/OWG/ - A thread for the discussion of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults and shitposting to a minimum.
>lord and saviour edition
>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
http://pastebin.com/1HgVcGam (embed)
http://pastebin.com/wCXeXfkk (embed)
http://www.chinfl.blogspotco.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq
http://www.iwf.net/doc/technical.pdf
http://yashathoughts.com/
>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.
Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists
Red Lights
>>35068548
squat form check please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV-ZBlZO8OI
>>35079672
Ehab is so fucking excellent
>>35079622
Post them then.
>>35079682
Mobility
>>35079682
>absolutely_disgusting.tiff
>>35079731
Just as I thought. This fag couldn't post girls in local comps "hotter than Mattie Rodgers" within a few minutes, because they don't exist. Lying cocksucker.
Mattie remains the absolute best.
not really following wl but tune in for webm's here
is mattie rogers posted all the time due to being really good at wl or mostly because she's pretty?
what do you guys think of morghan king
48kg female wler
>>35080021
shes good, holds US records iirc.
shes also above average for attractiveness
all the autists sperg out about her
>>35080021
Mattie's set several records on the national level.
>>35080021
She's pretty
She has an american record(for reference, no american has cracked top 6th in a weightlifting event, ever) which isnt impressive
>>35080107
Wut.
>>35080185http://www.budgetbytes.com/
I meant world event, obviously
>>35079921
You'll never ever meet mattie you creep
>>35080021
>mostly because she's pretty
Obviously.
If it wasn't just looks, they'd be talking about jenny arthur just as much
>>35080203
Wut. 1984 olympics saw the US getting 2 medals for the men, 2000 saw a Gold and a Bronze for the women. And thats ignoring worlds. It's been a while, but we've certainly won medals.
>>35080203
>>35080234
Those are the most recent Olympic medals - we've have many before those in the olympics along with many world and Pan Am medals.
I need some Sasha Nievas back squatting webms
>>35080211
Why am I a creep? C/:^:)>
>>35080253
go rub one out on /gif/ and stop ruining the thread
>>35080330
maybe he wants to learn from her excellent form, shtlord
>>35080349
Yeah cuz back squatting is so hard and Sasha is an expert ;^)
>>35080349
don't even bother arguing
every time a female weightlifter is brought up or posted in a pic/webm a shitload of misogynists come out to tell you not to post them
>>35080394
>that creepy yu jie smile
>>35080388
>misogynists
hahahahahaha. it's like i'm actaually on tumblr! 4chan is dead
>>35080388
>misogynists
Do you know what that means or are just using your newfound buzzword
>>35080388
Either dumb female or reddit kek
still need that sasha nievas webm
>>35080536
fuck off faggot
>>35079740
what things in particular?
>>35079748
t-thanks
>>35080425
>>35080468
i'm a fully grown man and i don't go to tumblr or reddit
you guys are exactly the weird neurotic misogynists i'm talking about
>>35080314
she needs to restart her computer to finish installing updates
>>35080583
The guy obviously wants us to post a bunch of #HIGHTEST BRAH girls for whatever fucking reason. How is it misogyny to say we dont want to see that?
>>35080388
>>35080583
welcome to reddit
hey guys its me
>>35079682
Those plates are fucking huge
>>35080611
because it impedes no one to post a female weightlifter and several people DO want to see them as evidenced by the requests for them. much like it impedes no one to post a nice looking russian lifter like viktor getts (check out his instagram btw)
the misogynists don't just see the posting of an attractive female lifter as a major offense, they come out to yell cunt/slut/whore at the women posted. this has happened several times before in previous threads and it will happen again because they are neurotic about women
>>35080639
try proving me wrong instead of mumbling reddit
>>35080583
kill yourself you fucking white knight faggot
you too >>35080703
>>35080703
>the misogynists don't just see the posting of an attractive female lifter as a major offense, they come out to yell cunt/slut/whore at the women posted. this has happened several times before in previous threads and it will happen again because they are neurotic about women
nice projection m9
>>35080425
>>35080458
>>35080468
>>35080639
>>35080703
>>35080721
If you want to see it so bad, post the webm yourself.
