/OWG/ - A thread for the discussion of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults and shitposting to a minimum.
>Snatch Edition
>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
http://pastebin.com/1HgVcGam
http://pastebin.com/wCXeXfkk
http://www.chinfl.blogspotco.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq
http://www.iwf.net/doc/technical.pdf
http://yashathoughts.com/
>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.
Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists
Red Lights
>>35079672
>>35092509
I did the base cycle, so 5 weeks but i skipped a lot of rest days so closer to 3-4 actually
Maybe just redo smolov with my new 1rm and actually have rest days?
>>35092636
>that webm
The suspense is killing me
Caught you mirin penis print edition
>>35092763
I fucking love ilya's Instagram
>>35092685
shit. didnt know it cut off
Thoughts on gymnastics owg?
>>35092763
Those are big guys.
>>35092763
Hi welcome to OWG.
>>35092850
<<<< king and queen of /owg/ imf (in my fact)
mattie is duchess :^)
>>35092984
>>35093004
>>35093023
>>35093029
>>35093023
>>35093004
WOW PICTURES OF ILYA ILYIN
HOW WONDERFUL
what's up with these avatarfags
>>35093041
ilya is a nice looking man
>>35092984
Once upon a time I thought to myself, "I may never compete with the guys winning medals, but maybe I can at least outlift every woman."
I was sorely mistaken
>>35093041
>Ilyaposting
>avatarfagging
>>>/out/
>>35093064
if you are not the short man in small weight class it is very possible to outlift tatiana with dedication and drug. but they are both key and you may require to be big superheavyweight to be stronger :)
it is still amazement. many in the 105C at championships could be close her records! tatiana herself is only little above 105kg or 108kg so she is very strong.
>>35093081
i knew this can happen. they will complain about not just the nice girl mattie. they will too complain about world champion and record grabber ilya! demons
>>35093406
I wonder if his coach cares about the asymmetry
probably not
>>35093593
what asymmetry do you refer to
>>35093645
he rotates right in nearly every snatch he does
>just noticed hookgrip now selling 7mm knee sleeves for $35 a pair plus shipping
Are these new or am I slow? Looking some sleeves and can't afford the likes of SBD
>>35093656
when he's coming up with the weight overhead or when he's extending? i don't see it honestly
>>35094227
they just came out. theres a coupon code that you can use to get them for 25 or something so hurry up and grab em
I dont normally power snatch
>>35094257
Gotem
Hope I didn't fall for a shill, I've read of cheaper sleeves falling apart at the seams
i want to change to high bar squats but im an athlete who depends on his speed. will these squats fuck my knees up?
>>35094730
is clarence natty?
>>35094266
lol same xD
>>35094775
its harry potter
>>35094788
has he said this?
>>35095012
obviously not lol how naive are you
>>35094778
I hate power snatch desuwa
>>35095095
i simply will not approve of slander.
>>35095306
>gain 7kg in 2 months, 0% of which appears to be fat
>put like 20kgs on your already near elite level total in like a month
you'd have to be retarded or a massive fanboy to argue against it now
>>35092763
ilya has the biggest flaccid penis
I bet it correlates to the amount of test he has
>>35094237
When he's coming up
I notice it every single snatch as well.
>>35095327
>put like 20kgs on your already near elite level total in like a month
is there evidence this is impossible without drugs?
>>35095371
Pretty sure clarance admitted to using gear i nthe past.
>>35095371
yes, see: every professional weightlifter ever
why don't any of them continue to make linear progress once they have big totals? because they've taken all the shit they can take
clarence used to be natty. after his surgery he clearly isn't anymore, as evidenced by the massive strides he took in putting up higher numbers on his classics
>Olympic Weightlifting? You mean Weightlifting?
>>35095417
pretty much
>>35095329
Maybe he's a shower
> mfw thinking about all those growers hurting because of ilyas massive shower
thoughts about my power swing?
>>35095380
well that's what i asked about in the first place >>35095012
so link to it or you're a lying prick
>>35095403
>yes, see: every professional weightlifter ever
that is not evidence. if all of them use drugs and have used them for decades, how can you determine the limits of natural progression?
