>tfw want to cut and be aesthetic but don't want to lose my strength. Sitting around 290, around 25% bf I think. What do /fit/?
>>35005708
What are your lifts? You don't look very strong
>>35005742
390 bench
515 dl
Mid 300's squat???
I'm usually one to lowball people's bodyfat % but you're closer to 30 no offense
>>35005742
Maybe this will make me look a bit stronger idk. 18in arms tho :^)
Common belief is you don't loose strength until below 15% bf. There was a study on trained military personnel who they marched around without food for days and there was no muscle loss until well into single digit bf. So cut you fat fuck. Even as a strength athlete you want to be optimal for your weight class retard.
mate ya lookin fat.
I am glad you're lifts are going well, but people who see you in public will assume you're just a fattie boom battie. You can't tell girls at the bar about your stats. They will only see your tummy.
>>35005768
I don't mind the opinion. I just did some shitty calculator online with random measurements
>>35005747
>that bench with those other numbers
Wat
Anyway, there's no reason for you not to cut. You're carrying a lot of fat and it probably isn't doing all that much for you. And it's not like you're going to win anything as a heavyweight.
>>35005779
d-did you shave everything EXCEPT your neckbeard?
>>35005779
18 inch fatceps don't count. You are definitely higher than 25% bf...by quite a bit too
And fucking hell, you need to cut, bulking and even maintenance is 100% out of the question
>>35005808
My beard is gross so I try to shave often desu p-please no h8
>>35005789
>You can't tell girls at the bar about your stats. They will only see your tummy.
>not going to pick upgirls at bars with your power rack
not going to make it
>>35005802
I wanted to cut down to around 240 and then after smolov for squats hopefully have around a 1500 total. I don't think it's too bad for being 18
>>35005816
shave the whole thing off, your neckbeard isn't hiding your fat ass double chin..people know you are fat
neckbeards are hideous and never look good
>>35005834
I shaved the other day nigger I just need to shave it again It just doesn't grow in as thick on my cheeks
>>35005708
> 25%
more like 38%
>>35005708
Mirin those abs
>>35005825
>I squat slightly above bodyweight
>I'm going to do smolov
Ruh roh
more so in the mid 30%bf.
and youre past the point of being able to do anything less drastic.
you should go on cut, big time, lose the fat and build back up on an ACTUAL diet. not just bullshitting thinking you know what youre doing.
because i dont think you do.
18" arms dont count at 30+% BF.
>>35005863
'Preciate it b0ss
>>35005708
I know a lot of /fit/ is on the wrong end of dysmorphia but holy fuck, no one can be this delusional. Must be trolling. Dear lord, please be trolling.
>>35005883
18in arms was a jk as implied by the meme face
>>35005708
>that
>25%
40% minimum
>>35005867
Explain plz
>>35005941
smolov is for people that have essentially exhausted other possible ways of making squat gains. With your squat at your bodyweight, you don't need to run smolov. I ran smolov when I hit 2.5 BW squat.
>>35005847
>more like 38%
>>35005883
>more so in the mid 30%bf.
fucking this.
>>35005956
>>35005941
it's also a peaking program rather than something you just run for the heck of it.
>>35005966
Okay plz I didn't know don't yell @ me
>>35005941
Smolov will break you
>>35005708
you don't just "lose your strength" fatass. your body burns fat before it cannibalizes muscle, you'd need to be extremely lean before you have to start to worry about really losing muscle mass. what you will experience on a cut though is reduced energy available to your muscles due to limited caloric intake. that's just plain math. lift what you can with the energy you have available to make slow gains, but focus on your diet to lose the weight.
legit 40% + minimum.
you're at the stage where your midsection under your ribs is about as wide as your stomach, which only occurs once you start hitting really high levels of body fat.
this is why fatties get confused re: bodyfat.
they see their stomach and they're like "oh its not protruding out like the really fat people" because you're already so fat your midsection has expanded out beyond 44 inches as well as your stomach which is probably like 48.
>>35005956
>measuring squats in xBW
Manlet detected
>>35006015
Not a manlet, 6'2"
>fatty detected
>Hurr durr muh strength
Why dont you just admit you're a fucking fat-ass and you couldn't even cut if you wanted to
>>35006056
>insulting people on the internet will make them upset
bench 2pl8 then open this thread again
This is a troll thread right?
>>35006015
I measure my squats in kg, but a 180 kg squat for a 75 kg person is far more advanced than a 180 kg squat for a 120 kg person. 180 kg squat at 120 kg is intermediate and therefore smolov isn't warranted, but if you're squatting 180 and you weigh 75 kg that's an advanced lift and you'd probably benefit from smolov. This entire explanation can be circumvented if you use xBW notation. Hence the use of xBW notation.
>>35006033
Lel ok midget
>guys my 3pl8 squat is impressive right it's 2xbw
We use plates pounds and kilos in the real world. Ever see powerlifting stats in xBW? No
>>35006132
lol madfat detected.