I don't want to see it, so I'm not going to post it.
Btw, if anyone wants to fap, /gif/
If you want to see a squat video, here.
>>35080743
no, sasha had much thicker thighs
>>35080757
Yet she squats less with worse form.
>>35080743
atenery is such a qt
>>35080787
ok now we're getting somewhere
>>35080723
>>35080727
this is exactly how guys who are weird about women react. you can't even argue. you go straight to the attacks
>>35080743
i never asked to see it that was this guy >>35080253
i'm just defending him from the ridiculous attacks. it's okay if you don't want to see it, just don't come out yelling "NOOOOOO DON'T POST THESE WHORES STOP IT YOU'RE RUINING EVERYTHING"
>>35080806
>>35080810
thanks, im the guy asking for it
it just really pumps me up before a squat session and i wanna see it :>
>>35080810
shut the fuck up beta bitch, we get it.
>>35080830
>>35080821
lol faggot
go on youtube if you want to look at it
>>35080680
thanks for your input. anything about the squats?
>>35080857
yeah, they're shit
How about you show us what your classics look like
>>35080821
good for you. i don't see how any grown man could complain about it, unless he was a neurotic misogynist, or some fedora trying to present himself as "mature" by complaining about attractive girls posted on 4chan. ridiculous
>>35080830
explain how i'm beta
because i'm not immediately yelling STOP IT when i see a girl weightlifter posted?
okay
>>35080881
Honestly, I dont care anymore breh.
Last reply from me you're getting.
>>35080870
sn:
https://www.instagram.com/p/8g0Gqerrk5/
clean (no jerk, don't have any recent recordings):
https://www.instagram.com/p/55iHIZLrmN/
what can I fix about the squats? Mobility, I know already
>>35080810
>this is exactly how guys who are weird about women react. you can't even argue. you go straight to the attacks
>st-stop making fun of me
Learn to handle banter better.
>>35080894
terrible extension on the clean. Weird, your snatch looked good. Extension should practically be the same for both.
>>35080892
if you don't care that much then keep quiet from the start
>>35080900
>kill yourself you fucking white knight faggot
>banter
okay
>>35080913
I cleaned up my form a bit over the last couple months, that clean is a few months old now. The extensions are more comparable now that I've realized you have to keep pulling.
>>35080583
>i'm a fully grown man
Right
>>35080968
you caught me. i'm a girl
>>35080999
>Can only take absolutes out of that implication
I believe it
>>35080965
>>35080913
here, I uploaded a failed clean from last month:
https://www.instagram.com/p/-r86rwLrv3/
>>35081013
Gonna need a better angle, because that clean looks the same
>>35081009
okay i'll write a different response for each possible interpretation of that implication. just give me a few
>>35080881
>when i see a girl weightlifter posted?
you seem to be new, people react to mostly sasha/mattie posting in the same vain as people from /a/ or /v/ hates waifufags, because that's what they are
they add absolutely nothing to the discussion and just spam their shit waifu desu family
>>35080314
Keep doin good work
>>>35080830
>explain how i'm beta
no explanation required, you had to ask.
>>35081221
the first snatch was a pressout
he was lucky, he probably would have bombed if he didnt get awarded the first snatch
what a qt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBYDdYn787I
>>35081240
no it wasn't
>>35081150
>they add absolutely nothing to the discussion
what "discussion". the "discussion" where mediocrities with 90kg snatches parrot poorly understood weightlifting dogma under the guise of giving advice? if you want a biomechanical analysis of the jerk, this place is not it. this place is for shitposting, webms, and epic memeing. you must accept that
>>35081246
Shes kinda basic, jumping on the WL band waggon to get views it appears.
>>35081266
lol btfo
>>35081263
I like her a little more now.