>>35095479
the limits of natural progression don't matter in this scenario, because clarence is not natural
>>35094778
pas how longwere u training until u consirderd urself "good"
what was ur progress like?
>>35095502
>dat grammar
......
>>35095508
I'm tired, sorry.
>>35094227
>can't afford the likes of SBD
>>35094730
>Hope I didn't fall for a shill
ayy lmao senpai
http://www.amazon.com/White-Striped-Elastic-Sleeve-Support/dp/B007ML5ZU0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1448940356&sr=8-1&keywords=como+knee+sleeves
those are the same exact sleeves for more 1/5th what hookgrip is selling them for with their brand stamped on it
if you get a smaller sized than your quads are the stitching on top is gonna get ripped
>>35095515
wew lad
>>35095515
>it takes effort to write coherently
low i.q subhuman
>>35095488
yes they do, since it was said "put like 20kgs on your already near elite level total in like a month" as evidence that clarence is not natural
i already know people say he is not natural. repeating it is not helpful
either post a link to him admitting he is not natty or prove that putting "20kgs on your already near elite level total in like a month" is not possible naturally
comm. if you're still here, this is the video i was referring to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7PRO4H6GCQ
>>35095403
>he clearly isn't anymore
>implying he was natty before that
look at his old videos where he squats his old 1rm for a 10rm just a few months later
>>35094747
yes theyll fuck your shit up dont do it
>>35095545
the evidence is right there in front of you. if you just take his dick out of your mouth for a second it'll become pretty clear
>>35095502
hit 80/100 after 6 months
travelling and no lifting/eating for 3 months
6 months or so after getting back i got to 95/120
regression, injury, stagnation,more injuries and regression for around 2 years since then
Little question:
When doing backsquats, is it ok if I feel my lower back? I use my quads but I feel my back a bit too, sometimes it hurts just a little. My back it's straight.
Is it mobility? Am I using hip drive? Or I'm being a form maniac?
>>35095576
you have not offered evidence or pointed to any
you failed to prove your claim
>>35095519
>http://www.amazon.com/White-Striped-Elastic-Sleeve-Support/dp/B007ML5ZU0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1448940356&sr=8-1&keywords=como+knee+sleeves
No, they just now came out with 7mm neoprene sleeves, same thickness as SBD and Rehband
>>35095613
i don't need to lol
keep sucking dat deek my friend
>>35095639
k good for you
I'm just gonna hate on Caladan for a moment here and hope you can all agree with me. This shit cunt says he's gonna squat 5 days a week because he has shit squats and clearly needs to improve on them both Form and strength wise and then one cunt goes "Oi cunt Chinese cunts only squat twice a week" and he changes his whole thought process and is like fuck yeah I'm only gonna squat twice a week how good is this. I'm not saying he should squat 5 days or two im just saying that if I'm getting an ice cream and I badly think I need a cornetto and some cunt goes nah mate paddle pop, would I go yeah mate you're fucking right? I rest my case
>>35095588
thx bb
>>35095654
thx brah. how's that cum taste?
>>35095665
he said he thinks the way to improve his lifts is through squatting that's why he wanna try squatting more, one guy mentioned dont do it with his fucked knees
me and other people told him squatting isn't the only way to improve lifts in fact squatting less frequently would be better
it's not like he read one thing and instantly changed his mind
get off your high horse
>>35095550
>Tfw squatted my old max for 6 today. It's only been 3 months.
>>35095804
100 kg for 6? fuarkin epic bro
>>35095804
if youre a beginner that's to be expected desu family guy
>>35095478
the dimensions of your video literally make me want to puke.
>>35095610
Bump anyone?
