric loading is a pretty standard rehab procedure. Pic related is a perfect example of how you can use it to stretch out and realign the tendon fibres by carefully mediating the stress on the ligaments.
For most people, just stretch, take it easy when it hits you, and try fish oil. If it's chronic then you should look into physical therapy like pic related.
>>35132575
health ends where competition begins m8
you're not a pro so don't wreck yourself for the 10 years of olympic dominance you'll never hit in exchange for fucked up joints. Abadjiev's lifters always had knee pain and they dealt with it because it was knee pain or you screw up your training cycle with too much rest
>>35132607
Thanks a lot man, the pain is mostly over my knee cap and it goes away with just a few days of rest, stretching and foamrolling. So im guessing i havent fucked up too bad. Im just curious how far i can go until i should stop, because as i said i CAN work through it, its not that painful. But i dont want to fuck up for good.
>>35132630
Or well, actually. There is some pain in my patellar tendon below the kneecap as well.
>>35132526
I don't understand why you would ever think that would be a good idea to try, how much about physiology do you even know?
>>35132755
hes an actual madman
>>35132630
well tendinitis heals fairly quickly
tendinosis is more of a chronic condition
you probably could adapt your form a little to prevent it
>>35132755
plg, Isley in particular, was INSISTENT it was a good idea with more benefit than harm. I was going light, maybe 60%, so I thought I'd have a minor issue if any
>>35132788
how much do you back squat now?
>>35132788
Thats actual insanity, you're lucky your shoulder girdle can bare any load even after rehab
Side note I have lower back tightness and am wondering what the best stretches would be to alleviate that
>>35132882
Not him obviously, but hamstrings and ass is what works for me. Foamroll and golfball that shit
>>35132834
160 high bar ATG. Closer to 180kg low bar but I haven't tested in like a year (hit 178), completely gave up after shoulder injury because I couldn't handle it.
>>35132882
rehab was fucking useless desu, they had no idea what to do because they weren't sports physios. Waste of money (probably spent over $140 in copays over 3 months)
as anon said, hit the glutes hard with massaging. Lacrosse ball is your friend
>>35130368
If I'm fresh and not tired I often feel better from the hang
>>35131632
>has Olympics insignia
>one of the shittiest lifters at her weight class
>>35133565
Didn't she go to the Olympics in London?
>>35132975
for how much posting/advice giving you do, you're fucking weak
>>35133653
every trip in /owg/ is like that
>>35133734
as far as i can see the trips on owg generally do give pretty good advice and the stuff they post are relevent to the discussion.
>>35133734
Not really there's that dude who snatched 140kg that's not exactly weak is it
Relative to time/bodyweight ob isnt weak, nor is commissar or srwg. Or kuya for that matter.
Noone here will ever win an Olympic gold but it doesn't mean there aren't some decent amateurs here who can contribute to a healthy discussion
>>35130926
Pls no bully best trip
There's a whole thread for caladan appreciation thataway >>35133653
>tfw mates didn't want to go see band play tonight
>tfw alone in middle of town posting on 4cluck
>tfw she isn't texting me
At least the band rocks
>>35133806
have fun bud
>tfw a sore on top of your foot means stretching your quads is borderline impossible
>>35133873
Did you drop a plate on it or summthin, bby? Death stretch?
Yo that alison nyc bitch came to my gym a few months ago I didn't realize until it was her I thought it was just some slut
>>35135077
>implying she isnt a slut
elbows bent or straight during second pull
>>35126060
>extremely painful for
you.
>>35127285
60kg press 60kg jerk
pls don't bully, I'm just starting out
other than watching my waifu, usa open worth watching?
>>35135383
Arms and wrists relaxed, shoulders internally rotated, elbows pointed out.
Had a chat to a national coach who was at world's the other day... We chatted about the China bomb squad.
>>35133653
yeah tell me about it. Given my knee problems I'll be happy if I hit 180 for a lifetime best
>>35136395
which waifu?