>>35081263
show us your ultimate 100kg snatch master phase pls
>>35081292
it would be stupid to argue with someone who doesnt compete desu
>>35081263
what's wrong with a 90kg snatch :(
>>35081263
you can just leave if you dont like it here, you dont have to be all assmad all over the thread
>>35081406
nah, you're just an idiot that can't see the snatch was perfectly legal. stay mad
>>35080314
>>35080589
She also needs to keep her hips square lol. What is stretching effectively?
>>35081423
>perfectly legal
lol you didnt watch the whole comp where people with the slightest wobble got reds, and he didnt
next you'll tell me jon north's jerks are perfectly legal
>>35081366
i will show you mattie's snatch PR @ 102kg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15B8RAJgMA
great technique :)
>>35081408
nothing at all. just don't give out advice if you don't have the skills, experience, or theory to back it up
>>35081422
no i love it here. i love the memes and matties. otoh imho tbqh family, reddit's /r/weightlifting explicitly states
>/r/weightlifting is not:
>A place to post memes, blogspam, or things that provide no value
>A place to post sexual content of any sort, including comments on the attractiveness or lack thereof of any lifter.
so everyone who hates mattie has a nice place go to :^)
>>35081548
you're not mattie tho
>>35081660
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>>35081660
i like mattie tho
god I can't wait until these people fucking leave. Go back to r9k or whever the fuck you came from
Shitting up /owg/
>>35081791
we're never leaving
back to reddit normalfag
>>35081822
Go back to planet fitness weak fag
>>35081855
nope :D i'm here forever. stay salty faggot
>>35081791
>>35081822
>>35081855
>>35081873
you guys should introduce yorselves and your positions. i can't tell what side you're on so i don't know what you're arguing against xD
>>35081791
hey you got any sasha nievas webms?
>>35082029
how did klokov do in this competition
uh oh,typical beta being passive aggressive and shit posting for 6 hours
>>35082042
He did not compete. He was the one recording with the camera.
can i get a 145kg snatch at 97kg natty?
>>35082258
Yes, easily.
>>35082293
have you done it yourself?
>>35082302
Kyle Harrington is natty and isn't even that great and he does 150.
I think 180 might be tops. It wouldn't surprise me if Flemming norik and that other 94 were natty and they can do 170
>>35082302
No, but I know one person who has and several more approaching that number, below that bodyweight weight. I've only been lifting about a year and a half.
>>35082326
>norik
lmao norik did 180/220 back in armenia probably more but those were in the video
>>35079682
Lol you got rekt in the c&j fail dawg
>>35082382
I know, it was pretty funny. My shoulder collapsed and I was internally rotating so hard that I pulled myself under instead of bail, got caught in two minds whether to go in front or back and instead breakdanced to the side
>>35080571
Hips, ankles
>>35082512
got any good hip stretches? my left hip flexor hurts like a bitch all the time, especially when I squat
>>35082348
And he probably wasn't natty
>>35082744
r u retired? are you born with lack of oxygen
>>35079682
SHAKE
THAT
THING
MISS
ANNABELLA
>>35079682
200 dollar shoes 10 cent lift
>>35082787
hey bud
fuck you
>>35082707
Google yoga for weightlifting, it's on YouTube and reddit
>>35079672
/plg/ friend here
Any tips on how to practice getting a good front rack?
>>35079682
You have incorporated low bar mechanics into your squat. I.e. forward lean and hip drahve. Nothing really wrong with that latter but you should be more upright. Or otherwise just stick to low bar squatting entirely.
Front squat more so you can work your anterior chain (quadriceps, core).
I would work on ankle mobility (the one where you place a loaded barbell on your knees and lean back - check out CalStrength) and for hip stretches just search some up.
You should focus on an upright back. I know that sounds as it would fell awkward but it's want you want. You may even have to drop the weight.
But the back squat is an assistance exercise that helps build general leg strength but overall strength especially in the back and core.
Aim for an upright back, and either go for a below parallel high bar squat (like Ilya Ilyin) or an ATG one where you practice catching that bounce (look at Clarence Kennedy's videos)
>>35080388
So many annoying people out here. Who lust so hard after women.
