Can someone point me to a completely objective, unbiased study proving nofap actually works?
Been masturbating twice a day all my life, I'm not gonna stop it just for something that MIGHT work
it just werks.
Then don't. You're not sounding like you had the willpower in the first place. If you can't stop wanking for at least 1 week you usually should get there's something wrong.
Bet you're one of those /v/ faggots that goes
> i just bought game X what can i expect
They can't because such a thing does no exist.
>>35052456
>all my life
The thought of a baby having a fap after a hard day just tickles me.
What's your definition of ''actually works'' ?
I can't point you to a study but from personal experience if I go a week without fap I feel like a sharp knife.
>>35052456
Looking at arousing pictures and movies raises testosterone levels. Here's a source:
https://books.google.ch/books?id=jn3nCAAAQBAJ&pg=PA113&lpg=PA113&dq=looking+at+erotic+picture+testosterone&source=bl&ots=KQrDBu-IZa&sig=-b9b_hj-dcJ0_otJgre1PGL9oa4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj2iPbK4rDJAhWEVxQKHaDnBxcQ6AEIJTAB#v=onepage&q=looking%20at%20erotic%20picture%20testosterone&f=false
But, I'm pretty certain that there's no relation between fapping and testosterone. Here's an article quoting different contradictory sources:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/246689-the-effects-of-masturbation-on-testosterone/
The whole nofap meme is probably just broscience.
Yeah, nofap is stupid, no porn is better.
I was getting to the point where i would spend one hour a day looking at porn masturbating. And once i actually got laid i had problems keeping it fully hard. I lost like an inch since i never got 100% erect.
Nofap is for people who are addicted.
>>35052456
Please, just keep fapping. Don't listen to them.
You're fine.
bros, I am just about to cave in.
pls help me
>>35052456
There are none because it's a farce.
>>35052456
i don't really care about you enough to care if you fap or not
>>35053152
>>35053934
>>35053942
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, pathetic little fapper? I'll have you know that I have contributed with the majority of all nofap threads and I have over 300 confirmed days of not fapping. I am disciplined in not touching myself or looking at porn. You are nothing but another disgusting fapper who I am about to destroy with my pseudoscience sources. As we are speaking right now I am contacting my network of fellow nofappers and we are about to break our records of not fapping in order to build up and unleash our semen tsunami on you. If you had only known what a sticky mess your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will ejaculate all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>>35052456
I don't know of any actual science on nofap.
I know that poeple had positive experiences (subjective) with noporn, since porn actually rewires your brain in an unhealthy way.
nofap is a meme for autists that think they will get better social skills.
noporn is for guys that actually get laid but have problems with performance due to porn.
sexlife gets better A LOT without porn, way more desire to fuck the shit out of a girl and you get way more into it, so does the girl.
>>35052456
Fapping twice a day? I do no gap here and there and it just makes me really horny for a week which typically makes me really try to get laid. Porns bad for you bro. Now I just fap like once or twice a week. Fapping is kind of a large waste of time and make me less productive for the rest of the day usually. But do what you want to do
>>35052456
>recognises he cannot stop performing an action
>thus recognises a lack of control
>asks what are the benefits of control
>continues to operate without direction
Keep fapping. It's just a ruse.
almost nobody pushes nofap. there's no good science supporting it, and the consensus in the medical community is that fapping is healthy.
noporn has more potential, but we don't really know since the "science" on it is retarded.
seems to me that people are just looking for something to blame for their problems.
>>35053908
what is the deifinition of porn in this context?
naked woman? men and woman doing it?
because i can say i can fap to OP picture, i can fap while daydreaming, heck i can fap while reading a fanfic. Does those count as porn?
>>35054086
porn, as in keking yourself by watching another man fuck a (by your standards or fetish) beatufull girl.
>>35053990
I got some science. The only piece of it itt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU
>>35054119
>TEDx
>science
lel
anyway, that's noporn, not nofap.
>>35054132
Infact I quoted myself promoting noporn.
>>35054097
What about watching a girl tied up to a machine with a thousand dildos fucking every hole in her body till she bleeds?