>>35128879
I dont really squat errr day. My coach put us on a leg program for 6 weeks as a team and i gained 10kg of bw so i jumped from 195 to 220 in that time frame... I'm sure my other lifts will catch up and I do just as much lower back work... I still made 7kg on my snatch and 10kg on my clean and jerk in that period and hopefully i hit some prs tomorrow. down to 93.6kg!
>>35135190
One of my buddies saw her thong peek out
>>35137234
your classic to squat ratio is so fucked.
Dont you guys ever go over technique?
>>35137332
i find people who say this are usually really weak.
>>35137346
>can backsquat 220kg
>cant even clean 150kg
Why?
>>35137365
i can clean 150kg
also Every single olympic level lifter has a fucked up squat to classic ratio. especially the best ones. Lu, Ilya, every super, Tian Tao, fucking etc...
>>35137388
Can you clean 151kg though?
Have you done it?
I mean, their form is impeccable though.
On your videos, your form is still pretty bad
>>35137417
I can clean whatever I want to clean. Just yesterday I cleaned 180kg of weight. The coach was fucking splendid with how shiny those fuckin plates were.
>>35120542
>I will never be this good at anything
>>35137437
jokes on you, 151 is uncleanable because they dont have .5kg plates in america
>>35127285
81 press
110x2 push press
145 jerk
>>35137438
keep thinking that way and you sure wont you mouthbreathing retart
>>35137479
>retart
right...
>>35137485
omo....
How to increase press?
I'm not really progressing on my overhead press. I've been at the same weight for months now (45kg). I've progressed on virtualy all my other lifts but OHP remains weak.
>>35137499
>omo
can you not smell?
>>35137457
ummm ya they do and i live in canada
I used to have regular running shoes in which I used in the gym for all the lifts and i had zero to very little butt wink. Now I bought myself a pair of WL shoes and my buttwink has noticeably increased. I haven't tried squatting yet in those new shoes but wearing them in front of the mirror vs wering my running sneakers gives me a noticeable buttwink and lower back rounding. Why is that happening and is it just temporary?
>>35137437
post it? curious
How do I create the flexibility in my shoulders need to properly perform the clean and jerk without fucking up my wrists and collarbones?
>>35137626
pic related helps for back, and wrist mobility is fairly easy to acquire as long as you're patient
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfDInX7lQmY
as for the collarbones, just get a good rack position and they won't hurt much. Bigger delts make it comfier
>>35132575
>Shouldnt they rest?
125 is cake but 130 is hard. Tech was pretty bad yesterday. arm bend really needs to be fixed, caught on toes quite a bit, knee too far on jerk
>>35138582
it was pretty decent, but your garage looks tiny
>>35138680
My platform is elevated a bit now maybe that contributes
>>35138582
Also hurt left hamstring a bit. Not sure how but i'm pretty sure it didn't happen lifting
>>35137234
I was just joshing you, mang. You catch a lot of unwarranted flack on here, but a trip makes you an easy target. Keep liftan.
Sup /owg/ new to all of this and just started trying snatches (Specifically power snatches) this week and made it up to 135 lbs pretty easy but can i get some tips or crits on my form?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOIn-5yHgGU&feature=youtu.be
>>35139839
Bar path is way loopy, keep bar close, don't rush the first pull, pull up, move your knees out of the way instead of moving the bar around them
>>35139839
how much do you squat
>>35140276
425 lbs max back squat
375 lbs max front squat
>>35139839
dont bang bar into hips, use hips to push bar up and then pull with arms to about nipple height then drop under and extend arms to catch it
>>35140314
im trying to power snatch tho not full snatch
>>35140336
it's the same exact movement except you dont drop to full squat/pull higher
>>35137615
Are you squatting a lot lower than you would in your running shoes? Perhaps your mobility is lacking at this new depth and you end up rounding? I could be on to something here
>>35131133
>Commisar
how much you weight?
>>35141146
he's a small guy
>>35141146
83kg
its like the same questions are asked and answered everytime in every thread at least 30 times every 5 minutes
>>35141152
seriously fuck off faggot