Control your lust. As the other Anon said some come here to discuss weightlifting and don't want to be tempted by scantly dressed woman.
Most of the female weightlifters have little self-respects. This is evident in the way they dressed.
I know this doesn't mean a lot. But as one guy said go elsewhere for that kind of stuff. Here we want to discuss it.
I don't hate woman. I hate sexual immorality. Woman are beautiful but women like Mattie Rodgers obviously put great emphasis on showing their body when they workout. It's really hard to appreciate her technique when she reveals so much.
>>35082942
just post the sasha nievas gifs idiot
>>35081240
>>35081250
I have to agree with that Anon. It didn't look like a press out. What makes you think it did though? I intend to compete in the future.
>>35082907
Stretch your upper body you mong. Cue big chest, elbows up and out
Most likely culprits are lats, traps+rhomboid, delts so roll the shit out if them and stretch every day
Wrists maybe, last thread(?) I posted a webm for norselad of wrist mobility exercise
Until you can achieve front rack you can tie two bands or straps to bar, hold these with fingers
>>35082963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYFPCwKR1ww
watch 56:50 then 27:45
his left elbow was soft and the right was a bit too, why did the kazakh get called for a pressout when his lift passed?
watch the bulgarian get 1 red light at around 21:05 for the same thing
At the risk of bringing up a subject that I hate, I really dislike the waifuposting.
Literally every time Mattie gets posted there's some sort of serial killer tier comment about sniffing her armpits immediately after she's posted. Makes me think that the mattieposter is posting her for his own weird fetish.
Anyway it fucking ruins the threads, as evidenced by this one. And it's creepy as fuck lads. I don't even think the pissed off anons are sexist, everyone is just sick of all the shit in these threads lately.
Nothing wrong with posting webms, but you almost can't post anything else when /owg/ is full of all Mattie's content. I just wish we could maybe take a step back from the current levels of waifulust.
>>35083116
While I don't disagree with you, you must be pretty new to 4chan and the internet in general if you think sniffing her armpits is serial-killer-level weird.
How much of your C&J should you be able to snatch?
>>35083380
70%
80 if tech is good
>>35082921
thanks m8, this really helps. I think some days I have decent hip mobility and it tends to feel nicer.
Here's a pause squat from last week, if it's any good then hopefully I can learn to try to emulate it for my regular squats without losing form with the added weight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyCntrIIYks
How long should i stay in cold water/hot shower or sauna? Also hot shower then cold water dunk or the other way around?
>>35082942
>I hate sexual immorality.
what is this trend of 20 year olds on 4chan pretending they are conservative family men? you're on a site where people jerk off to video game characters lmao
>>35082951
i can post the only two webms i have seen around here. i don't know where any of her stuff comes from
>>35084129
>>35084129
>>35084141
Filthy casual
>>35084141
this is it, i can finally leave you /owg/ guys alone
goodbye
>>35083484
bump, was this any good
>>35083484
Keep your toes pointed more outward and elbows facing in. A strong cue that was taught at a David Laversky seminar was to keep your eyes pointed at your pinky toes. Try to stay under the bar more and figuratively keep it on your back. Other than that just shoot the hole quicker/longer and you seem to be on the right track.
>>35083380
>>35083432
i snatch 90 and clean and jerk 102, is my jerk just shit?
>>35084449
Do you mean looking down isn't bad?
If possible, could you elaborate on the stay under the bar more thing - unless you're talking about staying more upright, in which case I get it.
Are you the guy with the 140kg snatch (bulklyfe)
>>35079672
i'm having a really hard time getting my back leg to bend in the split jerk
are there any drills i can do to work on it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI0L7E_5Qac
who wanna bet we'll see more people do jump squats because of this
>>35084784
people been doing that tho
>>35084811
that's why i said we'll see MORE
>>35084784
Hey there lads. Friendly neighbourhood powerlifter, just scrollin by and I wanted to ask
WHAT ARE THOOOOOOSE?!