>>35052456
Lemme give you my experience. 4 weeks ago I stopped fapping and watching porn. I had been whacking it twice a day every day for about 6 years. Within a week I had gotten a girlfriend, two weeks after that, I fucked her and lost my virginity. I also noticed my arms and chest are looking bigger, I stand up a little straighter, I act more manly, and my voice is deeper. Its been 4 weeks since my last fap or porn and I feel great. I just fuck that sweet pussy whenever I'm horny now.
>>35052456
Perfect heels.
>>35054148
The dildos are cu/cking you
>>35054167
>>35054180
What if a girl gets fisted by a female midget in an alien costume? That's not really cu cking, is it?
>>35052456
The only reason I do/try no fap is the religious aspect.
>>35054197
Of course it is
>2015
>Getting cuc/ked by midget alien fisters
>>35054201
i hope you're joking
>2015
there are still religious people in this world?
i might wanna an hero over the stupidity of whole mankind.
Why do you want to be convinced?
Just try it? You can always just go back to masturbating afterwards, it's not like it makes your dick shrivel up and makes you a feminine fuccboi craving for big cocks all day
:^)
>>35054223
That's cute. *tips*
>>35054269
Well, if I may interject: nofap makes me gay as fuck. I continuously fap now so that the test doesn't buildup.
Am I super high test? I need to fap often to like thick chicks. If I let the test rise I just want to fuck a strong male ass.
>>35054309
You're just a tiny disgusting dyel cunt
>>35054331
>tiny
Kek. I would literally fuck and destroy you until you fell in love. I wouldn't even cucck you, I'd just go right into homosexualising you into my cockslut. You and your wife will crawl on hands and knees over to my dick, both mouths watering, waiting to get a hold of me with your tongues. As much as your wife will want it, you will want it even more, and jump right onto my cock. Watch yourself.
You see this woman? This will be you.
>>35054352
tldr little dyel friend
Do bikini pics count as porn?
>>35054426
I would absolutely destroy Kylie
>>35054352
>Mfw first time I saw this chicks face
Do yourself a favor, NEVER look up the source for that image
>>35054496
She's my biggest trigger during nofap. Jerk it to her daily.
Why is ryry so perfect?
![M0oYbvr[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yCA2hZL.jpg "M0oYbvr[1].jpg")
>>35054500
It's not Danielle Pertusiello?
Meh. I'll just imagine its her.
I love how retards always chime in with "nofap doesn't work, try noporn instead" like they're any less delusional. It's like watching two memes fight each other to the death.
>>35054500
Who is she family?
>>35054599
>>35054973
Michelle Tripson. She's kind of a butterface, but not too bad.
>>35054426
Yes.
>>35053982
>>35053982
>mfw people are fapping
>>35054426
The Kardashians (minus Kendall) should just rent themselves to the American (male) populace.
>>35053990
[Citation needed]
I looked into connections of gains and fapping when I started lifting years ago and found pretty much nothing. Theres one chinese study that says test levels peak 7th day and its now hilariously core of the meme beliefs.
>>35053990
>since porn actually rewires your brain in an unhealthy way.
Can people stop suggesting this like it's some anomaly. Any addiction can essentially rewire your brain. No porn/no fap is for addicts only. If you can't get an erection without porn chances are you are addicted and no porn/no fap can help you recover from that addiction.
For everyone else it's simply just another means to improve discipline by depriving yourself of pleasure.
Masturbation is natural. Being excited by seeing people have sex is natural. Not being able to get hard through sex or any other situation without porn is not.
>>35052456
I've had consistent gains and continue to fap as needed which is roughly a few times a week. I also fuck or get head from my girlfriend a few times a week. Every inch of intuition I have tells me that no fap is broscience. I'm consistently right about what to ignore as broscience and the right things to do in the gym.
Furthermore, I've read studies that having sex increases testosterone levels. Of course science is bastardized in all these studies because they mistake correlation for causation every time I read a new fitness study. For all we know, guys with more testosterone get laid more.
Anyone who perceives a positive effect is likely having a placebo effect. So anytime I see these threads I imagine DYEL's pushing nofap rhetoric.
So just stick with your gut. Nofap is about as legitimate as using isometrics as your sole workout regiment.
If you want to make gains, there's too many guys giving advice to natty's that only work for people on gear. There's also too much false representation on what a natural body can achieve. To make it worse, there's too many natty DYEL's giving advice. So you have to be very selective in the advice you take. You want advice that works for a natty, by a natty that knows how to achieve results.