>>35095610
hard to answer without any sort of video of you squatting senpai.
who /motivation/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eJ_WNu4AfY
>>35095861
>>35095884
140, but yeah family still beginner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCSL0va0THI
>>35095665
here's how it went down m80
-I (correctly) come to the conclusion that I'm failing my lifts because of inadequate leg strength
-Deduce that I need to improve my squat, and hope that my shit knees can handle it, so talk about running an RSR cycle
-Multiple people point out that you don't have to squat all the time to improve leg strength and can instead do heavy pulls, which would suit my pathology better
-Do independent research, find backing evidence
-Change my protocols with relief because squatting rapes me anyway
If you'd like to point out where I fucked up then by all means
>>35097010
your a small guy
>>35095665
Thank you so much for your post
>>35097028
epic xD
>>35097223
dr hothead
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>>35095588
How much do you weigh
>>35095665
trip on pas
>>35097306
How tall are you?
>>35097330
why you asking all deez q's
>>35097364
I wanna suck his cock
I squatted 140 with pretty bad form at 110kg. Am I gonna make it?
6'4" master race so already made it, just messing with you fools. But seriously fuck squats.
>>35097881
Tbh lad that squat at that weight is not impressive at all, leads me to think you're 6'4 of skinny fat smoothness so nah ya didn't make it yet familyman
>>35095478
4:3 stretched
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/women-weightlifters-challenge-stereotypes/
>>35098074
Nothing there about weightlifting friendo
Would something like SS for frontsquats work so 5x3 three times a week? Just for a while since I started them.
>>35098710
>will lifting weights work
yes anon
>>35093292
what the fuck is your native language
>>35098074
>competitive weightlifting
>raw powerlifting
>bodybuilding
>crossfit
>interchangeable
Do journalists do ANY research these days?
>>35098736
Ok then, would it be effective? Is it too much?
>>35095613
By your logic kali muscle is natty because he claims it.
Im a powerbuilder and want to incorporate some power cleans and power snatches for fun and training some explosiveness.
What is the tutorial how to learn them? I tried some power snatches and they seriously need work along with the cleans.
>>35098841
>powerbuilder
Do you construct things explosively?
>>35098964
quiet boy! you're in the presence of emeritus professor of powerlifting, doug hepburn
>>35098841
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsEvA5cCrrU this is probably your size since all my normie friends keep on going on about him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KODanFCbaJw
power cleans and snatches arent particularly difficult to learn though, you could probably get a good enough written tutorial just by googling it
>>35095478
as seen from the perspective of a smashed grape
>>35099037
I googled for power snatches but didnt find anything particular good so i came here.
Dont really like omar isuf but i gonna watch them anyway
>>35099197
he's a prick that hardly knows anything but it gives you the basics
>>35099226
good enough for me.
cheers
i have my first meet on the 12th of December and i have to weigh 58kg for that meet.
right now i'm around 59-60 kg and there's two weeks left: this week i would like to keep training hard and next week slow down to have enough power for the meet.
how do i lose those 1-2 kilos while still being able this week to train at full capacity and without draining my body too much before the meet?
i easily lose 1kg of water weight in a couple of days by cutting carbs and drinking a lot, but i am afraid that it will hinder my performance if i'm low on carbs and dehydrated..
the weigh in will be on the day of the meet at 8am to 8:30am, and the meet is around 9am.
>>35099497
how tall are you?
>>35099497
is that morning or evening weight?
1-2 isn't too much you could easily lose that over night, especially if you limit eating and drinking the day before (within reason).
or just do a water cut.
whatever you do it shouldnt affect your performance significantly, just make sure you rehydrate and refuel immediately after weigh in.
http://www.catalystathletics.com/article/78/Cutting-Bodyweight-Losing-Bodyweight-for-Weightlifting-and-/
http://breakingmuscle.com/olympic-weightlifting/size-does-matter-managing-weight-cutting-in-weightlifting
>>35099532
1,65m (i'm female)
>>35099563
morning weight. this morning i was at 59,8kg.
thanks for the links!