Cause those shoes are cool as fuck.
I think I fucked up a glute stretching boys
I can't stretch or roll it without there being pain, am I fucked
>>35084493
no, he is not that guy. His cues don't even make sense, why would you look at your toes. You look straight ahead.
>>35084849
>Friendly neighbourhood powerlifter
your a big guy
>>35084902
except he's like the weakest trip there lmao
>>35084849
Anta weightlifting shoes. you wont be able to cop the gold pairs bc theyre limited but you can cop the red ones for around 185 on hookgrip store
>>35084902
Nope
>>35084921
Yup.
>>35084921
that must be extremely painful
>>35084928
Merci, friend.
gonna run an RSP this winter, what do you guys think of
(if 6x2 day): light classics, squat, light hamstring work, core
(if heavier day): squat, upper body hypertrophy, shoulder girdle work, mobility
>>35084937
....for you
>>35084937
U U U U
>>35085021
I'm just very apprehensive about you and squatting
Pls stay safe
>>35085096
the main limiting factor to my classics going up is squatting, I don't know what else to do
>>35085105
The Press
heavy pulls
be klokov
>>35085123
to what extent can heavy pulls mitigate minimal squatting? 3x/week, volume/heavy clean and snatch pulls?
>>35085136
for me i only squat 2x a week maybe 3 if i feel like it, more pulls but not heavy only heavy like 2x a week
i also tried completely not squatting just doing the classics and pulls that didn't work too well since the bar felt heavier when i actually rack it on cleans, jerks were dead since i'd be shaking like it was a max fsquat even if it's a 90% something clean
drop the squatting to as less as you can, then do more technique
even now that i'm squatting 2x a week i still dont go heavy on them for example my real grind out max is 245, but when my coach does the programming i'd either put 210 or most of the times 200 as max so i'd be squatting like 75-85% of my real max most days even though the program calls for 90%
i'm also a 105 so i guess that factors in to why i dont like frequent squatting, i just feel dead if I do a lot of squatting
>>35085238
i forgot to mention that I used to focus solely on getting my squats up to get my lifts up when i used to train alone, that didnt go so well, like i said my max is 245 but i only managed to clean like 150 when i had garbage technique and only doing the lifts 2x a week because i focus only on getting the squat up
now i can powerclean that but my squat is pretty much the same or maybe it went up a few kg since i havent maxed it out, but i never focused on it anymore
oh and do all kinds of jumps if your knees can handle them
>>35084863
You're probably out of the game forever, mate.
>>35085238
>>35085280
this is really helpful m8, thanks. It's actually kind of a relief knowing that I don't have to put my knees through hell 3x/week. I'll try limiting to 1x squat and 1x front squat for now (volume squats, intensity front squats).
I'll try jumps but only carefully because those are tough on patellar tendon. More box jumps than depth jumps I think.
thanks again m80, looking forward to pulling tomorrow
>>35084863
Careers over.
>>35085484
>>35085492
It's time to start my fledgling career as an armchair analyst
Silver lining is that its deload week
I had gone so far without injuries or pains and I attributed it to stretching more but now I don't know what to believe
>>35084261
Sorry for the late reply mate. I am the guy you responded to. Yes it looked better.
But always record from a middle height and 45 degrees to the left or right from the back.
>>35080968
Damn Zoe Quinn lost a lot of weight.
>>35085238
>>35085280
Incidentally, I was just re-reading Larry's Chinese Weightlifting Experience on ATG and from what he says, they only really squat twice a week (one front, one back) and spend the rest of the time doing heavy pulls.
So, new direction in training, fuark yeah. Love it when that happens.
Im in the process of completing my home gym and the final stages would be purchasing oly plates so I have a few questions for you guys.
Has anyone here ever bought eleiko plates? If so what did you pay?
I'm not interested in used plates either. What other brands would you guys recommend?
>>35086157
I used only 1 set of 20kgs and i purchased cheaper but smaller iron plates for 1-10kg.