There's nothing proving nofap works.
No porn on the other hand, is a real thing.
>>35052456
You sound like a massive fag op. Just try it, if it doesn't do anything for you, keep wasting your gains twice a day.
>>35057625
[Citation needed]
>>35052456
You can't even state that the sky is blue anymore without having to show a shitload of research.
It's a know fact that regular to very regular exposure to pleasurable things desensitizes you for some percentage, depending on various factors.
Not looking at porn makes you more sensitive for sexual stimulation (physical or visual).
Sure there are people that don't experience (noticeable?) effects of fapping and porn, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have any (0-100%) effect on pleasure response to sexual exposure.
For people that are addicted to porn (which are a lot of fappers, aware or not), nofap has a very big effect (like stated all over the internet).
Because sex is one of the primary urges, along side fight, flight and freeze, it is hardwired in the base of your brain and can control/influence every overlaying process of the mind.
Because it is so strong it can deplete your pleasure response when you overdo it and also make you dependent on it and make the brain pattern very dominant and hard to quit.
Addiction to this can cause all of the symptoms that other addictions can cause as stated by users. And quitters (including me) report improvements such as higher libido, more energy overall, more social urges/skills, higher pleasure response to everyday things, clearer thinking and focus, better brain performance etc.
Also; a lot of symptoms are perceived to be part of their personality, because they have been doing it since the start of their teens. Since 99% of guys are porn users, I personally think the ADHD/ADD epidemic is caused by this.
>>35058345
> he thinks ADD is a thing
>>35052456
nofap is a meme. there are various studies that show that testosterone levles only very slightly rise after 7 days of nofap and then they fall back. seriously try googling it its not that hard
>>35058950
The ADD/ADHD diagnose epidemic is a thing.
Besides the diagnose, it does not exist and the symptoms are probably a result of other problems.
>>35059168
Namely a generation raised by TVs
>>35058544
People do it because it makes you desperate enough to actually talk to girls. People who do no fap and stay inside all day are literal psychopaths. I don't fap during the weekends because all the pent up sexual tension makes my mind go fucking crazy and hit on every single female in the vicinity.
>>35054086
Honestly I think it just applies to routine. I would masturbate so often to all this fetishistic shit that I was conditioned to porn and my own hand.
It got to the point where I couldn't cum with girls anymore. We'd have to go jump in the shower and I'd beat myself off while she cleaned off.
Shit's a sickness.
>>35054426
Everyone needs to remember that this dumb bitch is white but is doing her best to look like an Armenian whore.
Nofap is bullshit from Christians.
Why don't you guys just try nofap and noporn and see how it affects you? I swear, you insecure faggots wouldn't eat food if there weren’t scientific studies telling you to. Like a normal person, I experimented by doing both. My sex frequency improved dramatically after beginning noporn. So I haven't watched it lately. Very simple guys.
>>35052456
The thing that comes closest is the Kinsey report on nocturnal emissions.
Summing up, the kids that had more nocturnal emmissions in adolescence had a higher degree of social and occupational success later on in life to a staggering degree. (i think it was 70% +or something)
Just search Kinsey report nocturnal emissions and success.
Now this is not correlated with no-fap/masturbation, but Biohistory by Jim Penman here :
https://books.google.com/books?id=w6DzBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA72&dq=kinsey+report+on+masturbation+occupational+success&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiK9ozy1rLJAhUEYyYKHd_LDsIQ6AEIJTAA#v=onepage&q=kinsey%20report%20on%20masturbation%20occupational%20success&f=false
States that those kids who had curbed masturbational tendencies reported higher nocturnal emissions which had increased chances of success in later life (referencing, again, a Kinsey report).
So there you go anon. Read up, stop jerking it and get shit done in life.
>>35052456
Fapped several times per day for several years. Nofapped for two weeks. Had blood tests done at the beginning and about 12 days in. Dopamine levels increased ~400% from baseline.
Felt better, looked healthier, etc.
Unfortunately I became a drug addict and relapsed with fapping. Think I'm going to start nodrug/nofap until Christmas.
>>35054097
Okay, then, if it's the psychological aspect, what about POV porn?
>>35053908
porn addiction leads to cookie cuttting
but serious porn is a drain on the average human and o society as a whole
>>35062975
If it's 3d and you use a fleshlight it's ok.