>MY 405 SQUAT IS IMPRESSIVE EVEN IF IT'S .5 BW
>>35006103
There is no linear relationship between body weight and strength potential, so reporting lifts as a multiple of bodyweight is easier for lightweights. This is why the wilks and Sinclair coefficients exist
>>35006092
>He thinks 2pl8 is a hard bench
Fucking LMAO
>>35006189
nah mang just saying he cant do it
>>35006132
But don't they? What is Wilks score?
>>35006274
Wilks score is a fairly complicated 5th order equation. Bodyweight ratios favor smaller people.
>>35005708
You are 35% body fat. 30% at the lowest. If you replace some of that fat with muscle, you won't lose strength.
>>35005708
>>35005779
>>35005846
>>35005906
>>35005941
>>35005977
Does your name begin with a G by any chance and are you a Welshman?
>>35006387
no and no, why?
>>35006009
> your body burns fat before it cannibalizes muscle
This true?
>>35006425
desu i heard it was the other way around
>>35006408
Some bloke I know posted a progress pic that looked similar to yours on Facebook.
Anyway I've been fucking his girlfriend for ages and I was going to tell him that shes been cheating but anonymously and send some pics of me knee deep in her clunge if it was you but it isn't so never mind.
>>35006452
Post pics anyway. Who knows, they might get where they need to go, somehow.
>>35006452
KEK isnt me but post anyways
>>35006479
It's kind of a complicated one really.
Im fucking her out of revenge ever since he fucked up my brothers hands out of negligence in an industrial accident the scammed his way out of paying the compensation money.
Probably bait but...
If you just do what the sticky says you will lose hardly any muscle, you silly fat bastard.
>>35005708
You are not strong you are regular
You are fat
Fix yourself
I wanna see the best version of you.
>>35006435
Tbh i've heard the same as you senpai
>>35006542
why the fuck did that inspire me
im doing it for you anon no sarcasm
>>35006527
Das cool mang. Das real cool. Now post the pics.
>>35005708
>this is plg
Top fucking kek.
ITT: a delusional fatty seeks justification for being a disgusting fat ass
>>35005708
Dude...no amount of strength is worth looking that shit. just cut.
>>35006649
Afraidim saving them for a very special occasion. I was thinking maybe it was him here and couldn't believe my luck. But I'm going to buy a projector and set it up outside his house and shine it through the lounge window so at first hes like 'whos this asshole shining a light through the window good lord I recognise that asscheek" right as he sees my confident 7.5 inch cock sliding into his 5'1 gfs little pink pussy.
He is so asking for it though, ever since he executed a really hostile takeover of the roller disco my entire family (except brother) worked in and owned and then sold it as low cost housing.
>>35005708
>muh strength
as someone who hovered around builtfat mode for years, trying to "cut" while preserving "muh strength"
just
fucking
cut
lifting weights feels great for the hour you do it
being lean feels great ALL FUCKING DAY
>>35006712
>hostile takeover of the roller disco
>>35006712
Is this the plot of a 70s porno?
>>35006012
40+ for sure
>>35006734
Nah, cause if it was, we'd actually get to see the pics. The fag is obviously just making shit up.
>>35005708
CUT YOU FAT FUCK.
CUT SO HARD.
FUCK YOUR STRENGTH, YOU WON'T LOSE IT IF YOU KEEP LIFTING WHAT YOU ARE NOW AND EAT PROTEIN
>>35006727
>>35006734
Afraid not. I wish it was though as the nightmare never seems to end.
Basically my father and his father went to school together. They were friends for sometime but my father always had it better when it came to charm and was a self made man.
My targets father was richer than God but very awkward and not very well liked. They fell out when my father took the hand of marriage with the woman the rich guy loved and he has hated my family ever since.
My brother had both hands mangled in an industrial accident at a factory that had vague ties to the rich family, (he was on the board).
My brother got his hand stuck in machinery and had to free himself as no one else was around, he instinctively jammed the other hand in to free the first one but that got stuck too. So the board ruled (at rich man's discretion) that because he shouldn't have put other hand in he would only get compensation for the first hand damaged.
>>35006600
Because that's what we do here f a m
>>35006791
For never was a story of more woe, than this of keking at the roller disco.
>>35005708
>be fat but muscular
>cut calories to lose fat
>get plenty of protien
>take creatine to save muscle
>actually gain muscle while on cut
>fuckyeah.win
>do it faggot
>>35006847
Basically my family had owned this roller disco for about 20 years, real nice place, friendly and not pretentious.
My targets family decided (because papa got cuucked) that they were going to take it away from us. They bought up a load of land either side of our roller disco and sold it for housing for low income families, then pointed the finger at us, for not wanting to help the low income families. Coincidentally we had a three month run of just accident after accident, people coming in who weren't regulars constantly "injuring themselves" and wanting to sue.
Cuucksons qt girlfriend was my old school sweetheart and it wasn't hard to get her onto my side and into my bed.