Now i have 2 sets of 20kg bumpers One from rogue and one from pendlay. No difference really.
They cost a lot. I think i paid 75$ per plate or something.
>>35086157
Eleiko, Werksan, Uesaka, Rogue, DHS, York bunch of others
>>35084784
Just a dynamic warm up tho I was expecting proper jump squats
>>35086157
Eleiko plates will set you back 1000s for a full set
You're priority should be a good bar though
whoa /owg/ got bad
>>35086586
Was it ever really that good?
>>35086749
idk lad but the mattie posting seems a bit out of hand desu
>>35086757
we should just go back to seal posting. that was so much cooler
>tfw this years worlds was even worse than last years
>>35087359
>hurr hurr I was on the road, look at me guys, I traveled and missed a major holiday for my sport, im that good!
>>35087457
Why does the tweet make you so angry?
>>35087457
Every time there seems to be this one guy that's massively butthurt at all lifters, except Chinese and Russian cus 'so humble and foreign'. Or maybe this general really I'd overrun by Asians and Slavs.
>>35085703
Good advice. Confidence when moving maximal weights is a part that's lacking in a lot of newbies.
>>35086757
Agree m8
>>35087752
I'm not mad at Mattie just this incessant posting of her boring shit
>>35083484
pls stop puffing your chest out. it ruins your bar path and put stress on lower back. have an open/living chest
pls dont look down on squat or look at you pinky toes, look forward and keep your chin up.
break the hips first and when coming up the hips rises first
>>35083144
Honestly what I like about owg specifically is that it's informative and actually talks about lifting, unlike the rest of the shitposting that we see on 4chan. Mattie posting is basically just the rest of the faggotry on 4chan seeping into one of the few informative threads we have on fit. It's not misogynistic to say you don't like waifu posts in a thread dedicated to olympic weightlifting. Mattie is a good lifter, no doubt, but posting her random instagram posts contributes nothing to the discussion of olympic weightlifting.
i think somebody said seal posting
>>35088452
Stop throwing a fit about it for fucks sake. The only reason why webms of Mattie get like 20 replies is because of YOU and guys like you needing to voice your opinion about the 'golden age of owg'. Waifuposting always existed, it's only when guys like you appeared that it became a problem
Just got me a pair of compression bandages to replace my knee-sleeves, and i swear i was scammed buying the knee-sleeves.
Sleeves are much more expensive, fixed size so you cant adapt it to your body over time, cant apply pressure to certain parts of the knee depending on where you need it, cant change the pressure overall... It keeps my knees warm the same...
So whats up with this knee-sleeve meme? Why do people buy that shit instead of Russian wraps or something similar?
Pic related
>>35088507
I wasn't aware that calmly pointing out why I don't like the incessant Mattie posts is considered throwing a fit. If anybody sounds mad, it's you and the Mattie posters.
>>35088551
Honestly it's probably because knee sleeves are much easier to use than wraps, that's really it.
>>35088556
Maybe read the rest of my post before you hit that reply button. You're a bigger part of the problem than the people enjoying Mattie posts. Its only because of you incessantly replying back to the Mattie posters that it even causes a discussion. They're only a few people enjoying some webms, don't let it escalate more than that.
>>35088507
>Waifuposting always existed
not like this, we'd get maybe one or two waifuposts and those are to bump dead thread, not like this autism guy who has to post everything mattie does because he wants to "update" us about mattie
lol
I bet Mattie doesn't teach poor Chinese children who are in need of wl training
>>35088720
Goddamn, never knew he was this much of a manlet.
Respect lost tbch fåm
He's a 77kg lifter, the middleweight classes are generally fairly average-sized men. Not sure I would call 5'8 manlet-tier.
>>35088720
What are these wooden bars for? The ones that are so many in the back, first time I've ever seen them.