>>35095964
>>35097981
>>35099131
i had to use a converter that fucked up the aspect ratio. lets try again
>>35099926
well at least the aspect ratio is correct, dunno how to rotate it
>>35099926
ffmpeg -i in.webm -vf "transpose=1" out.webm
>>35099957
srsly lad
>>35099972
and u dont fully extend knees desu senpai
>>35099685
are you gonna film your comp?
the only thing I'd recommend on top of the ater cut is the sodium water things that everret recommends after doing a overhydration cut on the day of the comp
>>35097881
>110kg
no
>>35097881
how do y ou feel when you squat as much as our 60kg twink despite weighing twice as much
>>35098748
american
>>35092636
How many % should your paused squat be off your 1rm BS?
I just did a 170kg paused high bar for fun, and wonder what my normal high bar should be at.
>>35100939
i reckon 90% ish but this is something i wonder too desu
>>35100939
>should
Impossible to say, depends on how much you rely on the stretch reflex/bounce when squatting
>>35101125
But if your paused squat is close to your regular squat, doesn't that imply an inefficient technique?
>>35101254
Maybe. Not everyone can use the bounce that much
>>35094778
>tfw I don't snatch because I'm shit at it and go to a commercial gym
>>35101854
>tfw got the snatch down but I keep cleaning like in a snatch
I hate cleans
>>35101885
i like c+j and hate snatch
>>35101902
>tfw 3 weeks in and my coach didnt even teach me the jerk
>>35101925
>tfw 6 months in and my coach didnt even teach me the clean or jerk
i aint even mad
>>35101925
>>35102073
Cleaning the weigth is hard since I always pull like a deadlift and my legs are super weak. Jerks are super easy desu, back tight, internal rotation etc. I can't even OHS the bar though, so that's a horrible mobility and strength issue.
>>35101254
Not necessarily, you may just not have that great a stretch reflex if that's the case
Could tight hips be causing me to subconsciously be catching all my snatches as a power?
>>35103724
yes, i have this exact problem
>>35103724
If it's your hips, it's probably not due to your "subconscious"
>>35103724
>tight hips
yes but what part
>>35103798
I just meant that I can tell myself to get under, I don't feel scared etc, just sometimes I can't catch below paralell for the life of me
Sometimes I can get under lovely though, which made me wonder if hips could play a role cos today they've felt very tight
>>35103833
record yourself and see how far down you catch, in my snatches it feels like im catching atg but in reality its just below parrallel
>tfw you will never be a central Asian or eastern European weightlifter
>>35103806
The muscle part
>>35103947
>tfw southeastern european
feels good to be not slav yet have the strength genes
Interesting article here
http://deansomerset.com/planks-are-the-magic-bullet-for-hip-mobility/
>>35104130
whats best core work, should u do core work everyday after liftan?
>>35104272
depends, I do static on heavy days and hip flexion like leg raises on light days
ab wheel and planks for former
leg raises for latter
>>35094778
powersnatching is actually something im good at!
>>35104724
woah sameee
>>35104732
>>35104724
I'm the guy from above, me too but not intentionally
I've power snatched 5kg under my Max and desu my Max was not caught deep
If I could actually.get under a snatch I wouldn't be utter shit
>>35104780
i think my psn(intentional) is around 70 my best "full" is like 77
i find hangs rly good for getting into a good bottom pos/hitting the bottom well.
>>35104839
Yeah I did my Max full from snatch first and been close to a over bodyweight snatch from hang (I've not been lifting long obvs) which leads me to believe if I can get under from hang but struggle from floor my pull is off?
I think it's largely a flexibility issue my start positions is not great
>>35104780
>>35104839
my best power is 105 but i almost hit 110 too... my best snatch is 117 I think I have 120 soon
>>35104839
>>35105051
I used to be afraid of pulling myself underneath a snatch and then I dropped the bar on my neck
Oddly enough I'm not scared anymore because now I know what it feels like to fail it like that so I can dump it out of the way
High snatches are amazing
>>35105161
>BBC shirt
fucking cunt i knew it
I never want to lift at a commercial gym again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnxOOzhTt04
>>35106405
pls get more colourful t shirts
camera person sounded a bit dim btw
>>35106424
I like wearing grey and black
Just started oly lifting what should my diet be like? Below or above matniece?
>>35106405
how much do you dadlift?