Also I beat him up in a bar once so he ran over my dog.
Lmao im at 25% bodyfat and i don't even come close to looking like u lmao
ur like 50% buddy sorry to tell you
>>35007069
50% top k e k
>>35007358
Its honestly probably not that far off 50% if we're being honest.
dude is pretty obese, anybody suggesting anything below 35% is insane.
I'd say anything under 40% is insane
Dude has at least 40-50 kilos to lose.
>>35007371
290 5'11"
>>35007431
Also a side view isn't even shown
>>35007431
290 is 131kg
he needs to be mid 90s before he even hits the overweight category for BMI, and that's the uppermost limit of overweight.
dudes waist is easily 46-48 inches just from looking at it.
huge amount of stomach fat, definitely a huge amount of fat around his organs, huge amount of fat on chest, can easily infer lower back is covered in fat as well.
yes this dude is over 40% body fat easily, like not even a question about it.
are you OP? is that why you're taking such a retarded position as to suggest he's not over 40%?
>>35007476
Pretty much this.
BMI isn't great for active people, but I know some guys who're around the same bodyweight (although they're also taller). To merely be kinda fat, rather than a sloppy mess like OP, you need to be damn strong and generally on a fair amount of gear. 600+ squats and pulls, 700+ if you're shorter.
nigger you do not go to the gym if you look like that
start cutting little pigg
>>35007511
bro the majority of the time BMI is perfectly indicative of where you're at.
the majority of people on /fit/ without a doubt do not have the muscle mass to really throw off the BMI calculation.
even then if we had a hard training mother fucker with 10 years on under his belt you wouldn't see anybody too far into the overweight category and still lean.
you might get 20% guys pushing the mid-upper limits of overweight BMI if they've got a LOT of muscle, but no this guy isn't one of them he's just really really fat.
CUT OP
YOU WILL LOSE A BIT OF STRENGTH BUT NOT TOO MUCH THAT IT WON'T ALL COME BACK
YOU'LL FEEL BETTER AND BE A MORE CONFIDENT PERSON IF YOU CUT
MY FAVORITE PART ABOUT CUTTING JUST 20 POUNDS WERE THE FACIAL GAINS
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>>35007544
The motivation is real thank you based anon
Kek, you will never use that much strength outside of this hobby, and you look like total shit right now.
Stop for a sec and try to see if you should be cutting or not.
>>35007541
This guy fucking gets it.
My BMI is 26.5, just slightly overweight and I sit @ ~10%. The snowflakes aren't real, just apply science to your lifestyle and get results.
>>35007577
yeah but you're nowhere near being in an unhealthy range in reality. BMI is good for people who are mainly sedentary (most of the population over 30) or if you're doing statistical analysis.
>>35007069
Nice Runescape running in the background faggot. 2005 was 10 years ago, give it up already.
>>35005781
I don't believe you... 1 week into selection and my body entered full Auschwitz mode in everything but my quads.
The smell of ammonia bro....
>>35008661
jesus do you want to be big or strong and enduring?
>>35005708
>Sup /fit/ I'm really fat and clearly don't exercise but I think I'm strong. What should I do if I want aesthetics
Fixed your post
>>35005768
if thats 30 then my bf is -4%
>>35008908
I was just pointing out that the study's results sounded like BS
>>35005908
This guy knows.
>>35005708
>25%
Stop deluding yourself. You are the very least 30%, probably 35% actually. And no, there's no good reason to stay a fatfuck: it doesn't affect strength in any way and just shows how fucking lazy you really are.
>>35007431
>130 kg bodyweight
>only 177 kg benchpress and 234 kg deadlift
Holy fuck, you ARE delusional. Start exercising, your lazy piece of shit.
>>35006425
Its true if you lift
>>35006425
ONLY if you train hard regularly. This way your organism thinks that you actually need them. If you sit on your ass all day, however, it's the other way around -- why burn precious fat that yields shitton of heat if you can burn muscles that aren't used and yield just enough for organism to function properly.
Sounds reasonable and works on practice. The worst that has ever happened to me was -10 kg on the deadlifts.
>>35005747
Lmaoooooo you agree NOT benching 390.
>>35009165
LOLOLOLO
What is a percentage? Dude, 25% of 300lbs is fucking 75lbs. You'd have to have 225lbs of lean body mass to be 25% at 300lbs.
That like beyond elite bodybuilding.
At 290, chances are he's sitting at like 45-50%.
That's ridiculous.
>>35005708
Srsly with those stats you should weight at least 100 pounds less.
>>35005747
>bench more than squat
>>35005781
>They marched around without food for days and there was no muscle loss until well into single digit bf
Bullshit.
>>35005708
this is bait
Good troll OP. Subtle but not too subtle underestimation of bf% is gold.
>>35005708
id say 30%-35% bodyfat
just cut, so hard
>>35006902
This sounds like a redneck soap opera ever