Anyone ever used a TENS unit? My rectus femoris is clenched to fuck and I want to open it up to being looser than a crossfitter's wallet.
how do I drop down faster after the second pull
>>35088974
I was just today thinking of getting one to use on my left glute. Curious to know peoples experiences as well.
>>35089035
Don't think of it as a drop
Don't conceptualize the second/third pulls as separate movements
Pulling the bar up and pulling yourself under should be one single fluid movement
>>35088974
>being looser than a crossfitter's wallet.
lol
wish I didnt have to go there.
>>35088551
I have both the knee wraps and the sleeves
Sleeves are so easy and convienient I never use the wraps anynore. Altho I have one of the wraps to a buddy cos they're so long I cut them in half and made 2 pairs
Best way for a noob to increase front squat?
I was thinking of doing only frontsquats 5x5 twice a week.
Just managed 60kg for 5x5 today with two min rest between sets, not sure what my actual 5rm is.
Also, I'm doing front rack holds for as long as I can with 150% of my frontsquat, it feels useful. Is it or just a meme?
70kg bw
>>35088878
What wooden bars
>>35088974
Used one to try to help get my vmo firing and recruiting again. Not sure if it worked desu, massage setting does feel good though
>>35089207
There are so many of them at the back. Are these just racks?
>>35089268
Circle them?
>>35089035
learn to muscle snatch/clean
seriously, this helped my form better than anything else
>>35089041
yeah I'm gonna apply it to piriformis tonight and see
>>35089205
5x3, 6x2, and 3x3 are pretty effective IMO. Don't bother with >3 reps, too much fatigue on upper back and it starts to turn to shit
>>35089219
yeah that's a secondary benefit, but I'm not convinced it's really a thing yet
>>35089268
You mean the stands? Yes basically squat stands. I dunno why you're calling them bars tho
>>35088720
Mattie has teach children of all colors who can be willing to learn. The true American.
Lu steals children from the parent at night and adds them to the country's collection. They are made forced to train for years as part of the communist plot for gold medals.
>>35089573
>lil nuggets
Lol cute. I think she wants to have children someday.
>>35089659
Like every woman does
Glad we are getting more kids into the sport though
>>35089573
Is that bottom position flexibility or genetics?
>>35084610
plox respond
>>35089351
I dont see how the muscle version would help
>>35089672
Do you have a high school education?
>>35089672
yes
>>35089745
Thanks for clearing that up
>>35089751
Your a smart guy.
>>35089775
For big guys.
>>35088720
That gym looks really comfy. Very spacious and I like the big windows.
>>35089692
why?
teaches you to pull under.
>>35089871
link me a vid then because all im seeing is cheat reverse curls
>>35089901
http://yashathoughts.com/muscle-snatches/
out of curiosity, what are your lifts and bodyweight
>>35089918
im 3 weeks in so pretty new
my coach says my technique is pretty good for 3 weeks, the biggest problem I have now is not dropping fast enough during the 3rd pull
not sure what lift to list
>>35089918
Not him but if you're going to ask someone his lifts then it's only fair you post yours as well.
>>35089940
yeah so the issue is that you're thinking of it as dropping rather than pulling under. If you do an exercise that forces you to use pull under rather than flopping under, you'll improve your pull
>>35089942
if he was stronger then his issues might be different than a beginner, my lifts have nothing to do with it. It was a valid question
>>35089573
those kids will also never medal in the olympics, unlike the chinese kids.
>>35090041
Only because Lu steals thousands of children for Chinese Communist government and they kill the low lifters for soap and vitamins.
>>35090041
Why? Because they're American? Not even American, but I believe that every country has a fair chance at the sport if they actually nurture their athletes. America cares about their juniors, so I wouldn't be surprised if they rolled out some junior lifters in the coming decade. And let's not forget about CJ Cummings, who already shows a lot of promise.
>>35089942
>Not him but if you're going to ask someone his lifts then it's only fair you post yours as well.