>>35106496
Last spring I deadlifted 175 but never tried more
>>35106507
why
>>35106518
I dont really deadlift lad
>>35106522
why
what do you do
>>35106539
I do squats, front squats, snatch, clean and jerk, and recently have implemented power snatch/power clean and jerk.
>>35106560
why dont you do any pulls or presses
>>35106591
Once a week or more depending on how tech is looking I do pulls. Time spent fatiguing myself doing pulls and presses is time wasted I could be doing one of the four exercises I said before.
>>35106611
but you lift less than mattie
why would dedicated strength work waste more time than failing 100kg snatches repeatedly
>>35092636
Best ankle mobility exercises to improve form?
>>35106737
I do squats
>>35106737
dont bother, we've tried lots and he just neber lerns
>>35106748
how much do you squat? both variations
>>35106841
170 and 140 paused
Can i stop squatting guys?
>>35107326
can u stop shitposting guy?
daily reminder lu xiaojun could have got 177 easy at the 2012 olympics but the jury keked him
>visit powerlifter friends
>they're doing squats
>all of a sudden notice 3-4 of them squatting with feet together
>don't think much of it
>later they're doing narrow stance sumo deadlifts
>ask what's going on
>"bro we found this awesome channel @mastrength and now we're incorporating their exercises into our training
smhtbqh
>>35107621
some ma stregnth stuff is good, like his basic concepts he talks about like balance n speed n shit.
but that stuff is kinda ehhhhh
>>35107644
well yeah but those are abstractions, if you want anything tangible out of that channel it's basically got to be the exercises
>>35103833
no-contact snatch helped me catch low with more confidence
>>35100614
Pretty good knowing that nobody will ever look at that 60kg twink when I'm in the vicinity. It also feels good pulling 240 and benching 130. I'll get that mobility right son, then you manlets will learn
>>35107885
What r u stats?
>>35107966
80kg squat
100kg deadlift
70kg bench
>>35107966
80kg squat
100kg deadlift
60kg bench
>>35107966
80kg squat
100kg deadlift
50kg bench
>>35107966
144BS
115FS (been a couple months since tested)
77SN (80 hang)
102CJ
at ~65bw
>>35108052
>>35108072
>>35108084
I was amused.
>>35108052
>>35108072
>>35108084
>>35108095
lol >tfw these fags are trying to take the piss out of you and the numbers turn out to be pretty close
>>35108095
you been stuck in a rut?
>>35108110
>60kg off BS
>dont know DL
>dont know bench
sure i guess they were close?
>>35108134
i guess, what u mean tho?
>>35108163
you've been on 77/102 for ages I thought, seem to remember you having those stats like 5 months ago
>>35108185
I mean, not that I'm one to talk, I've been stuck on 95/125 for a long time too
>>35108185
my sn has been eh, cj has been moving up dece i guess, but yeah progress kinda hit a wall after coach got popped so i havent had a coach/ eating is eh rn.
idk desu senpai
>>35108203
your coach got shot? Where the fuck are you, America?
>>35108209
as in drug use
>>35108219
Dont tell me it was creatine...
:(
>>35108405
wasnt able to tell me what it was was, know our team is horrible for creatine use tho :////
>>35108416
>>35108416
Was your coach the the Ontario 69kg suspended in June? He was popped for dianabol.
>>35108474
well there ya go
>>35108503
what are his stats
>>35108517
~115/145 ish iirc @69
>>35108185
>been on 77/102 for ages
>>35108185
>been stuck on 95/125
>>35108534
>coached by a guy who only hits 115/145 even while on drugs
and then there's commisar with something like 97/130. more proof you should never come to /owg/ for advice unless you're retarded
>>35093058
Amen. I kind of look like a taller, whiter Ilya.
>>35108733
show us your elite lifts
>>35103883
Nice lift mate
>>35108733
>ages
like 1 month desu
also why u gota h8 m8, what are your superb stats?
nikeweightlifting account was cool in the beginning, but now is just constant stream of unfunny shit
>>35108824
>>35108832
broomstick with play-doh on the end/bedroom ceiling is slightly too tall to C&J so nothing
now i'm ready to trip. anyone need some advanced weightlifting tips? i'm your man.
>>35108878
well I bet he's lurking /owg/ sometimes so
I agree though, been shit tier memes and unfunny stuff for a while now
>>35108896
you really have it in for this guy
>>35106105
it looked like they were /spoiler pushing one mega barbell until the end
>>35108733
Yeah I can't believe nobody here's going to compete in rio. Absolutely pathetic /owg/
>>35108992
they were
also does anyone know what Oleg Chen's shoulder injury was? Did he even have one? That said though his grip isn't hugely narrower than Daniyar's
>>35092636
>tfw you have bitch ass elbows
thoughts on Chinese planks?
>>35109343
broke one first time i stepped on one
0/10 would not buy again from chinese motherfuckers
>>35109343
yes
Do you gents do reverse hypers?
u guys watch the new torokhtiy vids about his program?
holy shit the attention to detail on everything programmed is insane, like when to use straps and when not to, it's interesting
>>35096508
for what thout purpose.
>>35109615
when there's a pendulum, and even then only maybe once a month really because cbf
good exercise though
>>35100939
185kg with a pause was really hard for me and my max is 220
is there any reason not to do my bodybuilding routine in oly shoes?
seems silly to bring multiple pairs of shoes to workout
>>35109957
it does seem silly, so just do your bb work in your wl shoes unless you're not doing any weightlifting stuff that day
most weightlifting routines have multiple bodybuilding exercises in them anyway, and bench/OHP actually feel better in heeled shoes IMO
>>35110002
>unless you're not doing any weightlifting stuff that day
>not doing any weightlifting stuff
so silly, caladan
>>35110014
sorry, I thought I was in another thread where some dude is complaining about wearing his power perfects to do more than just squats
>>35109657
Oleksiy pls
Thank you for resource, watching nao, am currently doing meme torokhtiy program, loving it, have added twenty kilogrammes to total in twelve weeks somehow
"There's no such thing as overtraining, only under recovery" - a lot of people
Do you guys think this is true? I couldn't disagree more
>>35110737
Then you're probably a pussy. Yes it's true.
>>35094148
sheeit that chick almost dun goofed
>>35110737
over training and under recovering are pretty much the same thing, i really can't see a difference its just a saying
>>35110745
Sometimes there's not enough hours in the day to recover properly mate
>>35110745
What happens you have completely exhausted everything there is to recovery huh?
>>35092636
guys ill be taking 2 weeks off during Christmas and i wont have access to the gym. should i just stretch during those 2 weeks
Nederfags hier?
ZIjn er enige Olly lifting gyms in Amsterdam noord?
>>35111248
idk what youre saying but it wasnt difficult to find a weightlifting gym on google: http://sportquest.nl/ you can also just go to any crossfit gym
>>35111248
weet niet maar zoek tom bruijnen op, de enige WL georiënteerde gym
Yo OWG,
Is your push press higher than your jerk, or should it be? Same question concerning BTN snatch grip push press and snatch?
Also my jerk is horrible, good vids?
>>35110737
true, overtraining is v easy to do
undertraining is far more safe and will give better results
overtraining will lead to stalls, regression and injury, and could even make you have to stop weightlifting
>>35100624
liar
>>35107781
This is owg mate noone cares if you're big. You're 110kg and you can't squat more than a 65kg twink you'd be getting looked at with pity in most gyms t.b.h lad
>>35111365
Push press should not be higher than jerk
As a beginner, is it all about eating a ton and volume?
>>35113127
yes
>>35111365
Push press should be more like 75-80% of jerk
everyone in my gym wears the red/black adipowers. i love the way they look, but will probably switch to romaleos just to be different.
does this make me a fag???
>>35113379
Yup
>>35113309
Funny, my push press is like 50-45% of my jerk.
I don't think you guys are doing it right.
jerk is more about getting under than it is about finishing a press.
I jerk 140kg and can only press 72kg