>insecure newbie reatrded found right here
>>35090104
America ranks what, like 30th in the world in weightlifting? Frankly I don't really see that changing much. American lifters are just really weak compared to the rest of the world. The last American male to medal at worlds was Wes Barnett back in 99, and the last American to medal at the olympics period was Tara Nott in 2000. The only lifter aside from CJ who showed a lot of promise was Pat Mendes, and he managed to completely fuck his life up through poor decisions. Hopefully CJ stays on track and becomes a world class lifter, it would be great for the US.
>>35090041
>100,000 chinese kids come into the sport
>6 of them end up medalling
>>35090172
alex lee did 140, 176 that's world class at 69
>>35090184
too old
>>35090184
The US definitely has a couple of world class lifters. Alex Lee and Sarah Robles come to mind, but none of them are anywhere near medaling. Hopefully that can change in the future, but I doubt it.
>>35090165
>>35090172
Isn't it a combination of lack of funding and stricter drug testing that makes America uncompetitive?
>>35090247
That's definitely part of it, but frankly a lot of it just stems from the fact that American lifters are really weak. Maybe I've been listening to too much John Broz, but American lifters seem far too wrapped up in technical work and tons of variation instead of just getting strong and working on the lifts. It's no coincidence Lu Xiaojun squats 300 and snatches 176. International lifters just seem to be stronger than Americans.
>>35090247
>lack of funding
No.
>stricter drug testing
Yes. Russia faked most of their lab results, Russia isn't even the only country guilty of this. At an Olympic level peds are a must, because no amount of strength will compete against a world class lifter on steroids. American athletes need to off cycle more and lower their dosages.
>>35090183
That statistic is exaggerated as fuck.
>>35090286
Or maybe you just don't know what you're talking about
The genetic freaks like lu, Ilya etc are not good comparison for strength compared to average lifters like most of USA
The guys who competed this year at worlds have close or equal strength to most guys they competed against
There's very few athletes that can squat as much as lu in his bw that's why everyone was watching him every time he squats, even the average 105 don't go that heavy in squats competition week
>>35090288
Do you know how much stipend the top athletes gets from usaw? It's barely enough to eat you can't pay for rent, gas etc with the amount they get
>>35090286
>American lifters seem far too wrapped up in technical work and tons of variation instead of just getting strong and working on the lifts
you see it all the time itt. people with babyweight lifts telling themselves and others they could add 15-20kg to their total with better technique lmao
I'm not saying you need to be able to back squat 4 times your bodyweight to be competitive in olympic lifting, but you should probably be squatting more than 3 times per week, which is what they do at MDUSA and the OTC from what I understand. They also rarely seem to go heavy. Given that the US has a huge gene pool, there's no reason in the world we shouldn't have freakish athletes in olympic weightlifting. The only real explanation is a lack of interest and lack of funding.
>>35090286
have to disagree with this. The reasons for me are
-American weightlifters are people who want to do it, and have to go out of their way to live in this niche that is rarely heard about
-other countries rely on Olympic sports as a way out of poverty that get tons of kids enrolled early, and sift out the rest. The kids who are doing this know it's a shot at greatness and being able to make some money, so they train hard.
In the US, you get the same thing, but these kids all play basketball and football. If urban black kids who only knew of athletics to get out of poverty went into WL, the US would be smashing records with China and the slavs.
IMO, anyway. CJ is the first time we've seen something like this happen, and look at his progress
>>35090347
>>35090347
There's the funding aspect of it... China can throw money at training kids in the hope that they'll have genetic traits like Lu and just trash them if they don't turn out well. You watch Chinese training hall footage and there are so many young lads in there putting up huge numbers.
Culture too, naturally gifted American athletes go into football from high school. Even fucking Mattie whom /owg/ pedestals like nothing started out as a gymnast.
>>35090391
>squat 5 times a week meme
chinese only squat 2 times a week
>>35090395
Well if that's the case, why do we have fantastic athletes in most other sports? The US gets tons of gold medals in pretty much every sport aside from weightlifting and some others. What is the incentive for those athletes? It's the same thing for weightlifters. I don't buy the lack of incentive argument.
